Hi everyone,

We are a small start-up company trying to get into the wargaming terrain market.

These are our first steps but we already have some buildings to show and really big plans for the future, depending of course on the levels of interest from the community.

We are starting with SCI-FI terrains for 28mm scale - mainly because Infinity is becoming more popular within our gaming group - but the bigger picture will accomodate any scale and any period. Flames of War, Malifaux, Kensei, WH40K and even boardgames like Sergeants or Samurai Battles you name it. We want to be there to provide more spark for your favorite hobby.

One of our main goals is to keep all these nice buildings and terrain pieces at reasonable prices that's why at the beginning we are going to produce stuff from 3mm HDF and also stiff cardboard with different thicknesses, all of which will be laser-cut.



Our main page is still under construction but if you want to express your interest, comment or just to have a look what we're up to please follow us on our facebook page https://www.facebook.com/zenterrain

Hope to see you soon in our e-store.

Very nice.

Please do keep us informed as you progress

These are very nice, but at the same time it's just more mdf/hdf terrain. You need to get something different out there other then said material. I want some sci-fi terrain with curves andd round edges on it instead of blocky terrain. Very nice looking though and you will need a low competitive price for these.

I want some sci-fi terrain with curves andd round edges on it instead of blocky terrain.

Thanks for the comment overtyrant.
Although HDF could be quite limiting in it's use it is also very cheap and durable, we are planning more complex buildings with curvature / chamfers in the future.
We want to stretch this material to it's limits to keep the prices competitive.

Please watch this space for future releases.

As time goes by lots of new small companies show up, that's very good!
Good luck and I'll agree with overtyrant, you'll need to do something very competitive price-wise.

I like the designs, but would like to see some painted examples, if only to see how all those engraved lines look once paint goes over them...

I like the designs, but would like to see some painted examples, if only to see how all those engraved lines look once paint goes over them...

Thanks for the comment insaniak - I hope you would be happy to know that the available models are in the process of painting by our talented buddy painter, so please watch this space...

As for the engraved lines - those aren't really engraved they are quite deep cuts which speeds up the process of getting the parts out of HDF, and I'm sure they will be clearly visible after painting over.

We have also realised that not all of you might want to visit the facebook page so I will post some more images of our products to get some more feedback from you.


Futuristic Chapel dims for scale comparison,


and the back of it.


Shipping container dims.


Finished product - part 3mm HDF part 2mm stiff cardboard.


Medical Bay dims.


Finished product.


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And two new buildings.


Military watchtower and modular fence dims.


Finished product.


Military outpost dims.


Finished product.

For more pics and description please visit https://www.facebook.com/zenterrain

We will be updating you also on what is in the works at the moment.

First update:


A crablike hoist for your shipping containers!!
With amazing movable hoist lifters and turning dome!!

And that's just the civilian version....

See you soon.

That is quite nice - I eagerly await the opportunity to purchase one.

Or two.

Or three, or...

More updates on what's in the pipeline...



Are your buildings too blocky and boring?
Upgrade them with that nice Conversion Kit.

Military outpost - very nice!

Conversion Kit - must have!

Nice looking buildings there.

Depending on prices and so forth i can see some of those making their way onto my battlefield

Thank you guys for your comments - always gives a boost too work some more.

We aim to have our store at http://www.zenterrain.com up and running at the end of this month.

We are also hard at work to have as much stuff for you to pick from as humanely (dwarfly, orcly and elfishly) possible at the store opening.

So without further ado another update from our designers desk....



Military barrack / hi-tech tent

Also tonight (GMT time of course) we will probably have one of the buildings painted up so there will be another update today or tomorrow.

Cheers guys.

Great looking stuff. Always good to see more companies entering the terrain business!

Awesome stuff. I´d like the windows of the chapel in acrylics, please! :-)

Funny, your medical bay looks exactly like the medlab I made for Deadzone!

Funny, your medical bay looks exactly like the medlab I made for Deadzone!

I hope you like it then...it was the first building we designed.

Awesome stuff. I´d like the windows of the chapel in acrylics, please! :-)

We plan to make upgrade kits for some of the buildings to replace details with acrylics - but this material ain't cheap - we're searching for supplier that can serve us small amounts of it (for starters).

Cheers guys.

Brilliant stuff. Whilst there is already a ton of good terrain I would like to buy, the chapel and crab-robot have just gone right to the top of the list.

Hi guys and girls.

As promised earlier and requested by some of you we can proudly present our first professionally painted buiding.

Do enjoy.





For more pictures please visit our facebook page https://www.facebook.com/zenterrain

Hi there.

After a period of inactivity we can update you on what's fresh on our side of things.

We've put together prototypes for Crab, Tent and Conversion Kit and will soon post pics of it.

Also there is going to be a military version of the Crab...



The stuff that is absolutely new is a basic resi building (which means it's going to be cheap - around 8€ a pop).



You will also be able buy it in packs of 3 (cheaper - around 20€ per pack).

Because you can stack them.





And if you go bananas - you can do something like this.




Please visit our facebook page https://www.facebook.com/zenterrain and if you like what we do, don't forget to share.

Nice

I need a few hab blocks for a good block-war/gang smackdown.

I play a lot of Necromunda so these may be just what i need.

Any idea when you'll have these available for sale?

Regarding your poll, I'll give you the Zen answer:

I want what I want.

Regarding the poll: I can't answer that question. I thought about it, and I honestly can't answer it.

Simple buildings are great...when they are done well. A poorly designed laser cut building can look like a total POS.

On the other hand, I don't want to spend hours and hours assembling an overly complex building, and once a laser cut building gets up to the $50+ range, there had better be something special about it. Once the price point gets up that high (depending on the size of the structure and all) you're entering competition with plastic and resin buildings.

MDF terrain generally competes on price. It is fill your table terrain, not make everyone jealous terrain.

That said, your pieces look nice. The painted building is done well. Those pillars 'holding up' the balcony are going to get destroyed in storage though. They aint gonna last long freestanding like that.

With laser cut terrain, you've really got to use the medium well. One of my absolute favorite laser cut buildings is this building from 4Ground. The design that you have in the railing of your painted building is also a good example. It is a nice design element that works well with the medium.

