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Post by: 40k-noob
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/minibox/the-mini-box-simple-storage-solution
A model storage solution that is both sturdy and cost effective. You'll be able to transport or store 160 infantry models for just $30.
My Name is Robert, my business partner (Eric) and I have scoured hobby shops and online retailers looking for affordable Mini storage or transport cases for our miniatures. We always end up taking our last army out of foam and putting it into a pile to transport our new army. We got very tired of damaging our well painted models and decided to address this issue.
What we have designed is a storage case for miniatures. It is not complicated or fancy but will keep your models safe while at home or on the road. A sturdy cardboard construction that is designed to hold the weight of a small human but light weight and compact enough to work as an at home storage solution. We are packing these boxes with enough foam to hold 160 models . The original foam will be 1" Infantry foam and is designed to fit into most standard sized cases.
Our retail price on these boxes will be $30 making them cheaper than most of its competitors. We are accomplishing this by doing the designs ourselves and purchasing the boxes and foam in bulk.
We are sick of overpaying for foam and we hope that you all approve of our solution.
BOX DESCRIPTION
Box Dimensions -14.5" x 11" x 5.5"
Infantry Foam Dimensions 14" x 10.5" x 1.25"
Infantry Foam Sheets are organized in 4 rows of 10 slots
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Post by: toxicluv
Backed!!!
I think this is a fantastic idea and I really hope this gets off the ground. Ive always felt that carrying cases were incredibly over priced.
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Post by: Knighty
your kickstarter needs more information and pictures, don't rely on the video as a lot of people won't/can't watch it
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Post by: UNCLEBADTOUCH
Wow those dimensions and the idea are almost exactly identical to the already existing card cases from kr-multicase. It's almost like they have exactly copied someone else's product, such innovation.
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Post by: Theophony
I'd like to see a pic of the foam and its cut outs for straightness and professionalism. I just rest asked a box that looks identical to that for minis, and got my hands on a bunch of good foam for it, all free, but if this looks better than I might jump on it for my KOW troops.
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Post by: RiTides
Their motto is:
Make Money
Have Fun
Do Good
Lol, not sure what I think of that  . Seems a little random. Who is making money, us or them  . I'm confused...
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Post by: Manchu
UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:Wow those dimensions and the idea are almost exactly identical to the already existing card cases from kr-multicase. It's almost like they have exactly copied someone else's product, such innovation.
KR is a good product. I own two cases for X-Wing. But one 51mm thick tray with 40 infantry slots costs nearly 15 USD. So that's 60 USD before the box to put them in. This is $30 with the box.
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Post by: SilentBob367
Backed for $100.
All the cases out there are just so expensive!!! I want something cheap for bulk storage. I'm not looking for a beauty contest winner. I just want something to throw in my closet.
Really hope this goes over well. It seems simple enough to go over well, while at the same time filling a specific need within the hobby.
Good luck!!!
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Post by: Rtpminis
My name is Robert and i am more than happy to defend myself.
Yes our dimensions are very similiar to many other cases, gw, kr, and many others, I own several of both of those brands and i am never going to put down there product. The trueth is i just got tired of overpaying for my cases and i wanted to find a cheep alternative that i could especially use at home. When the best solution cost $45 for a box with some foam i was floored so i did a little research and decided to make my own.
We include our motto because I wanted everyone to see the way our company does business. It is important to me to be as transparent as possible and i am always reachable on facebook or by email at robert@exemplarimports.com
We will have photos and our first sample in the next few weeks and we will be posting tons of photos once we have them in hand.
I hope this sates any questions and i want to thank all the backers who have been so generous up to this point.
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Post by: 40k-noob
Personally I backed this project for 225 since I have met the Project Owner and have actually played 40k games against him in tourneys.
I posted this here to help get his project out there among the community.
Is he competing against existing similar products? Sure, there is not many things out there that are 100% new ideas.
160 space marines, IG, orks etc in sturdy box for $30, yeah I would buy that box to protect all those models.
hopefully you guys will too, so that this gets funded and I actually get my boxes!! LOL
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Post by: Manchu
I would suggest a redesign of the box graphics. Keep it simple and professional. Just a logo would be fine.
That said, the basic idea here does not need to be novel. All that I really care about is price, quality, and delivery.
So far, it seems like we only have info on price. And the price is great so I'm in on the early bird.
I'll be looking for further info on what kind of quality we get at this price and RTP's plans to deliver.
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Post by: snaggled
In like Flynn. Kudos to you for this. Ignore the haters Robert, Dakka is one big boiling pot of nerdrage these days.
Please keep in mind Rule Number One here is Be Polite. Thanks ~ Manchu
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Post by: Rtpminis
Thank you for your support,,, i will be keeping everyone informed as we get more information ourselves and smooth out the details... The box design is meant to be simple yet flashy so it does not sit on a retailers shelf with no attention.
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Post by: RiTides
Well I am tempted to snag an early bird... but, reading the page a little more closely, you're saying these will be made in China and delivered in April. You acknowledge Chinese New Year... but I just don't see that happening at all.
I would love to buy these if they were available and I think it's great that folks are kickstarting it... but I have done my fair share in that department on other projects  . Still, will be watching this as I'd be very likely to buy a few of these at full retail price once they were available.
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Post by: Manchu
Rtpminis wrote:The box design is meant to be simple yet flashy so it does not sit on a retailers shelf with no attention.
Good point. Maybe you just need a more striking logo design. Something like Rockstar's logo:
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Post by: Rtpminis
This doesnt fit the bill?
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Post by: Manchu
Can't see it. Could you use the [img] tags to post it?
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Post by: Rtpminis
I fixed it
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I would love to buy these if they were available and I think it's great that folks are kickstarting it... but I have done my fair share in that department on other projects . Still, will be watching this as I'd be very likely to buy a few of these at full retail price once they were available.
Thank you for your interest i understand your concern but so far everything looks promising. April delivery still looks very good.
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Post by: Manchu
Looks okay to me, maybe a bit "drawn out" so to speak, but otherwise nice and striking. I would rather see that on the box then the heraldric eagles you currently have. Anyway, it won't keep make me withdraw my pledge or anything I just think it would get more people interested if it looked more professional.
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Post by: Rtpminis
Manchu - we are hoping if we keep funding at our current rate we will release other box designs for xenos and imperial that will be much more elaborate. but i dont plan on going smaller anytime soon.
