Very impressive SoO. Love the dynamic lighting... it's a great fig too.... the sweeping robes and pose are very dramatic!

SONS of ORAR wrote:

@ Alpharius : we have one in our garden so i'll try and get a pic of it when the rain stops

There's a lot of Welsh on my wife's side, so we ended up naming our 2nd daughter Rowan!

OT: Farseer model = awesome!

Wow, for a first attempt a non metallic that is pretty impressive!

the Farseer based and virtually finished

@ Alpharius :cool stuff i'll def get a picture up for you

Chris

That looks like a winner.

Your doing great with the vignette the only real complaint is your NNM gold on the farseers chest is too start in contrast and has little looks in the way of blending. I think if you can get the medium in transistion more to show that they will look more natural and thus highly improved. Otherwise should be interesting to see what you do with this.

Is this for GD this year because it is looking very nice. I am guessing that this is set on a craftworld from the floor, it looks really smart at the moment. As impressive as always!!

Imp. Monkey

I think you deserve to win atleast one GD category )

@ w0chtulka : so do i but that's for the judges to decide and there are many better painters than me out there

@ Empchild : thanks for the advice i shall bear it in mind and have a go at improving the gold

you may remember back a long time ago i started painting a terminator librarian... well the project has resurfaced from the depths in all it's glory... well not yet all it's glory

anyway here are some pics of the wee beasty... or massive insanely strong man in incredibly thick armour...







as you can see there is still a fair bit to do but he's taking shape but there's plenty left to do!

comment's and advice welcome!

Chris

He's looking great all ready! But imho, isn't the purple on the staff standing out a bit to much against the rest of the colours? I think it's a bit to many diferent colours with the white, blue, red and then the purple. something is just not right. You got an idea of how I'm thinking?


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Or maybe it's the red that just don't fit.. there is something that trubles my eye at least...

i know what your on about and i think the white is to bright at the mo on about 70% of the model because it hasn't been shaded and weathered yet. should look a bit better after that's done.

SoO

Very nice, that farseer is superb. Can kind of see what Rose-Mountainz is saying, but I also can't quite put my finger on what it is. I think it might be the red, but I'm also thinking that it'll pull together a lot more when faced off against the farseer. Could you do a shot of the two on the base?

Edit: Ahh, that might be it I'll wait till you've finished the white

2nd Edit: Damn, it really took me 5 minutes to type 3 sentences? Almost as slow as my painting.

Comment: Your awesome.

Advice: Keep on being awesome.

Upon seeing that, my initial reaction "Wow, that will win". Then my second reaction was "GEEEEERAAAAAAARGGGGH!", as my head exploded in anger for I knew that would always be beyond me.

You are insane. I don't know how I neglected this blog. Seriously great work.

I too am a fan of laser cutters, but more for the architectural modelling side of things!
Must have been a very finely calibrated setup to etch those screws in without any burn!

Seriously though, I don't know how you're doing what you're doing at your age. I'm 19 and if I ever get to some of your weathering and painting techniques I'll be amazed.

WIN.

Looking good! Havent touched mine in ages, been working on my howling griffon terminators.

I noticed you faded the colours on the ridges of the armour at the back. I didnt do that on mine but I think it looks good! I just left all the recesses black throughout and merged into them from the flat parts.

What wochtulka was saying about the colours, I think for me the primary factor is that the librarian isnt completely blue, but that ties in with what you were saying about replacing the armour with white parts as they get more experienced. I had to resort to tying the HG colours into the emblems. Dont know if youve seen mine yet, but its not as good as yours tho again its not finished but thats why were all looking at your pics and not at mine; Your work is astounding! lol

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/111615-Howling%20Griffons%20Librarian%201%20Wip.html?m=2

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/111616-Howling%20Griffons%20Librarian%202%20Wip.html?m=2

Its so unfinished but hope you dont mind me linking.

I want that librarian.....even though I cant take them :( damn templar psyker hate

I think the diorama would look even better if you had a huge crack running through the floor in line with where either the farseer's sword or the Librarian's hand is pointing, to show some of their psychic power. Or maybe a wall of fire or something, sort of like when Harry and Voldemort's wands clash in Goblet of Fire, Order of the Phoenix, etc.

TempusCorvus wrote:I think the diorama would look even better if you had a huge crack running through the floor in line with where either the farseer's sword or the Librarian's hand is pointing, to show some of their psychic power. Or maybe a wall of fire or something, sort of like when Harry and Voldemort's wands clash in Goblet of Fire, Order of the Phoenix, etc.

I dunno, the crack maybe. But the fire would be too far. a lot of this hobby is knowing where to stop and not overdo it!

Imp. Monkey

looking amazing man that termi is excellent keep up the inspiering work man

Yo,

I absolutely love the laser etched perspex, thats such an original idea and a great effect. Bonus points there! Its looking great.

Don't get distracted now, the competition doors are almost opening! Cheers for checking out my blog, its very sub-par compared to your amazing work, but I am hoping to have some Ravens to take the field soon!

Keep it up!

Sorry for the lack of updates last week i've been away again and will be away again till next friday

@ s.j.mccartney : cheers man! it's nice to hear from you again! and to be fair if it wasn't for your help i would never have bothered setting this blog up!

anyway the duel is nearing completion as you can no doubt see in the pictures










As you can see it is almost done. just a few paint chips to tidy up and sharpen up a few highlights

if you can see any mistakes or faults please point them out so i can fix them

Cheers, Chris

So very incredibly awesome! The one thing I can say is there may be a few too many grass patches..... It doesn't look natural. Other than that.... I..... Wow!

i was thinking the same thing. whenever i get any new stuff i always go a bit OTT :/

Were't you gona paint light effects from the librarians hand?
Amazing diorama othewise! The colours really fit well and it's just a delight to look at. I wish you good luck in the competition!

Incredible work Chris... love the grass patches and especially the leaves strewn about. Really gives it that "calm before the storm" feel. The only think I'm not totally sold on is the energy glow around the power cables. Has nothing to do with how you've painted it... I've experimented with it myself as it makes complete sense, I just don't think it translates well into this medium. The blue chinstrap effect I find distracting... though it makes perfect sense in context.

Minor beef really, and it's a matter of personal taste. I't been a great ride watching this come together... thanks for sharing the process of making a really high-end diorama with the rest of us!

Maybe if you did something else that's small yet interesting it would draw attention away from the grass. Or just carefully get rid of some of it....

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That diorama is pure WIN gratz man !

just. wow!

very nice work! I think you will win for sure.

I like it - no complaints at all!

Grass patch count is just right, by my eyes!

Wow - Best diorama ever.

Seriously, it is immense. I think the painting and the effort in the basing and finishing of it are top class. This is a contender for the win.

The only point that I would suggest would be the 'action' between the models. I know that they're psykers so its all in the mind and all that, but it would be great to get something physical that joins the two as a point of contact. Duel is all about the duelling! It all suggests - about to duel rather than - about to chop your head off!!!

Its your model and its fantastic, but would something like lightning coming from their fingers or something less tacky be possible? I dunno, just a suggestion....

Gitsplitta wrote:Incredible work Chris... love the grass patches and especially the leaves strewn about. Really gives it that "calm before the storm" feel. The only think I'm not totally sold on is the energy glow around the power cables. Has nothing to do with how you've painted it... I've experimented with it myself as it makes complete sense, I just don't think it translates well into this medium. The blue chinstrap effect I find distracting... though it makes perfect sense in context.

Minor beef really, and it's a matter of personal taste. I't been a great ride watching this come together... thanks for sharing the process of making a really high-end diorama with the rest of us!

I agree, the face-glow really does look a bit odd. A bit too... sudden? I can't think of the word. The power cable glow I like a lot.

Very great work as usual. I personally enjoy the amount of grass.

So damn good!

Not a big fan of light sourcing myself but its all amazing. Base looks brilliant.