It makes fantastic use of the medium. It assembles in about half an hour, it doesn't require painting, it looks great, it is unique, and it is cheap.

Obviously you won't be making buildings like that, but my point is that this type of building takes advantages of the medium's strengths rather than highlighting its weaknesses. This is what the best laser cut buildings do in my opinion. It doesn't make the piece structurally weak, it adds a nice aesthetic touch that is consistent with the overall theme of the piece, it isn't a detail that can be easily added in a different medium, and the slots look small enough to not look really wonky if you can't get paint onto all of the interior surfaces.

Any idea when you'll have these available for sale?

We are aiming to open our shop by the end of August / beginning of September and will let you know as soon as everything works ok.

once a laser cut building gets up to the $50+ range

We're not going to be even close to that. That why at the beginning we want to use MDF/HDF/stiff cardboard. For example the hab should be around $10, if you buy in a bundle of 3 it should be around $27.
Honestly I think the highest price point we are going to get is around $35.

MDF terrain generally competes on price. It is fill your table terrain, not make everyone jealous terrain.

Yes we understand that but we strive to make nice buildings for a reasonable price, so you get the best of the both worlds.

Those pillars...aint gonna last long freestanding like that

That's why we make prototypes first - the final building will have some sort of strengthening around those pillars.

One of my absolute favorite laser cut buildings is this building from 4Ground

Yes that is a nice building but I wonder about transportation and storage though, it looks a bit on the fragile side of things.

As they say in latin 'de gustibus non est disputandum' so everyone has they favorites.

Thank you for such a long answer it really helps us to get better at what we do. I urge everyone to post such in depth thoughts, we want to involve you in the stuff we do. Remember we are gamers as well.

Soon we will post the pictures of barrack model which is our most detailed to date - and as it was a prototype it took couple of hours and swearing to assemble - that's why it got a complete overhaul.
It looks almost the same as the prototype but will be much, much easier to assemble. We will post pictures of the new design along with the prototype.

I was worried the 4Ground building would be fragile as well, but at 20 bucks I figured it was worth a shot. It is more delicate than my other buildings, but it holds up remarkably well.

My terrain tends to get put through lots of abuse. Between drunk players and frequent setup changes/transportation the terrain pieces take quite a few knocks. But that's fine in my opinion. Terrain is for playing, and if it gets played with, it is going to suffer some rough handling. It is inevitable. You should be able to drop a terrain piece on the floor, pick it up, keep playing with it, and fix it later with some glue.

Terrain like yours make me excited to play infinity again.

Terrain like yours make me excited to play infinity again.

Thanks, comments like yours makes me want to design more cool stuff for you guys.

Anyway it's time for the promised pictures (well some of them at least).

Here is the prototype barrack.





And here is the redesigned model.





We have also done the conversion kit which can be used with our HAB 1 models.

Great stuff, hopefully an easy inexpensive way of filling an infinity board!

I'm also looking at Drop Zone Cmmndr... Any plans for kits at that sort of scale?

I might pick some of this up for a 40k cityscape. Normally I'm not a big fan of MDF terrain, but I really like what you have going on here!

Thank you for all your comments.

As for

Drop Zone Cmmndr... Any plans for kits at that sort of scale?

We do have long term plans to go into most popular scales (I think maybe only 6mm is outside of HDF cutting possibilities) so please stay tuned.

Time for the promised update on the 'Crab' hoist.

Here is the prototype:







Final model will be slightly redesigned to stiffen the structure and to simplify assembly.

Given the medium, that looks absolutely fantastic. What's the price point likely to be?

 ZenTerrain wrote:
Time for the promised update on the 'Crab' hoist.

Here is the prototype:







Final model will be slightly redesigned to stiffen the structure and to simplify assembly.

Well of course it's a walking eye! The benefits of a walking eye are many and clear!

Cool design, but it really *should* be a hexapod A quadruped with that limb layout would have a very hard time moving without toppling over, much less if was carrying cargo...

Still, cool stuff. Can't wait to visit the webstore when it comes online...

Valete,

JohnS

Cool design, but it really *should* be a hexapod A quadruped with that limb layout would have a very hard time moving without toppling over, much less if was carrying cargo...

I hope in the distant future they invent something like gyroscopes and self-levelling servomachines ;-)

Joking aside, we're hard at work administering our webstore and it takes a bit longer than we would like. Until it opens the new designs will show up sporadically, but to sweeten up the wait there will some promotions during the opening. One of which will be a free strictly limited and numbered model for the first 50 registered buyers. We will show the model design soon.

Cheers

Greetings.

We had a little break from the forums working hard on our web store and (fingers crossed) it should be open this week.

As I've mentioned before there will be 47 free robot models for first customers (pictures below) all with unique numbers.









There were supposed to be 50 but one (No.50) stays with us and No.1 and No.2 will be given away on Facebook - due to a misprint they can only be assembled in a closed version. One is going to a foreign fan and one to polish fan - be on the lookout for posts, they should be coming soon.

Nice to hear the webstore will be up soon. Will you be taking PayPal?

Yes Paypal will be available.

My problem with MDF is that it always looks so boxy. You can immediately tell it's MDF, and that's a bit offputting. Curved bits to break up the silhouette are essential. Your barrack is a great example of this, with a relatively small detail like the curved roof supports making it a lot more appealing.

Wow, that's some really cool stuff! It would go well with Infinity.

Check out www.data-sphere.net, where the Infinity community looks for their terrain needs (official forums only allow official partners to post).

I'm sure it's appreciated if you show it off there!

We can proudly announce that our webstore is now live - please come and visit us.

Excellent news - I hope you guys do really well. You might want to put a link to the website into your sig to encourage casual clickers,

Is there any way you can look at getting cheaper shipping? I was going to order the upgrade kit as an initial foray but I'm afraid the shipping has made it somewhat cost-prohibitive for me.

Is there any way you can look at getting cheaper shipping?

We will look into it for smaller orders.

Keep an eye out.

