This thread will be about my personal hobby project, which is namned Corvus Corax Miniatures. You may also find it on these places:
The blog: http://corvuscoraxminiatures.blogspot.se/
The Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CorvusCoraxMiniatures/

My idea is to create a small scale skirmish game set in a quite standard fantasy setting, and the focus will be around certain selected characters in this world. These characters would some of the main characters of each faction that is being developed, so for example, we would get to see and read more about the leaders, champions or heroes of these factions.

While I am writing the rules, the game mechanics and the background of this system and world, initially at this point, I am mainly focusing around releasing a handful of miniatures. As I am working on my own with this project, it is proceeding steadily but very slowly. I am sure the lot of you can relate to this. But, honestly, I am not in any particular hurry. Anyway, I am now at the point where I feel confident about showing the first miniature of this project.

The "scale" of the miniatures for this project will be 35 mm (yes, I am sorry, but this is my vision and I have to stay true to it rather than attempting to create proxy miniatures for other gaming systems. Also, another reason to why I decided to go a little larger is because, at heart, I am a miniature collector and I personally prefer a little larger miniatures where you can get a little extra attention put into each miniature).

This is a long-time dream coming through, so I hope I will be able to convey my excitment to you guys as my project proceeds. My goal is to have around 15-or-so miniatures ready for the skirmish game, which would be just enough for three different factions. There is obviously a long way there yet, but small steps.

The Corvus Corax Miniatures collection



Outcasts of the Dur Makeb Tribe

Kruuz, painted version


Kruuz, resin version


Oren, painted version


Oren, resin version


Oren, simple scale reference shot


Faun, painted version


Faun, resin version


Gorgr, master sculpt


Gorgr, painted version


Keras, master sculpt


Exiles of the Tetsu Clan

Shogi, painted version


Shogi, resin version


Aktra, painted version


Otomo, painted version


Lo Jun, master sculpt


Nomads of the Birch House

Agni, painted version


Rigfr, painted version


Clansmen of Caer Loch

Ulsor, master sculpt


Dullahan, master sculpt

I will be interested to see how this develops.

I have no problem with the scale, IIRC Ilyad miniatures were 35mm and I have plenty of those

Really digging the miniature, and your project/ambition is pretty cool!

Two things that kinda worry me:

1) Name: Corvus Corax might be part of GW's IP, and might end up working against you eventually. I'd try to go for another name.

2) Scale: I'm not fully convinced yet with the 35mm size. Why wouldn't it be possible to give the same level of attention/detail to a miniature of about 30-32mm (modern "28mm scale" stuff tends to be around 30mm to 32mm tall)? Using a more conventional scale will mean the miniatures will have a wider appeal. I don't think you can (or should want to) stop people from wanting to use your miniatures as proxies for other ranges. That's just how these things go I guess.

Beyond that, keep up the good work!

 Malika2 wrote:
1) Name: Corvus Corax might be part of GW's IP, and might end up working against you eventually. I'd try to go for another name.

Good point. I'll have to dig about about that a bit, although Corvus Corax is the latin name of a Common raven (http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/birding/common-raven/) so they wouldn't be able trademark that, in particular. If anything, it would have to be the name Corvus Corax Miniatures in particular if anything. But I'll have to search so I don't overstep any boundries. Thanks!

Probably should have painted him more like Venom, with the white eyes.



Looks good though.

No because if it is looking too much like venom, Marvel will be knocking on his door

grefven wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
1) Name: Corvus Corax might be part of GW's IP, and might end up working against you eventually. I'd try to go for another name.

Good point. I'll have to dig about about that a bit, although Corvus Corax is the latin name of a Common raven (http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/birding/common-raven/) so they wouldn't be able trademark that, in particular. If anything, it would have to be the name Corvus Corax Miniatures in particular if anything. But I'll have to search so I don't overstep any boundries. Thanks!

There's also a German band named Corvus Corax:

 Malika2 wrote:
There's also a German band named Corvus Corax:

Who knows, maybe there is some inspiration right there for some future miniatures, eh? :p

I think regardless of the fact GW use it as a lore character in their game's universe (which probably isn't a great way to set yourself apart) it's kind of a weird name for a company - *unless* you know it's a 40k primarch, and then you're back to the original problem that it doesn't really set you apart and give you your own identity.

Love the model, and that's a nice paint job. I'd agree about the eyes, though.

It's a pretty confusing name for a company.. Doesn't exactly flow off the tongue.

Looks like a Grendel. Cool.

