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Yeah guys I am looking for some color ideas for my Shrine Of Aquila Conversion project. I have been playing around with a marble-ish paint job but can't decide. Any advice you guys have would be awesome. You can see the raw version in my gallery.

Thanks in advance for any input.

Mike

did i post this in the wrong spot for help, or do i just smell funny??

Mike

Looks nice, but hard to tell ...
Any chance of a few more pics from different angles?

looking cool dude! if you can pull off that marble effect then i think that would make it look pretty awesome and unique.. what sets did you use to create this inc. the shrine?

I wouldn't try marble buy in a few spots. Imperial building and architecture tends to be metallic and concrete.

It is a combination of all three cites of death kits mainly the Shrine of Aquila and Sanctum Imperialis. As for the color ideas I already have three other kits in the grey, metal, imperium look. Just wanted some ideas on something more unusual, like the marble-ish look. I think I am going to go for an ivory color and a darker gold color for the aquilia. I will post some pics soon.

Any other ideas would still be welcome.

Thanks for the comments

It is really nice... what? you want me to say more? well good sir... no.

got these in the mail the other day. don't know if i should use them?? what do you all think??

as always i love the feedback, so thanks in advance!

mike

Those are from that WHFB game terrain, I got that! I plan on modifying the ones with hammers into stuff for my mechanium building.

@jabbakahut
any pictures of your building?? i would love to see them

did some painting on the shrine last night, i will have pics up soon.

mike


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@jabbakahut

never mind!! haha just saw your gallery, looks nice. i use movement trays for my floor/roof. love to hear what your going to do to the statues still. great job on yours though kudos!!

mike

If you go to my gallery you can see different WIPs. I haven't applied the statues yet, my blog won't be updated for a while (while I finish construction on my basement). Sorry.

anyone know where can get 28 mm scale candle like these??


i am not trying to spend $30 of the GW ones!!

Thanks
Mike

still workin on this one, using a few more bits to finish it up. I am using the dead blood angel from space hulk. Also I finally got some candles from MAXMINI to set the mood. I will start working on a scratch built alter and will keep you all updated

as always comments are appreciated and very very helpful,

mike

Nice metallic effect on the Egal- mind sharing how you achieved it?

Nice! If you want some easy candles, a bit of plastic rod and a cut-off of most top-knots will make a nice candle.

Nice!

@CadianXV

i am happy you like it... the recipe is bestial brown base coat, dry brush stone brown, dry brush bone white, dry brush mithiral silver (very very lightly) , and wash with devlin mud!!

i tried it on a test piece first to find the right blend, so try it first and figure out what amounts work for you.

@CommissarKhaine

the candles I got from MAXMINI are sick!! But your method sounds cool, any ideas for an alter... I am thinking pink foam board and cities of death bits??

so here we go!! one half painted dead termie and a scratch built altar... I really wanna know what you guys think. I am not 100% sold on my altar.

any help would be great!!

hmm, maybe an Imperial Aquila on the front of the altar. Keep up the good work.

Nice! You have a pretty sweet project going on here. Original and great idea. I agree with the aquila on the front of the altar. Can't wait to see more

For what it's worth: I like the altar. I might consider filling in the roguht spots with greenstruff, but that's just personal preference. I know the termie is still WIP, but I'd really consider adding lots of weathering to the model - the paint isn't made from ceramite AFAIK

Good job, keep it up!

thanks for all the feedback, it has helped out a ton. The problem with the altar (it is a prototype) is that it is made from pink foam! which as we all know melts when glued and sprayed. the top is plasty card and the rest is pink foam. I have been thinking about what other pieces I can use but nothing comes to mind. Forge World has a nice resin one but it costs like $20 us. What do you guys think? I need help on this one cuz without the altar the whole idea is pointless.

as for the dead termie I cant wait to weather it!! lots of dings, dents , and scratches are forth coming!

HELP I NEED AN ALTAR! ( at least one I love anyway ) OH well back to the drawing board!!!


Thanks again,

Mike

Just fill in the spared bits with plasticard, then spray it black again. Or build the basic shape out of plasticard and add bits, it should be feasible. As far as I can tell from the pics, sliding a bit of plasticard between the decorations shouldn't be too hard? As an alternative, get hold of the old heroquest boxed set. it includes an altar

I dig the alter, I'm jealous.

nice work - love the project
the alter seems small to me - but is a prototype?

the Imperium seem to do things LARGE, so see it as being a huge solid affair - I like the idea of the Aquila which is de rigeur for all things imperial.

FWIW I have found that the best results for sticking plastic card to foam is the No-nails type adhesive.
It can be a bit slippy at first but once in position and left to dry gives an excellent bond.
Another advantage is that it is available here from the cheapo shops!

look forward to seeing more
ps What about an alter cloth over the top to add more interest

Where did you end up getting the candles and books?

@jabbakahut
I got them from MAXMINI! check out the web page http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=56

they have some really great resin bits and fair prices, only draw back was they are in Poland!

@Chibi Bodge-Battle
after a great deal of thought I think I agree with your larger is a better idea. My new altar will be a multi level with an aquila proudly displayed at the top. Also I LOVE the cloth idea! I am going to steal that from you.

Thanks again for all of your help and comments, keep um coming

Mike

Beautiful work sir!
and i dig the altar!

Facing a pink foam alter with plastic card shouldn't be too difficult, and would give it a sense of rigidity. Mounting it on a small platform would also make it more imposing.

I also think a free standing Aquilla in place of the goblet would work well!

I love the space marine and altar

got my armorcast piece in the mail today!! Tank with a couple of corpses at the bottom. It is just screaming for water effects. More to come

Mike

@jabbakahut

i will be sending you the altar monday, it has been a crazy couple of weeks here

This is the armorcast piece that I got for my city. I have lost my inspiration for the ALTAR for the moment so I figured this may be fun in the mean time. I am going to do water effects and wondering what you guys think.

So here is the question... " What color should the water be, Brown, TOXIC Green, or plain old Clear??"

Lets put it to a vote and the most votes will determine the color!! I am good with any of the above

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only dirty water.

I would make it a very dark blackish colour, if possible. Clean enough to drink without making you too sick, but dirty enough to show it has been in the system for a long time and has picked up plenty of dirt and grime along the way.

Brown/muddy water imho. maybe some green at the edges of the pool.

Dark. Very, very dark. And grim. And dark. Grimdark. Did i mention Dark?

How about very dark, with an eerie shine to it and gory stuff floating on the surface.

Brown with algae.

And an unfortunate guardsmen.

the tank has a skeleton and a skull at the bottom so the color of the water needs to be translucent ,but I am think you guys are leaning to "DARK" if I am not mistaken!! I will be adding a lasgun, guardsmen helmet and other detritus.

Keep the votes coming!!


Thanks Again,

Mike


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CadianXV wrote:Brown with algae.

And an unfortunate guardsmen.

Algae sounds fun (but very, very hard)!! check this out

http://www.coolminiornot.com/229266
I love this guys work!!!

Remember when using the water effects use a little at a time in layers paint on the plant life so it looks like it is floating in the water and this might help some

http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/range.php?range_id=48&subcat_id=23
happy modeling

just a quick post, I have just finished the pre build on my city's water pumping station!
I will have some photos soon and as always any help or feed back would be great.

Thanks Again
Mike

ps
Anyone had a KFC double down sandwich yet? I think I my try one today, only 69 grams of saturated fat!!! Let me know if you had one yet, and what you thought

I now know I'm old, I wouldn't dare put something that horrible into my body. Now where are dem photos!

ok well just a short story about this one. I was having an ADD moment trying to finish my altar and started surfing Armorcast's site . When out of no where I see this sediment collector, perfect for water effects. I have been toying around with water effects and wanted to do a fountain, but it didnt fit my over all theme. So whats the next best things?? A freakin water pump station. So I went to my local GW which is run by a really cool dude ( side note, he hooked me up with the zombie ) thanks Will, and picked up movement trays and a mechanicum building and voila a zombie infested city water pump system. WARNING dont drink the water!!!!!

This is a rough build but any ideas you guys have would be great!!

Thanks as always,
Mike

Looking cool, gotta love modellers ADD

Is that meant to be zombie coming out of the pool?

@ young logan

Yes ,it is a zombie from the fantasy undead line. What do you think?? Love it, hate it... feedback helps a ton

Looks cool so far

Look good so far though I'm not to sure about the Zombie. Have you decided about your colour for the water yet? How about mixing some thraka green wash into water effects for a kind of sewer water look.

Looks good. I might repose the zombie. Right now, it's obviously coming out of the pool to get someone. I think if it was hanging on the edge, it would be more nebulous - is it a dead body hanging on the pool, or a zombie pulling itself up? And maybe put a guardsmen helmet on him!

This project is, in a word, awesome.

Awesome!