I've placed my first order, looking forward to getting painting. As above, a postage reduction would help future orders flow

Good luck for the future

I've placed my first order, looking forward to getting painting.

Thank you for your support - we're producing the stuff and will ship it as soon as it's ready.

A little update on what you can expect soon in the store.



Also some experimentation we did with flexible material



Still needs to go through painting session to see how it's holding up against a couple of layers of washes and such.

Some really nice stuff there, but shipping is a bit on the spendy side.

Another idea would be to have the prices convert along with the language marker, because otherwise you need a currency converter up to check prices, which might put folk off.

Might make an order nonetheless, but figuring in the shipping could be a pain, especially figuring for a shifting exchange rate....

Another idea would be to have the prices convert along with the language marker, because otherwise you need a currency converter up to check prices, which might put folk off.

Thank you for the suggestion, I've added USD and GBP and you can choose it to check prices and pay in your preferred currency.

but figuring in the shipping could be a pain, especially figuring for a shifting exchange rate....

If you want to make an order the entry level is a bit steep but it scales better with bigger orders.

Will see how things go and maybe in the future we will offer free shipping with bigger orders (something in the area of 350$).

I like the apartments they have a nice design to them and are reasonably priced. The postage to the UK is pretty pricey though at least for small orders to try the product. Means I would probably go for some of the other UK based MDF Sci Fi terrain sellers because for the price of the shipping I could probably get an extra building.

Still wish you guys the best of luck and if I get the cash to put down an order that makes the shipping worth while I will certainly look into ording from you.

The postage to the UK is pretty pricey though at least for small orders to try the product.

I will add cheaper shipping for smaller orders soon.

We've added cheaper shipping for smaller orders - please check it out if you were thinking about getting a sample.

Also we have a question for you:

Which one do you prefer?

TBH they are both great.

I like the left one slightly more though.

 ZenTerrain wrote:
We've added cheaper shipping for smaller orders - please check it out if you were thinking about getting a sample.

Also we have a question for you:

Which one do you prefer?

I like the one with the Poke Ball door (right one)

The web store looks great, ZenTerrain, and the prices are excellent.

I can see why people would complain about shipping costs, but I imagine you'd get a lot of 3mm HDF in a Kilo. So get the most for your money folks, and buy all the things!

When my Infinity starter set arrives, I'll be throwing some money your way.

Not as much as you'd like.

MDF is heavy.

I'll likely still be making an order when my paycheck rolls around though

I prefer the left one personally.

Another vote for the left one.

stop voting for the left one!

No pokeballs for you piston.

We can poke him in the left one...

Why is it if you click the American Flag the costs are in Euros? Small parcel shipping prices arent bad, but you're screwed if you want to order a bunch

 Ascalam wrote:
Not as much as you'd like.

MDF is heavy.

I'll likely still be making an order when my paycheck rolls around though

SHHHH!

I'm trying to convince myself it's steal of deal!

I got paid on Monday. I'll see what's left after Icestorm, another set of card O:I bits from Shae-Konnit and building a gaming table... Oh and moving house

Why is it if you click the American Flag the costs are in Euros? Small parcel shipping prices arent bad, but you're screwed if you want to order a bunch

The flag is just to determine the website language.
As I've mentioned before I've added more currencies so you can view the prices in your native moneys (there are 3 to choose from).

I know the shipping is a bit on the pricey side but to be completely honest with you, other companies hide their shipping costs in their product price. I'd opted for cheaper products.
On top of that I absolutely make no money whatsoever on the shipping it all goes to the courier. The thing is cost can drop only where there is a certain amount of parcels sent every month, I'm at the beginning of my venture and I cannot guarantee that I make such an amount to the courier - so the answer is - the more you buy from me the cheaper the shipping will become.

Thanks for checking the site anyway - we will be expanding our range soon enough so please pop in form time to time.

Isn't it possible to, for example, team up with another manufacturer and combine your order volumes to cut a deal with a shipping provider? I have no idea how these things work, just throwing it out there

I saw on your website that you have a 10mm category. As an avid Dropzone Commander fan, I'm excited to see more companies trying to get into that market. As it is, there are only very few and prices are somewhat high because there's little competition.

As some input, some futuristic, but non-art deco buildings would be nice. Also some non-standard buildings such as stadiums, elevated roadways or such would be something not yet offered by any of the other 10mm MDF manufacturers.

 ZenTerrain wrote:

Why is it if you click the American Flag the costs are in Euros? Small parcel shipping prices arent bad, but you're screwed if you want to order a bunch

The flag is just to determine the website language.
As I've mentioned before I've added more currencies so you can view the prices in your native moneys (there are 3 to choose from).

I know the shipping is a bit on the pricey side but to be completely honest with you, other companies hide their shipping costs in their product price. I'd opted for cheaper products.
On top of that I absolutely make no money whatsoever on the shipping it all goes to the courier. The thing is cost can drop only where there is a certain amount of parcels sent every month, I'm at the beginning of my venture and I cannot guarantee that I make such an amount to the courier - so the answer is - the more you buy from me the cheaper the shipping will become.

Thanks for checking the site anyway - we will be expanding our range soon enough so please pop in form time to time.

I work for a company that audits shipping (IE fedex ups etc). We recently expanded into Europe. You need to create a shipping profile with one of the shippers available and then negotiate the contract. The reason companies "Hide" shipping costs, is because they are able to negotiate those prices out.

EDIT: just read more thoroughly I understand you now

We've got the prototype done - the flyer will be available in both versions (in one box you'll get both options for one model). There will be plastic sheet and acrylic windows available as an add-on (probably different colors as well).

News from the front - first sets of base overlays will soon be available for ordering in separate packs of 5 x 25mm, 2 x 40mm and 2 x 55mm.

Little teaser



Other patterns will become available soon.

We've also put to the test a corridor / self supporting bridge system that we will expand with new sections in due course.



That will become a fully fledged corridor system with all sorts of junctions, rooms and doors all modular and simple to rearrange.



The straight sections can support themselves to form a bridge and can be connected and disconnected at will (no glue needed) to span longer or shorter distances. We will be testing T-junctions and cross junctions to see if they can work as a self supporting bridges.