Absolutely frikkin' awesome!!!!

i love the negative colouring on the cloak, and the blending of the witchblades.

Amazing all I can say!!!!

Are you doing the glowing power weapons effect, if so you should highlight the ground near the librarians power weapon.

Really cool. I think it'll win for sure.

Wonderful work. Good luck for the competition.

Love the painting man, respect

i have to say looking at the picture this is amazing i love the eldar symbol on the cloak, what am i saying the whole eldar is amazing. but with a good comment comes a bit of critisism im not a huge fan on the lighting effects on the termis chin it seems a bit to thick and not "glowe" if you get what i mean but i love the base it really gives the feel of an abandoned eldar ship or maiden world

I can't even begin to find faults in this diorama. The only thing I could say is that the Farseer's eyes need a dot of reflection on the lenses. Contrary to what some have said - LEAVE THE GRASS! I think that it does look natural and really ties the model together as a whole.

All-in-all - amazing work!

Awesome work, and glad to see it almost finished. Agree on the grass with Alpharius, looks just right, both amount and location.

One question - how are you going to fit this on a 40 or 50mm slottabase as per the duel requirements (if it's still going into the duel category), on a plinth of some sort?

Like the object source lighting too, agree it's a bit heavy in places but having done some on my librarian dread I know it's hard to get it looking 100% correct. I like it though, esp. the symbol on the cloak.

it's no longer a 40 or 50mm slotter base... it have to ne no bigger than 12"x12"x12" which it isn't

SONS of ORAR wrote:it's no longer a 40 or 50mm slotter base... it have to ne no bigger than 12"x12"x12" which it isn't

Are you sure - http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=10500056a

This says different. (I know some of the other GDs have 12"x12"x12" (like the Australian one))

this guy is coming along and is nearing completion...

any advice will be welcomed!

the lips will need to be corrected i know. bit of a fail there but over all i'm fairly happy

Chris

The hair seems a bit flat looking. If you dont wanna finish him up, feel free to send him my way. You know, for proper disposal.

Since your doing this for demon I will be straight so please don't take it in any negative context:
1.) Your metals are flat and have little depth.
2.) The freehand is really sloppy and needs to be cleaned up.
3.) Your checkers are 2 tone and you do little to show a well blended effect.
4.) You are not taking natural lighting into account thus making everything to even all around. Models that win in any demon take light source into affect when painting.
5.) Finally some of your painting has a little bit in the run off lines that needs to be cleaned up. All in all not bad but if you want to be in it to win it you need to do a lot more work on this baby.

I think it looks great!
i like the checkers more than the flordalies epic missplelling in know sorry :/ im in Boy Scouts and i cant even spell the name of their main symbol DX

Awsome. simply awsome

That is one bad ass Warrior Priest, great job on the under-robes. The base is fantastic too !

i have a couple of issues with what you have said empchild... first of all the checkers are not at all flat maybe there're some probs with the pics... natural lighting has been top of the agenda... look at the shadows under the hammer in the picture under the montage... yes the free hand needs to be crisper though it's not what i'd call "really sloppy" ... unless you're comparing it to this: http://www.jeremiebt.com/pages/page_diapo.php?page=pub_ravagehs_freehand&img=../images/gal/publication/freehand_ravage_hs//DSCN5940.JPG

the metal however does need a little more definition

but however thanks for spotting the run off lines i hadn't noticed them

and remember... i'm 10 years younger than you and if i win a silver in GD (which i highly doubt) i'll be the youngest person ever to get that far... and as far as i know only one other 17yr old has a bronze and he is now on the 'Eavy metal team

thanks for the tips. e'm sorry if i took your comments a little overly personally empchild i've literally just got out of bed thanks for them anyway

Chris

Hi SoO

Absolutely stunning model! love the metallic lighting on the shoulderpads especially, i can never get the hang of the technique.

C&C? well, my only point that i'm not sure about is the hair stubble, from the photo it looks a little dark, like he's smeared tar on his head. But as you mentioned previously, it could be a photo issue.

Again! superb work

Kensei

SONS of ORAR wrote:i have a couple of issues with what you have said empchild... first of all the checkers are not at all flat maybe there're some probs with the pics... natural lighting has been top of the agenda... look at the shadows under the hammer in the picture under the montage... yes the free hand needs to be crisper though it's not what i'd call "really sloppy" ... unless you're comparing it to this: http://www.jeremiebt.com/pages/page_diapo.php?page=pub_ravagehs_freehand&img=../images/gal/publication/freehand_ravage_hs//DSCN5940.JPG

the metal however does need a little more definition

but however thanks for spotting the run off lines i hadn't noticed them

and remember... i'm 10 years younger than you and if i win a silver in GD (which i highly doubt) i'll be the youngest person ever to get that far... and as far as i know only one other 17yr old has a bronze and he is now on the 'Eavy metal team

thanks for the tips. e'm sorry if i took your comments a little overly personally empchild i've literally just got out of bed thanks for them anyway

Chris

Eh like I said was only being so overly critical since it is for demon... ooo and look up Dylan Gauker. I believe he was 16 when he won his slayer sword.

well that'd mean he won a gold at 14 which is damn impressive! though GD UK is the hardest one to win. especially with the likes of team spain and platoon britannica attending.

e.g compare Dylan Gauker's sword winner with that of Fernando Prieto Carbonell


by Dylan Gauker


by Fernando Prieto Carbonell

that is why no 17 yr old has got further than a bronze or silver in GD UK and i don't think i'm up to it either this year... though hopefully i'll get a demon next year if all goes to plan

I agree with you, but was showing you young guys have won. Now keep in mind you posted it on the forums asking for C&C and I gave it to you. You got upset which hey I am sorry I looked at it how the judges would. I know you have spent a lot of time on it but if you put somemore in you may have a real shot, but if you take it to heart and wear your feelings on your sleves well maybe you should wait a while thats all. I have several friends who will be at that Games day and hopefully next year so will I and if your going to enter something go for a demon right! The only difference between gold and bronze is a judges personal preferance, Jakob Rune Neilson told me that.

Your army and modles are great I was just wondering how you use your souce lighting. You known do you have the light facing them slightly off to the side or what ever you know

I think you've got a heck of a shot at winning - Good Luck!

"and remember... i'm 10 years younger than you " That doesn't have anything to do about his criticism tbh. Empchild
is honest and is telling the truth. The judges don't care if your 17 or 40.
Don't ask for criticism if you can't handle it in a good way. He gave you tips on what to do better and I think you should think about them instead of neglecting them. That's all.


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Sorry if it sound a bit harsch.

Empchild i'm sorry for taking your criticism the wrong way... in all honesty i get some of the best advice from you.. i've given what you suggested a go... i've tried to tidy up the free hand, the cloth has a lot more definition though i'm not sure how clear that is from the pics. the the paint on the face still looks a bit thick but i don't know how to correct that really :( ... and ass for the armour i've shaded that down to a matt purply browny black. have a look at the pics and if you have a more suggestions don't hold back it is for the best in the end

well I've got a couple of GD things finished or near finished now. so here they are:

Empire Warrior Preist.






Sentinel





there may be room for improvement so if you spot anything or have some tips let me know. they have to be finished totally be Tuesday evening.

Chris

I understand man don't sweat it. The only trick to a demon is time. As per the priest with the checkers just have one of the sides highlighted. Your checks in the center still seem to look like you layered them.have the lower points of each check be highlighted while your highest are darker. As per the vehicle it look amazing. Can we see the cock pit. Your right their on the empire just another not even an hour on the middle checkers and I think you will have it. Good luck

I love the realistic feel to them, and the priest looks really good. You don't see them with a checked pattern on thier robes that often so I think it stand out a bit more than the regular dark red robes people usually paint them in.

The power cords/tubes may need a little attention - as it is right now they kind of stick out.

Maybe they could be 'dirtied up' a bit?