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Post by: Manchu
Like I said, what I really care about is quality, price, and delivery. If the quality is good and the delivery seems reasonable, I don't mind if it says "I love GW" on the box at that price.
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Post by: nkelsch
You can already buy tab-folding mailers for obscenely cheap in bulk.
Then it just becomes about filling with foam.
I don't find those prices very cheap. Just seems like a slight undercut to make themselves relevant.
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Post by: Manchu
The price decrease is pretty relevant. I don't want to buy mailers in bulk. I want a couple of cardboard boxes of foam to store minis in my closet/take them to a friend's house.
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Post by: bubber
Backed for $160 - can finally sort out my collection!
Well in April anyway.
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Post by: Manchu
Spring cleaning!
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Post by: bubber
Indeed!
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Post by: MrMoustaffa
Are these going to be pluck foam or purpose made miniatures foam?
Reason I ask is because I have a lot of Flames of War minis and I need something to put them in.
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Post by: Rtpminis
currently they are precut for 22mm infantry. are you looking for something different from that?
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Post by: Manchu
Why 22mm infantry?
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Post by: Slinky
In for 2 
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Post by: Rtpminis
22mm is standard for 40k and fantasy as well as many other game systems
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Post by: gohkm
Shouldn't that be 28 to 32mm? 22mm seems a tad small. Although, I suppose, that depends on how you're measuring it.
I've got a lot of the non-standard scales (like Rackham and Ilyad), so this solution may not be for me.
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Post by: Rtpminis
22mm infantry is a standard model size for 4ok and WHFB as well as many other game systems. 22mm is the base size of the models. not the cut out
Also a huge thank you for those who have taken the time to check out our project and back us. Please share us on your gaming group pages and with your friends, all the support we can get is appreciated.
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Post by: Manchu
You mean ... 28mm?
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Post by: gohkm
Wait, now I'm really confused. Perhaps a pic or two to illustrate what you mean, Rtpminis?
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Post by: Rtpminis
i swear they measure at 22mm i had a caliper out the other day and checked... yah maybe 28mm i can be dumb some times  Automatically Appended Next Post: gohkm wrote:Wait, now I'm really confused. Perhaps a pic or two to illustrate what you mean, Rtpminis?
Basic standard gw precut foam is almost exactly the same size
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Post by: Manchu
Well, 28mm is the scale. But I think a guardsman on a base comes out around 30mm and a SM taller than that.
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Post by: rigeld2
Rob is talking about the width of the base. You're talking about the height of the minis.
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Post by: Rtpminis
either way i am probrably the one who is wrong.
We have a facebook group now please come join us on it. https://www.facebook.com/groups/606242626113581/
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Post by: Manchu
Wait are you talking about the width of the base or the height of the miniature on the base?
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Post by: bubber
Maybe he means the width of each hole?
The foam is 14" x 10" which is about 356mm x 254mm.
If each divider is about 7mm the each hole = 55mm x 28mm.
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If the foam dividers are 10mm then the hole size = 51mm x 25mm which seems about right.
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Post by: Manchu
I'm sure he'll clarify ITT.
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Post by: pretre
Backed for one for now.
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Post by: Rtpminis
Ok, the holes are 1" x 1" x 2" and are meant for 28mm scale minis.
I apologize for any confusion i was trying to post from my phone and was not thinking.
Our stretch goals are to release some larger foam sizes and possible some for other game systems. I am always open for suggestions.
Regards
- Robert
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Post by: Manchu
Nah, the confusion was all me. Thanks for straightening me out!
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Post by: Dais
So the trays are only meant to hold infantry models? It looks nice enough but does not solve my storage problems with cavalry and warbeasts. The stretch goal is also oddly specific and kind of a wasted opportunity to include other tray sizes. I've been looking a storage and transport solution for a while now but this one doesn't seem to be for me.
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Post by: Rtpminis
 Dais wrote:So the trays are only meant to hold infantry models? It looks nice enough but does not solve my storage problems with cavalry and warbeasts. The stretch goal is also oddly specific and kind of a wasted opportunity to include other tray sizes. I've been looking a storage and transport solution for a while now but this one doesn't seem to be for me.
what are you looking for, obvously i dont expect to make everyone happy but new ideas are welcome.
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Post by: bubber
I would like to add:
Please can people stop posting new Kickstarters as my bank account is taking a real kicking!
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Post by: MrMoustaffa
I just need Flames of War foam for infantry teams, gun teams, and tanks.
I haven't bought foam for them yet so I'm not really sure what the standard measurements needed for the models would be.
I've got tons of foam for 28mm infantry so while it sounds like a cool idea I don't really need them at the moment. Like I said, that will change if I can put FoW minis in tjem
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Post by: Brother SRM
This seems like the KR system for card cases and foam trays, but they already have a very similar product with a ton of options available. I wish these folks the best, but I'm really curious what they can offer that KR can't.
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Post by: Manchu
Much lower prices?
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Post by: Rtpminis
Brother - Manchu is correct we are just trying to make it cheeper but keep quality high, our ideas arnt original or fancy we just think that foam cases and insert costs are getting crazy
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Post by: carlos13th
I would have considered it but once you factor in shipping to the UK a KR case works out cheaper.
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Post by: Eldarain
 carlos13th wrote:I would have considered it but once you factor in shipping to the UK a KR case works out cheaper.
Some of the early birds waive the international fee.
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Post by: bubber
I'm in for 6 cases for $160 inc postage.
Today's rate means this = £97 so £16.67 per case.
I've found a site that sells the standard 4 tray KR case for £22.50 - there might be cheaper sites but my google-fu is weak as it's late & I'm sleepy.
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Post by: Platuan4th
I'm in for 2. I've got a ton of Infantry just lying around, they need a home.
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Post by: Rtpminis
Thank you for your support patuan and everyone else who has backed us. it is humbling to have this project almost funded in 4 days
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Post by: Dais
Rtpminis wrote: Dais wrote:So the trays are only meant to hold infantry models? It looks nice enough but does not solve my storage problems with cavalry and warbeasts. The stretch goal is also oddly specific and kind of a wasted opportunity to include other tray sizes. I've been looking a storage and transport solution for a while now but this one doesn't seem to be for me.
what are you looking for, obvously i dont expect to make everyone happy but new ideas are welcome.