Some elements will also be available in acrylics.

Our beloved national Post has graced us with a new shipping options for foreign parcels - we will try to update our shipping costs within a week or so - it should cut the prices for packages up to 2 kilos in half.

Please stay tuned.

We have worked out the design for our corridor system / self-supporting bridge which now includes all that you need to make your own SCI-FI dungeon crawler type of game. That's not the end though as we will expand it with rooms and possibility to go vertically as well, stay tuned.





Also we would urge you to share our stuff if you really like it - it will help us to get more recognition which in turn will allow us to put out more stuff for you in the future.

Base overlays are now available in the webstore.

Street furniture set No.1 will soon hit the store. There will be more coming after that.

I like this stuff. I eagerly await what you'll come up with next.

Cheaper shipping worldwide is now in effect.

Packages up to 2 kg had been revised - they are treated as letters by the post so it might take a few days more to ship - in return some of the prices were cut almost in half.

Packages over 2 kg are treated as parcels - quicker shipping but also pricier.

You can check shipping prices on our website under 'Shipping' tab.

Enjoy.

Street set No.1 i out of prototype stage and soon will be available in the store.

Nice! When I start stocking my table I will have to get some of this!

Any plans to expand on the amount of base variants?

Any plans to expand on the amount of base variants?

What do you mean by base variants?

*edit: Oh you meant overlays - yes we do have plans to expand on those.

Just wanted to say I appreciate the bundles you do. The Hab bundle especially as they are likley things you would want several of.

Separately they come too £19.71 but the bundle deal is £16.89 a two quid saving for buying a few at once isn't a bad deal at all.

Have neither the cash or the space atm but when I have both I think I will put in an order. They look like they would go well with the micro art studio stuff too so you can get plenty of vareity on the table.

What other plans do you have for buildings?

Personally not a fan of the semi clear acrylic for the benches, would they be available in pure MDF? If not does the clear acrylic take paint well?

Great looking terrain.

I'm really impressed with the crab model, especially the military versions

Personally not a fan of the semi clear acrylic for the benches, would they be available in pure MDF?

The acrylic material is clear (like 98% or thereabouts) maybe it's not showing on the pictures properly. We're not considering making it in HDF only but I'm pretty sure you can paint over the acrylics (but why would you ;-)) as it is pretty much like any other plastic out there.

What other plans do you have for buildings?

There will be a few new ones (small) coming for the street set range. I'll post a few pics soon. We will also expand on the HAB range adding bigger base buildings and adding some variations to the old range.

I'm really impressed with the crab model, especially the military versions

Thank you. Please give us a bit more time before it becomes available online.

I say semi clear because it's obviously coloured so not completely clear. The reason I would want to paint over it is translucent benches wouldn't really go with the look I want for my table. That's just a personal choice though.

Sounds good, especially the hab expansion. I like the hab concept a lot, the ability to make one big building or several small ones is a great idea.

We've got some fast food stall design for you.

Thats awesome.

Street furniture set is available in the store.

Are you planning on making a few different versions of the street stall? like a some with seats like noodle bars some without seats more like market stalls and with different signs?

During the Polish Team Championship in ITS INFINITY there was a table sponsored by us. You can see it in all its glory below.

Are you planning on making a few different versions of the street stall? like a some with seats like noodle bars some without seats more like market stalls and with different signs?

We don't know yet but most probably.

amazing stuff. saved your website to bookmark

I've been meaning to ask but wasn't sure it was worth a thread in P&M:

How well does hot glue work for holding MDF constructs together? I've been using regular white PVA glue, but for some structures it takes forever to dry and the buildings fall out of shape before it's done. Would hot glue / glue gun be better?

I really, really like the recent food stand. I need a protectotron to go inside it though...

I have not tried hot glue, but I expect it would be pretty poor.

I use wood glue and that works well. Bit of a slow dry as well, but good bond formed. And you can get it really easily at Home Depot or even some craft stores.

 streamdragon wrote:
How well does hot glue work for holding MDF constructs together? I've been using regular white PVA glue, but for some structures it takes forever to dry and the buildings fall out of shape before it's done. Would hot glue / glue gun be better?

Hot glue is a pain and doesn't bond very well to both sides. It will usually bond to one side but cool too fast to bond to the other side, leaving a residue that can pull parts of the MDF off.

For MDF I tend to use wood glue. Put a glob onto a palette and use a brush to paint on a thin layer to what I am gluing. If the glue was too thick and seeps out, smooth with the brush or your finger. Then any excess can be sanded off fairly easily. Then clean the brush with water/paint thinner/alcohol.

It's a transportation company building / dice tower.
The elevator works, is open-able and fits both 25mm and 40mm figs.
Hopefully we will do a prototype next week.

It's very cool looking. I almost expect it to transform into an autobot.

Yeah, I want that for my Infinity table!

Nicely done!

Wow, my buddies and I were just talking about dice towers!

I may have to pick that up at some point.

Pulled the trigger on a bunch of base tops for my PanO. Looking forward to painting them up!

Thank you for the positive reaction to our last project. We will push for the prototype as soon as possible.

Today something smaller - a guard booth and a barrier.

Very nice.

Kind of impressed that you made the security gate functional, with it's ability to slide back and forth

We've done the prototype for the dice tower / landing pad. It is dry fitted for the time being.







Hope you guys like it as much as we do

That is really impressive looking.

It is a sniper heaven up there, but who cares?

I love it!

Any idea on when it will be available?

Even if you have an ARO in infinity, being up high still means you're exposed to more incoming fire.

Nice!

Bigger buildings are definitely something lacking in I terrain.

Not usually a fan of dice towers as they usually look exactly like dice towers but that looks great.

Food stall is ready to go online.

That is beautiful. It is amazing how much detail you get on your creations

Speaking of food carts.

Id love to see a future taco truck

Guard booth is painted up and ready to go.

Stuff that will soon hit the store...

Nice! On the bridge, what is the width of the gap (or width of your HDF) and how deep is it?

what is the width of the gap (or width of your HDF) and how deep is it?

