Hey folks, it is about time for a new thread detailing all the kits and conversion parts coming out of Puppets War these days and I have taken it upon myself to keep this thread updated to the best of my ability.
As per the other thread, specialist troops appear to be in the works.
As for those shields, while I don't mind having shield options, I'd rather have some straight sci-fi looking ones rather than psuedo-Greek or Celtic designs. Or some plain empty left hands. Or som arm sets that are design to allow the figure to hold a weapon with both hands. Any of those options would be nice.
They look cool, I considered using them as a cheaper Imperial Guard stand in, till I saw the price and realised they were £7 more expensive, without including p&p.
Ouze wrote: I don't like the heads much but otherwise love the models.
If only there was a company making alternate IG heads...
Yeah, actually, would maybe love to see those guys with the pig iron heads....would have made some awesome tau human aux (where is my tau allies supplement?)
Of course, need some scale shots to determine suitability.
Ketara wrote: I just noticed that a number of the Cyber Invader units are no longer available. What happened to them?
Product seems to get removed all the time as new stuff goes up. I'd guess that they probably retired the molds and are making new ones. Hopefully they'll be doing the same with their Strikers. I'd like to get some that can actually be posed aiming their weapons like the one in that scale picture.
The teaser for them all went up a few months ago. If they released strikers first, then troopers a couple months later, then these guys within what, a month of the trooper release, I think we can expect it to be at least another month before we see the big dudes out.
Considering that the only difference between a Ripper and a Destroyer is an arm and head swap, I don't think it'll even take that long to get them out. I was kind of hoping the parts for both would be included in that set though.
Barzam wrote: Considering that the only difference between a Ripper and a Destroyer is an arm and head swap, I don't think it'll even take that long to get them out. I was kind of hoping the parts for both would be included in that set though.
Actually, the rifle arms for striker models are no more than an arm swap either, yet they've kept us waiting on those for almost 2 months now.
McNinja wrote: Has anyone gotten the new ripper suits? I'd love to see how well they turned out.
I just got my shipment. I got them within a week after ordering, 2nd day after they emailed me that they were shipped (mainland Europe). There are only tiny casting defects that you won't notice unless you specifically go look for them, no bubbles to speak of, and hardly if any flash. The shipping method itself seems to me to be a bit risky (bubble envelop, no small box), but they aren't damaged at all so I guess they are correct in assuming that's safe enough.
Pics or it didn't happen:
Let me know if you want better/different pictures and I'll make some.
Edit: Not sure why it's posting the pictures on the side. They weren't sideways when I uploaded them, and they refuse to be changed back.
They are mostly "loose" from the legs, so if you really wanted to you could shorten them yourself to be only 2 thingies long iso 4.. Wouldn't recommend it without a dremel or something similar though.
The bases are 25mm. They werent meant for the rippers, but since I ordered them at the same time from Puppet's War I figured I might aswell post them at the same time.
Cleaned up and magnetized. The precut holes make magnetising a breeze. Some small bubbles popped up in the shoulders when clearing the casting rods, but nothing you haven't seen countless times before on any resin, easily fixed if you dont plan on using shoulder pads. If you like the asthetics I would recommend the kit any time.
My pleasure.
Something I only just noticed: those holes on top or their gorget look like part of the armor itself. However, they would also hold a magnet with a little figetting so you can give them a cyclone missile rack or banner. No clue if that's intentional or not, but a nice side benefit.
I really like the design of those. Do they come with the proper options to make devastator versions of the GW equivalent? If not, would such bits be in the pipeline?
Henshini wrote: I'd be curious to see them next to terminators, or even centurions.
Don't have any centurions, since I hate the models. I'm actually waiting for the destroyers from PW to come out to use those instead.
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Gitsplitta wrote: I really like the design of those. Do they come with the proper options to make devastator versions of the GW equivalent? If not, would such bits be in the pipeline?
The bits I posted are all they come with. They are releasing destroyers in the (near) future, which come with alternative arms, and a "head" swap. I have no clue how big centurions are in comparison to terminators, so can't say if they would make a good fit sizewise.
Some really nice sculpts, think the less armoured guys in the first post are probably my favourite. Can see those being useful for tons of different games.
And if PW can make another miniature of that quality Centurion-sized, they will be rolling in it..
These are great, I can see use for them as "boarding Termies" with a proper kitbash. I hope they decide to make a bigger version also.