Other than that, everything looks great!

yeah i know what your saying about them... i think i might just cut them off... it's annoying me a little :/

i love the warrior priest , how did you paint the face it looks incredible , the sentinel is awesomer but i agree with alpharius the ubes look to clean , but thats just me.

'claw

i've been thinking about freehand... and i think there is plenty of room for improvement...

it's not this level yet.

as to the cockpit.



the crewman before being put in. the red thing on his chest has been tidied up now


the lip/tongue have also been tidied up



detail shots

@ blackclaw1 the face is painted with the usual highlighting etc. what gives the shading are a number of very thin washes. i shall do a tutorial at some point at is't too hard to explain without pictures.

SoO

Awesome stuff! Looking very nice! But I do have something to say: the priest is kind of a bit much. The blood is fighting for the eye with the checkers, mostly becuase the checks are also red, while others are that bright blue but it is distracting. It may be too late now, but next time you might want to try painting the checks white and black, it'll be a bit less overwhelming.

dirty up the shoulder armor and upper torso of the driver. He is too clean for a vehicle so worn.

maybe he's the new pilot.

Or a new uniform could of lost it in a card game.

Don't cut off the wires, they stand out. You might consider finding a way to tuck them in by the legs and back, because if those are power chords, they would easily be shot off. Dirty them up a bit. wires get black all over them, just from being used. Also, try to crinkle them some. Put a few indentations in if you can. Of course, this may be more difficult than I think it is; what material are you using?

On to the warrior-priest: good subtle-lighting, but are those bumps on his face supposed to be bruises? If they are, you might want to consider adding some red with a bit of blue-ish purple to them, or some greenish yellow, depending on how long they're supposed to have been there. Greenish yellow comes first, meaning they're relatively fresh (which also means that a red-purple bruise on the cheekbone like that would likely be an immediate concussion, if you want his injuries to look 'fresh')



Anyways, great work as always, just a few things I've noticed, advice, you know. Good luck at the GD!

Yeah, keep the wires, don't snip them off. Just dirty them a bit more, the red looks too clean compared to the rest.
Good job

wow! your models are great!

Wow, they look great! The only thing is that the blood on the warrior priest looks a little bit bright (but that could be the camera) Loving the sentinel!

I dunno if it really matters, but from the pictures the pilots hands look a very different shade to his face. It may not matter. Just wanted to inform you.

Imp. MOnkey

wicked stuff!

Imperial Monkey wrote:I dunno if it really matters, but from the pictures the pilots hands look a very different shade to his face. It may not matter. Just wanted to inform you.

Imp. MOnkey

The way he did it was right with light sourceing.

Don't remove the wires completely, maybe shorten them a little?
They do seem a tad long, maybe a little shorter could sort them out?

Newt-Of-Death wrote:Fantasy is by far inferior to 40k!

In most ways, but Im still very intregued by it. Love Bretonians and wood elves and lizardmen and suchlike, but Im imminently buying a bretonian box set.

What fantasy army are you SoO and do you have any pics O' doom O' those?

sorry too rake this one up but DUDE dont be hating towards fantasy because you can only remember the simple rules of 40k (just kidding i play both and neighter is superior than the other its just whats floats your boat.

back on topic what a great army is this i love it i spend 3 day going trough all the pages and i cant say more than AWESOME.

really dont wanna bitch but you cant run your duel in the duel its too big. but you can run it in the diorama.

o and one last tip after Games Day dont cut yourself on that slayer sword your will wiin. its a bummer i cant go

Hi all

fixed up that wire problem with a couple of simple grey washes






sorry about the blur on the top pictures... the camera must have miss-focused.

... and the finished duel/diorama.





the focus was a bit shoddy on them as well... i'll take some better shots soon but you can get an idea from them

Cheers for the comments!

Chris


And if you want to see me at games day PM me and we can arrange something

That really helped the wires, not they're much more in line with the "condition" of the rest of the figure. The duel is just phenomenal.

Agreed... The wires add a lot to the Sentinel...

As for the duel, it's awesome...

IIRC, while it was WIP you mentioned how you made the leafs... Weren't they some flower seeds or something??

Those washes have really helped out the Sentinel, now it all looks tied together (forgive the pun)

awesome sauces

nice work!

Great work on the freehand for the duel. Great stuff all around I think you deffinately have a very promising future. Gl and let us know how it goes.

Your stuffs bloody ace mate, well done.

Thanks everyone. Cheers Empchild for all your tips, they've really helped!

i'm entering the thunderbolt pilot i painted around christmas and he's now on a funky base!








what do you think?

i've also had a crack at last years GD mini for fun... it took about a day and a half in total...







Please PM me if you'll be at Gamesday UK this year


Thank's again, Chris

Aduro wrote:Super cool. I'm not generally a fan of dirty and weathered paint jobs, but that's done really well so I'll make an exception in this case.

I much prefer them to flat and lifeless paint schemes (even when technically well-painted), and this is a prime example of weathering is done masterfully!!!


The tones and level of realism witht he wear is impressive, and should look great when done army-wide.

I have not seen this models done for this chapter before, and I eagerly await seeing more of your work!

Great models, You've got exceptional skills! subscribed.

I love the wood on your axe! Excellent stuff!

Great thread! All you need now is more cowbell

Your weathering is really impressive on that sentinel....do you happen to have a tutorial on it? It is one of the most realistic paint schemes ive seen in a long time. I really appreciate someone that paints the IG more like a real war torn army and less like some fraternity idiots at a costume party

good stuff. It inspires me to take even longer over my painting

omg this stuff is amazing. i love the priest he has that look "WHAT you mocking sigmar as well!!!!!!" well done man

Cool models, Really well painted.

All models are completely finished now with bases and labels


all 4 entries




"Battle of Minds"



++Sentinel 311 Preparing to Engage++


"warrior of Sigmar"


"Imperial Thunderbolt pilot"

and there we go

Chris

Awesome! Love your painting style.
Only thing I could critique on is that the SW is facing with the back to the front of the plinth, which is a shame when displayed in a cabinet.
But since we got blessed with hands not only to paint, but also to pick up things and rotate them I don't see it as a big problem

Question, what are those labels made of?

Battle of minds? I don't know about that, IMO I would have called it duel of phsykers, or clash of the warp, something with a bit more oomph! Not that it matters much, the paint job on all of the entry's is incredible. Good luck with the competition!

Not bad all around, all I can say is best of luck to you.

Dannis. that is the most important thing! what do the judges see? the backs of the models first so they have to be as good as the front. and the trick with a duel/diorama is to have it looking equally awesome from all angles!

Commander Cain: so would i, but i had about 30 seconds to think of something before i had to leave for the bus to get them made :/ though it is a painting not naming competition luckily so it shouldn't matter to much... hopefully

Thanks Empchild, i'll need it...

SoO

Outstanding work SoO, I'm very anxious to see what dividends all your hard work and creativity produce.

i dread to think... i'll know in about about 169 hours time...

Woah. Good luck, and may the force be with you.

EDIT: You have the power of my 1600th post beside you.

Why not do something like the powers manifesting like in one of the season 5 B5 show.

Good Luck SoO, looking forward to hearing the verdict.

Awesome minis!! Good luck to you!

(question : how did you make the small leaves on the "Battle of Mind" Diorama?)

great thread, and great work on those models....

jim

Yggdrasil. i didn't make them. you can buy them on various scale model sights but they're pretty expensive...

http://www.tasca-modellismo.com/english/item4.html

i just found these sitee which makes very nice scale plants.

http://www.modelsforsale.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=230383-PlusModel---Green-Leaves---Oak-Scale-1/35-#252

SoO

Dude, those are all well done, but my favorite is "Battle of Minds"

That's a cool grey knight conversion, and the farseer is well painted, but the factor about it I like best is you can't see both model's faces at the same time. It may seem like a minor thing, but I think it adds a lot to the idea of a 'Duel' and lets the veiwer really focus on one model at a time, and provides a natural contrast between the duelists.