Wow I have been away and a surge of interest hits! Thanks for all the comments, I have been REALLY REALLY busy with work and no time for mini building ( sad sad times ). But with all that behind me I can start working again. So let me start by saying thanks for all the positive feedback, it makes all the had work worth while.

1) Shrine Of Aquila: after weeks of toiling I am done trying to scratch build one soooo at the bottom of this post you can see what will become the Altar for my Shrine!!

2) Water color for the Treatment Plant... aaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnd the color is DARK!! hahahahahahah! After all the responses to the water color I have decided to go with a murky but see through dark green. Think sewer, there will be dark green flock in between the layers of Water Effects. It will take some time to perfect but it will look like trash floating in the water.

3) ZOMBIE!!!! I have not finalized the design yet but I like the idea of him coming out of the Treatment Plant. The IG Zombie is a neat idea but this is easier said then done. Believe me when I tell you have have torn that Zombie apart and gave him all kinds of poses. The lunging Zombie is my favorite. I did however get a ghoul from MANTIC Games that I will also have a picture of at the bottom. Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks for all the comments and support!!! As always PLEASE keep them coming, every idea makes this project a community project! This is for you guys as much as it is for me!!
Mike

The altar is looking good. if you want it to be a focal point though, I think it needs to 'pop' a bit more. Maybe a marble effect on the top slab of the altar?

Also, the ghouls just begs to be sitting on the edge of the basin, with an unfortunate victim trying to crawl away through the sludge and refuse - classic horror movie stuff

Ordered the ALTAR today and I am very excited to finally be finished the Shrine Of Aquila!! Also the Water Plant will be getting under coated tonight. I have finally convinced my wife to let me buy the Citidel Battle Board!!! YAY!!! Any way I will have some progress shots of the projects as the are ready. I really doubt you guys want to see a primed piece of terrain.


Keep the comments coming!!

Mike

And now for the New Altar... I really love this Altar and need some color suggestions. I am thinking Stone Grey, Boltgun, and White Marble!!! As always PLEASE leave feedback with any and all ideas or critiques.


Thanks,
Mike

Looks pretty sick dude! One thing I might add is some gs to the bases of those candles to mold them more into the surface they're sitting on and maybe some wax drips below. At the moment it looks a bit too much like they've just been stuck there.
If you wanted it to really look like an ancient shrine that's been getting some serious use over the years you could go really overboard with the wax, adding layers and layers of the stuff and big stalagmites of it on the floor below.

Looking good! Marble soundslike a good idea, and if you can pull it off, illuminated lettering on the open books would make it look more ornate, adding to the altar feel.

@CommissarKhaine- I am doing marble effects for the bulk of the altar and metallic colors for the rest. How would you go about illuminated letters? I am interested in that but how do you make letters look like they are written in fire??

@jackanory- The collected wax sounds awesome, I am def stealing that idea!!

As for an update the Dead Termmie is nearly done being painted ( pics soon ) and I am test painting the marble effect. It is not as easy as I thought it would be!! HAHAHAH

Thanks for the comments and keep um coming,

Mike

annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd here's Termmie

Where did you get the books and candles?

That alter is beginning to look off the charts! That Term looks awesome, I considered getting Space Hulk just for that piece.

BTW, I got your delivery today, I can't yet fully incorporate it into my cathedral, but I'll get photos once I do. Thanks!

@IronSpectre
I got them from MAXMINI! check out the web page http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=56
they are kinda pricey but totally worth it.

@jabbakahut
I am glad you got the altar I hope you like it. Also did you get the Ghoul and Candle?? I started painting the NEW altar and had to start over, kinda sad!! I am probably going to skip the marble effect or at least only do it on the top flat part of the altar. I am glad you dig the dead termmie. BTW Space Hulk is totally worth every penny as a game and the mini's are better then ANY standard mini that are available in the GW line. You need pick them up for your army!!

Thanks for all the comments and keep them coming

Mike

The water treatment plant is on the painting table. Here are a few shots of the plant. In one of them you will see a skeleton reaching for a lasgun, I need to know if I should keep it in there or not ( note: it will not be the lasgun pictured, that is for another project ). Let me know what you think so far and as always keep the comments coming!!!

Thanks again,
Mike

Going to play with these later!! Has anyone ever used them?? I am excited to see what I can do with the different Pigments. The set includes three rust shades and one for soot. I am totally going to soot the bombed out edges of all my buildings. Also lots of people looking but no replies to the "Water Plant question", lasgun or no lasgun?? As always thanks for all the comments and keep um coming!!

Well as promised I had some fun with the rust pigments. They were a little harder to work with then I thought. Much messier and hard to control the coverage area. All in all I like the end result. I think it added a lot of depth to the model. As always let me know what you guys think.

I picked up a set of pigments from the same brand, I like quality of them especially for their cost.

Great pieces of the terrain...glad you got rid of the zombie coming out of the pool. The skelly in the pool is great.

With all those pipes you could do the scene from Enemy at the Gates where the snipers are trapped....just a thought...

manoknok wrote:Great pieces of the terrain...glad you got rid of the zombie coming out of the pool.

I am actually keeping him but it is going to be a different model from mantic games. It is a very dynamic pose I will put up a pic later you you guys can decide!!

So here is the question:

Zombie or NO Zombie??

The pigments look good - how are you using them, if I may ask?

Edit: And without the lasgun or zombie I think - unless you dirty up the bottom even more (ie add more rubbish etc) and generally make the water quite opaque.

@SilverMK2
Thanks for the compliment. As far as the usage goes it is very simple. The product is "Self Adhesive", so all you really have to do is put the powder where you want it and rub it in. I am using an old dry brush, but I assume that any stiff brush will do. It is VERY VERY messy , and leaves little control. The control factor comes from the self adhering product. If you miss the target and get it into places you didn't want it well get ready to repaint that area. Most pigments are set by rubbing alcohol so overdusting is a matter of simply blowing the remaining off. (Note: with this particular brand if it hits it sticks) All in all it was great fun and turned out great .
I would recommend that beginners try this out on scrape plastic to see how it works.

Thanks for the comment and hope that this helps.

I have MIG pigments which I fix using alcohol (and sometimes use in oil paints too for extra colour and texture).

I was just wondering how you were applying it

Never heard of self adhesive pigments though.

@SilverMK2

I know that sounds strange, when I saw it I was unsure how it would work out. After talking to the owner of the model train store, he told me he swears by this stuff. As long you don't mind a little touch up painting here and there, then this stuff is awesome!!!

Here is the link:
http://www.bragdonent.com/weather.htm

for small candles and things go to maxmini.com they have some sweet stuff there :-)

Really awesome work indeed. Will try some of this stuff when I get around to making scenery!

nerdfest09 wrote:for small candles and things go to maxmini.com they have some sweet stuff there :-)

they do make great stuff!!! check this out from the altar I have made


@Regnak
This is a ton of fun and a nice break between painting figs. Thanks for the compliment!!!!!

Here is the other two buildings that I have recently re-based for my City!! They are my first kits and the Imperial command building is my favorite. I will be adding ruble and such to the bases. Let me know what you guys think. Which is your favorite? Chapel Of Aquiila, Water Plant, Imperial Command Building, or Factory Building? Let me know what you think.

Looking cool. Love the vines growing up the walls - they look great.

The banners and magna carta nailed to the door look good too.

The blue and white floor looks great too - how did you do that?

SilverMK2 wrote:Looking cool. Love the vines growing up the walls - they look great.

The banners and magna carta nailed to the door look good too.

The blue and white floor looks great too - how did you do that?

I love Warhammer Fantasy movement trays!! all of my bases, and floors are made out of movement trays. The marble-esque floor is a steady hand filling in a cut to fit movement tray!! I learned it from another gamer, and boy does it work. If you go back and look at all my buildings you will see how versatile they really are!!

And thanks again for the comments!!

time to start toying around with the water color, Dark I know I know!! But the problem is there is so much detail at the bottom of the tank I don't want to lose. This mix that is pictured below is a 3 to 1 mix of paint to water effects. The problem is that it is NOT translucent!! Does any one know how to tint water effects!?!?!?!?

anyway here is a green ooze blob that dissolved a poor guardsman!!!

I really like it. Great work all around, especially the rust. IMHO you could make the melted gaurdsman thing that extra bit cooler by putting a couple nurglings in the goop. Maybe one sneaking out from under the helmet and a fat one on the leading edge of the goop?

Great stuff so far. The weathering powders really added a good deal of depth.

Re: lasgun/no lasgun. I vote no lasgun. Something would have come by and nicked it for sure. Even waterlogged and non-functional, it would probably get looted.

Re: Coloring water effects, don't use paint. Use ink. Most art supply stores will sell you any color of the rainbow for a couple bucks. And use them very, very sparingly. One or two drops of ink for your entire pool batch is enough to add color to water, without losing the detail on the pool floor. You can always experiment with color combinations.