Edit: It looks like the Destroyer suit is aimed to be a tooled up version but appears to use the same body. Maybe they'll bulk it up even more before release?
I think I'd like to see the PW Ripper Suit with a GW Termie head. I like the idea of this as a boarding suit. I could totally see this thing lumbering down the corridors of a hulk with some regular Termies coming up behind one of these guys.
Vehicle is reasonable and has a turret ring. I think I'll throw out a test order to see if I like what I get. It'll be a perfect transport for my Forge Father counts-as SOB army.
Hulksmash wrote: Vehicle is reasonable and has a turret ring. I think I'll throw out a test order to see if I like what I get. It'll be a perfect transport for my Forge Father counts-as SOB army.
I really like the looks of the APC, after your done please post up some photos?
Does it come with the appropiate jetpack? Me likes!
You can get them from the Chaos Raptors kits or 3rd party sellers like Chapterhouse. I don't know if Puppets War has them or not. I didn't see any on their site.
A lot of stuff seems to get pulled pretty regularly. I assume it's due to mold degredation. There's a lot of things that have been removed over time. For instance, all of the older manned turrets are gone.
These new Hellclaws look like they'd be good for some Mutilators or possibly some Nurgle Termies.
I think redoing their molds (or their product lines) is a good idea. Puppet's War has learned a lot since the early stuff and are producing some great items, and better quality casts.
Well, as they say it takes them 12 days to assemble an order, it has been 8 days, they must be pouring the apcs and turrets, so I am hoping that soon I will be told it has been assembled and shipped, then I can pose familiar models next to them for a size reference
The plane really just looks unfinished to me. Like the inks re being cast separate and will need to be pinned on, and here should be a rear section added.
Alpharius wrote: Please post pics and an overall review when they arrive!
You bet I will, with soldiers and other vehicles for comparative size and such. I will also build one to make sure of the ease or complexity of construction.
Theophony wrote: The plane really just looks unfinished to me. Like the inks re being cast separate and will need to be pinned on, and here should be a rear section added.
Just got my shipment from Puppets War, and I have to say I'm pretty impressed. The Rocket Man Helmets I ordered are all free of bubbles/voids/mold tearout and have almost non-existant mold shift lines. The gatling guns are all pretty nice except for the one bubble in the back of the 2nd from the left in the last image. That should be pretty easy to fill with a small blob of greenstuff seeing as there isn't really any detail in that spot. The gun barrels coming pre-drilled is a huge plus to me as I do that on all of my weaponry. Order preparation time was about 3 weeks for me which is longer than I expected. The shipping however, was pretty quick at 7 business days to the USA.
Well, as I promised, a quick show of scale comparison of the Taurus APC and I added turrets to make it Chimera/Razorback stand in and I must say that after clean up, assembly was pretty easy, had to hold some parts right but worth it!
Now I did get the Puppet's War APC in, and Brick is a very apt nickname for it!
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turrets so that they will be more Chimera like, I will close he turrets but one could also use as a old school Razorback as the figure is full armored, like a SM. I ordered an assortment of weapons [/img] [/img]
Even the tires are chunky! [/img]
Just assembled this one for show in minutes! [/img] [/img]
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It is as all resin kits, super glue needed, not plastic cement. some flash and burs to clean off, but well, is a beauty!
Pretty much about the size of Chimeras and Rhinos so I think it is just that they do look much bigger alone than up with the actual soldier minis and other vehicles, then they seem less huge, but altogether Brick is a good nickname as they are weighty little beasts.
Commander Cain wrote: That's very nice casting quality, glad they are picking up their game!
The only spots with bubbles was on the undersides of turrets, hulls, some bur cleaning to do, but still very nice quality casts considering how few pieces had such. Any bubble holes or gaps I can handle with grey stuff
I promised such results, and delivered, no problem at all! Just the long wait for the shipment to get here!
It is a massive beast for being around Chimera size, I might be able to add dozer blades as they seem made to accept the spare bits, I just have to find one of my spare dozer blades and see.
It looks like the Destroyer variant of the Ripper may be coming out soon. Other new stuff in this photo include the desert raider heads and Winged Hussar wingpack. Supposedly some other new stuff is in the background.
Polish Space marines is actually a pretty cool idea.... I might do a Squad or two for my eventual Crusade army.... Perhaps as a squad of "counts-as" Templars or White Scars...