Hopefully others will have as much praise for it (and more!) good luck!

Fantastic work, and you don't need luck, I predict at least 1/2 if not allbeing finalists and one will at least win a prize! Look forward to hearing, I wish I was going but real life has called me away from that chance...next year maybe! I would wish you luck but you'll do well, so hey, its not needed! Have fun.

Imp. Monkey
Oh, and check out the UK deathwatch, A contribution from you would be well appreciated.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/310658.page

That is some great looking stuff again. Keep it coming dude!

Its too your credit that you've got your models finished to such an amazingly high standard with still plenty of time to spare! well done.

I hope you get at least finalists, and you get at most a trophy!

Good luck

Ultimate dude!

Battle of minds is a great name. Really serious and rich in thought potential.

Not a big fan on the thunderbolt pilot model for some reason but your paintings still great. He looks a bit like hugh laurie or whatever his name is! lol

The sentinels definately my favourite.

Good luck!

Sentinels definitely going to be up there, real nice weathering.

Probably finalist for the others. Good luck for the weekend.

Good luck for the weekend mate. Hope you do well.

Newt-Of-Death wrote:Not a big fan on the thunderbolt pilot model for some reason but your paintings still great. He looks a bit like hugh laurie or whatever his name is! lol

Well in that case, he should win gold.

starbomber109 wrote:Dude, those are all well done, but my favorite is "Battle of Minds"

That's a cool grey knight conversion!

That's the normal librarian in terminator model...nothing close to grey knight.

me too good luck.

Empchild wrote:

starbomber109 wrote:Dude, those are all well done, but my favorite is "Battle of Minds"

That's a cool grey knight conversion!

That's the normal librarian in terminator model...nothing close to grey knight.

i can see where he's coming from... the force weapon is from a grey knight... but... that's about it lol

Wow. I just read through the whole 25 pages of this and enjoyed every page of it. Great tutorials. You're painting is most impressive too. I can't imagine what another 10 (20, 30, 40) years of experience will do for you. I'm definitely subscribing to this thread to inspire my painting. Are you going to get back to your Sons at some point? Scouts maybe?

Anyways, good luck at GD UK. (When is it btw?)

26th sept is GD, this sunday!

I love what you have been doing with the weathering on your vehicles. are these done using the paint>hairspray>paint>scubb with wire wool technique?

Good luck! We're all rooting for you!

Btw: You're officially my favorite painter here on Dakka.

Wow.

You are amazingly talented. Great work, man. Keep it up!

Good luck with le competition. Painting as always is gorgeous, and I love the thunderbolt captain.

yeah. i still do Sons of Orar... infact i painted some more assault marines last weekend though i haven't taken any pics yet.

I'm looking forward to seeing these models in person (albeit a pane of glass.)

Awesome! Do you have anymore pics of your sm?

GD is 26th ??

Thats my Birthday

well congrats in advance.
I hope you do well SoO

Hopefully for your Bday, SoO wins some stuff and we get DE news

whalemusic360 wrote:Hopefully for your Bday, SoO wins some stuff and we get DE news

yeah i saw the new model for the DE's i cant wait to get my hands on some now >=] ive only been waiting a year since i started but still they are older than me when they got first released

They look awsome will definately be looking for ur models on Sunday

I'll be meeting people from dakka at 11:00 at the Space marine statue! everybody is welcome!

Good luck for the 'morrow

good luck chuck on the GW site you can sneak a peak of the slayer sword that you are gonna win XD

I'll be cheering you on from across the pond!

Good luck tomorrow!

OK - can't stand the suspense!

What happened?!?

yeah keep us yanks updated ;P Did you win!!!!????

Let him get through the door for 5 minutes will you?

No we can't wait!!!!

woah, hold on...has he even got home?!? :O

Imp. Monkey

To be honest Chedder is a few hours from where I live, but SoO could be staying over in wherever it is for the night.

did you win? now did you did you? Holly crap i just relised it's like 5:44 in The UK its like 6:44 in the Netherlands

Looking forward to hearing how you did!

Lol, give him a break guys

*hands Rose a PPG*

His Terminator Chaplain is up on the GW site for Golden Demon. None of his other stuff is though :(

well it was a bit crap... i got in the top 10 for vehicle and partly due to bad placement in the cabinets nothing else finalised..

Gamesday was rather bad as i said in on my GD thread...

SONS of ORAR wrote:In all honesty the day was rubbish! it was less than half the size of past gamesdays, horrendously crowded!

the lack of bargain stand really Pi**ed me off! i queued for 1hour 40mins at forgeworld to get my reservation and was then told to join an even bigger queue to the one till to pay! there was one till for a couple of hundred people! then there was the lack of nice boards, warhammer historical etc!

and it wasn't just forgeworld, every single stand had a scrum at least 3 people deep making it all rather claustrophobic as to the space in hall 1 in past years!

i paid GW £50 for a rather disappointing day! all they seem to do these days is screw you for money!

and to add to that my models were in appalling places in the cabinets and therefore only had one that finalised (i am pleased with that) even though they were all a lot better than my finalising piece last year!

anyway that's the end of my rant...

i may even start to move away from GW figures...

as to those of you i met... twas nice seeing you all and sorry i was a bit dopey... i was unbelievably tired :/

Chris

that's the bad stuff... i'll try and think of some good things later...

You did seam a bit annoyed when I saw you picking up your sentinel at the end of the day, so how come your duel had to go in the diorama category? I looked for it in the duel section but obviously missed it with it not being there the diorama cabinets were crowded every time I came past so I never got to have a look.

the base was not the right size :(

the best bits were:

the new forgeworld and warhammer forge stuff

and

i have MK V and VI forgeworld SM armour, a Lugft Huron model and a free ork fighter pilot

the huron model will be up soon

Ah hard luck Chris.

Sorry i didnt meet up with you again afterwards, i ran out of credit!

You did seem zoned out though! And FW/WF definitely was the best bit. If only GW proper was more liike them...

Thats a real shame chris , btw whats the huron model like m, i'm planning on getting one soon ?

They are beautiful pieces SoO... and your work on them gained you the respect & admiration of many dakkaites. As some famous person once said... "Don't let the b-stards get you down!"

I know it's disapointing in the end, but remember I am sure you are taking a lot away from it. My friend Jakob Rune Neilson didn't even take a demon and he has several swords, and his inquisitor hand scultped blood angles death company is WOWZA!! The cabinet placing doesn't have much to do with it in the end as well they take them all out level by level. In the end you did some great work and be proud. Next year will be even better I am sure as you are constantly developing your skills. Best of luck to you in the future and be happy that you at least earned a pin as that is still an acomplishment.

If the cue to pay was long you should of walked away with the minis.

GW B4ST4RDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Typical.

Typical..

When you think about it tho, youve got thousands of people taking interest in your work on here. If GW were organised and had an ounce of sense they would have made a lot more effort to look at everything thoroughly rather than set it all up in a pointless cluster, and smile unconvincingly as they recieve your money.

If you got onto the website thats good tho!

Bar stuards

Im really looking forward to this huron model. If its half as pretty as it looks on the website, then It should be a real treat seeing how you'l paint it.

I would love to see him done up as a SoO

Well that sucks, but don't let it get you down. You have talent, much more than most could ask for, and at 17 you have plenty of time to progress.

Empchild wrote:I know it's disapointing in the end, but remember I am sure you are taking a lot away from it. My friend Jakob Rune Neilson didn't even take a demon and he has several swords, and his inquisitor hand scultped blood angles death company is WOWZA!! The cabinet placing doesn't have much to do with it in the end as well they take them all out level by level. In the end you did some great work and be proud. Next year will be even better I am sure as you are constantly developing your skills. Best of luck to you in the future and be happy that you at least earned a pin as that is still an acomplishment.

it is a lovely model but in truth i'm not at all suprise being in the open category against the whole Eavy metal team and the likes of Martin Footit. though well done to him all the same! it is a lovely model

90% i reckon of the young bloods are painted by a pro.