The width internally is 55mm (between pillars is 51mm) and length is 80mm. Those are the dimensions for one module. The slot is 3mm wide and 20mm high.

What are the sizes of the landing pad/dice tower, and the bridges?

What are the sizes of the landing pad/dice tower, and the bridges?

The width internally is 55mm (between pillars is 51mm) and length is 80mm. Those are the dimensions for one module. The slot is 3mm wide and 20mm high.

Height of a module is around 63mm.

As for the dice tower it's a complicated building but in the extremes it's 185mm wide, 240mm high and 355mm long.

A little update of what is on the designers desk...it's motorbikes...

Wow this stuff is really top notch, as soon as that Dice Tower/Landing Pad goes on sale I'm definetly picking one up, that would be a really cool centerpiece for an infinity table
That corridor set would be really neat for a totally indoor game, you don't get to see very many of those.

Hey Zen Terrain, on your website it states "For first 47 customers, free robot." What is that all about? I'm just curious as when my bank comes back online I want to buy a guard tower.

 Stormwall wrote:
Hey Zen Terrain, on your website it states "For first 47 customers, free robot." What is that all about? I'm just curious as when my bank comes back online I want to buy a guard tower.

I got some base toppers earlier (they're very cool!) and it came with a free little robot. A three-legged walker that is pretty intricately made. I can't find it on their site though to show you...

Hi, the bonus robot (there is only few of them left) is on page 2 in this thread if you want to have a look.

Aha!



didn't know they were so limited and numbered. Now I gotta see what number I got!

See, I would buy but, my bank literally isn't displaying how much money I have. It is actually worrying...

Had a chance to meet the owner during our Infinity tournament in Warsaw. Great guy. I'll be posting some photos of a table he brought for us sometime in the future.

That food stand is amazing, well played sir. Love the vehicles too.

There was yet another tournament in Poland in which we have provided a table full of our buildings. Many thanks to the organizers and congratulations to the winners.

I've already ordered before... just waiting for the Dice Tower to put up before I made another order though.

Great terrain, will have to add some to my collection soon. Looks like it will go well Sarissa, Warwill, Systema and the like. I'd like to see more pieces like the barracks building. Maybe an armory or holding cell.

Another bike from the set is ready to roll...

This little one finishes the bike set.

When can we expect the dice tower and the bikes to be on your site? Can't wait to place an order, but I definitely want the dice tower!

I like what I see!

Actually this is god damn amazing! This is allot better then what FW or GW produces!

When can we expect the dice tower and the bikes to be on your site?

We will try to put up the Dice Tower next week. As for the bikes not sure yet.

I like what I see!

Thanks, there'll be more where that's coming from.

A set of modular planters will enhance our urban environment space creators range.

A single straight module for the modular bridge is available in the store now (contains a pair of stairs)

As for the news there should be a set of doors for the modular bridge available soon.

Would you like plants in the sets or rather pass?

First of base buildings from HAB range in design stage. Interior will be available as an add-on.

That is one seriously cool piece of terrain. Me wants! The steps to the roof feel too large though.

Will there be alternative banners or possibility of a plain one to paint your own?

The steps are slightly oversized to fit the 40mm based figures.

As for the banners, there might be a possibility for a blank one.

The Dice Tower is available in the store at last!

Seriously great stuff. Your design are much more inspired than any other laser cut terrain I've seen.

I love the bar.

Bad is great, except no bathroom

...no bathroom

It was either that or the catwalk. The choice was obvious.

On the other hand first batch of prototypes from last projects has landed.

Could always sculpt up a porta-pot or two...

Nice looking stuff, as always

The bar is shaping up...

Great design and presentation of your product and craft.

You have my business!

Will the bar be available in that time period?

Will the bar be available in that time period?

We will try but I wouldn't hold my breath, it's pretty busy time right now.

I don't know its it there and I cant read it but could you have a option to change languages,just so I know about prices and shipping info because I don't speak polish, but your product looks really cool and I think I want some.

This is great stuff!!!!!!

 e.earnshaw wrote:
I don't know its it there and I cant read it but could you have a option to change languages,just so I know about prices and shipping info because I don't speak polish, but your product looks really cool and I think I want some.

Left hand side of the screen below the part that has the scales has the following.

Język / Language

below that their are two flags. Click the American one and it will translate to English.

e.earnshaw wrote:
I don't know its it there and I cant read it but could you have a option to change languages,just so I know about prices and shipping info because I don't speak polish, but your product looks really cool and I think I want some.



Left hand side of the screen below the part that has the scales has the following.

Język / Language

below that their are two flags. Click the American one and it will translate to English.

Yes, that.
And also you can choose the currency which suits you best just below the language bar (out of 4 at the moment).

That bar is utterly fantastic btw. Its on the to buy list for sure.

I'd never go in that bar...everybody in there is brandishing guns!

Lol

I'm definitely looking into the bar and dice tower to flesh out my table next year after my AW KS arrives.

Yours is the first dice tower that I actually like and isn't obviously a dice tower.

Can you get the inside bar stuff separately.. in case I want to add another bar on the roof

Can you get the inside bar stuff separately...

Yes the exterior and interior will be sold separately.

There is a bulwark system in the works at the moment to make your own military base.







And even the watchtower fits...



Also a set of order tokens will also be available soon.

The base looks nice, might be enough to push into a purchase I've been contemplating for the barracks and some other pieces.

Tazok wrote:
The base looks nice, might be enough to push into a purchase I've been contemplating for the barracks and some other pieces.

Seconded.

May I suggest you include some system of locking the bulwark pieces together. Whether it's board games or wargames, terrain pieces and playing tiles that are supposed to sit together inevitably get knocked about by use.

That looks like a job for magnets.

From the looks of it, there's 2 slots on the bottom of each piece that looks like would be used to fit a connector of some sort.

We've found a bit of time between packing and cutting to post something here.

I hope they will find a way to the store soon...

Probably an odd question but your base overlays are looking realy nice, have you considered doing a suitable size to cover large MC sizes bases (thinking specifically riptide sizes bases here). It'd be nice to be able to do up a full tau army in suitable matching bases.

have you considered doing a suitable size to cover large MC sizes bases

Have not to be honest but maybe will do something like that in the future.