No one really knows, their Facebook doesn't give give that sort of info, but given given the time it took took for the human human stuff I'd say a month or two.
Oh, and I should've mentioned, that Notcron mech is actually two of their kits kitbashed together. Their robot scarab is forming the body and the upper torso is made from one of their Wraiths.
That's neat and all, but how is it that none of you have mentioned these?
I think that shield finally sold me on these guys. I want a combination with the covered head section, the segmented samurai shoulder armor, the big shield, and some sort of heavy machine gun.
H.B.M.C. wrote:What happened to all the not-Necron stuff they used to sell?
I always wonder what happened to several of them. Really miss the Cyber Droids that were great for Crypteks.
Barzam wrote:Presumably mold degradation.
I always figured that they got a few C&D's from GW, especially on the Arthropods. I couldn't see them letting the molds get bad enough where they had to cease production.
My 'But It Now' finger is really itching over that Golem, but I can't see a use for it, and being on a tight budget just now, I have to be pretty brutal with myself on stuff that I can't use, and I already I have plenty to paint.
azreal13 wrote: My 'But It Now' finger is really itching over that Golem, but I can't see a use for it, and being on a tight budget just now, I have to be pretty brutal with myself on stuff that I can't use, and I already I have plenty to paint.
I'm not sure how long I'll hold out...
It's always a touchy thing with Puppets War and buying their stuff.
If I don't get it now, will it be there later?
I got the 120 scarabs instead of the 10 because of that.
I think their current business modell is to create new stuff, produce it till the demand dies down, then create something new, produce it and so on. All previous stuff will be produced when the demand is high enough again. It does not hurt to write them a mail and ask what happened to the not-Necron stuff. If they see people are intrested it might return. This is my experince from doing business with them one year ago. Just do not expect ad hoc super fast production.
Has anyone ordered stuff from these guys that wasn't utter crap? There concepts and pictures are amazing every product I've ordered is terrible garbage. (Granted I've only ordered 2 times and purchased one from ebay). I want to like all their stuff, I love the sculpts, but can't get anything worth investing in.
buckero0 wrote: Has anyone ordered stuff from these guys that wasn't utter crap? There concepts and pictures are amazing every product I've ordered is terrible garbage. (Granted I've only ordered 2 times and purchased one from ebay). I want to like all their stuff, I love the sculpts, but can't get anything worth investing in.
How long ago was this?
They have definitely improved (in my personal orders) over time. But I haven't ordered anything in a while.
Unfortunately for us (Dakka-ites) PuppetsWar has decided to remove themselves from Dakka instead of dealing with the criticism of their casting quality.
I have been in (gamer-)love with their concepts since very early on. I have a quite a few pieces from them (check my profile pic and albums) and nearly all have had insignificant to minor casting problems, with a few select small bits being nearly unusable.
But, based on my last order and from the most recent reviews of others here, they have seem to have gotten better.
I do hope they have gotten better, but I'm not sure how much we can trust casts that puppetswar have sent out as promo pieces in terms of final product quality. I'm sure the reviewer is honest, but promo stuff always has its best foot forward while their retail stuff doesn't always do so as well...
I have had good experience using their parts for alternative space marine shoulders and heads. I have also been using those round shields for Storm shields and they are beautiful.
Posted up some shoulder comparisons and use on normal tac marines here:
The shoulders were a bit of a pain to cut off the sprues as they were attached by the bottom which is the thinnest, most fragile section. Also does not fit in exactly the same manner as normal tac marine shoulders as the inside 'hollow' is smaller. Easy to adjust for this though.
Overall pretty happy with the results, especially the shields.
SickSix wrote: Unfortunately for us (Dakka-ites) PuppetsWar has decided to remove themselves from Dakka instead of dealing with the criticism of their casting quality.
SickSix wrote: Unfortunately for us (Dakka-ites) PuppetsWar has decided to remove themselves from Dakka instead of dealing with the criticism of their casting quality.
Really? When did that happen?
It's been several months now. If you notice all the news and preview posts have been from Dakka-ites. There hasn't been an official post from PW in a long time.
I will say that the stuff I got from them before everything went to poop was solid. Granted I haven't really inspected the flyers yet but all the turrets and such were fine.