My armies are more diverse in size. My current smallest army (Legion of Everblight) has about 50 infantry-sized models including several taller models with long swords, spears, and banners. Sure, it is open to expansion but 160 infantry is way out of the scope of even the largest collection I could imagine myself buying. That same army has about 25 medium-large models ranging from ogres, to cavalry, to infantry with poses or capes that make them oversized. I also need room for a dozen or so heavy warbeasts, whic take up a lot of space. Any legion player will tell you about how irritating it is trying to find a tray for Thagrosh 2, an angelius or two, a seraph, and a sorceress on hellion. These models need at least four inches of foam to stand up in and have wings that take up lots of area in a tray regardless of how they are oriented. Battlefoam has custom cut trays for those models but we both know that is an expensive option -and it offers little room for expansion. Then there are my other armies.
So what do I need? Good, sturdy boxes that have many foam tray options.
I won't get into gargantuans, colossals, and other superheavy models here since that seems to be beyond the scope of the box itself.
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Post by: Rtpminis
Thank you for your response that sounds like a hassle to be able to pack. so here are our expansion goals and we can see if that helps fill your needs more if not i understand.
- Tank foam - this will despite my best efforts probably be a 4" pick and pull sheet that you could easily use for some of those larger models you spoke about. this would still allow for a a single infantry sheet on top for magnetized pieces or your 25 troops
- Bike / Calvary - this will actually be 2 different sizes the bike foam will be 2" tall with cut outs measuring 2.5"x1.25" to allow room for different bike types and the cavalry will be 3" tall with the same cut outs. you will be able to mix and match these throughout the boxes once the goals are hit. the bike foam is perfect for laying down banner carriers and other odd shapped models and i believe the cavalry foam will fit your cavalry models. I hope this helps.
Allot of this info in this post has not been finalized that is why it is not on the site, but i am more than happy to share my current plans.
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Post by: tyrant of loserville
Grabbed the 4x plus a shirt, need something to hold the $1k of DZ stuff and $? (can't remember) of DFG... 
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Post by: Bolognesus
Look, if you're making a box holding 5" of foam and your smallest tray is bigger than 1", *please* don't make a 4", but a 5" tray (I need one or two of those, entirely coincidentally ). Just a "big models only" storage box.
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Post by: Rtpminis
I can def add that to the list. Automatically Appended Next Post: Have yall seen the objective marker designs I added to facebook,
Also another link to the facebook group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/606242626113581/
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Post by: Bolognesus
Good to know, I'll be getting at least one of those
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Post by: namadio
Why not stick with an already "standard" tray size? Am I missing something here? Wish everyone used gw size...
Mini box 14" x 10.5"
Gw 14.25" x 10.25"
Sabol 13" x 7.75"
Battlefoam 15.5" x 12"
Kr 15" x 10"
Why everyone gotta be different and difficult......?
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Post by: rigeld2
Robert said that his case would fit the GW trays though.
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Post by: skarsol
Cause you make more money from foam so locking people in with your case is good business.
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Post by: namadio
Yeah the box is slightly larger than gw dimension but if I got gw trays from a plastic case why would I wanna put in a card box. Need cheaper gw trays for my plastic cases!!
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Also who the f@&$ needs more objective markers, stretch goals moar foam onry.
Second also, checked out their website and their ebay store. Their ebay feedback is pretty gakky with biggest complaint being poor packaging of the minis for shipment. That's always reassuring from someone who is making mini packaging . Pretty tough to screw up rectangular holes in foam I hope. I pledged for two cases. Can't beat the price I've tried all the other foam companies might as well give this a shot too.
One comment if trays aren't finalized, the slightly more rigid bottom layer on sabol and battlefoam trays makes a much more rigid tray that I've found are less prone to accidentally flopping models out when moving trays.
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Post by: Joyboozer
I think I might be having a stroke as for some reason the options are hard to understand.
A double set is a pledge for two boxes?
A 4 pack is 4 boxes?
Y'all is us?
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Post by: rigeld2
Yes.
Yes.
Y'all is "you all" so depending on context... :-)
Robert is a definite Texan (in case you couldn't tell from the video)
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Post by: Joyboozer
Was one of the yes answers to indicate I am having a stroke?
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Post by: Manchu
I'll take that one. You're fine, go operate some heavy machinery.
I also second options that would make trays more rigid as they are easier to deal with.
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Post by: Sparkadia
I've never kickstarted before, but this seems intriguing, as long as the shipping rates aren't as awful as most things to Aus.
I've been looking mostly for vehicle transport, though. Will that be a thing you'll do in the future? I'm talking Trukks, Rhinos, Battlewagons, Flyers. That sort of thing.
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Post by: Joyboozer
I had the double box early bird for $60 but then realised for only $40 more I could get 4 boxes and a shirt.
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Post by: rigeld2
No - you asked 3 questions, I gave 3 answers and some additional info... Wasn't trying to imply you were at all strokey.
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Post by: Joyboozer
Manchu wrote:I'll take that one. You're fine, go operate some heavy machinery.
I also second options that would make trays more rigid as they are easier to deal with.
rigeld2 wrote:
No - you asked 3 questions, I gave 3 answers and some additional info... Wasn't trying to imply you were at all strokey.
Damn I was hoping to be declared medically unfit for work!
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Post by: vic
in for 2 boxes with free int. shipping.
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Post by: Rtpminis
namadio - our foam is actually slightly bigger than gw foam, i currently use a gw case to travel to tournaments so when i designed the foam i wanted foam that would actually fit snug in a gw case. also 170 positive and 5 negative seeming we had never shipped a thing in our life when we started selling on ebay i think we have done pretty well.
Manchu- dually noted about foam rigidity i will look into this.
One other thing. I have to admit the objective markers are because i want them and because no one makes metal ones so if you dont want them dont add to your order. it will only take a few days until foam starts releasing again.
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Post by: Manchu
Robert, do you think you guys will have foam samples to show before the end of the KS?
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Post by: Rtpminis
Yes we should have photos by Friday and a hands on video a week after that.
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Post by: Manchu
Awesome! This is shaping up nicely!
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Post by: pretre
Yeah, I keep waffling but may go in for more. Do you think there will be the ability to add more through a survey as well?
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Post by: richred_uk
 bubber wrote:I'm in for 6 cases for $160 inc postage.
Today's rate means this = £97 so £16.67 per case.
I've found a site that sells the standard 4 tray KR case for £22.50 - there might be cheaper sites but my google-fu is weak as it's late & I'm sleepy.
Remember to account for the VAT and possibly import duty you will be liable for on import to the UK, unless RTP have arranged an EU Distributor to fill the orders.