Incidentally there is a new set of base overlays called 'ORIENTAL' making its way to the store soon, along with a new 0.5mm thick material to choose from.

Those overlays are definitely cool. Now, could you do Morrocan?

Now, could you do Morrocan?

Hmm don't know about that I'll let my designer know..

We are in the middle of designing the objective markers - there will be 3 different types sold in packs of 9 (3 of each design). First off we have intel crates and the next...do we need more consoles?

Objective markers continue...

Just placed my second order with you - really happy with the products I received so far. Question: why does it take so long for stuff to be available on the store?

I had not seen these. If I don't receive my Burn-In Designs KS stuff soon, I'll be doing a chargeback and placing an order with you. Very nice selection you've got there.

A little behind the FB page but if you do not follow that (please do it's quickest way of getting updates on news and stuff) here some pics of the radar dish proto.






As for the news coming in to the store we will put showing new projects on hold until all the new stuff finds it's way to the store. It should happen within next two weeks.

https://www.facebook.com/zenterrain

Cool. I'm actually assembling some stuff I received from you this week (and already ordered another 100 dollars of terrain - love it so far!). One small complaint: I'm not very happy with the shipping containers. They are proving hard to assemble. The weird thing is: it's not because the cardboard section is too tight....it's actually too loose! I'm having unsightly gaps between the wood frames and the cardboard, and the wood frames slide around (even with glue) because they are not contacting the cardboard enough. I have the cardboard as far "outwards" as it can go and it still isn't a good fit. Very odd.

We've had a few complaints about the fit being too tight before so we made the cardboard slightly thinner. We made checks with that type and everything seemed to be in order. If you find yours being to loose one thing to do might be painting the cardboard before assembly. The cardboard tends to swell a bit after that and the fit should be perfect. It should help with the gaps even if the unit has been assembled already. With the previous type when it was painted before assembly it made it nigh impossible to put together.

When will the bar be avalable on the store. I had a quick look yesterday but couldn't find it,

All the new stuff will find it's way to the store by the end of this month.

 ZenTerrain wrote:
We've had a few complaints about the fit being too tight before so we made the cardboard slightly thinner. We made checks with that type and everything seemed to be in order. If you find yours being to loose one thing to do might be painting the cardboard before assembly. The cardboard tends to swell a bit after that and the fit should be perfect. It should help with the gaps even if the unit has been assembled already. With the previous type when it was painted before assembly it made it nigh impossible to put together.

Ah, I see. Yeah I assemble before painting and it was too loose lol That said, they are glued now and will be good enough. You might want to make a note on your product page that you recommend painting the cardboard before assembly or something. WIthout that the gaps were difficult to work with.

Hello good Dakka peeps.

We were so busy recently we have neglected the 'other' parts of our endeavor, but now we got back.

That one should be in store this week along with the bikes.

Wow, that's great looking. The colours inside the bar look fun.

I like the look but the size of the bar suffers from the size of most 28mm buildings. They just aren't scaled realistically. Yeah, it would mean the footprint of the building should probably be 2x it's current size but if you mentally look at the number of tables and size of the bar in the building, then think about how big most bars or restaurants in real life are, this is just small. I like it, and it's usable it just would look better in my humble opinion, if this were a larger building. I would even consider a second kit if it were easy to link them together. Perhaps offering an expansion with a dance floor and more tables or maybe a few booths and poles.. wink wink

MLaw, depends on where you are. I've seen way smaller bars than that.

Mymearan wrote:
MLaw, depends on where you are. I've seen way smaller bars than that.

Absolutely! I've been to a couple of bars in Tokyo that make that place look positively spacious!

Valete,

JohnS

http://www.budgettravel.com/slideshow/photos-10-smallest-bars-in-the-world,7162/

I would like to see more cheap scatter terrain. Consoles and other smaller terrain for a reasonable price

We are expanding our vehicle range - brand new project straight out of the oven.











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Sure there "are" smaller bars.. the thing is, this one has parking and a fairly large bar given the amount of space.. all I was saying is that it would be nice if there were a way to expand it so it was as large as a normal bar.
As far as gaming in a tokyo-like setting.. I think that crowded of a table with that many buildings is out of the question for your average gamer. That would be a lot of really dense terrain, tall buildings, and while it could be an awesome diorama it would be extremely crowded for moving models around.
In SoCal I'm sure there are bars that are as small as the ones in question as well but the vast majority of the ones I've been in are roomier (usually by far). Fire code limits the amount of occupants that can be in an area based on square footage and clear routes to a safe exit. For businesses this can usually be a determining factor on a lot of things. I'm not really trying to turn this into a thing.. I made an observation and as per freakin usual the internet tries to tell me I'm wrong to have an opinion.. All I was saying is that "again" it would be nice if there was a way to customize the floor space of said imaginary drinking establishment.


On the new vehicle: What is the diameter of the wheels? I've seen a lot of good MDF vehicles and these look interesting but I would definitely want to hunt down replacements for those wheels.

I wouldn't think that far future bar owners are concerned with modern day US fire codes.

This is a small bar, that may not even on planet earth.

Your idea of a large bar is subjective because the places I drink in are, on the whole, about that sort of size (Country pubs near my home, small dives in city centre). Scaled up, obvs - I don't drink in tiny 28mm venues. What is this? A bar for ANTS?!

edit - please don't read that as me being a pr1ck. I know it's difficult getting a point across on the 'net!

FTR, I'd love to go to place where I wasn't stood in someones back pocket for once!

And another to be On Topic - I like that kit! As my Infinity career expands, I'm sure I could find room for it.

 MLaw wrote:
I like the look but the size of the bar suffers from the size of most 28mm buildings. They just aren't scaled realistically.

There is a reason why 28mm buildings aren't scaled realistically. It is often easy to build buildings in terms of heights with doors, windows and floors but it is rarely done for length. However buildings in length and width to proper scale will take up more tablespace than gamers usually want. That is why buildings are always compressed. It is easier to do in 6-10mm scales but at 28mm (which isn't really a scale) it becomes harder.