That said I'm leery of getting stuff from them and their price point doesn't make me comfortable with the risk.
SickSix wrote: Unfortunately for us (Dakka-ites) PuppetsWar has decided to remove themselves from Dakka instead of dealing with the criticism of their casting quality.
Really? When did that happen?
It's been several months now. If you notice all the news and preview posts have been from Dakka-ites. There hasn't been an official post from PW in a long time.
Actually they haven't been seen for about a year and a half now. Guess the criticism just got too much for them...
turgon868 wrote: I have had good experience using their parts for alternative space marine shoulders and heads. I have also been using those round shields for Storm shields and they are beautiful.
Posted up some shoulder comparisons and use on normal tac marines here:
The shoulders were a bit of a pain to cut off the sprues as they were attached by the bottom which is the thinnest, most fragile section. Also does not fit in exactly the same manner as normal tac marine shoulders as the inside 'hollow' is smaller. Easy to adjust for this though.
Overall pretty happy with the results, especially the shields.
Your project looks great, Turgon. I've thought of doing something similar for a small force of Minotaurs as part of a combined SM force. The only problems are that the Minotaurs are basically a bunch of dicks who don't play well with others, and, well.. look at the casting of this shoulder pad. Disregarding the flash and bubble hole, but specifically the fact that the ends of both horns are miscast, which shows that PW haven't really lifted their game. It's really disappointing that they haven't made an effort to improve their casting. Maxmini and Kromlech, also from Poland always send out top quality casts, not to mention outfits like Anvil. Puppetswar really do have some of the very best not-40k designs, but their quality control is clearly still ...inconsistent.
Not having a go at you at all, I'm interested in following your blog and seeing where you take the project.
Well as soon as the super Rippers come out. I will be ordering a set. So as usual I will do a full review. I'm eagerly awaiting that set to hit the store.
Azazelx wrote: I do hope they have gotten better, but I'm not sure how much we can trust casts that puppetswar have sent out as promo pieces in terms of final product quality. I'm sure the reviewer is honest, but promo stuff always has its best foot forward while their retail stuff doesn't always do so as well...
Most of the stuff I was sent (It's a promotional thing that TastyTaste over at Blood of Kittens has put together with commission artists and 3rd Party distributors) was top notch, with little to no airbubbles, miscasts, etc. There are a couple of models that won't be getting great reviews from me that they sent me, though. Lots of flashing and some bad warping on one piece, unfortunately. I love their stuff though, and was glad when I was given them as the 3rd party distributors, but its a shame it sounds like they're having problems with their quality.
Azazelx wrote: I do hope they have gotten better, but I'm not sure how much we can trust casts that puppetswar have sent out as promo pieces in terms of final product quality. I'm sure the reviewer is honest, but promo stuff always has its best foot forward while their retail stuff doesn't always do so as well...
Most of the stuff I was sent (It's a promotional thing that TastyTaste over at Blood of Kittens has put together with commission artists and 3rd Party distributors) was top notch, with little to no airbubbles, miscasts, etc. There are a couple of models that won't be getting great reviews from me that they sent me, though. Lots of flashing and some bad warping on one piece, unfortunately. I love their stuff though, and was glad when I was given them as the 3rd party distributors, but its a shame it sounds like they're having problems with their quality.
This is pretty much why they stopped posting here, in my opinion - rather than engaging further with their customers and fixing their quality, which is a shame.
Their designs are fantastic, but they are not trustworthy, and the quality of what they send to customers is a dice roll at best. I'd love to spend hundreds more with them, but sadly, I do not trust them. Look at Maxmini, Kromlech, Anvil, Secret Weapon to see the kind of quality that's possible to produce on a consistent basis.
I had an order with Puppets War in january. Their website said they'd dispatch within 12 working days (cast to order presumably) and on the 16th day after ordering (including 2 weekends there) I got an email saying my package was dispatched and it arrived in my mailbox 4 days later.
The infantry guys I got as part of their apology were quite decent. No real issues with them. Given that they were part of an apology/replacement order, I'd bear that in mind when it comes to the casting quality if you were to buy from them, and refer you to check out recent reviews of their stuff that people have received (not promo stuff, though). I'd be interested in seeing some more myself, since seeing the garbage casts they shipped to Turgon868 above doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.