Good luck, keep up the great work!

the melting guardsman was not part of the plan just a funny bit... but maybe I will have to include it in the final plan. Thanks for all the great feedback and compliments. I will not be including the lasgun BUT I am still up in the air about the zombie.

With that said I will set the Water Plant aside for awhile and FINALLY finish the Altar!! Pictures to come as soon as I am finished.

Thanks again everyone ,

Mike

Your terain is fantastic. I like what you're doing with the water pond thing, very characterful.

I need to have emergency oral surgery tomorrow, soo I am not going to be painting much the next few days. I had hoped to have the altar done this week but alas I cracked a wisdom tooth. Lots of pain to follow . Anyway I was wondering who is going to Games Day in Baltimore this year?? I am 50/50 right now, last years event was pretty lame.

Wish me luck and hopefully I will feel well enough to do some painting

Mike

Surely you can work on it while in "The Chair"?

And living in the UK, I'm not going to that event I'm afraid.

Good luck with the wisdom tooth.

survived my surgery and I must say I am feeling pretty good. Maybe I will hit the painting bench tomorrow after all.

Pft, you don't paint with your mouth, so get on with it

actually I am a brush licker!! I know it is gross but that is how I learned. I am getting away from it though, I guess this is the best time to stop

Best of luck with kicking the habit

I have tinted the water effects and have done my first pour. It already looks pretty cool if I do say so myself. I can only pour 1/8 of an inch every 12 hours so it is gonna be awhile til it's done. I am going to put some moss/crud/trash around a few edges using a green flock. I am nervous to see how it is going to turn out. Anyway here is the pic of the first pour. I will not bore you with an update every pour but I am excited to see it all down. Pictures to follow of course!!

Looks pretty cool - any reason why you can only pour so little at a time?

Though if you have to wait for each layer to harden, it does give you scope to add in floating bits of weed, etc.

Very cool project. Makes me want to build some terrain for my battlefield. Keep up the good work!

Nice work.

SilverMK2 wrote:Looks pretty cool - any reason why you can only pour so little at a time?

Though if you have to wait for each layer to harden, it does give you scope to add in floating bits of weed, etc.

The water effects I bought have a 1/8 inch pour every 12 hours. Basically you can't pour more than that to get a good result. Hardening time is 12 hours so it will take me roughly 2 days to finish. I am going to place some mold around the edges of the plant in between the 2nd and 3rd pour. I will take a picture of the process for you guys to see. I am excited to see the end results!!

Thanks for the comments and keep um coming.

Also do vines turn color in the fall?? I am thinking of using fall leaves and dead trees for my city (http://www.skullcrafts.com/bs_1403.htm). The only problem is I already used green vines on my imperial command building!!! SOOOOO does anyone know if vines on walls change in the fall. My guess is yes but I am looking for a second opinion. Or do you guys think it will look okay with green vines and orange/red foliage.

Thanks
Mike

Fair enough

Some vines will change colour, yes. But this is an alien world - I think fall leaves and green vines will look pretty cool.

It will certainly break things up anyway.

What a great thread! great job so far and I can not wait to see it all finished!

It's like watchin paint dry... or water effects ughhhhhhh . Since I am lame from my surgery (and super super bored) I took a trip to my local model train store to find something else to work on. I got some woodland sceneics flocking material and went home to re-base my imperial command building. I also got some Fall foliage which I think is going to rock. Anyway I am hoping to have it finished and painted by the end of the day. Pictures to follow.

Also what do you think for my next building?? I am thinking graveyard!!

I've seen a few ruined/overgrown parks/gardens which look pretty cool.

Or perhaps some kind of overgrown Rapunzel-esque tower?

madmartykmf wrote:I have tinted the water effects and have done my first pour. It already looks pretty cool if I do say so myself. I can only pour 1/8 of an inch every 12 hours so it is gonna be awhile til it's done. I am going to put some moss/crud/trash around a few edges using a green flock. I am nervous to see how it is going to turn out. Anyway here is the pic of the first pour. I will not bore you with an update every pour but I am excited to see it all down. Pictures to follow of course!!

Dude, that's awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I only wish I could make terrain half that good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can we (I) get a tutorial????? I just am absolutely taken with that piece of terrain (btw, what happened to the picture in the quote), and I think it's perfect as is, but maybe a few more corpses and some rats.

A tower would be kinda cool but how about this as an idea overgrown gothic graveyard!!!!


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Dude, that's awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I only wish I could make terrain half that good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can we (I) get a tutorial????? I just am absolutely taken with that piece of terrain (btw, what happened to the picture in the quote), and I think it's perfect as is, but maybe a few more corpses and some rats.

I am glad you like everything, it means a lot when people comment on and critique my work. It is always nice when people like what you do, so thanks for the compliment and keep your comments coming.

As for a tutorial I think it would be better for me to just have you PM me with any questions you have. That way I don't have to make a new thread and any questions that you have about a specific area are clearly answered!! So fire away!!

Thanks again,
Mike

GW made a gothic graveyard a few years back for WHF. I use it often in my 40K games. I think a graveyard would be a great idea. Peopel still die in the future......I know my basic Guardsmen do. Can't wait to see it.

Kung Fu Jim wrote:GW made a gothic graveyard a few years back for WHF. I use it often in my 40K games. I think a graveyard would be a great idea. Peopel still die in the future......I know my basic Guardsmen do. Can't wait to see it.

Thanks for the hint, I am not 100% on the idea of a graveyard but if I do go for it I will be using Armorcast , and GW cities of death kits. To me it just sounds like it would be fun to make a graveyard BUT does it go with the overall theme?? That is the big question

You might find a small graveyard sandwiched between buildings, perhaps in some "lost" ground that has been forgotten by the administration and used by a family or group of families who have been working in the factories for generations?

My view of it might be something like the graveyard in "Lost in Space" - no tombstones as such, but markers/totems with personal items of the departed, their names, etc, graves dug wherever there was room, so no ordered rows, etc.

I can't find a picture of it, but I hope you know what I mean.

Good morning everybody!! Well I can't sleep so here is a picture of the Imperial command buildings bases before paint. Also the second pour has been done!! It is looking better and better, but it may be more like 5 pours total. That sucker is deep.

So here you have a mix of pink foam, sprue, bitz, and sand. Paint to follow along with the fall foliage and rust effects. Pictures as soon as they are ready.

Looking good. Still really love that flooring

Well I am done with the re-basing of the Imperial Command Building. I think that it looks pretty sweet!! I am going to play with the fall foliage after everything is dry. I will probably put a pick or two up so you guys can help decide if it is any good. Here you go...

Here is a picture of the first city block!! Still need to do a re-base for the Factory , but all in all lookin good. And I am going to do a Graveyard next!!

I am also a brush licker! at least since i stopped using humbrol enamel paint... sometimes you just don't have the time to dip it in the water and licking the brush seems to keep the point sharp. love the water plant best - i say go for darkish but not too dark water - cool

weetyskemian44 wrote:I am also a brush licker! at least since i stopped using humbrol enamel paint... sometimes you just don't have the time to dip it in the water and licking the brush seems to keep the point sharp. love the water plant best - i say go for darkish but not too dark water - cool

Thanks and brush lickers unite!! I think I may have kicked the habit, since I have a swollen face and all. The Water Plant is a ton of fun and thanks for your input... but I have already painted, tinted , and poured the water color and YES it is dark!!

Thanks again
Mike

Graveyard WIP

Let me know what you guys think!!

I like the raised edges between the paths and the graves - it really helps to define the space in a way that just having grave stones would not.

I think the piece, itself, looks neat. I don't like the *idea* of an old-fashioned graveyard in the 41st Millennium. I think they'd have different ways of doing things by then (cremation, giant underground tombs, shuttling the bodies off into space, warp rifts [LOL], etc), since real estate would be at a premium.

The actual piece IS starting to take a nice shape, however.

Also, something I discovered on Water Effects... You don't have to color ALL of your pours. Often, just coloring the FIRST pour gives you the color you want. Leaving the following pours clear will help your details to stay more visible.

Eric

Once again great work, my only complaint---The Ravens cup in the background......aaarrrgghhhh. LOL. Looking forward to the graveyard.

just a quick one for tonight thanks for all the feedback and comments!! I understand the graveyard being sort of out of place but the total cost of the build will be like 20 bucks!! It was made out of left over bitz mainly, I think once it is done it will fit with the whole chapel motif, whats a church without a graveyard right?? Anyway I am back to work so lets see what I can get done this week. As always keep the feedback coming. I love to hear from you guys!! Also if you view this thread make a comment I want to hear from all of you!!

Thanks
Mike


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and as far as the Ravens cup goes they are my wifes!! I am more of an Orioles fan!! GO O's!!!!