Using the example of the bar, in the corner table area, you can actually put 3-6 miniatures there in that space, including one sitting down. You don't get that feeling in gaming though because only one miniature will fit there, this is because of the size of the base. There is a lot of room taken up by a 25mm base, not to mention added height, even though multiple miniatures (without bases) could fit there. When gaming it gives the feeling that it is smaller than it really is. If it was to be realistic with width to fit multiple figures on bases, then the bar becomes gigantic. Although that is great for an RPG setting, it isn't the best setup for wargames even games like Infinity. Yes the bar has parking but it is bike parking, making a place for 5 bikes, so the place is going to e smaller than the normal bar.

Long time no see as we were busy once again.

We have something new though in the area of objectives...



Server stacks with valuable data.

For anyone with the military fences, how stable are they and how well could they blend with civilian buildings?

You can see some of that here:

http://www.data-sphere.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2834

The design juices were flowing heavy this week and such the last objective marker was born. The short range antenna.

Our modular planters should be up in the store soon.

Short Range Antenna (aka sniper's paradise) will be available in the store soon.

Server stacks will be available tomorrow in the store.

We got a special request from one of our fans during the tournament for a command centre of sorts - so we went and fulfilled it, hope you like it.

I really like that antenna array.


The planters are clever, as well.

Would love to see the CC to become a regular product.

Would love to see the CC to become a regular product.

It will be a regular product.

We've got some new base overlays - designed especially for HINT the boardgame - they come in standard sizes 25, 40 and 55mm. Will be available in store tomorrow.

Finally after some monumental design work we can proudly show you what we have been working on for past weeks. A fully realised police station - hope you like it as much as we do.

Now that could be one hell of a mission generator for Infinity.

Any idea what price you're looking at for that when it's done?

Not until I actually cut this one - but you know our philosophy - affordable terrain does not mean an ugly one.

Great news. I can't wait to see this one complete.

If I could offer a suggestion - entrances on more than one side would make the peice much more attractive.

That looks great.

Suddenly an Assault on Precinct 13 Infinity scenario makes sense.

That building looks great. About the small rooms, you have a little guy in them, is he on a 25mm base or 30mm? I would suggest using a 30mm base for your measurements so they can fit those rounded edge warmachine style bases

Due to some valid points made on the playability of the interior we have added one more ingress point on the back wall opposite to the main entrance - that makes the interior accessible from two sides of the building.

Well that went just went from an almost certain purchase to an essential buy.

When do you think it will be hitting your store?

I love it!

Price and availability?

Once we get the prototype cut and up we will know the exact pricing - as mentioned before.

As for ETA it will be couple of weeks at least.

I shared it on the Infinity Australia facebook page and there's a lot of interest in it there. One question which came up though was do you guys have a distributor or stockist in Australia?

One question which came up though was do you guys have a distributor or stockist in Australia?

We do not sell to retail just yet.

We send stuff to Oz on more than couple occasions though.

On another note here's our FB page you can follow if you're interested what 's coming up and such.

https://www.facebook.com/zenterrain

We got the prototype up of the police station. It will fly to the painters next week and we expect it in the store in the next 2-3 weeks.

Estimated price will be 37.5€ for the exterior and 50€ for both.

SO MUCH WANT.

I'm hunting down flavour buildings for my Infinity city board. That would be a perfect addition, and it looks simpler to build than some of the small buildings I've built recently. Looking at your website, you've got some fantastic stuff that I absolutely want.

Nice work. I'm a detail junkie so resin terrain is my preference, but you've done the best with the limitations of the material you're working with. that police station is particularly impressive.Those buildings would look equally at home in Infinity or the mass effect Universe.

Hi peeps, long time no see, but believe us we've been busy with all sorts of things.

Anyway we've got the cargo boxes ready to go live tomorrow and here are some pics.

During the tournament in Chelmza we offered to design and produce a building for the winner of the painting contest (Kedzior_Vo). After he conveyed his idea to us we went to work - and here is the effect - a sizable container crane.

Can't wait to see that built!

Hi. I like the crane a lot but see a problem with realism. I know you shouldn't overdo that in wargames terrain. It still irks me though that it not really possible for the crane to put the container on the flatbed on a truck for example. Or something such. Either the lift gets in the way or the supports between the legs are too low that a truck couldn't drive between them. Changing the supports between the legs so that a truck could drive between them would make the model much more believable and would be a not too difficuilt modification (I think). Still an awesome piece of kit and very playable with the lift and the plaform and the like.

Oh. Pretty. Well done.

Saphos wrote:
Hi. I like the crane a lot but see a problem with realism. I know you shouldn't overdo that in wargames terrain. It still irks me though that it not really possible for the crane to put the container on the flatbed on a truck for example. Or something such. Either the lift gets in the way or the supports between the legs are too low that a truck couldn't drive between them. Changing the supports between the legs so that a truck could drive between them would make the model much more believable and would be a not too difficuilt modification (I think). Still an awesome piece of kit and very playable with the lift and the plaform and the like.

The legs look about wide enough for a truck of some kind. I think it would be clearer if we had a straight side shot.

Yeah, I have plenty of loading style trucks that would easily fit in there... but that doesn't even look like the way this is designed. IMO, it looks like a truck backs up (not between the legs of the crane) and the crane makes a stack of crates inside it's structure. Even better.. if you're doing a trainyard, the rails are beneath where the crate is pictured and the same thing I described happens. I've heard Infinity has a thing for trains..

 MLaw wrote:
Yeah, I have plenty of loading style trucks that would easily fit in there... but that doesn't even look like the way this is designed. IMO, it looks like a truck backs up (not between the legs of the crane) and the crane makes a stack of crates inside it's structure. Even better.. if you're doing a trainyard, the rails are beneath where the crate is pictured and the same thing I described happens. I've heard Infinity has a thing for trains..

We also may not be thinking futuristic enough. Maybe there's some sort of hover pallet that moves them around.

 MLaw wrote:
I've heard Infinity has a thing for trains..

They keep shoving them in scenarios. Actually seeing trains on Infinity tables, not so much usually (train tracks have a nasty habit of dividing a table in two halves with a cover-starved no man's land in between - which makes for bad scenery for a system like infinity.)