That £97 will cost you an extra £19.40 in VAT and £8 Post Office handling charge making it £124.40 for 6 cases (£20.73 each). You will probably have import duty waived as £97 is below the limit for where import duty is charged, but if you increased your pledge you may fall foul of that too (the limit is £135 but I'm not certain whether that's before or after VAT is added).
HMRC Site
Royal Mail Site
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Post by: Rtpminis
this is something i am really hoping to work out...
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Post by: bubber
richred_uk wrote: bubber wrote:I'm in for 6 cases for $160 inc postage.
Today's rate means this = £97 so £16.67 per case.
I've found a site that sells the standard 4 tray KR case for £22.50 - there might be cheaper sites but my google-fu is weak as it's late & I'm sleepy.
Remember to account for the VAT and possibly import duty you will be liable for on import to the UK, unless RTP have arranged an EU Distributor to fill the orders.
That £97 will cost you an extra £19.40 in VAT and £8 Post Office handling charge making it £124.40 for 6 cases (£20.73 each). You will probably have import duty waived as £97 is below the limit for where import duty is charged, but if you increased your pledge you may fall foul of that too (the limit is £135 but I'm not certain whether that's before or after VAT is added).
HMRC Site
Royal Mail Site
Bugger - forgot about all of that :( - never mind still need the boxes & still cheaper then the UK alternatives.
Thanks for doing the maths for me.
When do I pay the VAT & who to?
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Post by: richred_uk
bubber wrote:richred_uk wrote: bubber wrote:I'm in for 6 cases for $160 inc postage.
Today's rate means this = £97 so £16.67 per case.
I've found a site that sells the standard 4 tray KR case for £22.50 - there might be cheaper sites but my google-fu is weak as it's late & I'm sleepy.
Remember to account for the VAT and possibly import duty you will be liable for on import to the UK, unless RTP have arranged an EU Distributor to fill the orders.
That £97 will cost you an extra £19.40 in VAT and £8 Post Office handling charge making it £124.40 for 6 cases (£20.73 each). You will probably have import duty waived as £97 is below the limit for where import duty is charged, but if you increased your pledge you may fall foul of that too (the limit is £135 but I'm not certain whether that's before or after VAT is added).
HMRC Site
Royal Mail Site
Bugger - forgot about all of that :( - never mind still need the boxes & still cheaper then the UK alternatives.
Thanks for doing the maths for me.
When do I pay the VAT & who to?
Usually the carrier (post office, ups, FedEx etc) will clear it through customs and send you a card with details and you pay the carrier before the goods are released to you. Couple of days delay maybe? If it's the post office you just take the card and payment to the depot holding the goods.
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Post by: bubber
Cheers Richred. Great info.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
And if you're lucky customs will miss it entirely and the stuff will just show up without any fees to pay (although bigger boxes are more likely to be inspected and charged)
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Post by: richred_uk
Yeah I'm thinking you'd be pretty lucky to get 6 figure cases in one package slipping past customs. But you win smuggler' s jackpot if you do
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Post by: Joyboozer
richred_uk wrote:Yeah I'm thinking you'd be pretty lucky to get 6 figure cases in one package slipping past customs. But you win smuggler' s jackpot if you do
You might confuse them when they open it to find packing materials protecting...nothing! The perfect plan.
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Post by: Rtpminis
Just to try and save yall the hassle does anyone know a distribution center in the uk that works with kickstarter projects?
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Post by: Bolognesus
...Battlefoam distributes for CMoN. (guessing that's a non-starter for you, though )
Also, it seems Mantic will distribute some stuff for Secret Weapon. I think they have something of a deal with BF though?
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Amazon has also been used to 'dropship' for KS fulfilment for some boardgames
http://www.stonemaiergames.com/how-to-provide-free-shipping-worldwide-on-kickstarter-a-comprehensive-guide/
but then I know other projects have tried to use them unsuccessfully so there's probably more to it than whats in the article
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Post by: Rtpminis
awesome i have been looking into this for the last few hours i will keep yall posted. Thank you for your help and support. Over 2000 has been pledged through Dakka Dakka alone.
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Post by: crazyfoxdemon
I'll be perfectly honest, I have no need for infantry foam since I have all I need of that right now. On the other hand, I do need Tank Foam something fierce, so if that stretch goal is reached, I'll definately pick up up 3. Or even if just the bike foam stretch goal is reached, I'll probably pick up one.
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Sorry about this, I am rooting for you, just... I don't need infantry foam. Heck, I already have more of that then I need atm
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Here are those photos from the last update
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there is definatly more work to be done... the box will be widened another .25 of an inch to make some room for fingers and to make sure the foam is not jammed in there. other than that i am happy with the design look of the box i am very interested to get it in my hands and see if it is sturdy enough for our needs.
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I am not trying to needlessly bump this. but i wanted to let evryone know that we just unlocked the first foam stretch goal. Tank foam should be unlocked in the next few days . and thank you everyone for the support!
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Post by: 40k-noob
Nice!!
Cant wait to receive these!!
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Post by: RiTides
Rtpminis wrote:there is definatly more work to be done... the box will be widened another .25 of an inch to make some room for fingers and to make sure the foam is not jammed in there. other than that i am happy with the design look of the box i am very interested to get it in my hands and see if it is sturdy enough for our needs.
That pic is a little concerning, it definitely needs to be a bit wider!
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Post by: Rtpminis
I will take some more photos for you no problem
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Post by: RiTides
Well I did not actually ask for photos . But, if you mean after you get a wider prototype, that would be good to show, since this one looks too tight (as you pointed out, of course!).
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Post by: Rtpminis
I totally miss read that
This is still up for debate. the reason it looks jammed in there is because that particular piece of foam was miss cut. something i am going to cause a fuss with the manufacturer about.
A few of the pledges who have seen the box agree that they would not widen the box. it may still happen but we will see.
I will not have another sample until probably after the kickstarter is finished do to the Chinese new year.
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Post by: Warsmith262
May have to back this... just started working on my orks so im looking for affordable storage... and your from the houston area and i like supporting my hometown peeps
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May have to back this... just started working on my orks so im looking for affordable storage... and your from the houston area and i like supporting my hometown peeps
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Post by: Lobokai
Backed... great idea
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Post by: Rtpminis
Thank y'all for your support. warsmith your from Houston? do you ever come out to any of the tournaments in the area?