Miss Dee wrote:90% i reckon of the young bloods are painted by a pro.

I totally disagree on that. Alot of people have natural talent, and more oftenthen not most of those youngbloods have a "pro" nearbye them where they can learn lessons from. Some people activly try and learn to paint better and advance very quickly.

Agreed w/ Empchild... Some younglings sometimes make me want to give up painting when I see the pace they're improving...

Phewww... But, hopefully for Mankind, some people are more gifted in a way, that's the way it goes... And how our species adapts & survives!


@ SONS of ORAR : I understand you must feel disappointed, especially for the duel base size issue... Still, I hope you'll get over it; for, as some mentioned before me, you really have some skill & you managed to light some passion in many Dakkaites' hearts!!

And you should be proud that your Terminator Chaplain was selected among all those minis... That's a victory in itself, a dream most of us will never get to know!!

So, I have to send you my congratulations for your beautiful works of art.

Cheers,
Yggdrasil.

Are you going to continue the thread now or start another? I'm looking forward to seeing more, but I wouldn't blame you for taking a break if you did.

edit great work , will hopefully learn some new painting techniques from your blog . cheers

Just to add to the youngbloods having talent. 2 examples:

1) in Ottawa, there was a speed painting contest at the local battle bunker. 1.5 hours to paint up the best fig you could (it was already primed). Taken by a 15 year old who painted a space wolf to a calibre i have yet to match with unlimited time

2) here in NZ, to of the top players, Jack and Tom Dunn, both won most of their tournaments and painting awards under 18. In particular, try and find pictures of Jack's Kharandras themed eldar, still one of the most fetching armies I've seen.

http://little-horus.blogspot.com/2009/04/shadow-host-of-karandras.html
found it!
nice work - not too fond of the dark olive green but it is well enough done that I don't mind

Glad your Chaplain made it at least, and it was a pleasure meeting you!

Gitsplitta wrote:They are beautiful pieces SoO... and your work on them gained you the respect & admiration of many dakkaites. As some famous person once said... "Don't let the b-stards get you down!"

Do you happen to be talking about Billy Joe Armstrong?

@Sons Of Orar: I'm sure that if you had a better spot in the cabinet, you would have gotten what you deserved. Oh lady luck why have you forsaken him?

i would blame the outrider who recorded your piece too bad this year it wasnt me. but personally i wouldnt blame your place in th cabinet or any other little thing. it really is putting your hard work too shame. soo you didnt win this year but what have you learned from it? what are you going too do next GD. Germany is just a few days away try it there if you can. the winning vehicle is a fellow dakadite and his piece is great maybe you can get some pointers from him? he goes too a lot of painting competitions so why wouldnt you ask him for help? your a great painter SoO and maybe next time it's your time but keep evolving our self (omg SoO is evolving into psyduck) (sorry about the pokemon refrence my post was getting too serious)

greets Fatty

twas nice seeing you there Disjointed Entity sorry i was a bit spaced out and grumpy lol. sorry to hear about the costume. that really sucks, especially all the other people dressed up in camo there!

in all honesty i think it may just have been that my painting standards weren't high enough. anyway here is the part finished face of lufgt huron. painted with some new techniques i'm playing around with






the blending could be a little smoother and the left eye needs sorting but i'm quite pleased

just for a sense of scale

what do you think?

Chris

Like the beard, but he seems a bit too rough if you know what I mean.

Wow. And that's just the head.

DarkAngelsRK wrote:Like the beard, but he seems a bit too rough if you know what I mean.

hence why i said the blending needs smoothing

Wow if thats just the head,I cant wait to see what you do with the armour

SONS of ORAR wrote:

DarkAngelsRK wrote:Like the beard, but he seems a bit too rough if you know what I mean.

hence why i said the blending needs smoothing

Sounds good

DarkAngelsRK wrote:Like the beard, but he seems a bit too rough if you know what I mean.

I don't know, he is a CSM, it makes him look a bit more... old or tainted or something. CSM look better to me rough.

Big fan of your work, and that head looks cool. The rough paint lines contribute to the feeling that he's a warrior with centuries (don't know the fluff, so don't know his age) of battles behind him. The one and only thing that I don't like is his right eye. The left looks like a proper eye, but the right pupil is elongated and facing in another direction. Lufgt HURRon ftw.

I don't paint eyes, so I respect you for even managing to pull that off.

Sweet Jesus, that's outstanding.

Looks a little on the yellow side to me is that just the picture or maybe my screen ? Aside from that great stuff.

the yellow is due to the tungsten lighting in my room... i usually use a daylight bulb the top pic is most true to the actual colour though it's still a tad yellowy... there'll be better pictures as i progress with the model

Chris

all i can say is... GIANT FINGER!!!

thats an amazing face, great job, looking forward to seeing more.

Well done for Games Day, sorry it was a disappointment. HOpe you can put all your experiences that you learned from into more awesome painting skills!!

I assumed it was down to the lighting or some thing like that. Looking forward to the rest of the model.

i saw your minis at games day and im suprised you didnt place higher.i was really impressed.this was my first games day and i agree with you that the ques were a p!ss take.i had i nightmare trying to make a purchase at forge world.
anyway keep up the good work as you've inspired me to try my own sons of orar force.
better luck next year with gd and maybe i might have a chance to square up with you(miniatures obviously).

thanks for the comments guys

@ shingouki good luck! post some pics on this thread when you've painted some. if you want some tips feel free to PM me

i said i'd try to up my game a bit and i've started to try some new techniques... i've had a play round with some smoother blending on the lower left leg as can be seen in the pictures bellow









the best bit about the model are the weapons! just look at the heavy flamer, and even better, the the power claw with his real hand inside!!

Chris




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there are some mold lines on the claw but they're terribly fiddly to remove!

That looks amazing so far! Keep us updated, and keep painting!

Looks great, Really like the white. Whats the build up?

Wow, I've been looking for a painted one of these since I saw the model on forge world. Really good job.

Wow. Great painting. Loving the gems on the ankle.

loving the blending on the leg - looks awesome

wow... i never realized how Greek that model is. How do you get the GD look? I can do clean high table top stuff but nothing with that 'look'.

At the risk of repeating the the general replies here, outstanding very much looking forward to seeing this one develop. Also any more of those lovely marines of yours to show us? I'm a sucker for well painted marine especially if it's not one of the more mainstream chapters.

what they (pointig up at porevious post) say and then some more. i really love your white dificult colour btw but so is black. i like the detail of the model and i cheer you on the fact you steped up your game. that which not kills me only makes me stronger.

keep it up

greets Ian "Fatty"

that model does look amazing, and i love the white! is that a forgeworld model, correct?

cool model, but PLEASE CLEAN THOSE MOLD LINES!!!!!! I see the hand and parts on the model weren't properly cleaned and my own anal rententiveness got the better of me.

I know this is a strange thing to compliment on, but I really like that rock. Did you paint that rock, or did it come like that?

I think the rock was painted, because the forge world one has a grey plastic rock under it.
It is quite well painted

crazypsyko666 wrote:I know this is a strange thing to compliment on, but I really like that rock. Did you paint that rock, or did it come like that?

unfortunately fw stuff is unpainted when you get it

HamHamLunchbox wrote:

crazypsyko666 wrote:I know this is a strange thing to compliment on, but I really like that rock. Did you paint that rock, or did it come like that?

unfortunately fw stuff is unpainted when you get it

Awesome work SoO, the armour looks like cast in marble or stone, that's pretty amazing!!!

Also, thanks for pointing out the "real" hand within the Lightning Claw, I had overlooked such a tiny detail on the FW website... Great idea!!!