Back to the crane: why does the grippy thing have to go all around the container? Seems like a fairly ineffective way to lift a container and put it down a few yards away? Don't such things usually look more like this, even on 'fixed' shore cranes etc?

 Bolognesus wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
I've heard Infinity has a thing for trains..

They keep shoving them in scenarios. Actually seeing trains on Infinity tables, not so much usually (train tracks have a nasty habit of dividing a table in two halves with a cover-starved no man's land in between - which makes for bad scenery for a system like infinity.)

Back to the crane: why does the grippy thing have to go all around the container? Seems like a fairly ineffective way to lift a container and put it down a few yards away? Don't such things usually look more like this, even on 'fixed' shore cranes etc?

Probably for the sake of a removable cargo crate. And since its made of wood or plastic.

There's so many different designs for cranes. It honestly depends on what goes through them most often I would imagine.



You could also just imagine that in the future, stricter safety laws due to some made up incident from the year 2021 or whatever caused docks to become more stringent about their gripper claw things.

Or.. maybe the green aliens from Toy Story took over?

Either way, I think this is more about rule of cool. There's things made by a few other MDF companies like Oil Dereks or other types of crane that have major functionality problems built in but they look like what they're meant to represent and they don't cost a ridiculous amount like a model railroad piece would, so I'd chock it up to a win. Knowing Zen Terrain, it'll also likely be extremely affordable.

This could also solve the problem you mention about railroad tracks. IF you set up a rail with a loading and refueling station, you could have a few of these (one for each side of the track at least if not 2), a fuel pipeline, a huge storage tank, a maintenance shack, and maybe a storage shed or whatever.

Oooff. That's a mighty find looking crane. Between that, the Police Station and the Biker bar, you've got my next few Infinity terrain purchases.

Indeed. I'm hanging out for the police station too. I think this also just made the list.

With that, a few warehouses like Sarissas Warhouse, little warehouse and TAG hangar, plus gantries, and you've got a great dock table.

Just the crane and a million shipping boxes. Yeah, that could happen.

Eeeehhh, not sure about that. Not a fan of shipping container boards.

It's a shame the XIXth Century warehouse from MAS is too obviously 19th century. It's fame would work really nicely as a dockside board with the likes of the crane.

Command Table is ready to go - available in the store now. Minis shown for scale only.

Love the command table. Excellent idea.

Any further estimates of when the Police Station will go up for sale?

Still some time till they figured all issues out... luckily Xmas, but could also be later.

The Police Station is with the painters at the moment and it's almost done as well. It should not be more than a week or thereabouts.

Most excellent, I'll have to organise an order.

The Police Station is ready to go into the store - available from tomorrow. Big thanks to Richard Dean from 'confessions of a serial painter' blog for the paintjob.

This terrain looks very nice and all that but the sci-fi terrain market is saturated atm. What we need is more fantasy terrain, ruined buildings, watch towers etc... Any plans on this front?

What we need is more fantasy terrain, ruined buildings, watch towers etc... Any plans on this front?

There will be something on the fantasy front coming very, very soon. Watch this space.

In the meantime, neon city signs available in the store now.








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We are quite happy to announce our cooperation with the designer of Norsgard - Pawel 'Red Rogue' Zuchowski.
We will be designing terrain and accessories for the game, which will also mean boosting our Fantasy line.

The first one which will get an exclusive scenario as well is the Mead Hall and you can see it further down the line.

Hello guys long time no see but we're not beating around the bush I can assure you.

We got something new from the HAB line, a bigger, better L-HAB. Soon we will also release both models in a left handed version (mirrored). The L-HAB is stackable in the same manner as HAB buildings and fully compatible with its smaller unit - see the info-graphics for a better understanding. There will be an optional neon sign for the L-HAB sold separately (desings TBC).

HAB-L is ready to roll - in all it's painted glory below and available in the store now!









Remember sharing is caring. Enjoy!

A teaser of upcoming vehicle.

Do you guys have plans on making a battle mat? I see on your Facebook page that you have one but I don't see it in the shops. Was it custom made or a prototype? If it was custom made, would it be possible for you to mail who made it and get a similar product? I really need a mat to go with all the terrain from your store, you guys are murdering my wallet LOL.

Do you guys have plans on making a battle mat?

We do have such plans and even made some test prints with a supplier but it was not satisfactory. It is on the backburner for a bit as we are going through a slight transition period.

Ooooh, interesting vehicles!

By the way, have you also considered making 6mm scaled terrain?

Are you going to be at salute or one of your stockists?

Are you going to be at salute

No unfortunately we missed the spot for this year - hopefully next year though we will be. We are aiming for Essen this year if all goes to plan.

By the way, have you also considered making 6mm scaled terrain?

We're thinking about 10mm - which is already tiny for the medium - someone suggested it will fit 6mm as well. Any particular game you wish it for?

Epic, Tyrants of War, etc.

I'd guess stuff like scifi art deco architecture would work rather well.

Long time no hear I'd say but we have not been sitting on our hands.

For now the MTV 'Badger' is ready to roll and on the store.







Soon we will show more of the upcoming stuff. Keep warm.

I like it despite the overly weathered paint job.

lovely. I really like the turret.

As someone who has both Zen and CNC terrain, I'd like to say thanks to both of you, keep it coming

I'd like to see a company producing 1/72 scale Cowboy Old West buildings and scenery in MDF/cardboard.

Something new for the futuristic city tables - suicide booth provided by 'Requiem' LTD - "Choose your way to go..." - complete with a city van to transport the remains container.

Well isn't that...depressing!

Some WIPs from one of many projects that are in the pipeline. That is a hell of a beast...

I love that ship, hot damn!

The ship looks great, and I can appreciate the Futurama nod with the suicide booth.

It's this time of the year again when black is all the rage - 15% off entire range toady and tomorrow with 'BLACKISBACK' promo code.

We're starting our annual holiday promotion with 10% discount on everything plus an exclusive ZT Christmas tree with each order. Code : HOLS2016.



Also some of our new bits and bobs.