I still haven't done anything at all with the PW stuff I got (originals or replacements) since whenever I look at them I get angry again. (a 3 week turnaround order turning into three months of bs and stress wasn't a good experience). I'll get around to it eventually, but I'm working on other projects for now.
Looks like the same bodies with two different head options? Both look good, though I prefer the desert troopers myself. I should dig out and finish my Tallarn models...
It seems PW have finally gotten round to building not one but two chassis for their Big Momma cannon. Both wheeled and tracked which is very nice indeed. Where they store the ammo in those vehicles is beyond me but I still think they look pretty cool.
Looking at the prices I have to say that they seem extremely decent, $40 is about the same price as a bog-standard Rhino for something that looks to be Landraider/Macharius sized, awesome.
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Commander Cain wrote:Looking at the prices I have to say that they seem extremely decent, $40 is about the same price as a bog-standard Rhino for something that looks to be Landraider/Macharius sized, awesome.
The Big Momma cannon fits on a Rhino chasis. So they are not that big.
Commander Cain wrote: Huh, I was basing my guess around your conversion actually. I was convinced you fitted that thing to a LR! I stand corrected.
Well I chopped the whole thing up to make my Ares. The cannon looks much better on the bigger LR chassis in my opinion but takes quite a lot of work to achieve.
Arms for both available separately as well as the Shredder pads. According to Facebook the Destroyers' missile pods, face plates and shoulder pads will be available separately soon.
Uh, if you're talking about the big guys above you may want to know that they are terminator size. GW termies in the States are also $50 iirc, so that price kinda makes sense...
Edit: Never mind, they come in a set of 5, I have no idea what you are referring to!
Any chance for IG sized shoulder pads? Like the Cadian pads? Having IG sized pads would help me purchase arms so I could have a more visual tie in to my rather oversized Cadian force.
That Warbus is awesome. Out of my price range... but awesome.
I wonder if they're going to make sitting Orks for the back of the truck-bed version. LOL
I'd only play it as the bus, though... because everyone knows that Orks are the window-lickers of the "sci-fi" universe!
It seems human to me... If it is orky (or even the basis for and orky conversion) I hope it comes with an open cockpit, because their pilots are awesome.
Thanks for the review! I didn't watch the entire video as I have to leave the house in a second but I take it that everything turned out good? From what I could see there were very few casting issues, nice to see that they have picked up their game once more.
Commander Cain wrote: Thanks for the review! I didn't watch the entire video as I have to leave the house in a second but I take it that everything turned out good? From what I could see there were very few casting issues, nice to see that they have picked up their game once more.
Cant wait to see you 40K'ify those guys!
Yes, everything was well cast. There were very few casting defects among all those pieces. And none that ruined a whole piece. Compared to my last orders with PW this order is vastly improved.
Good to hear, SickSix. Now if they can show some consistancy in this, I might even dig my last order out of wherever it got thrown, and maybe even dare to order from them again. What was your turnaround time?
Commander Cain wrote: Thanks for the review! I didn't watch the entire video as I have to leave the house in a second but I take it that everything turned out good? From what I could see there were very few casting issues, nice to see that they have picked up their game once more.
Cant wait to see you 40K'ify those guys!
Yes, everything was well cast. There were very few casting defects among all those pieces. And none that ruined a whole piece. Compared to my last orders with PW this order is vastly improved.
Wish I could say the same about my order air bubbles miscasts they really dropped the ball on this one, probably the last order they will get from me as most of my money will be going on GS and liquid GS
Well to be fair after further examination most of the heads with air bubbles have been doubled up on my order, so seems that I grabbed a load of extra seconds rather than the better cast ones.
However there is still some miscast pieces on the Brick transporter underside ( which I can live with) and a miscast front on the crow which will need rebuilding, plus the green baron Squadron all the 3 of the plane bodies are riddled with little air bubbles and holes.
So still not too impressed with the quality which is a real shame as the models themselves are great.
Update took some pics and had a look through the rest of my order things did not go well I am afraid
The jetbike is a right off the front intake section is so thin it will just break if handled ( sun shines through it ) the back end right side has a lump missing from it and the other side has a large step.
The front of the heavy bike squads are pretty badly moulded (mould slip) but I was going to convert the fronts anyway so not too bothered, the only thing I don't get is that most of the heads they doubled up on are ok the ones that are really bad I only got the one set of
I will say though the beast hounds were pretty well cast except for the one head and toless foot in the bottom picture, also the dragonfly was well cast ( much to my surprise ) only few small defects that I would expect and easily fixed.