Keep up the wonderful painting!

great start on huron alas he had sold out by the time i was served on games day.keep up the good work

Hits_the_spot wrote:Looks great, Really like the white. Whats the build up?

the model was undercoated white and given a wash of thinned down black to bring out the detail. the armour (which i've done so far) was base coated with watered down astronomican grey small amounts of white were added until the shade was almost white. the main tip is many coats of thin paint with gradual colour change. the paint chips and scratches were a mixture of scorched brown and black and for the streaks i used the same mix but heavily thinned with acrylic paint thinner.

Bossasaurus wrote:wow... i never realized how Greek that model is. How do you get the GD look? I can do clean high table top stuff but nothing with that 'look'.

take a lot of care and thin you paints and use lots and lots of coats! gradual change in shade are key. if you get white dwarf try some of the 'Eavy metal advanced tutorials, they're absolutely brilliant to boost technique! and have a look at/join some purely miniature painting forums.

Sageheart wrote:that model does look amazing, and i love the white! is that a forgeworld model, correct?

yup

Empchild wrote:cool model, but PLEASE CLEAN THOSE MOLD LINES!!!!!! I see the hand and parts on the model weren't properly cleaned and my own anal rententiveness got the better of me.

Dude don't crap yourself... i'll get to that soon... plus the black wash has brought out some very fine ones i hadn't seen previously which (trust me) is a good (though annoying) thing. in future don't state such blatant things as mold lines especially when i said i'd seen them lol... anyway what do you think of the painting so far? i guess no comment is good??

crazypsyko666 wrote:I know this is a strange thing to compliment on, but I really like that rock. Did you paint that rock, or did it come like that?

the rock was sprayed white and simply washed once with a brown colour which i subtly changed by adding black during painting.

Thanks for the comments everybody

Chris

The downside to white is that when you go close up it never looks as smooth as we would like it. I think this will be one model where I say stay away from the real close up pics and stick to the overall. Not to shabby though I think you are heading down an interesting road with him.

Looking good dude!

How are your sons comming on? Cant leave them to themselves abandonned! lol

Thats a pretty amazing model like. Love the way youve got a nice even application of colour and technique throughout all of the armour.

there are more Sons of Orar in the pipeline... a 10 man forgeworld tactical squad in fact

oh and the reason for the "nice even application of colour and technique throughout all of the armour" is that I haven’t started painting it properly yet unless you are referring to the log I’ve done, in which case thanks

I’ve also got a 120mm US airborne GI to paint from verlinden


(i didn't paint this)

the figure is about 11cm high

SoO

Great so far.. this keeps me going. Your armor on Luft ... What brand of paints are you using on him?

PS. don't feel bad about GD.. some of will never paint to your level, but knowing that does't stop me from trying.

Thanks for Keeping the eyesight impaired inspired.

SL

ahhh vietnam GI... interesting how they went a little more grey then OD green like the actual uniforms. You are going to have a blast on that model and hate it all at the same time. Do you have a good airbrush?

It looks like youve base coated the model and put a couple of layers of colour and wash all over tho? Leg or 'log' is of course looking pretty good!

@SONS of ORAR


Now that's what Catachans should've been like!

qft ^

Newt-Of-Death wrote:It looks like youve base coated the model and put a couple of layers of colour and wash all over tho? Leg or 'log' is of course looking pretty good!

i was surprised how good it looked after just a white undercoat and black wash as well it'd look quite nice on the table as it is, but, alas it isn't a table top mini

some pics-

enjoy.


the box


the bits


the model so far... the detail looks rubbish in this picture but IRL it's gorgeous! the little bottle contains white spirit, and, if your wondering what the big brass thing is in the background, it's the detonator from a WWI heavy artillery shell


some of the FW marines soon to join the ranks of the Sons of Orar

Chris

Empchild wrote:ahhh vietnam GI... interesting how they went a little more grey then OD green like the actual uniforms. You are going to have a blast on that model and hate it all at the same time. Do you have a good airbrush?

yeah i do i have a gravity feed duel action one with a compressor... i think I’ll paint it mostly by hand though to improve my blending... so it'll be airbrushed just for the base coat and to get an idea for the highlights and brushwork for the rest! Should be fun... I’m very pleased however with the lack of mould lines on him

SoO

Good old 'Nam.

I have an affinity with all things Vietnam related; and a piece of trivia Chris, the Greens i was wearing to GD were Vietnam Issues.

So you can get a colour guide (also they are called OG 107)

How many Forge World marines do you have??

Disjointed Entity wrote:Good old 'Nam.

I have an affinity with all things Vietnam related; and a piece of trivia Chris, the Greens i was wearing to GD were Vietnam Issues.

So you can get a colour guide (also they are called OG 107)

i did realise . i was gonna buy some OG 107 combats but went for the later camo pattern

he's pretty much finished now so I’ll have some nice pics up tonight

Chris


oh and i have 10 FW marines

Wow, that's a great conversion and paintjob!

some pictures as promised







i think it could be better so any large scale figure painting tips will be welcome

Chris

Honestly, it's fairly solid for a first real large scale. The thing is with this I am guessing you are shooting for historically acurate so i would say you need to go a little lighter on the OD green fatigues. You have the webgear dead to rites. The skin could use a small amount more shade to it, and the upper reciever on the weapon is still a little bright for how they really are.

Great job on the stubble with the face and the helment in general. I would say your about right there with him just a smudge more work, and he will be banging.

Good.
Nice Paintjob on the GI

To Sons Of Orar.... you have inspired me.... i am a amerature painter.... But i want to try my first space marine army... with the sons of orar scheme... i have never painted red before... and hardly any white... i need tips..... i will be starting my own post on my own Army... but i am trying to amp my standards to slightly above tabletop... i need help with: weathering, freehand painting, and others... i know you can help me brainstorm ideas.... your my SM hero... Theonly reason i know about SOA is because you, and you alone are the reason i am starting this army

I love those FW bolters.

Cant wait to get a few once I get some $$.

he SoO. on your big scale model i really miss mud on the boots i see mud all around him but not on his boots or pants. further more the freehand on the helmet looks sloppy IMHO it takes the models down on the cool scale. maybe you can patch this up. i love your work

This continues to be a lovely blog!

I am extremely happy to see such different subject matter. Clearly the larger scale introduces new challenges. I think the face would benefit from more intensity abd contrast for example, but I think I should paint a larger scale model for a change my self, to be more useful.

Thanks for sharing sir.

migs

Empchild wrote:Honestly, it's fairly solid for a first real large scale. The thing is with this I am guessing you are shooting for historically accurate so I would say you need to go a little lighter on the OD green fatigues. You have the webgear dead to rites. The skin could use a small amount more shade to it, and the upper receiver on the weapon is still a little bright for how they really are.

Great job on the stubble with the face and the helmet in general. I would say you’re about right there with him just a smudge more work, and he will be banging.

yeah I totally agree... I need to up the contrast generally...
and you have highlighted the only issue with painting historical figures... they have to be accurate!

fatty wrote:hey SoO. on your big scale model I really miss mud on the boots I see mud all around him but not on his boots or pants. furthermore the freehand on the helmet looks sloppy IMHO it takes the models down on the cool scale. maybe you can patch this up. I love your work

there is mud on the boots but not much... I’ve copied it from a photo and it seemed about right..

migsula wrote:This continues to be a lovely blog!

I am extremely happy to see such different subject matter. Clearly the larger scale introduces new challenges. I think the face would benefit from more intensity abd contrast for example, but I think I should paint a larger scale model for a change myself, to be more useful.

Thanks for sharing sir.

migs

as I said to empchild the contrast needs to be increased... the reason it's poor ATM is because, in terms of shading it received a couple of washes and a dry brush and that’s it! I think I should have spent a little longer that 6ish hours on it but I can make that up when I have time

and I’d definitely recommend having a go with some 120mm figures. have a look at the verlinden stuff... if your not to keen on painting green or beige fatigues they do some really nice Napoleonic stuff

thanks for the feedback!

Chris

How the hell did you do the smoke comming off the cigar?!! Thats awesome. Cotton wool fibres or sumthing?