There are a lot of good points about the name, and I'll consider altering it. But the common raven is a mythical creature and has quite a special place in folklore and legends in both western and asian culture (it's actually a mythical creature all round the world). And not only seen historically, but also in modern litterature (Shakespeare and Edgar Allan Poe in particular, but we also see it in Omen and various Hitchcook). This is a reason why this particular name was chosen as the project is influenced by it. My project is also inspired by Norse mythology (more about this later) where the raven obviously is an important element. So there will be a lot of things tied into it. Maybe not so much directly for the miniatures, but in the background and stories about the characters, the world, their culture and so forth.

grefven wrote:
There are a lot of good points about the name, and I'll consider altering it. But the common raven is a mythical creature and has quite a special place in folklore and legends in both western and asian culture (it's actually a mythical creature all round the world). And not only seen historically, but also in modern litterature (Shakespeare and Edgar Allan Poe in particular, but we also see it in Omen and various Hitchcook). This is a reason why this particular name was chosen as the project is influenced by it. My project is also inspired by Norse mythology (more about this later) where the raven obviously is an important element. So there will be a lot of things tied into it. Maybe not so much directly for the miniatures, but in the background and stories about the characters, the world, their culture and so forth.

If you want to eventually turn this into a business, it doesn't really matter why you like a name if it is a weak and/or problematic mark. Having a strong, recognizable mark is objectively beneficial, and having a weak mark is objectively limiting.

If you like the name, keep it, but the more you use the name now, the more you stand to lose if you ever want to change it.

weeble1000 wrote:

grefven wrote:
There are a lot of good points about the name, and I'll consider altering it. But the common raven is a mythical creature and has quite a special place in folklore and legends in both western and asian culture (it's actually a mythical creature all round the world). And not only seen historically, but also in modern litterature (Shakespeare and Edgar Allan Poe in particular, but we also see it in Omen and various Hitchcook). This is a reason why this particular name was chosen as the project is influenced by it. My project is also inspired by Norse mythology (more about this later) where the raven obviously is an important element. So there will be a lot of things tied into it. Maybe not so much directly for the miniatures, but in the background and stories about the characters, the world, their culture and so forth.

If you want to eventually turn this into a business, it doesn't really matter why you like a name if it is a weak and/or problematic mark. Having a strong, recognizable mark is objectively beneficial, and having a weak mark is objectively limiting.

If you like the name, keep it, but the more you use the name now, the more you stand to lose if you ever want to change it.

If we are allowed an opinion grefven, the name of a company does have great importance (obviously that's not all to what makes a company great).
I'm quite sure there are absolutely no legal issues with the use of "Corvus Corax" as a name for a miniatures company and you can easily search if there are any trademarks or registered names by it via a lawyer (just like we did when we chose -and trademarked- ours). You need "a strong recognizable mark", weeble1000 couldn't have said it any better. It is something that sticks with you once you've chosen it and it is great you considered it having a deeper and more complex meaning, I think every company's name should :-)

Corvus Corax isn't much different in difficulty to Corvus Belli and yet Infinity doesn't seem to have been too hurt by that 'complicated' company name. It could certainly be simpler, but if your game has a nice simple name that more people will associate with instead of the company name (much like infinity) then you should be fine. I mean I've had conversations with people about infinity, and then later mentioned something about how well Corvus Belli is growing and they've wondered who the hell that is before I clarify they're the people making it.

 Ignatius-Grulgor wrote:
Corvus Corax isn't much different in difficulty to Corvus Belli and yet Infinity doesn't seem to have been too hurt by that 'complicated' company name. It could certainly be simpler, but if your game has a nice simple name that more people will associate with instead of the company name (much like infinity) then you should be fine. I mean I've had conversations with people about infinity, and then later mentioned something about how well Corvus Belli is growing and they've wondered who the hell that is before I clarify they're the people making it.

And yet how many people know that Corvus Beli sells anything other than Infinity? Also, I am not a lawyer and am not providing any legal advice here, just some basic observations.

Bear in mind Grefven, I don't have an opinion about whether "Corvus Corax" is a 'good' mark, but I did want to emphasize that there's a lot that comes with choosing a company name, and factors to consider other than what the name means to you.

A casual perusal of the Swiss trademark database does not turn up any registrations for "corvus corax," and seven registrations for "Corvus," but I don't know the category codes and only read English, so I don't know how those marks are being used. There's also six registrations for "Corax."

The USPTO has a hit for "Corvus Corax & Canis Lupis," registered for apparel, 35 records for some use of "Corvus," and 6 records for some use of "Corax."