I want to put some algae in the water plant but don't know what type of material I should use. Should I use a certain type of flock?? The static grass I have doesn't look convincing at all !! I am thinking clump foliage from woodland scenics but I am open for ideas. I have my last pour coming up tomorrow and that is the pour when the algae goes down!!

Let me know what you guys are thinking.

Mike

Well, I was planning on doing some blossom on some trees using really finely chopped up bits of coloured paper stuck onto lichen bushes.

Thought of anything like that?

Though having just thought about it, perhaps you could add a dusting of weathering powder between layers? That would probably fit algae more closely than chopped up paper.

I was thinking maybe some dried basil!!

You will probably need to ground it up a lot - algae is very small

well maybe not algae maybe just floating debris or foliage!! Still keep the ideas coming!!

Well I am still up in the air about the algae I did some more work on the Water Plant and flushed out some details. I added some green "toxic" water leaking out of the cracked pipe. I love the way this project is turning out. I will tell you all to go have some fun with water effects they are slow going but very very worth it!! Without further delay here are the latest pics of the plant (four pours done, one to go) with the water nearly finished. Let me know what you guys think and as always thanks for all the feedback and comments!!

Also I have won the items I needed for my Graveyard on Ebay just now so I will be all over that very soon.

Looks good so far, not sure if you need more water in there or not.

Just a note on the toxic water - you may want to add a little bit more running out in the cracks between the paving slabs, was fluids tend to run into cracks before flooding over slabs (unless they are particularly sticky )

This all looks really really cool! I like the water effect on that "bath".
Also the rust pigment looks very good!
Keep it up, like it allot!

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions!! I have been working like a dog so no real progress has been made. BUT I did order head stones and a dead tree for the graveyard!! As soon as they arrive I will put up some pics. Also my birthday is in a few days and I think I smell a RoB board!!!!!!


Mike


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I was just talking to my wife about the graveyard project and she made a comment about how I should put names on the 3 headstones that can take them, but what names?? We talked about our chaos spawn cats but I thought it would be more fun if YOU were buried in it!! So here is what I am thinking, if you want to be buried in my graveyard just send me a private message as to why you belong and the best 3 will be a part of the city forever!!!

Mike

Haha, done

I've been following your blog for a couple of months and I like what I've seen. I've taken inspiration from your shrine and I intend to make a chaos alter using similar materials.

Hmmm...

I'm going to have a SM named after me (one of porukslime's Deathwatch) so a grave would be brilliant. I'll PM you)

[sorry, posted in wrong thread]

On topic, those buildings look amazing.

Lord of Change wrote:Hey Blood Reaper, am probably going to gw tomorrow at 3

see ya Lord of change

What??? Did you post in the the wrong thread!?!?!

Great Job and keep p the good work! I really love the melted Guardsmen.

All the terrain's great - particularly like the pigment weathering and the bath o'sludge. Good work, fella!

What do you use for the bases of your buildings, if you don't mind me asking?

I love this city! Cant wait to see some more of what you come up with!

Necroagogo wrote:All the terrain's great - particularly like the pigment weathering and the bath o'sludge. Good work, fella!

What do you use for the bases of your buildings, if you don't mind me asking?

I am glad you like it!! As for the bases for the buildings I use warhammer fantasy modular movement trays. They are very versatile, you can cut them and use them for bases, floors, ceilings and roofs. The Water Plant buildings roof is actually a movement tray. Look very carefully and you can see every time is used them. Try it out they are wonderful!! Keep the comments coming!!

Mike

OoH! I wanna be on a grave!
Write my initials: C.O.T.
Or write Orsufer, my Space Marine Sergeant's name.
OR write Lucien, because it's an awesome name.

And while you're at it, make me a sandwich, dammit.

HadoukenAvenger wrote:OoH! I wanna be on a grave!
Write my initials: C.O.T.
Or write Orsufer, my Space Marine Sergeant's name.
OR write Lucien, because it's an awesome name.

And while you're at it, make me a sandwich, dammit.

Here is how not to ask for something!!!! I am sorry but this is about as lame as it gets. So to answer your post HadoukenAvenger NO you will not be getting a headstone in my graveyard and you can get your own sandwich you scruffy nerf herder!!!!!!!

Mike

Wow, it's hard competition.
Hrm hrm, I would consider it to be a great honour to have my initials on one of yor graves madmarty.
Yours truly Rose_mountainz.

I was wondering whether or not the reason that I have to give for being in your graveyard was to be real or '40k fictional'.

I have a reason either way.

I admire your patience in waiting for the water effects to dry, and I like the nice effects you added, the skeleton and the lasgun.

Gathering Storm wrote:I was wondering whether or not the reason that I have to give for being in your graveyard was to be real or '40k fictional'.

I have a reason either way.

I admire your patience in waiting for the water effects to dry, and I like the nice effects you added, the skeleton and the lasgun.

What ever you want, I just believe that the Dakka community has inspired me to finally finish this project after 2 years being shelved. The reason I decided to have 3 of you guys in my graveyard is a way of giving back to the Dakka members!!! I discovered this website and rediscovered my long lost city of death. Sooo this is thank you and the winners will be announced via a picture of the painted headstones!! Thanks again for your feedback and support

Mike

Sounds good to me

I like the idea of Dakka members being on the graves. I really like your shrine, makes me want to make a corrupt chaos one.

The Water Plant is officially done !! Here are some pics , I even through in an action shot. Enjoy and as always thanks for all the comments keep um coming!!!

You should take the three people that have given the most comments on this blog and give it to them!

Looks great btw! When I start my buildings up I will be comming back for some insperation!

whalemusic360 wrote:You should take the three people that have given the most comments on this blog and give it to them!

Looks great btw! When I start my buildings up I will be comming back for some insperation!

That is a great idea... I guess you will just have to wait and see!!!

I can't wait to see your project. When are you getting started?? If you need any help or have any questions let me know!!

Mike

Looking Great!

Also never thought of using that pose for a guardsman, consiter it stolen

Hahaha, I WAS joking. I don't even have a space marine sergeant, nevermind one named Orsufer

I believe you should save your headstones for those who are gentlemanly, courteous, and can have a steak strapped to their head and still hold out against a horde of baboons with chainsaws for hands for 60 seconds AT THE VERY LEAST. It takes a special kind of mental patient for that sort of thing.

Yours Hoping-You-Actually-Make-Someone-Do-That-ly,
HadoukenAvenger.

P.S: You're doing great work here, keep it up

P.P.S: I think you're being irrational about the sandwich thing, that was perfectly reasonable, and you're WAY closer to the kitchen than I am.

Looking good

That looks 3 times awesome.

As always thanks for all the comments and support!! I am looking forward to starting/finishing my next project the graveyard. My bitz and armorcast orders have been shipped so any day now I will be back to work. I am fairly excited about Gamesday and maybe I will of few of you there. Don't be afraid to say hi if you spot me !!

Also to HadoukenAvenger you are a funny chap with a strange scene of humor , and strange as it is my wife thought your sandwich comment was funny!! I guess we all read things differently and having said that you are now just a Nerf Herder, you are no longer Scruffy!!

Mike

I get that quite a bit . I can live with it though, now that I'm not scruffy.

I'm glad your wife found the sandwich thing funny. I'm here to amuse!...or something.

H.A.

Just a quick post today, I used the weathering powder on my factory and here are the pics. I am thinking about putting a crater in the middle should look pretty sweet when it is done. As always thanks for the comments and suggestions.

Mike

Looking good. I think a rubble pile may be more fitting than a crater?

Of if you do make a crater, perhaps a crater with lots of rubble in it?

SilverMK2 wrote:Looking good. I think a rubble pile may be more fitting than a crater?

Of if you do make a crater, perhaps a crater with lots of rubble in it?

That is kinda what I was thinking, maybe a old tank factory!?!? I have lots of bitz for that, broken tank tracks, battle cannons, and some other wreckage. I don't know I will kick it around awhile.

Thanks for the idea
Mike

If you have the bits to do it, that would be great.

Perhaps a ruined conveyor belt and some robot arms hanging from what is left of the ceiling?

I'd say rubble over a crater...unless you have rubble and a crater with the inner walls burnt or covered in mud/dust etc from the shell/explosion.

The main reason I am posted though is you shrine looks beautiful. To the extent when I start building some Nercomunda terrain I may have to pinch some of your cool idea and implementation.

Thanks nice log

Peter

Maybe if the crater is going to be in the factory, it could have been caused by a defective tank shell ( or even the tank itself!) it would explain the explosion inside methinks! The weathering looks great on those buildings btw.

SilverMK2 wrote:
Perhaps a ruined conveyor belt and some robot arms hanging from what is left of the ceiling?

Saw a GW article about this. I'll add a link if I can find it.

Recently a good amount of you guys have asked for better pics of the Chapel (shrine) Of Aquilia. Well here you go!! These are much better pics with a better focus on details. And sadly no Realm Of Battle Board for my birthday ,BUT I did get some gift cards !!! Anyway here you go and as always comments and questions are always encouraged!!