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Post by: namadio
I increased my pledge to for boxes with cavalry foam unlocked. Hopefully we can get some tank foam unlocked and I'll pledge for a few more! Still trying to find someone to split a ten pack with me in southern Indiana area =D
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Post by: Rtpminis
7 days left and we are quickly approaching the tank foam stretch goal. I want to thank everyone who has contributed to this project.
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Post by: namadio
$17,628 pledged of $7,500 goal.
Tank foam unlocked!!!
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Post by: lord marcus
40k-noob wrote:http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/minibox/the-mini-box-simple-storage-solution
A model storage solution that is both sturdy and cost effective. You'll be able to transport or store 160 infantry models for just $30.
My Name is Robert, my business partner (Eric) and I have scoured hobby shops and online retailers looking for affordable Mini storage or transport cases for our miniatures. We always end up taking our last army out of foam and putting it into a pile to transport our new army. We got very tired of damaging our well painted models and decided to address this issue.
What we have designed is a storage case for miniatures. It is not complicated or fancy but will keep your models safe while at home or on the road. A sturdy cardboard construction that is designed to hold the weight of a small human but light weight and compact enough to work as an at home storage solution. We are packing these boxes with enough foam to hold 160 models . The original foam will be 1" Infantry foam and is designed to fit into most standard sized cases.
Our retail price on these boxes will be $30 making them cheaper than most of its competitors. We are accomplishing this by doing the designs ourselves and purchasing the boxes and foam in bulk.
We are sick of overpaying for foam and we hope that you all approve of our solution.
BOX DESCRIPTION
Box Dimensions -14.5" x 11" x 5.5"
Infantry Foam Dimensions 14" x 10.5" x 1.25"
Infantry Foam Sheets are organized in 4 rows of 10 slots
The APC by portable warfare store 70 regular infantry and is 15 bucks USD, Tell me why instead i should back your product?
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Post by: schmoozies
By their count their foam will store 160 basic infantry for $30.00 USD. So for the same price as two foams from Portable Warfare your getting and extra 20 figs of Storage. Not a huge difference but it is still more storage
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Post by: Warsmith262
Rtpminis wrote:Thank y'all for your support. warsmith your from Houston? do you ever come out to any of the tournaments in the area?
I wish... I used to live in Houston but havent in almost 7 Years.. I still love supporting Houstonians in their endeavours.. maybe ill be able to talk my wife into moving there in a few years.. there or Austin.
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Post by: lord marcus
 schmoozies wrote:By their count their foam will store 160 basic infantry for $30.00 USD. So for the same price as two foams from Portable Warfare your getting and extra 20 figs of Storage. Not a huge difference but it is still more storage
Right, 20 models. but this is my point. if it is only 20 models, why not spend an extra 15 and get a full 70 extra? The other thing is how thick is the box itself. The APC is durable, and the one I purchased as a test has held up well. I'm wondering if the quality of the box will be equal too or better?
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Post by: rigeld2
RTPs foam is ~19 cents a figure.
Portable Warfare's is ~21 cents a figure.
Size of the boxes is different. I can't speak to durability, although the sample RTP showed looked durable.
I haven't backed because I don't need/want infantry foam - too many MCs. Now that the tank foam is unlocked though I'll take another look.
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Post by: Rayvon
I backed this one, I had horrible experiences with KR and I have been looking for a decent priced alternative !
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Post by: Buckybits
Horrible experiences with KR? Would you mind elaborating? I was actually just looking at their cases...
-John
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Post by: gohkm
I'd like to know what went wrong with your KR?
I've had mine for 4 years now, and it has never failed me. I've dropped it from a height, the case has stayed intact, nothing inside was broken. And now my son likes to push and kick it around, and I've got models inside, nothing's broken.
Their customer service has been fantastic, too.
I should append that I've got one of the small aluminium cases.
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Post by: orkybenji
I use KR, but I need more storage and I think this is it. I guess I'll back it.
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Post by: NewTruthNeomaxim
I now play 'Nids, and my wife plays Orks....
...aka, i'm in for four boxes. :-p
*goes back to painting 80+ Termagants...*
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Post by: Rtpminis
Thanks to everyone for your support, this project has been a success beyond my wildest dreams. I have been able to pull almost all of the production back to the united states and have gotten to start a business with my hobby. I promise this will will not be the last cool project we work on together.
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Post by: Pause Game
In for the four pack, and attempting to add 2 trays of bike foam
How does one apply the bike foam to the total?
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Post by: Overlord Thraka
This looks interesting... Considering backing at the $35 level. How well does it work for model protruding off the bases? Or Termie Sized models?
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Post by: drazz
For termies, I think the bike sized foam should work.
You will pick the foam you want for each box (or total of each type of foam) with the pledge managers. Infantry foam is 1', bike foam is 2", tank foam is 3", box holds 4"; so 4 infantry foam, or 1 tank and 1 infantry or two bike, or two bike and 2 infantry.
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Post by: Makaleth
I think termies might not actually fit in this. The width is 1.25 per slot... and they would need 1.5 at least. I was hoping for something similar.
Still getting 10 at the moment, they are too good a price and the tank foam is great for storage options.
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Post by: Eldarain
 lord marcus wrote:40k-noob wrote:http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/minibox/the-mini-box-simple-storage-solution
A model storage solution that is both sturdy and cost effective. You'll be able to transport or store 160 infantry models for just $30.
My Name is Robert, my business partner (Eric) and I have scoured hobby shops and online retailers looking for affordable Mini storage or transport cases for our miniatures. We always end up taking our last army out of foam and putting it into a pile to transport our new army. We got very tired of damaging our well painted models and decided to address this issue.
What we have designed is a storage case for miniatures. It is not complicated or fancy but will keep your models safe while at home or on the road. A sturdy cardboard construction that is designed to hold the weight of a small human but light weight and compact enough to work as an at home storage solution. We are packing these boxes with enough foam to hold 160 models . The original foam will be 1" Infantry foam and is designed to fit into most standard sized cases.
Our retail price on these boxes will be $30 making them cheaper than most of its competitors. We are accomplishing this by doing the designs ourselves and purchasing the boxes and foam in bulk.
We are sick of overpaying for foam and we hope that you all approve of our solution.
BOX DESCRIPTION
Box Dimensions -14.5" x 11" x 5.5"
Infantry Foam Dimensions 14" x 10.5" x 1.25"
Infantry Foam Sheets are organized in 4 rows of 10 slots
The APC by portable warfare store 70 regular infantry and is 15 bucks USD, Tell me why instead i should back your product?
Because it holds 160 infantry figures for the same price as 140 figures from your example?