A quick Google search also turned up this as the first hit.

Remember that you have a responsibility to perform due diligence before using a mark, i.e. you need to look to see if anyone is using the mark or anything similar to the mark, and investigate how those marks are being used. Searching for "Corvus and miniatures" also turns up lots of Infinity pages. Corvus is a generic term for a crow, but that would only matter if you were selling crows . Apple is a generic word for...apples, but it is a good mark for computers, which have nothing at all to do with fruit. Considering that, there is a prominent company operating within this specific market niche that is using "Corvus" as part of its mark.

This is all just food for thought, and my only salient point is that selecting a trademark is not just a simple matter of picking a name that you like.

Name sounds fine to me.

Thanks for all the input, there will be some consideration for sure! The "raven" symbolism has been deeply rooted within the project for a while so it's sort of one of the major influences within the background. The background sort-of has been built up through years of RPG:ing and writing fiction. There are also some ties to the star constellation in the background regarding "religion and believes". But yeah, I guess you could argue that the branding is more of an emotional one.

I have, obviously, been doing research to see if someone was using "Corvus Corax Miniatures" in particular, but I haven't considered name-related companies too much. Anyway, lots of input, greatly appreciated to see a lot of people wanting to help out independing projects in this quite competative market! Thus far, it doesn't feel like a complete miss, at least.

Don't worry about the name. Every time someone posts something on this site that even remotely sounds like latin, inevitably someone comes along to tell them that GW owns this, that or the other.

The fact is, GW has tried to trademark the entire dictionary and a court of law has determined that they are about 80 something percent full of BS.

well, to be fair, i did open this thread this morning wondering if someone had made a version of the Raven Guard Primarch...
the association is pretty strong...

that said, go with whatever you like...
it got me to open the thread...

best of luck with your new endeavor...

cheers
jah

I think it's sort of peculiar that some of the posts here talk about IP infringements regarding the name, when the head of the miniature is so blatantly copied from Venom.

Don't get me wrong, I love when new miniature makers makes it (badum tisch), but I'd be very worried about Marvel taking offense to their IP infringement. This is not just a resemblance, this is a copy, right down to the way the upper lip sneers, the ragged eyes, and the grotesquely exaggerated mouth. It doesnt help much that the colours are reversed, since Marvel's also already done that (google Marvel Symbiotes).

I really do wish you the best of luck, and I really like the concept too, but you NEED to get IP problems out of the way, if you want to have some succes with this.

Regarding the name; As a fellow scandinavian, I know what you trying to get at, regarding the raven - but how about a different route for setting you apart, like calling it Korp miniatures og Rafn Miniatures? Or even Munin Miniatures? (Raven in swedish, finlandic and one of Odins ravens, for you non-scandinavians out there. )

I second the size issue, I would make them a similar size to the 28mm heroic scale. Give the people the option to use them in other games.

 GuitaRasmus wrote:
Regarding the name; As a fellow scandinavian, I know what you trying to get at, regarding the raven - but how about a different route for setting you apart, like calling it Korp miniatures og Rafn Miniatures? Or even Munin Miniatures? (Raven in swedish, finlandic and one of Odins ravens, for you non-scandinavians out there. )

Speaking of which, I can recommend people looking at the viking triology, starting with When the Raven Flies. It has brought me lots of inspiration and will also have a good deal of influence of one of the nomadic factions.


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MSRC27 wrote:
I second the size issue, I would make them a similar size to the 28mm heroic scale. Give the people the option to use them in other games.

Also, regarding the size. I am fully aware that going with a bit larger scale will rule out a lot of people that would be interested in them, and while I also agree that the 28 mm scale can be incredibly detailed (Tre Manor's Red Box Games comes to mind, for example), but this is much more of a small, independed venture and not in any way aimed to a broad appeal. My vision will only appeal to a very niche market of what already is an incredible niche market. Beside, I believe that 35 mm soon will be the new 28 mm. So I'll just pretend this is to be ahead.

Some of you who might have stopped by the blog or the facebook page earlier might have seen some of the silhouettes that I've posted. Here is the full monty of five of the characters that are in development in different stages.

What do you guys think?

Well I'm a fan of the literal take on Dr Octopus, and anything that's even vaguely rhino based usually does well in my books. Not entirely sold on the birdman but maybe the sculpt will change my mind.

Where's my Mysterio analogue?!?

So I have to ask, are these like medieval spider man rouges gallery interptations?