Mike

Pretty damn cool - shame about the board though

Great looking buildings. For the crater perhaps add some upturned floorboards to suggest a shell that dug into the ground before exploding or the floorboards going into the crater to suggest a explosion on the surface

Some very nice terrain, it's some beautiful work that you have done. Inspired me to get on with my own terrain

The shrine is amazing. cant wait to see some more progress. all this has gotten me started on my planetstrike scenery!

HadoukenAvenger wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:
Perhaps a ruined conveyor belt and some robot arms hanging from what is left of the ceiling?

Saw a GW article about this. I'll add a link if I can find it.

Here we go: There's a few pages of the tank factory, the conveyor might be a few pages in.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=600004&pIndex=7&aId=6300002&start=8

Hey gang just got back from Gamesday and it was pretty cool, better then I expected .Anyway I got my armorcast pieces and a few pilfered bitz ( form the scenery make and take area) ... and presto a still early WIP look at the graveyard. Let me know what you guys think. A mausoleum will be in the area where the wall has been ruined with the thought that it was bombed out to steal whatever treasure the owner was buried with.The graveyard will be very overgrown and not taken care of at all (overgrown grass a cracked in half tombstone, etc) . I am excited to have this one finished and remember the 3 chosen dakka members will be buried in the graveyard. Thanks a ton for making this thread what it is and keep the comments and ideas coming!!!!


Hope you all like it
Mike

The graveyard looks great. I like the positioning of the tree and the scene looks very gothic (the way imperial things should look).

Gathering Storm wrote:The graveyard looks great. I like the positioning of the tree and the scene looks very gothic (the way imperial things should look).

Thank you , that is exactly what I was going for!! This piece will sit adjacent to the Chapel. I used lots of the same bitz repeating through the graveyard so it should tie in very well. I hope to have the other bitz I ordered soon so I can mock up the mausoleum!!


Graveyard input needed...

PLEASE POST YOUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS ON THIS ONE!!!
Thanks again and keep um coming!!
Mike

Your layout (in the second last picture) seems to be the best. Maybe add some small bits of rubble near the broken wall section.

I'll give you some input for when it is past the mock up stages as well. It needs....... a shrubbery. Joking aside, some small plants dotted around the graveyard and maybe some flowers by a few of the grave stones (when you get to the painting stage).

The grave yard looks nice but from experience I used to work at Brompton Cemetery, in London (plenty of pics on google, its beautiful but creepy)... I would say you need to pack it with more Head Stones (though from a gaming perspective maybe not a great idea). Also from what I've read in this log I get the impression your grave yard is meant to be old/battered, so remember subsidence will make the head stone sink into the ground.

I second Gathering Storm's suggestion about flowers/offerings. If you are putting flowers down I would suggest dead/dying colour scheme, uncared for in a battle field kinda way.

Looking forward to seeing it finished.

Peter

Its looking awsome - I would have killed to play on something that cool when i was playing w40k.

The suspense, while not actually killing me, has given me a bit of a headache...

What is going on the headstones then?

Has it been decided?

madmartykmf wrote: I am excited to have this one finished and remember the 3 chosen dakka members will be buried in the graveyard. Thanks a ton for making this thread what it is and keep the comments and ideas coming!!!!


Hope you all like it
Mike

All shall be reveled my friend Alpharius and I am sorry for your headache... does that mean I should hurry up and finish or do you guys really want to know who has been chosen??? I think that it is cooler if the final shot of the finished graveyard will revel the winner!!!I have picked the winners, sooooooo you guys decide "Wait for the revel or Find out now "
I leave it up to you guys!!!


Also thanks for all the comments and suggestions, Keep um coming
Mike

*Cheesy Ryan Secrest Voice* The contestent with the most of your votes tonight is........

PDH wrote:The grave yard looks nice but from experience I used to work at Brompton Cemetery, in London (plenty of pics on google, its beautiful but creepy)... I would say you need to pack it with more Head Stones (though from a gaming perspective maybe not a great idea). Also from what I've read in this log I get the impression your grave yard is meant to be old/battered, so remember subsidence will make the head stone sink into the ground.

I second Gathering Storm's suggestion about flowers/offerings. If you are putting flowers down I would suggest dead/dying colour scheme, uncared for in a battle field kinda way.

Looking forward to seeing it finished.

Peter

Thanks for telling me about this graveyard !! I am pulling a ton of ideas from it ... can't wait for the rest of my bitz to show up, so I can finish the mock up!!


@Whalemusic360
Well I guess that is 1 vote for revel now!! We will see what the others have to say!!


Mike

I actually vote for one reveal now, one in a day or so and the final on the tomb stone. Gotta hook em man, gotta hook em.

GW is giving away a RoB board in a contest!! I have sent pics of my Water Pump Station, Chapel Of Aquilia so here's to hoping that I win!!! Wish me luck!!


THE FIRST WINNER OF THE HEADSTONE CONTEST IS...



SilverMK2

The next two winners will be a reveled when the terrain piece is done!!! SilverMK2 has won because of his major support of this blog and undoubtedly the MOST comments!!! Congrats to him and please send me a message with the name you would like on said headstone!!


Thanks as always and keep um coming!!

Mike

Woo!

Although my wife is now upset that I am dead

Edit: And good luck with winning the board - sure that you will do it justice should you win.

Loving the graveyard, it looks really great. I think the tree is my favourite part, as it seems to retain the classic look of graveyards (Willow tree in the graveyard) whilst having an incredibly realistic imperial look to it.

Are you planning on having the zombies coming out of this one as well?

Looking good... will be a while before I begin on terrain. I Like what you have done and will look to this thread for some inspiration.

Grats Silver! Well desirved, and may you rest in peace

ghosty wrote:Loving the graveyard, it looks really great. I think the tree is my favourite part, as it seems to retain the classic look of graveyards (Willow tree in the graveyard) whilst having an incredibly realistic imperial look to it.

Are you planning on having the zombies coming out of this one as well?

No zombies on this one!! I am going to have a skeleton in the graveyard so stay tuned for that!!

Mike

Can I be the Skeleton?

whalemusic360 wrote:Can I be the Skeleton?

How do you know that you are not one of the winners?!?!?!


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Also if you get a chance to, I would love it if everyone would vote on my work!! Please go to the gallery and vote your hearts out!!!

I am very pale and would make a better skeleton!

Good luck to everyone who is in the running... this is a really lovely idea and a great way to involve the 40k community

Firstly, the stuff in this blog is awesome! Really digging the water plant and the Aquila Shrine/Temple thing.

With regards to the graveyard; those graves need some serious mistreatment. Battle damage, sides broken off, cracks everywhere, mould, overgrown/burnt grass etc. etc.

Keep up the good work!

L. Wrex

madmartykmf wrote:Also if you get a chance to, I would love it if everyone would vote on my work!! Please go to the gallery and vote your hearts out!!!

Think I have now voted on pretty much everything that you have voting enabled on, just because you asked nicely

SilverMK2 wrote:

madmartykmf wrote:Also if you get a chance to, I would love it if everyone would vote on my work!! Please go to the gallery and vote your hearts out!!!

Think I have now voted on pretty much everything that you have voting enabled on, just because you asked nicely

I've also voted on every last one that I could. They look great and they were all rated highly.

HAHAHA!! I know, I think that was awesome that so many people voted.

I was surprised by a few of the scores, but I love that so many people voted. Also they need to get rid of the 5 votes to see your score thing!!

Anyway back to the THREAD TOPIC (don't want to get in trouble )

The graveyard will have plenty of ruble and believe me it will look gnarly!! The one thing that I have really been thinking about is over grown grass and yes a few broken headstones. I would love to have a ton of headstones but this piece is not a diorama, it must have function. My bitz did not arrive today, but the feedback you guys have given me has really got the old gears turning!! I making a scratch built tomb for the one corner of the graveyard. Pink foam, plastic card, and bitz. It will most likely look similar to the original altar that I built. I have started working on it so as soon as it is done pics to follow. Thanks again!!

@Regnak
It makes me happy to hear that you think the headstone contest was a "lovely" idea, that was the intention and I am glad it is working!!

And keep the comments coming, also I am very grateful of all the votes and flattered by the generous scores

Mike

Here we go one scratch built sarcophagus!! It is ornamented with purity seals and no doubt holds a hero of some sort. I have melted the top in place and added handles to simulate the separation of the "lid" to the sarcophagus. I also added some battle damage to liven it up a bit. This one will be a tan-ish sandstone color with the top in a burnished bronze. It will look as if it has aged and not be cleaned for a loooooong time leaving it more greenish ( i.e. the statue of liberty ) Let me know what you think, love it or hate it, plus suggestions are always appreciated!!

Thanks and here we go...