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Post by: 40k-noob
 Eldarain wrote: lord marcus wrote:40k-noob wrote:http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/minibox/the-mini-box-simple-storage-solution
A model storage solution that is both sturdy and cost effective. You'll be able to transport or store 160 infantry models for just $30.
My Name is Robert, my business partner (Eric) and I have scoured hobby shops and online retailers looking for affordable Mini storage or transport cases for our miniatures. We always end up taking our last army out of foam and putting it into a pile to transport our new army. We got very tired of damaging our well painted models and decided to address this issue.
What we have designed is a storage case for miniatures. It is not complicated or fancy but will keep your models safe while at home or on the road. A sturdy cardboard construction that is designed to hold the weight of a small human but light weight and compact enough to work as an at home storage solution. We are packing these boxes with enough foam to hold 160 models . The original foam will be 1" Infantry foam and is designed to fit into most standard sized cases.
Our retail price on these boxes will be $30 making them cheaper than most of its competitors. We are accomplishing this by doing the designs ourselves and purchasing the boxes and foam in bulk.
We are sick of overpaying for foam and we hope that you all approve of our solution.
BOX DESCRIPTION
Box Dimensions -14.5" x 11" x 5.5"
Infantry Foam Dimensions 14" x 10.5" x 1.25"
Infantry Foam Sheets are organized in 4 rows of 10 slots
The APC by portable warfare store 70 regular infantry and is 15 bucks USD, Tell me why instead i should back your product?
Because it holds 160 infantry figures for the same price as 140 figures from your example?
Not too mention you have options for bigger sized models in this case compare to APC which due to its height kind of leaves stuck with infantry or maybe cav/bikes on their side maybe?
Also 9 hours to go if you want in on this.
FYI
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Post by: orkybenji
Rtpminis wrote:Thanks to everyone for your support, this project has been a success beyond my wildest dreams. I have been able to pull almost all of the production back to the united states and have gotten to start a business with my hobby. I promise this will will not be the last cool project we work on together.
Hello I backed for 2 boxes. Will you still be selling these in the future in case we want more?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Went in with some friends for 10 boxes. I need more foam, and this seems like a good idea.
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Post by: pretre
Not trying to necro, but this is the most appropriate place to talk about it. It is July. Still waiting... I popped into the comments and there may be some drama associated with insufficient funds for something or another. "I am sorry yall i feel awful about this... I am having some major issues... the boxes are done... and at the facility but do to the money trouble i am going to have to pick them up in a few weeks... i understand yalls frusteration and i apologize over and over again... would yall support if i was to run a 10-15 day kickstarter for these same boxes to make up this diffrence and get the product shipped faster? This was my first project and i am sorry that the trust yall put in me has been let down. These boxes will ship if i have to pay every last penny of the amount of money lost out of my own pocket. but this project has already cost me around $3000 out of my own pocket and i havent even gotten the boxes in my hand yet. I am walking outside to get yall pictures of the foam." - May 6 " I just DONT have any specific answers for y'all... I am thinking I'll have the cash in the next 30 days... That will get me the boxes and I can start shipping..." - May 25 https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/minibox/comments
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Post by: Eldarain
Yeah this is not looking good. Appears to be out of funds and hoping for an investor to bail him out.
Ideally an update will be forthcoming as he cited mid-july as a target for progress.
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Post by: bubber
Yeah, I'm starting to get worried. Should have waited as there's now a UK-based KS doing a similar thing & I won't have to pay P&P + import tax.
I dropped $170 (& not at today's exchange rate) for 6 & may still have to pay the import tax.
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Post by: pretre
Quite a bit of wait still going on here. Only about 6 months late right now. :(
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Post by: rigeld2
I feel the need to apologize for endorsing Robert. He seemed like a decent guy before this, and locally has delivered product, it seems like he hasn't fulfilled everything. He also (that I saw - and I'm not attending every event) seemed to stop showing up at events in Houston.
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Post by: pretre
Yeah some folks seem to have gotten their boxes but communication is super sketchy and a lot haven't...
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Post by: Triple9
Yeah, glad I went in very light on this one. Just 1 box. Drives me crazy when a KS goes sideways, but
the creator more or less disengages for long periods of time.
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Post by: cincydooley
If any of his previous communications pre-funding were like that one, I'm amazed he kept any backers at all. That's barely English.
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Post by: carlos13th
 cincydooley wrote:If any of his previous communications pre-funding were like that one, I'm amazed he kept any backers at all. That's barely English.
Y'all got a problem with how he speaks?
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Post by: Sining
Why on earth did this get moved to Dakka discussions??
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Post by: vic
I'm in this for $70+
I really hope he delivers. I can cope with the lateness but would be very disappointed if I don't receive anything :(
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Post by: pretre
Sining wrote:Why on earth did this get moved to Dakka discussions??
Kickstarters generally do after they close and aren't news anyore.
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Post by: Pause Game
I haven't received any product yet either.
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Post by: pretre
Still nothing.
From the RTP Minis Facebook page:
Robert: "30 down 180 ish to go I will be mailing out another 200 boxes next week"
"i know, it is never that i dont want to update yall... i am trying to make the money to ship all of this... i will put an update together soon after i ship out the next group late next week."
Both from October 18th. Automatically Appended Next Post: And apparently he got a new laptop on the 8th, but still can't afford shipping. :( Automatically Appended Next Post: https://www.facebook.com/robert.h.mims.9
Here's the dude, if anyone wants to reach out.
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Post by: pretre
Another month and still nothing. I think I've given up on these. :(
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Post by: Eldarain
Yup. Not expecting to see mine. Apparently some backers have sent him money to ship theirs and have received nothing.
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Post by: pretre
 Eldarain wrote:Yup. Not expecting to see mine. Apparently some backers have sent him money to ship theirs and have received nothing.
Yeah, I was just catching up on FB and KS comments and saw some of that. Pretty scummy.
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Post by: Pete Melvin
I did nearly back this as storage is always an issue, glad I didn't now. Its not so fare gone that its unsalvagable (its no Ice Age Mammals) but the whole thing with people paying extra but still not getting their boxes is certainly dodgy. If he had fulfilled their orders then it would at least have generated good will (and some more people might have thrown good money at him for postage)
This doesnt strike me as a scam, just a naive fool who didnt do his research and now all the KS money is gone, gone, gone.