Nice base too!

yup! spot on, just i teeny weeny bit of cotton wool

oke yeah i work alot in the mud that nasty stuff gets everywear.

It's look awesome dude!

And you should check out Tiger Stripe fatigues for future projects.

You continue to inspire me with your sweet skills. I do have one slight critique on your large scale soldier. I have never seen a silver on black m16. One could be customized but you didn't see any custom weapons back in Vietnam. It's just a slight critique, your mini still looks amazing. I just know m16's are generally all black.

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nice job! Can't wait to see your entire army of Son's Of Orar.

Moltar wrote:You continue to inspire me with your sweet skills. I do have one slight critique on your large scale soldier. I have never seen a silver on black m16. One could be customized but you didn't see any custom weapons back in Vietnam. It's just a slight critique, your mini still looks amazing. I just know m16's are generally all black.

Thats true, especially that time era. It would be all black, though the plastic part is shiny and the metal parts matte.

I have just spent the last hour looking through your plog and it got better with every page, the sons of orar are excellent and your gd entries were great aswell, bad luck on only one finalist but there is always next year. awesome

Moltar wrote:You continue to inspire me with your sweet skills. I do have one slight critique on your large scale soldier. I have never seen a silver on black m16. One could be customized but you didn't see any custom weapons back in Vietnam. It's just a slight critique, your mini still looks amazing. I just know m16's are generally all black.

dont know much about m16s but my stg77 WAS black as well,but after being...uhm...well used it had scratches and paint chipped off it was metal under the black.

I'm loving your work!

For your GI, fix the metallic barrel on his M16, , and possibly shade the fatiuges a bit more. Also, throw a unit patch on that bad boy. A 101st screaming eagle or a 173rd Airborne Brigade patch would really set the model off.

Moltar wrote:You continue to inspire me with your sweet skills. I do have one slight critique on your large scale soldier. I have never seen a silver on black m16. One could be customized but you didn't see any custom weapons back in Vietnam. It's just a slight critique, your mini still looks amazing. I just know m16's are generally all black.

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thanks for that, i'll get that fixed up

whalemusic360 wrote:

Moltar wrote:You continue to inspire me with your sweet skills. I do have one slight critique on your large scale soldier. I have never seen a silver on black m16. One could be customized but you didn't see any custom weapons back in Vietnam. It's just a slight critique, your mini still looks amazing. I just know m16's are generally all black.

Thats true, especially that time era. It would be all black, though the plastic part is shiny and the metal parts matte.

Not necessarily. They probably didn't start spraying the guns completely black until late in the war or after. The initial M16s that were given to troops were probably close to the way he has it painted on the model except maybe a little darker on the metal parts. The plastic was for sure black, but the metal color was closer to that of the aluminum it was made from.
The top most M16 in this picture is the earlier model fielded to troops. You can tell by the difference in the way the end of the barrel is with its three pronged flash suppressor.

i've gone back to table top standard for this chap and there'll be a painting tutorial for him as soon is have enough time to write it


first FW marine complete, this took under an hour

SoO


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the metallics on the gun need a bit more work :/

I feel inadequate.

That was under an hour? I am jealous... and eagerly awaiting that tutorial.

Wow, thats a beautiful veteran you've got there for your sons of orar. What's the name of that variant of gun? Your paint job and photos do the model more justice than the forgeworld website photos!

SONS of ORAR wrote:i've gone back to table top standard for this chap and there'll be a painting tutorial for him as soon is have enough time to write it


first FW marine complete, this took under an hour

SoO


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the metallics on the gun need a bit more work :/

good, because you know i need it
have you seen my thread that you inspired?
Feel proud of yourself...

WhiteWolf01 wrote:

whalemusic360 wrote:

Moltar wrote:You continue to inspire me with your sweet skills. I do have one slight critique on your large scale soldier. I have never seen a silver on black m16. One could be customized but you didn't see any custom weapons back in Vietnam. It's just a slight critique, your mini still looks amazing. I just know m16's are generally all black.

Thats true, especially that time era. It would be all black, though the plastic part is shiny and the metal parts matte.

Not necessarily. They probably didn't start spraying the guns completely black until late in the war or after. The initial M16s that were given to troops were probably close to the way he has it painted on the model except maybe a little darker on the metal parts. The plastic was for sure black, but the metal color was closer to that of the aluminum it was made from.
The top most M16 in this picture is the earlier model fielded to troops. You can tell by the difference in the way the end of the barrel is with its three pronged flash suppressor.

Actually, if you see those in RL they are black still, just not the same black as now. I have been around LE/Military arms my entire life and have only seen silver on AR family rifles on modern rifles as an aesthetic choice, most commonly on the barrel.


OT: Glad to see some more SoO, I was missing em

Pfft, tabletop my arse

I really love the mottled effect you get on your reds Chris, keep it up!!

Under an hour!? By gods thats insane!

Takes me ages to even do the first stage of my marines. Damn you! lol

Nah, your just a genious.

Keep them comming! Nought better than seeing a load of mini's getting finished.

WOW this thread is awesome! what happen to the priest of sigmar's fleurs?

Painting Battle Worn marines

remember to thin your paint


After a black undercoat the model was sprayed red. If you don't have an airbrush I’ll recommend a white or grey undercoat with a basecoat of blood red across the whole model. Note i have not glued the boltgun in place so i can paint it separately.


The white areas are then base coated with astronomican grey.


The red areas are washed with baal red and the white is highlighted with a mix of skull white and astronomican grey


The red is then highlighted and the areas where there are scuffs and scrapes on the armour with a mix (about 1:1:1:1) or blood red, mechrite red, blazing orange and bronzed flesh (dwarf flesh works if you don't have bronzed flesh)


More bronzed/dwarf flesh and blazing orange is added to the mix above so the ratio is now fleshrange:blood:mechrite 3:2:1:1


Metal areas are then picked out with boltgun metal.


The gold is base coated with tinbitz or a mix of scorched brown and shining gold. Then highlighted with shining gold.


A little mithril silver is added to the shining gold and used for a final highlight.
At this point you can highlight white areas white if you wish.


The freehand is planned out. Some people like to do a dot to dot, personally i use a series of thin lines


This is then filled out. This is a little wonky but it's only a table piece so doesn't matter really.


A mix of brown and black is lightly sponged on to create paint chips.


The model is washed liberally with devlan mud and gryphon sepia to simulate grime and muck.


The eyes are picked out in green and the model is based ready for battle.

SoO

Wow, thanks for the great tutorial SoO!

Great tutorial indeed!

The technique you use for the red armour is really brave, I always assume it would look to mental to do stuff like that, but I might have a wee go with it!

The muck splats with the sponge is a bit wierd for me. looks like felt tip pen or something, but the overall effect is great, especially with the heavy use of wash, I like that myself.

I think the airbrushing definately saves a lot of time, but it wouldnt help me as I like to leave some of the black primer showing through right to the end so it takes ages to paint the first stages of colour without filling all the crevases. Might start trying completely different ways of painting on scrap models or random models I feel like buying for the experiment.

First of all, I've been following this blog for a while and I absolutely love your work.

And thank you so much for the tutorial! I was planning on doing a battle damaged BA army soon, and this tutorial fits what I was planning to do almost exactly. Plus it's easy to follow, quick, and to the point.

So thanks for being so freaking awesome!

Thanks for the tutorial. I'm sure it will work with other armies to if you change the colours slightly.

cool tutorial, i think your painting style on these is really john blanche esq! really cool

Newt-Of-Death wrote:Great tutorial indeed!

The technique you use for the red armour is really brave, I always assume it would look to mental to do stuff like that, but I might have a wee go with it!

The muck splats with the sponge is a bit wierd for me. looks like felt tip pen or something, but the overall effect is great, especially with the heavy use of wash, I like that myself.