Mike

Great stuff! Hmmmm... "Regnak" would look pretty good on that

omg so awesome makes me wanna start a city of death

I like the sarcophagus alot! Id make it a similar color to other stone things on the board, so it looks like its made of local stone.

whalemusic360 wrote:I like the sarcophagus alot! Id make it a similar color to other stone things on the board, so it looks like its made of local stone.

But, if it was a HERO then maybe a special stone was mined from another area or planet!
Thanks for the input and you maybe right about it sticking out to much... we will see

Mike

You'd think a hero would have a whole mosouleum (spelled that wrong!) or maybe more. And if he was a local hero, wouldnt he be honored with the greatest local stone?

Touché salesman touché


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But what if space was so limited that they cremate everyone except the royalty or heros

Then theres no way Silver would get a tombstone

Hey!

I might be tempted to make a small cut into the foam around the edges of the lid to make it look like the lid is quite thick and is sitting "in" the stone block, rather than floating on top?

SilverMK2 wrote:Hey!

I might be tempted to make a small cut into the foam around the edges of the lid to make it look like the lid is quite thick and is sitting "in" the stone block, rather than floating on top?

The first one that I made had a deep cut around it but it didn't look right. If you look close at this one, I attempted to make it look like a lid with decay around it!! I will probably paint it tonight so after it is done you should see much more detail.

Also whalemusic360 is just jealous!!

Yup, totally am. Thats what happens when I dont catch this blog untill its this far along :(

Excellent sarcophagus. Good thinking on the lid there, I've been trying to come up with a good way to use that piece.

Hot off the painting table for your viewing pleasure!! Don't hold back, please let me know what you think.I am my own worst critic when it come my scratch build, but I actually really like this one

That is the best aged metal I've ever seen!


Critisim.....hmmm.........

OH, got one! If it was delapidated and forgotten, wouldn't the paper purity seals have fallen apart by now?

whalemusic360 wrote:That is the best aged metal I've ever seen!


Critisim.....hmmm.........

OH, got one! If it was delapidated and forgotten, wouldn't the paper purity seals have fallen apart by now?

It's the future paper is stronger!!!

This is excellent. You could make the moss a bit darker/browner so its a little more creepifying. Though glowing moss might be unsettling too so maybe brighter.

I don't know if you've seen this thread, but it has a really good copper weathering wash that I think would work really well on this piece.

SilverMK2 wrote:I don't know if you've seen this thread, but it has a really good copper weathering wash that I think would work really well on this piece.

So I guess your saying you don't like it? I think it turned out pretty good. I will watch the video when I get home.

Mike

Nothing of the sort, I just thought you might find it interesting

The tarnish you have on your piece seems like it has only been building up for a short while, which would fit with a city recently under attack (about a year or so perhaps?) - the people who usually tending it perhaps having been killed, or unable to stay there long enough to clean it properly?

I like it. I think the deep blue looks really nice. Is is necron abyss watered down?

Looking forward to seeing it in situ.

Peter

PDH wrote:I like it. I think the deep blue looks really nice. Is is necron abyss watered down?

Looking forward to seeing it in situ.

Peter

Basecoat- beastial browm, drybrush burnished bronze, light drybrush mythiral silver, watered down hawk turquoise, then finally watered down asurmen blue. It looks better in person!! But I love how it turned out. Thanks for the comment!!

Mike

I think I have to agree about the purity seals. Maybe make them quite a bit more ragged, the paper ripped away more and only the somewhat discoloured seal holding to the tatters.

Hey gang just a quick one tonight. I am in Texas on a business trip but as soon as I get home I will get to work on the graveyard. Pics forthcoming, I am going to remove the purity seal as well. Thanks for all the feedback.

I am back from texas and ready to start the final mock up. The city of death bitz I bought may have to wait for another project . There are seriously huge and I may have to re think the layout in order to use them. I will have a few pics up later for your input!!!!

side note: I got a chance to play Halo Reach, and Fable 3!!! They are going to be incredible . Plus Medal Of Honor is going to be much much better then COD Black Ops !!!



Mike

I look forward to playing you at Halo Reach

*has it on pre-order*

I also look forward to seeing your plans/progress

I am getting a free copy!!! And yes TeamRamrodKMF is my xbox tag!!

And the graveyard may need to be ripped up in order to have a mausoleum!! Also it is going to be HUGE!!! So I may leave it out and replace it with another sarcophagus?!?!
Not quit sure yet!!

You could always make several graveyards that fit together, modular style

If you do 9 tiles the size of the one you have at the moment, you can fit all sorts of things in there

Also *shakes fist at free copy* - I'm getting legendary, so

My live tag is my username here.

I played the reach and MoH betas, they were both very good. Not pumped for fable though, the last 2 haven't lived up to the hype. I figure if I have no expectations I cant be let down.

My Live Tag is the same as my UN as well.

After a super frustrating time I have ordered a pre-made mausoleum from armorcast!! I will save the bitz I ordered for another building, the final one I think . Anyway that is for another post. So with the day off and paint on the brain I decided to have a go at the Altar!!! It is a simple paint job lots of subtle color change but the big question is how do you like the marble effect . It has a few layers of Ard coat and I think it turned out good!! So feedback on this one would be very much appreciated. As always thanks for the views and comments, keep um coming.


Mike

This thread may offer you some ideas, hope it helps.
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=260498

I like it, very big rock slab lookin.

whalemusic360 wrote:I like it, very big rock slab lookin.

Thanks for the comment.Any critiques? Anything you you think could make it better? Does it look like marble??

Thanks again,
Mike

Hmmm. Not sure on the speaker/light thingy. Kinda seems outta place on an alter, even a grimdark one. Not convinced one the skulls either. Granted, skulls are always 40k.

The marble looks pretty good - did you think about spackling on some different colour, such as red, green or black by flicking paint off a brush?

To make this kind of marble: http://mayang.com/textures/Stone/images/Marble/spotty_marble_4142267.JPG

Another idea might be to use a small quantity of really thinned oil paint and create a thin layer over the top of the glossed surface, and drop small drips of thinner onto it as it dries to create the kind of mottled marble effect as seen here:
http://budgie.deviantart.com/art/Marble-Stock-Texture-For-You-57816005

The white areas would correspond to the base colour and would be where you dripped the extra thinner.

I've not tried either of these methods really (the oil paint one I have accidentally done something similar ), but thought they might interest you if you wanted to have a go.

Looks great as it is though

Also, are you going to put any text on the books? Some illuminated lettering would be quite cool

My wife the artist who is always the biggest supporter of my painting does NOT like marble effect I did . After listening to some ideas she has, I think it is simply missing the veins that marble has running through it. If I get a chance to re-paint it tonight I will put up pics.

@Whalemusic360
The skulls ,candles, scrolls, and the like have not been painted yet. They make more sense and look better when they are all together. I like the light on the altar though, it seems fitting in a sci-fi way. There is also a servo skull that will be floating around the top. Thanks for the feedback and as always keep um coming

@Lennysmash
Thanks for that link, I would love to use hirst molds one day!!But I don't think I have the time to undertake such an epic task!

@SilverMK2

Also, are you going to put any text on the books? Some illuminated lettering would be quite cool

That sounds really cool!!! Any idea how one would do said letters??

Keep the comments coming and feedback is always appreciated!!

Mike

madmartykmf wrote:@SilverMK2

Also, are you going to put any text on the books? Some illuminated lettering would be quite cool

That somes really cool!!! Any idea how one would do said letters??

Well, the ones I have seen most tend to have green, red and gold in the lettering. I would start off painting a small gold square, then frame it with a very thin box of red. Then do the main letter inside the box in the same red. Then add in a few very small blobs of green perhaps? At this scale you don't have to make it look like a letter really though. Then add in the usual squiggles for letters, etc for the rest of the page

SilverMK2 wrote:

madmartykmf wrote:@SilverMK2

Also, are you going to put any text on the books? Some illuminated lettering would be quite cool

That somes really cool!!! Any idea how one would do said letters??

Well, the ones I have seen most tend to have green, red and gold in the lettering. I would start off painting a small gold square, then frame it with a very thin box of red. Then do the main letter inside the box in the same red. Then add in a few very small blobs of green perhaps? At this scale you don't have to make it look like a letter really though. Then add in the usual squiggles for letters, etc for the rest of the page

Sounds challenging and fun at the same time!! You are the second person to suggest that, so I am game to try it!! No painting today The wife and I are spending the day together. Should be fun though

Ok I lied!! My wife went to the gym and I got to paint for a few minutes. I think you will all agree the marble looks much better. And of course my wife was right marble has veins and that is what it was missing

So lets here what you think!!
Mike

This is what I was going for http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00RvfTlCodZPqS/Marble-Tile-and-Slab-Carrara-White-Marble-BM043-.jpg&imgrefurl=http://stonebrother.en.made-in-china.com/product/TqfmlbWdXPVS/China-Marble-Tile-and-Slab-Carrara-White-Marble-BM043-.html&usg=__nY6jgf_zViclSHiJwNnhaWYPeVU=&h=395&w=400&sz=10&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=uZ5lzCSY2PshMM:&tbnh=117&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwhite%2Bmarble%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-USfficial%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D617%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=112&vpy=285&dur=98&hovh=223&hovw=226&tx=128&ty=132&ei=mm2CTKqIMYWdlgeAw9HuDg&oei=j22CTM2JFcP98Aap-Nhm&esq=4&page=1&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0

Not bad

They look a bit to uniform. Maybe adding some deviation in direction and line size may help. Look a bit like lightning bolts or cracks. I can see where your going tho. Maybe a bit of the fine paint speckles silver suggested.