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Post by: Dr Coconut
I'm one of the backers, and though I have doubts that there will ever be another run of them, I'm not giving up totally as the one I thought was dead and gone, finally came through, after 14 months from funding Creative Gamescapes finally delivered.
So given time Robert (who though having long quiet patches, does eventually communicate with backers) will come up with the good. While waiting though I have missed out on getting boxes earlier and probably cheaper.
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Post by: Tyron
Shame I didn't do my kickstarter before him.
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Post by: orkybenji
I want my boxes.
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Post by: pretre
Unless you want to go pick them up, that's unlikely...
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Post by: Pause Game
Has anyone from the Dakkaverse received their boxes?
... still VERY patently waiting my shipment.
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Post by: Eldarain
 Pause Game wrote:Has anyone from the Dakkaverse received their boxes?
... still VERY patently waiting my shipment.
I have not and people who sent additional funds to cover shipping have posted that they have not received anything either. He claims to not have enough money to ship them. He is on vacation in Mexico currently...
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Post by: agnosto
I went in on this for 4 boxes; haven't seen anything. He hasn't even logged into Kickstarter since Nov 1. Lots oof pics on his personal Facebook page of him and his girlfriend in Mexico. Someone posted in the KS comments that he's claiming he didn't pay for the trip, I call BS on that. This scumbag has taken the money and ran.
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Post by: ulgurstasta
 agnosto wrote:I went in on this for 4 boxes; haven't seen anything. He hasn't even logged into Kickstarter since Nov 1. Lots oof pics on his personal Facebook page of him and his girlfriend in Mexico. Someone posted in the KS comments that he's claiming he didn't pay for the trip, I call BS on that. This scumbag has taken the money and ran.
Yeah this doesn't look good, might be the first KS I get burnt on. Luckily for me I went with quite a low pledge, but my sympathy goes out to the people who trusted this guy and went big on the KS.
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Post by: rigeld2
He delivered to multiple people locally.
If you're not local, good luck getting your boxes. I'd write this off honestly.
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Post by: agnosto
rigeld2 wrote:He delivered to multiple people locally.
If you're not local, good luck getting your boxes. I'd write this off honestly.
A guy from Houston on Kickstarter is saying he never got his stuff. Another backer is asking people to report him to the Texas State Attorney General's Office:
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/consumer/complain.shtml
You can apparently file complaints online.
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Post by: Tyron
I have been keeping a close eye on his kickstarter. One of the backers claims he met up with him and Robert plans to get everything sent in 8 weeks.
If nothing is done after the 2 months I will sort something out (a nice discount or something) for his backers with my products.
Hopefully it will renew your faith in kickstarter.
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Post by: pretre
I have plenty of faith in KS, just not in this bozo.
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Post by: Triple9
In nearly 100 projects backed, I only have two which I have written off and this is one of them. I feel really sorry for the folks who went in heavily on this.
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Post by: agnosto
This will be the first KS project that I will have to write off. Sad really.
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Post by: Tyron
Well I was going by the comments on the kickstarter and I know some of the backers are on here and this was the only way I could communicate with them.
Just trying to help
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Post by: tomjoad
I knew when I first read about this project that this is what would happen...yet I didn't listen to myself and I backed it anyway. I filed with that link to the Texas AG, but I haven't heard anything back yet. Even though I lost only a fairly small amount of money, it seems like they're more likely to look into it if they hear from a whole lot of us.
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Post by: Jeff Newton
He has just posted an update today, the first dance October. He says he should ship them out by the end of April. I guess we will see again.
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Post by: Eldarain
Just wait a month and we'll get our stuff? Where have I heard that before...
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Post by: pretre
Delaying tactic...
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Post by: Eldarain
He only popped his head up once we started talking about suing him. Not a coincidence.
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Post by: tomjoad
Yeah, the update today was as far from reassuring and inspiring as could be. Fun for him, I guess, that he's still pretending to be trying, but I'm as sure today as I was last week that this box is never coming.
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Post by: Ehsteve
Just remember to send your backer details to the email in the comments so in case this falls over again (flipping a coin here, edge: we get the boxes [IMAGINE THE VICTORY!]) we can actually start proceedings and maybe he'll be compelled to act.
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Post by: skarsol
So did you guys ever get your boxes here? This thread and the KS comments seem pretty dead. He's starting to show back up in our local community, so I'm curious how much gak I should be giving him. He seems to have washed his hands of the whole thing and is putting responsibility on his "partner" at this point.
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Post by: Vermis
Fake bloodstains and a heraldic eagle on a shield. I can guess who the target market is for this.
Glad I stuck with me box files.
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Post by: JoshInJapan
I had completely forgotten about this debacle until I saw this revived thread. That money is gone, I think.
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Post by: Sinful Hero
Wow, was this literally a cardboard box filled with foam trays?
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Post by: orkybenji
Yes, they were a good deal, but he mismanaged the production. He ran away with the money and stopped responding to backers. On social media he was seen going on vacations and buying computers. Some backers started legal action and contacting channels in Texas. After that, he suddenly reappeared and started shipping. Coincidentally, the most active complainers got their boxes and the silent majority were left in the cold.
I have since moved on.
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Post by: agnosto
Yeah. I never received anything. He's a Kimball and deserving of whatever crap skarsol and other locals can give him.
Skarsol, I'd consider it a favor if you asked him about this ever time you see him. He had piles of foam at one point so I'm sure he's going to try and off load it all at some point, if he hasn't already.
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Post by: skarsol
agnosto wrote:Yeah. I never received anything. He's a Kimball and deserving of whatever crap skarsol and other locals can give him.
Skarsol, I'd consider it a favor if you asked him about this ever time you see him. He had piles of foam at one point so I'm sure he's going to try and off load it all at some point, if he hasn't already.
He's talking about a partner now, so I'm guessing he may have already offloaded everything physical he had. I'm guessing it's whoever was involved with RTP Minis with him. Robert has apparently also left the RTP Minis FB group.
Robert wrote:I have passed off the rest of the kickstarter to my partner i am done... i got all the boxes and shipped over half... it was getting to rich for my blood
I will certainly keep harassing him.
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Post by: agnosto
skarsol wrote: agnosto wrote:Yeah. I never received anything. He's a Kimball and deserving of whatever crap skarsol and other locals can give him.
Skarsol, I'd consider it a favor if you asked him about this ever time you see him. He had piles of foam at one point so I'm sure he's going to try and off load it all at some point, if he hasn't already.