I think the airbrushing definately saves a lot of time, but it wouldnt help me as I like to leave some of the black primer showing through right to the end so it takes ages to paint the first stages of colour without filling all the crevases. Might start trying completely different ways of painting on scrap models or random models I feel like buying for the experiment.

it's the pro way of doing quick paint chips... it's not muck lol... FW use it all the time though it looks best on tanks...

Really awesome tutorial SoO, you've nailed that war torn effect..

Love the Veteran, ive just finished putting my custom stearnguard together, pictures on my dakka blog tomorrow.

can i ask where you got the weapons are they the FW one??

Jim..

Love it. Almost ready to start my own sons of orar series. THis rips. Great work. Jobs a good un.

Sons of SAUCE!

Cool. Go for the none GW stuff as well I'd love to see what you do with an Avatars of War or Malifaux figure!

jimmy72nd wrote:Really awesome tutorial SoO, you've nailed that war torn effect..

Love the Veteran, ive just finished putting my custom stearnguard together, pictures on my dakka blog tomorrow.

can i ask where you got the weapons are they the FW one??

Jim..

great! i'll have a look at it

the marine itself is FW as is the bolter. i believe they are the Umbra Ferrox pattern.

i found a pic from another dakkarite bellow

Sweet bolters.

I'm new to Dakka and Inanimate mentioned to check out your work -- and holy cow, I've been browsing your work for about half an hour now and it's all amazing! I'm currently planning and building a White Scars army as I'm getting back into 40k and I've been looking for fairly simple but effective battle worn techniques and this one wins out hands down. It looks great and realistic and your work really brings out the reasoning behind "lots of thin layers" instead of a thick basecoat with drybrushed highlights.

Great work! I love what you did with the land raider too, by the way, it's fantastic! And this "table top standard" miniature was painted in less than an hour??? You're very inspiring!

How long has it taken you to get to this level??

I second all that was posted in the above.
You do great work. i am thinking of selling my 5000pts of marines and restarting with all the bells and whistles that are now available via forgeworld and the other web suppliers. Sons of orar was my first pick of chapters to paint and this is so inspiring.

Calvinus wrote:I'm new to Dakka and Inanimate mentioned to check out your work -- and holy cow, I've been browsing your work for about half an hour now and it's all amazing! I'm currently planning and building a White Scars army as I'm getting back into 40k and I've been looking for fairly simple but effective battle worn techniques and this one wins out hands down. It looks great and realistic and your work really brings out the reasoning behind "lots of thin layers" instead of a thick basecoat with drybrushed highlights.

Great work! I love what you did with the land raider too, by the way, it's fantastic! And this "table top standard" miniature was painted in less than an hour??? You're very inspiring!

How long has it taken you to get to this level??

well... i'm 17 now and i started painting properly when i was about 14 or 15... before that it was as you say... base-coat and dry-brush and little else...

Your work is excellent. A real great job with the weathering....everyhting looks professional

My Friend, I LOVE YOURE LUGFT HURON! It is looking amazing, and judging by th esewwt detail abd bleding on the legs, its going to look spectacular finished. Please keep us updated on him! Oh, and a plinth instead of just a base would greatly imrove your showcase models.

i'm selling this model on ebay if any of you are interested





here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320604402834&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

SoO

Thats class!

Blue tongue and all! The base is brilliant like, and all the dust throughout the model is really well done.

When did you paint that?

i did this about 14 months ago i think.. and thanks it was just a quick model really and the base was a rather successful experiment

I wonder how much it will sell for O.o

Only 9 pounds (15 bucks)????? If I hadn't been at my soccer (fine, "football") game, I would have bought that even though I don't play orks. That would have been a rather disappointing price for me if I was the one selling the mini. Oh well, as long as you're happy!

Yea, I thought it wasnt a new one cuz of the techniques you have been using more recently.

Did you use any weathering powder or is that all paint and sand and stuff? You SoO landraider has weathering powder effects doesnt it?

Its a pretty intreguing substance for me!

Now that is a warboss! (I like the subtle change in the way the head is facing)

brother_zach wrote:I'm loving your work!

For your GI, fix the metallic barrel on his M16, , and possibly shade the fatiuges a bit more. Also, throw a unit patch on that bad boy. A 101st screaming eagle or a 173rd Airborne Brigade patch would really set the model off.

7th Cav all the way!
And if you do end up patching him, make sure it's subdued. Please.

How're the Sons of Orar going?

hey all sorry for no updates recently I’ve been really busy with college stuff etc. but I’ll be posting again as soon as I can... in the mean time I’ve assembled all my FW space marines which shall soon be ready to join the ranks of the Sons of Orar... Pictures coming soon

Chris

Sweet cant wait to see them ^_^

AMAZING work on your FW SM. ive started doing my DA again after ive never had the time to in the past few months. im trying to avoid painting until i get FW model masterclass, and then practice on older models, though ill never get to your standard. shame to hear about GD, but good luck anyway in the future and next GD.

*in voice of that dude whose in virtually every Adam Sandler movie*

YOU CAN DO IT!

hi all!

i'm (unfortunately) having to sell my leman russ on ebay so if you're interested go to: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320620590866#ht_500wt_1156


this is the one

updates will be coming when i have the time

SoO

The russ look great , how did you paint the armour and the plasma coils , i might have to buy that XD as always your stuff looks good , keep up the good work

'claw

Dude, you should honestly start the bidding at a higher price or else you're going to get a low price like you did for that amazing ork. Good luck getting some good cash for it!

Why are you having to sell it??

Lots of good stuff, and your paint skills are pretty stellar!
I'm jelly

I think you got a slightly better price for your Russ thany our Orc Warboss. Ive just read through the entire blog and your work is amasing.

How much did it sell for?

WillFrost wrote:How much did it sell for?

£43.52, if you click the ebay link you can see the final price.

any more progress SofO?

Anything new yet?

Hey bud,

Love that Ork warboss hes sick, looks like a propa Marine killer....lol

Ive added the pics of my sternguard to my blog, there 2 squads one kit bashed from Death company bodys and other bitz and 1 squad in the FW Mk V Heresy Armour with those Umbra Ferrox boltguns...

Thanks again for telling me where to get the guns..

Merry xmas..

Jim

Nice turtorial, oh i know its an old post but great termie chaplain! mine is not half as good.../

Anything new?

Wow SONS OF ORAR how did I miss your thread!!! I love the dark weathered look of all your models I always pictured 40k dark like how Rougue Trader put it. Your work reminds me of John Blanch too keep it coming.

i would love to seee more! haha its a great thread

Read the entire blog over the last two days.

Your stuff is so impressive. You've done an amazing job with your weathering, painting and sculpting. I love your thought process on your army, really cool ideas that are very fun and well executed. You've inspired me to get back into 40K after a 10 year hiatus.

subscribed!

Welcome back and welcome to dakka then, Tristan!

GreyDeathOne wrote: Wow SONS OF ORAR how did I miss your thread!!! I love the dark weathered look of all your models I always pictured 40k dark like how Rougue Trader put it. Your work reminds me of John Blanch too keep it coming.

Qft indeed..

great work, keep it up!

you dont even have to post piccys!
JUST TELL US ITS STILL ALIVE!!!! PLLLEASSSEE

Go on Chris, show us something new, ye know ye want to!!

Heaven above! it's been a while since i was on here blogging! anyhow... i've been snow under with college work and exams etc. but i've managed to fit in a bit of modelling time, though it has been very little... i'm currently working on a 1 35 scale WWII king tiger tank and taking a break from warhammer for a couple of months and practising some techniques on some other non-GW models for the experience. though i'll probs get some of the new plastic grey knights when the come out they look very tasty

i'm not sure whether i should post my king tiger stuff on here, it being a predominately a 40k forum s if you wish to see progress on it please post on this thread saying you do and i will

all the best, Chris

He returns! Looking forward to updates, man.

Might as well give some sort of dupdate, otherwise they might frenzy like sharks and bite off your legs or something....