They look a bit to uniform. Maybe adding some deviation in direction and line size may help. Look a bit like lightning bolts or cracks. I can see where your going tho. Maybe a bit of the fine paint speckles silver suggested.

I see what your saying Whalemusic360, I am going to introduce a light brown into the opposite direction Hopefully I wont ruin it

Check this out!!

Good stuff as always, think the extra veins in the marble will help, agree with whalemusic that it looks a bit too 'crack-like' at the moment. Or possibly go over the black with red or green?

Nice chalice too

Nice chalice, you wanna do mine too?

the light brown may work, but i think there are too many lines and they are too dark/wide. if that makes sense?

brown/white marble!! This is the final product... take it or leave it . I am over trying to paint marble!!! HAHAHAHAHA

Hope you like it!!

That looks much more marble-y then previous. The 1st looked like granite, the second like cracked granite. This has much more depth to it.

And seriously, you doin my chalice?

whalemusic360 wrote:That looks much more marble-y then previous. The 1st looked like granite, the second like cracked granite. This has much more depth to it.

And seriously, you doin my chalice?

I will pm you my address and sure I paint yours no charge

Sweet! My first one came out meh, and I was holding off on the second one (yes, I got 2 space hulks, they were a good deal really)

whalemusic360 wrote:Sweet! My first one came out meh, and I was holding off on the second one (yes, I got 2 space hulks, they were a good deal really)

I was thinking you send me the one on the spure and you get the one I just painted!! If that is ok.

I can do dat! It's brand spankin new, along with the rest of my 2nd SH

Hey

I'm liking the marble, I tried painting it once and gave up. Adding the smoky brown veins really brings it out. Are you going to be putting the three skulls back? Because I think they would help break up the surface and add another point of interest.

As for the chalice it looks really nice and that's my problem with it. Its in a ruin cathedral in a war torn city. So can I suggest when you paint the one Whalemusic360 sends you please dull down the Blood/Wine a bit. eg http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/55983/55983,1162235772,1/stock-photo-close-up-of-chalice-with-wine-and-bible-shallow-dof-2082977.jpg

Looking forward to seeing what becomes of the grave yard.

Cheers

Peter

Why have I never seen this before? It is PURE AWESOME!!!

PDH wrote:Hey

I'm liking the marble, I tried painting it once and gave up. Adding the smoky brown veins really brings it out. Are you going to be putting the three skulls back? Because I think they would help break up the surface and add another point of interest.

As for the chalice it looks really nice and that's my problem with it. Its in a ruin cathedral in a war torn city. So can I suggest when you paint the one Whalemusic360 sends you please dull down the Blood/Wine a bit. eg http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/55983/55983,1162235772,1/stock-photo-close-up-of-chalice-with-wine-and-bible-shallow-dof-2082977.jpg

Looking forward to seeing what becomes of the grave yard.

Cheers

Peter

Thanks I am starting to like it more, and more. Marble is a pain in the and I am glad to be finished with it. As for the skulls, yes!! They will be back along with books and candles. I also get what you are saying about the chalice. That is why I am giving this one to Whalemusic360 The paint doesn't fit the theme, but it is sweet!! As for the graveyard I am at a stand still until my armorcast order arrives. I am excited to finish it, but kinda glad that it is on hold. As we all know sometimes it is hard to finish a project 100%. The Altar was the very last thing I had left to do. So the delay in the graveyard gave the final push to finish the Altar. As soon as the candles, books, etc are painted I will have pics up.

Thanks for your help!! Your Nerco army is looking good

Why have I never seen this before? It is PURE AWESOME!!!

I am glad you like it!! Welcome to the madness



As always keep the comments coming and thanks for all the fish

Mike

madmartykmf wrote:

They look a bit to uniform. Maybe adding some deviation in direction and line size may help. Look a bit like lightning bolts or cracks. I can see where your going tho. Maybe a bit of the fine paint speckles silver suggested.

I see what your saying Whalemusic360, I am going to introduce a light brown into the opposite direction Hopefully I wont ruin it

Check this out!!

The Chalice from the Palace has the pellet with the poison. The Flagon within the Dragon has the brew that is true.

This was given to me from dakka member Reaper6 now I pass it on to you enjoy.

http://www.terragenesis.co.uk/infopages/page561.html

Just stopped by the Baltimore battle bunker one last time before they close forever. It was kinda sad!!!

Anything good for cheap?

whalemusic360 wrote:Anything good for cheap?

It is GW, what do you think. It was empty as far as display cases goes. No discounts on anything though.

Well that's lame. Shoulda gave em a heads up that they are replacing my brand new Apocalypse templates and Ironclad Dred on Tuesday

Hey gang what an awesome announcement by GW eh!?!? And I didn't win the RoB board so instead sulking I decided to paint! Here is the almost finished mock up of the Altar. Nothing is glued down except for the Servo Skull (which I love BTW). I took a suggestion from one of you guys (Chibi Bodge-Battle, thank you sir) and decided to make a cloth for the Altar. Let me know what you think. I am usually really hard on myself but I am really loving the almost finished Altar . Anyhow your input is highly valued so fire away at me!!

Mike

Looking fantastic. The marble looks a lot better now and the whole piece is fantastic.

That looks great!

SilverMK2 wrote:Looking fantastic. The marble looks a lot better now and the whole piece is fantastic.

That looks great!

Thanks as always gentleman!!!

Mike

That marble looks fantastic now it's all in place, good job

monkeytroll wrote:That marble looks fantastic now it's all in place, good job

I am very happy with it, BUT I have to tell you the cloth really tied it all together. The items on the Altar were lost because of the complex colors of the marble. I needed to break up the color confusion. The cloth was a simple way to do just that. I am probably not going to glue anything down except the cloth thus making it an objective maker!!

Thanks for the comment!!

Mike

Chibi did good.

I understand what you mean about the Alter cloth, it gives it that something special and as you say breaks up the marble colour. Servo Skulls are always cool. madmartykmf lets have a picture of it in place in the chapel.

Peter

My little city of death play set

weetyskemian44 wrote:My little city of death play set

Hahaha!!!!

That was very funny. I will take of few pics tonight of altar in the chapel.

Thanks again for all the great feedback, keep it coming!!



Mike

Can you take a clear pic of the servo skull? I have to paint some myself.

whalemusic360 wrote:Can you take a clear pic of the servo skull? I have to paint some myself.

You got it buddy. Did you send the chalice yet?

Still wrangling up boxes for marines, should go out tomorrow morn. I'm trying to make just the one trip to the PO

seriously I want a city of death play set for my birthday!!

weetyskemian44 wrote:seriously I want a city of death play set for my birthday!!

Well you cant have mine , but when you do start your own I would love to see it in the PM blogs

Mike

I will have to move into a larger apartment first...

Just a quick one tonight. Two pics by request for PDH and Whalmusic360, enjoy

Mike

Ohh you have a Priest Big hands too! I've just stripped one.

If I may suggest something, (if you haven't done it already, I have only read a few pages) you should make portable MG's on a bipod (I think in 40k they are autoguns) in some of the windows, to look like someone set up a camping spot and then left.

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:If I may suggest something, (if you haven't done it already, I have only read a few pages) you should make portable MG's on a bipod (I think in 40k they are autoguns) in some of the windows, to look like someone set up a camping spot and then left.

Thanks for the comment, but which one of my buildings were you thinking about? The chapel doesn't lend itself ( in my mind ) to need gun placements. It is a cool idea though and the command building already has a perch for a sniper. Maybe I will look into doing something like that in the future.

Thanks again and keep um coming!!

Mike

Well, I assume you have (or will have) just normal buildings. Just put some up in there.

Work, Work, Work... sorry for no updates everyone. As soon as I have some progress I will post some pics. My armorcast graveyard pieces should be here any day now!! Very excited to get back to work on it!!

Mike

Yes you heard right I am giving away the scratch built SARCOPHAGUS I made to one lucky person!!!! Let me know if you want it and I will take the entries and select one at random!! Here is a pic below as a reminder...

Mike

Hell, were I to live closer to you, I'd be cheerfully volunteering for giving a shelter to this awesome sarcophagus...