I just don't get why they won't step up there casting capabilities these models are pretty dam good, they are only let down by poor production issues.
Bloody hell, was the person who bagged these and sent them out drunk? Because that's the only reason anyone could think that's an acceptable level of quality.
Yodhrin wrote: Bloody hell, was the person who bagged these and sent them out drunk? Because that's the only reason anyone could think that's an acceptable level of quality.
I think it was a friday order LOL I wont tell you how they were packed
Yes rushed for sure I think they stood at one side of the room and threw the resin at the mould, if you look at the jet bike back end picture then there official picture don't see that massive chunk missing
You've done it to yourself LDD. Obviously they've seen your thread in P&M and want to see your handiwork in customizing the models. That way they can say they "helped" making a masterpiece.
I see Puppetswar QC is up to its usual standards. No way I will ever purchase from this company again, which is a shame as I like a lot of their sculpts, but the end products have been consistently crap.
Theophony wrote: You've done it to yourself LDD. Obviously they've seen your thread in P&M and want to see your handiwork in customizing the models. That way they can say they "helped" making a masterpiece.
LOL not sure if to take that as a compliment or criticism
Well believe it or not sent them a message with the break down of issues and picture to prove it and I got a reply on the same day this was their reply :
sorry to hear that.
we will send you all again.
Your package will be sent on Monday, today we do not work and by the end of the week we have holidays.
Sorry again
I hope that does not mean the same quality of products as before well at least there customer service has got better so its a start
Theophony wrote: You've done it to yourself LDD. Obviously they've seen your thread in P&M and want to see your handiwork in customizing the models. That way they can say they "helped" making a masterpiece.
LOL not sure if to take that as a compliment or criticism
Well believe it or not sent them a message with the break down of issues and picture to prove it and I got a reply on the same day this was their reply :
sorry to hear that.
we will send you all again.
Your package will be sent on Monday, today we do not work and by the end of the week we have holidays.
Sorry again
I hope that does not mean the same quality of products as before well at least there customer service has got better so its a start
Hopefully the quality of the replacements will be better. I had almost exactly the same experience (Same day reply, people on holiday), and when I got the replacement it was not much of an improvement.
I started thinking that it may be possible that my order received special attention. They know who I am and know that I put up video reviews of every order I get from them. It It's possible they made sure I got their best effort.
Like I said in my video, PW is a company I hate to love. I truly love a lot of their designs. But it is clear they cannot execute those designs with any consistent quality.
Thats what I don't understand they can produce a quality model only to let it down by producing substandard copies, instead of replacing orders invest some money in a better casting set up with quality control.
Squidbot wrote: Hopefully the quality of the replacements will be better. I had almost exactly the same experience (Same day reply, people on holiday), and when I got the replacement it was not much of an improvement.
At least they've got that part up to speed. Stopped ordering from them when it was a months+ long process to get a reply, let alone a replacement, for bad pieces. But such great sculpts!
Bummer about that casting quality shown last page... looks like they haven't improved and thus still are going to be a company I wait to order from until they get their casting sorted.
Same gak they they pulled when I ordered from them. A shame since they have some great designs, but they clearly don't give a feth unless they get pulled up on it. Looks like your order all came from the miscast bin, like mine seems to have had (and the guy before me, in their old thread, as well!)
Those new mechs look nice, but after reading all your horror stories I doubt I'd want to put the money down for one of these unless I get to see the parts prior to purchase.
There FB page has all sorts of interesting new designs too.
MagickalMemories wrote: The Dread could be an interesting Ad Mech proxy, but I'm not feeling the design, as far as SM go.
Eric
When I first saw it I thought with a little work it could stand in for the rogue trader era Colossus robot. The only question for me is where can I find a nice big dreadnought sized hammer?
My bike turned out alright. It isn't that their resin is crap, it's their quality control that's crap. I think it's basically a crap shoot if your stuff will turn out decent or not. All of mine did.
TheKbob wrote: So Puppets War uses crap resin? I've always considered ordering stuff from them, like their bikes. They look great!