He's talking about a partner now, so I'm guessing he may have already offloaded everything physical he had. I'm guessing it's whoever was involved with RTP Minis with him. Robert has apparently also left the RTP Minis FB group.
Robert wrote:I have passed off the rest of the kickstarter to my partner i am done... i got all the boxes and shipped over half... it was getting to rich for my blood
I will certainly keep harassing him.
The FB group has been dead for a looong time and he's talked about a partner multiple times to quiet angst but it never materialized. He came into some money when his father passed and had told everyone that we would get what we were owed but he shipped to like 3 or 4 people (that we're aware of) and then dropped off of the face of the earth again.
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Post by: tomjoad
Yeah, it may be petty and childish and unproductive, but I do want this guy who swindled me and so many others to get some gak for it on a somewhat regular basis, still. He emailed all of us so many times to say that the packages were on their way and it was always a lie. At the least, I hope he never tries to start a business or gets a chance to steal from strangers again .
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Post by: JoshInJapan
Huh. I guess someone has been reading this thread:
UPDATE FROM NEW MANAGEMENT:
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We will be resuming shipping remaining boxes by Tuesday, January 26th, 2016.
We will be starting the shipping by the lower amount tiers and upwards beginning with addresses in the United States, so that we can get as many boxes out in the quickest amount of time.
We appreciate your backing of this project and would like to extend our apologies for the delay of receiving our product.
If you have any questions, please post them to the Kick starter page and we will promptly respond to your questions.
I wonder who the "new management" is...
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Post by: AllSeeingSkink
I didn't know of this kickstarter until now, but it mostly seemed decent for the price.
A 40 model tray costs $45 for 5 from Battlefoam, so if someone says they'll sell you 4 trays and a box to put them in for $30 that's not a bad deal.
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Post by: JoshInJapan
AllSeeingSkink wrote:I didn't know of this kickstarter until now, but it mostly seemed decent for the price.
A 40 model tray costs $45 for 5 from Battlefoam, so if someone says they'll sell you 4 trays and a box to put them in for $30 that's not a bad deal.
Yeah, that was my thought as well. I backed mostly for the pre-cut foam rather than the box itself.
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Post by: solkan
For what it's worth, the most recent Kickstarter update
UPDATE FROM NEW MANAGEMENT:
We will be resuming shipping remaining boxes by Tuesday, January 26th, 2016.
We will be starting the shipping by the lower amount tiers and upwards beginning with addresses in the United States, so that we can get as many boxes out in the quickest amount of time.
We appreciate your backing of this project and would like to extend our apologies for the delay of receiving our product.
If you have any questions, please post them to the Kick starter page and we will promptly respond to your questions.
That was followed, for me at least, by the message:
Please update your mailing address.
We ask for your patience on this our process and thank you for your support. Once we ship your order we have fulfilled our obligation to the Kickstarter project.
If we receive a returned order we will contact you through Kickstarter and hold the box for 90 days. You have the option to pay for shipping within the 90 day period. The 90 days starts when we receive the order back from the USPS. After the end of the 90 days, we will not hold the box/boxes.
We will be finishing all US domestic shipping before international shipping.
-New Management
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Post by: UNCLEBADTOUCH
Guess all the packages will somehow end up being returned to them and no one will contact them in the 90 days, but they will have fulfilled their obligation ;-)
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Post by: RiTides
AllSeeingSkink wrote:I didn't know of this kickstarter until now, but it mostly seemed decent for the price.
A 40 model tray costs $45 for 5 from Battlefoam, so if someone says they'll sell you 4 trays and a box to put them in for $30 that's not a bad deal.
That's the problem, though - someone without experience or very well known, promising something that seems to be too good of a deal to sustain... those are the projects that always give me goosebumps / make me nervous. Obviously, hindsight is 20/20 here... but a lot of times the best deals on Kickstarters are also the riskiest (unless through an established company, such as CMON, if you like their stuff).
It's good that they say they'll resume shipping, but the "New Management" (in all caps!) stuff seems pretty fake... here's hoping you guys get something for all the trouble =/
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Post by: We
AllSeeingSkink wrote:I didn't know of this kickstarter until now, but it mostly seemed decent for the price.
A 40 model tray costs $45 for 5 from Battlefoam, so if someone says they'll sell you 4 trays and a box to put them in for $30 that's not a bad deal.
Yea it was a bad deal. Having to deal with the delays and possibly being ripped of of your money, pretty bad deal IMO. Maybe if the guy would have charged more he could have fulfilled the orders.
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Post by: tomjoad
I've read that the number one thing kickstarter producers underestimate is how hard it will be for them to deal with Chinese manufacturers. When I was following the updates for this project it was very obvious to me that Mims had no experience with China, or with manufacturing at all, and that was such a clear red flag that at least I reduced my pledge to the smallest box on offer, and only one of them. Obviously, I wish I had just cancelled altogether, but at least I'm not out as much as some people are.
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Post by: skarsol
 solkan wrote:For what it's worth, the most recent Kickstarter update
UPDATE FROM NEW MANAGEMENT:
We will be resuming shipping remaining boxes by Tuesday, January 26th, 2016.
We will be starting the shipping by the lower amount tiers and upwards beginning with addresses in the United States, so that we can get as many boxes out in the quickest amount of time.
We appreciate your backing of this project and would like to extend our apologies for the delay of receiving our product.
If you have any questions, please post them to the Kick starter page and we will promptly respond to your questions.
That was followed, for me at least, by the message:
Please update your mailing address.
We ask for your patience on this our process and thank you for your support. Once we ship your order we have fulfilled our obligation to the Kickstarter project.
If we receive a returned order we will contact you through Kickstarter and hold the box for 90 days. You have the option to pay for shipping within the 90 day period. The 90 days starts when we receive the order back from the USPS. After the end of the 90 days, we will not hold the box/boxes.
We will be finishing all US domestic shipping before international shipping.
-New Management
I suspect they may have gotten a message from KS in response to the project being reported after Robert announced he was washing his hands of it. I guess we'll see if any boxes actually show up.
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Post by: tomjoad
In the interest of fairness, I'll say that my box has shown up, though Mims still had nothing to do with it. A guy called Eric Christiansen has been fulfilling the orders and, as far as I know, everybody is getting their stuff.
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Post by: Triple9
Yeah, my box showed up a couple weeks ago as well. Rather nice actually. It's a shame Mims fouled it up so miserably as I would definitely have bought more of them.
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Post by: JoshInJapan
This makes me hopeful that I will actually get my boxes.
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