But I'm sure someone out there will be as welcoming as I'd be!!

Oh, sign me up!

These pieces look like they would add so much narrative and color to your battle. Very nice.

Postman came through today with my Armorcast order!!! This is the final mock up for the graveyard. There will be debris added as well as a gravel path. It should hit the painting table tomorrow Here are some pics , let me know what you think.


Mike

Very nice work! Love the effect you're doing with the moss as well. Looks really good.


BTW, saw the Ravens glass in the background on one of the pics earlier in the thread.


GO RAVENS!!!

Can we expect some random tree roots popping up? I have found that the round paint goobers from GW paint pots work quite well as roots. Things in general need to be roughed up a bit, all looks very care-given atm. Placement looks good tho, nice and orderly.

Really nice work on everything you've done so far Mike,

1. Altar looks fantastic
2. Graveyard looks superb

I was curious as to what you used for your base to the graveyard and if you ever decided to use the Home depot stuff.

Apostle Pat wrote:Really nice work on everything you've done so far Mike,

1. Altar looks fantastic
2. Graveyard looks superb

I was curious as to what you used for your base to the graveyard and if you ever decided to use the Home depot stuff.

Well thank you very much for your kind words. The bases of all of my buildings are modular movement trays!!http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440151a&prodId=prod1095472. They are very versatile as you can see. As far as the "home depot" question I am not sure what you mean, can you refresh my memory?? Now the basing as far as flocking goes, well lets just say I went a little nutty at the model train store Dead grass, gravel, and moss are being used on this one. Stay tuned...

As always thanks for the comments and keep um coming!!

OH BY THE WAY... Whalemusic 360 is the winner of the SARCOPHAGUS, congrats!!!

Mike

WOOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It'll be the best looking thing on my board

Hey

Looking good. While the sarcophagus looks cool the armour cast mausoleum fits better.

I think Whalemusic360 makes a good point, tree roots would look good...only problem is model placement?

Really cannot wait to see is finished.

Peter

madmartykmf wrote:

Apostle Pat wrote:Really nice work on everything you've done so far Mike,

1. Altar looks fantastic
2. Graveyard looks superb

I was curious as to what you used for your base to the graveyard and if you ever decided to use the Home depot stuff.

Well thank you very much for your kind words. The bases of all of my buildings are modular movement trays!!http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440151a&prodId=prod1095472. They are very versatile as you can see. As far as the "home depot" question I am not sure what you mean, can you refresh my memory?? Now the basing as far as flocking goes, well lets just say I went a little nutty at the model train store Dead grass, gravel, and moss are being used on this one. Stay tuned...

As always thanks for the comments and keep um coming!!

OH BY THE WAY... Whalemusic 360 is the winner of the SARCOPHAGUS, congrats!!!

Mike

Ya know I honestly couldn't remember what I was referring to with Home Depot... I believe it was the wood they sell that I use to base stuff with such as MDF board, but I like the trays, interesting touch, can't wait to see more of your work.

Apostle Pat wrote:

madmartykmf wrote:

Apostle Pat wrote:Really nice work on everything you've done so far Mike,

1. Altar looks fantastic
2. Graveyard looks superb

I was curious as to what you used for your base to the graveyard and if you ever decided to use the Home depot stuff.

Well thank you very much for your kind words. The bases of all of my buildings are modular movement trays!!http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440151a&prodId=prod1095472. They are very versatile as you can see. As far as the "home depot" question I am not sure what you mean, can you refresh my memory?? Now the basing as far as flocking goes, well lets just say I went a little nutty at the model train store Dead grass, gravel, and moss are being used on this one. Stay tuned...

As always thanks for the comments and keep um coming!!

OH BY THE WAY... Whalemusic 360 is the winner of the SARCOPHAGUS, congrats!!!

Mike

Ya know I honestly couldn't remember what I was referring to with Home Depot... I believe it was the wood they sell that I use to base stuff with such as MDF board, but I like the trays, interesting touch, can't wait to see more of your work.

Ahhh gotcha. I tried MDF but after I saw the movement trays I knew I had a winner. They are thin enough to not have a "CURB" effect and still ridged enough not to warp. Plus you can cut them to size and also use them as roof tops.

Thanks again
Mike


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Also Whalemusic, what is the paint pot thing your talking about?? I may do roots with green stuff but I wanted to know more about your idea!!!

Mike

Well, if you use GW paints, they often get a build up of paint in the top part. If you grab the dried (but usually still flexible) paint with so tweezers, it makes pretty good roots. Not sure I have any examples, I think the models they were on took a Simple Green bath.

Got ya!! I am a bit of a neat freak and I use a pallet when I paint... no crusty paint pots in my house Looks like green stuff it is Thanks for the neat idea though


Mike

Finally got the base coat down on the graveyard!! It has been a loooooong week between this past week and now!! I am glad it is finally over, Halo Reach is pretty freakin sweet though!! Anyway I should have some pics up at some point today. Also I bought a little surprise for the graveyard

More to come. And as always thanks for the comments and support. Whalemusic enjoy your package, let me know when you get it!!


Mike

Here is a little teaser to tide you guys over!!! Let me know what you think

The first one is very imperial. Not to sure on the second one tbh.

Question that's been bugging me for a while. As your using the movement treys, which have once inch squares (I think, I dont play fantasy), do you have any concerns with people being able to measure distance without having to measure?

Thanks for the comment. Question number one: Thanks and yes it is super awesome and lookin very Imperial! The guy on the spike will be modified to look like a priest that was left as a warning to anyone coming to reclaim the city!! Question two: I have never really thought about that before; I guess that you could but the whole table will be the RoB board. Only the city buildings utilize the movement trays. I just always thought that they look cool ,kind of like a real city street sidewalk, curb"ish" look.


Mike

Well at the very least now you can use that to your advantage when planning assaults and whatnot. They do look cool, I was going to steal the idea until I thought of that. I may still anyways.

Wow this stuff is right up my grim rusty dark gothic 40k back alley, truly beatifull work on the alter, and the termie but especialy the alter, just glanced over but will definately look more thoroughly , and thanks for the alter skulls scrolls candles link, have looking for a while for apropriate stuff like this. keep up the great work

Out of sheer curiosity I just measured the squares, they are actually NOT 1 inch squares they are more like 3/4 by 7/8 inches!! I guess you could estimate movement but it would still need to be measured with a tape of some sort!! Just an FYI

Mike

Ah cool. Thats what bugged me about the GW "roads" was they were easy to pre-measure with. That and they suck

Love the archway

neil101 wrote:Wow this stuff is right up my grim rusty dark gothic 40k back alley, truly beatifull work on the alter, and the termie but especialy the alter, just glanced over but will definately look more thoroughly , and thanks for the alter skulls scrolls candles link, have looking for a while for apropriate stuff like this. keep up the great work

Thanks for your kind words, your stuff is pretty ace as well!

I do have a question to pose to you all today though. "TO PAINT OR NOT TO PAINT?", What I mean by that is I am going to be using more flocking and sand, ballast etc then I have ever used before. I am by no means a rookie painter ( I like to think I have a good degree of skill ) but I wonder if I need to paint the ground cover? I will be using tons of static grass so the first thought is it would be a waste of paint. I have never based anything with natural items, I have always painted it. So I guess what I am asking is do you or would you think less of the final product knowing that the modeler did not paint everything ,relaying on the natural color of the basing material to do all the hard work?

Here is a quick pic to wet your appetite for the finished product. Unfortunately I have been so busy at work I have had little time for painting By the way Dead Rising 2 Rocks! Anyway I will be hard at work this weekend to make some major progress so stay tuned for updates!

Thanks as always for your comments and critiques,

Mike

Crap another game Im going to have to get. And then Fallout in a few weeks! ugh.

Oh, OT. Tree looks good, very tree-ish.

I've never really thought unpainted ground cover works very well, something to do with the scaling of the colours and light, but if there's plenty of static grass going on a wash or two might be enough.

monkeytroll wrote:I've never really thought unpainted ground cover works very well, something to do with the scaling of the colours and light, but if there's plenty of static grass going on a wash or two might be enough.

That was sort of what I was thinking. Woodland senics offers so many pigmented ground coverings it seems as if they are designed to not be painted. The color I picked out is a small ballast with a darker brown color. I may do a few test examples and let you guys decide which one looks better.


Thanks for the input,
Mike


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@Whalemusic360
I am glad it looks like a tree to you and not a shrubbery

Fall Out New Vegas looks good, but my short attention span leans me more towards faster paced games!

I use the GF9 small grit and large grit to base pretty much everything (along with some field grass and GF9 static grass). I never paint it or wash it.

I've not used any "natural" stuff (twigs etc) though. I would echo monkeytroll though - the scale of the colouring might look off.

Though I am planning on adding a few more scenic bases into my Eldar army, and nothing but scenic bases for my IG when I get rount to them