The actual resin they use is good,
It's the casting that seems to be the problem with some people getting stuff that really should have been thrown out (miss cast/major mould slip/lots of bubbles etc),
It's really annoying as they can make great casts (I've had some of them myself) and the sculpting is really good too, it's just quality control that lets them down
TheKbob wrote: So Puppets War uses crap resin? I've always considered ordering stuff from them, like their bikes. They look great!
The actual resin they use is good,
It's the casting that seems to be the problem with some people getting stuff that really should have been thrown out (miss cast/major mould slip/lots of bubbles etc),
It's really annoying as they can make great casts (I've had some of them myself) and the sculpting is really good too, it's just quality control that lets them down
I know, my bricks were decent mold work, the turrets had slight bubble issues. Solid and good resin when set right, I could clobber a person with the Bricks APC as a emergency defense weapon, but it would wreck the paint job!
To be honest most of the stuff I had previously has been good or at least ok but a few minor issues, but my last order was really bad I don't know what was going on when they packed it.
Azazelx wrote: I wish I was surprised. Puppetswar should really contract every part of their business aside from design out to others like Maxmini or Kromlech...
Yup. Imagine how pleased everyone would be if you could get these amazing designs cast by Maxmini? I think they should consider it.
I've purchased from puppets war on several occasions and I didn't think there was anything wrong with the castings. Were there air bubbles?-Yes, but its always been relatively minimal. On average my experience has been on par with FW.
Maxmini I ordered a number of legs and out of the lot 2 legs had air bubbles that irreparably ruined significant detail.
Resin is a finicky material and no company will ever be completely free of its short comings.
aka_mythos wrote: I've purchased from puppets war on several occasions and I didn't think there was anything wrong with the castings. Were there air bubbles?-Yes, but its always been relatively minimal. On average my experience has been on par with FW.
Maxmini I ordered a number of legs and out of the lot 2 legs had air bubbles that irreparably ruined significant detail.
Resin is a finicky material and no company will ever be completely free of its short comings.
Well I can honestly say that every Maxmini order I have received have been free from casting issues, however yes a few air bubbles would be fine from Puppetswar but my last order was riddled with miscasts, air bubbles,loss of detail and warped casts.
Now honestly do you think that is acceptable not one out of several items I ordered was free from any of these issues.
Now I have defended Puppetswar in the past as most of my earlier orders were pretty good (for a small company) however after reading several bad reports it did start to concern me but I went ahead with my order with optimism.
Once my order turned up I realized how justified these complaints were, I don't think people are complaining for the sake of complaining but rather asking them to raise their casting operation to reflect the quality of their designs.
aka_mythos wrote: You've had your experience and I have had mine. It is what it is. I'm not defending or endorsing, just giving my account.
Totally agree my point being was like you my earlier orders quality was of a good standard, it was just a shame that my last order was so bad and I can see why others have complained.
It does seem to be a hit and miss game as others have mentioned receiving some quality castings, I guess I was just extremely unlucky.
Automatically Appended Next Post: OK another update ( positive one I am hoping ) got a reply to my email concerning the replacement parts, from Artur himself ( Puppetswar owner ).
He apologised for the treatment I have received as in the poor castings and the fact that the replacements had not been dispatched as promised, however he has made sure they were of quality and dispatched them today ( including tracking number) along with a list of freebies as an apology.
He was upfront and honest about the fact the replacements had not been sent out as promised and apologised for his staffs oversight, now being honest goes a long way with me so I was happy to be told the truth from square one.
On top of this the mentioned freebies seemed generous even for an apology so happy with that, but the other thing which may be of interest to you all was that Artur said they have been working on a new casting system to improve casting so hopefully we will be seeing some improvement in this area.
Update time replacements turned up and have to say considerably much better, no distortion a few minor air bubbles and a couple of mould steps but nothing to write home about and no worse than some other major manufacturers.
So over all much happier and if they keep to this quality I am sure most people will be impressed with their castings, I would take some pics but since coming back from holiday can't find the camera but once I do I will.
So Fingers crossed that there is brighter future ahead for Puppetswar plus the freebies was nice little haul as well
If I ever ordered from them again, I'd be sure to blog every step of the process - both here and on my external blog - and I'd make sure that PW were aware of it as well.
I imagine that would help my order arrive in a reasonable timeframe, and possibly even good castings.
I love the look of these walkers, makes me wan't to get three and start a small Space Marine force i can only imagine how good three of those would look with the cockpit option and pair of their "AT Cannons" mounted on their shoulders, representing a twin- linked las-cannon, and somehow get a heavy flamer on there Then of course there is the option to magnetize them and use them as ironclads as well when I feel like it... Dammit, I have enough to do already, I did not need this now!
On the point on the quality control of Puppetswar's products: I can only hope it gets better considering other peoples experiences, because I also plan on getting at least three Taurus Exterminator APCs, three groups of the human infantry and that group of "fire demons", and then use it all as the start of my Imperial Guard force...
Alpharius wrote: If only Puppets War would up their game in terms of Quality Control, Shipping, Customer Service and Communication...
You keep saying this. Have you had a bad experience? I haven't had any issues. Heck I failed to check all the parts from a gift order my girlfriend gave me for X-Mas, when I found missing parts 3 months later I emailed them and they asked when the order was. I gave them the rough time she ordered and the mailing address and they sent me the missing pieces along with a load of extra free stuff Immediately. The missing parts were a couple wrong legs from the barghiest fiends. Heck they even sent me another pack of fiends.
Besides that hiccup, the quality wasn't perfect (few air bubbles) but in my experience with chapterhouse and many other alternative parts makers, they were no worse then the competition. They definitely beat failcast. They use a quality resin as well. I wouldn't recommend them to intro hobbiests, but then again I would never recommend resin to newbies anyway.
Man I've got a couple hundred dollars worth of their stuff I really WANT, but I've seen far too much bad casts to place the order. Plus the price just really isn't showing me the value if there's still a lot of work needing to be done on them. If they had a presence here and I could be assured of the casts it would be a different matter entirely. My hobby budget is small, but I just sold off an army and really considering building an army around their samurai powered armor guys, shredders and the new walkers.
Alpharius wrote: If only Puppets War would up their game in terms of Quality Control, Shipping, Customer Service and Communication...
You keep saying this. Have you had a bad experience? I haven't had any issues. Heck I failed to check all the parts from a gift order my girlfriend gave me for X-Mas, when I found missing parts 3 months later I emailed them and they asked when the order was. I gave them the rough time she ordered and the mailing address and they sent me the missing pieces along with a load of extra free stuff Immediately. The missing parts were a couple wrong legs from the barghiest fiends. Heck they even sent me another pack of fiends.
Besides that hiccup, the quality wasn't perfect (few air bubbles) but in my experience with chapterhouse and many other alternative parts makers, they were no worse then the competition. They definitely beat failcast. They use a quality resin as well. I wouldn't recommend them to intro hobbiests, but then again I would never recommend resin to newbies anyway.
That took 2 months to get to me at a time when their despatch times were listed as about 5 days. After I complained very loudly and publically, they sent me replacements. I started going through the replacement stuff, and when I saw some was also miscast, I never bothered to check the rest of it and boxed it all away in disgust. All of the stuff is still sitting in a plastic tub, unused over a year later.
Anyone got a link to the old Puppetswar thread? There was another guy with an experience just as bad as mine (and pics to prove it).
Automatically Appended Next Post: It's probably also worth pointing out that I think their sculpts are lovely - some of the best not-marine and not-necron bits in the business. If I felt I could trust them for quality, despatch and communications, I'd be placing an order at least once a month.
It's probably also worth pointing out that I think their sculpts are lovely - some of the best not-marine and not-necron bits in the business. If I felt I could trust them for quality, despatch and communications, I'd be placing an order at least once a month.
Agreed. There are quite a lot of things I would love to get from them, but the evidence shown thus far regarding their casting quality keeps me away.
I mean, just look at the dude on the right in this pic:
Spoiler:
I would love to do a whole army of winged hussars.
But, look at the bright side: they're not Defiance Games, so they still might get better.
Also. For anyone wanting to contact these guys I highly recommend PM'ing them through facebook rather than email. I sent them a very sincere email asking them to join the forums again and address issues like their long shipping times and casting problems and it took over a month before I received a very noncommittal reply unlike the 10 minute wait I had until they went on FB!
They probably stopped posting after it became apparent they'd be called on all their quality issues. It's a shame, though... the best way to deal with it would be to face / address it head-on.
If they'd have pulled their heads out of the dark place and dealt with this stuff properly, I'd probably have spent thousands of dollars without any exaggeration on their stuff by now.
things did not go well I am afraid 
this was their reply :
I don't know what was going on when they packed it.