Doc ock, rhino, vaulter, goblin and I can’t place the guy on the far left, or am I miss interrupting this? the first guy looks a lot like venom(thou that means he has the extended jaw and the eyes lol) but if it is this is a cool idea, PS who is the left guy(if this is spider man based.)

And good job on both following Ur dream and making a cool mini.

 Ignatius-Grulgor wrote:
Not entirely sold on the birdman but maybe the sculpt will change my mind.

The birdman will possibly be the latest of the line-up to be sculpted, so it will probably be quite a while before I get to that point. I'll have the sculptor to push an extra mile to make it something special.

Doc Ock, Rhino, Vulture... Green Goblin and Shocker?

grefven wrote:

MSRC27 wrote:
I second the size issue, I would make them a similar size to the 28mm heroic scale. Give the people the option to use them in other games.

Also, regarding the size. I am fully aware that going with a bit larger scale will rule out a lot of people that would be interested in them, and while I also agree that the 28 mm scale can be incredibly detailed (Tre Manor's Red Box Games comes to mind, for example), but this is much more of a small, independed venture and not in any way aimed to a broad appeal. My vision will only appeal to a very niche market of what already is an incredible niche market. Beside, I believe that 35 mm soon will be the new 28 mm. So I'll just pretend this is to be ahead.

I wish you all the best, and don't think you should change your preferred name because one company also took the Latin name of the common raven as a character name. The scale issue, I think is much bigger. While figures like not-venom there can pass, due to basically being a monster, humans in 35mm cut you out of 99% of the market. I get it that it's a personal project, and if that's all you want it to be, then that's fine, but remember that none of us are invested in your game or gameworld in even the slightest amount at this point, so it's a disincentive to picking up a few of the models.

Also, I'm hoping that the 35mm is the new 28mm thing is a joke. GW figures are probably about 30mm/32mm these days, but a big leap isn't ever going to take hold too well. Just ask Spartan Games...

If you're selling stuff as 'boutique' resins I think them being 35mm (as opposed to 30-32) is not a major issue,

having 'heroes' slightly larger than rank and file is something I'm perfectly OK with, and I'm very unlikely to pay boutique prices for rank and file

so stick to your plans I say, while Azazalx is right about it putting off some they are unlikely to be the people you need to grab (the paint and display crowd) to make a success of this

I will pass because of the 35mm scale.If 35 mm is the new norm, I'm done with buying and collecting miniatures.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
If you're selling stuff as 'boutique' resins I think them being 35mm (as opposed to 30-32) is not a major issue,

having 'heroes' slightly larger than rank and file is something I'm perfectly OK with, and I'm very unlikely to pay boutique prices for rank and file

so stick to your plans I say, while Azazalx is right about it putting off some they are unlikely to be the people you need to grab (the paint and display crowd) to make a success of this

It really depends on what he's doing. I'd agree that for some heroes, and especially those that are obviously monsters like the Not-Spider-Man Not-Rogues' Gallery there it wouldn't matter at all. For actual humans, it becomes more of a concern. You'd best watch out for The Mouse though - he owns Marvel these days, and he's well known for being litigious...

Regarding the scale, I fully understand that some people will not be interested in these figures simply because of that and I am fine with that, but if someone want to use any of these figures for whatever reason I am fine with that, too, wether it be as a proxy for some other gaming system, for painting or just to because they consider them to be nice miniatures. The mutated faction will, mainly, be more of a creature-influenced design (some would be slightly larger), while the others (initially viking-influenced and asian-influenced) mainly will be human-design and they will be of the 35 mm scale. But, again, I am not really too concerned about if some people are ruled out because of the size. Kingdom Death and Arena Rex, just to mention a few, have influenced the direction of which scale to go for. And I know it's a highly personal opinion of what scale people tend to enjoy.

Regarding Marvel and what-not, all I can say is that people see what they want to see, and not what it actually might be. These characters will be independent characters in a fantasy setting that I am writing. The character concepts that have been showed thus far are for a faction in the world that have been exposed by mutation through many generations - and these mutations have, obviously, changed their bodies, but it has also warped their mind so that they have become something of a twisted faction. There are, of course, influences and inspiration, and some of it comes from Rackham's Confrontation (Drune and Mid-Nor in particular) and Games-Workshop's Fantasy (Chaos in particular), but while those are focused around larger themes, I want to focus on small, skirmish-kind of groups.


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There have been a few people asking for a picture of the actual resin miniature, so this is for you guys that are interested in such things.

I hope you agree with me that the quality looks pretty ace, especially considered it's blown up in size so all possible flaws would be visable.

grefven wrote:
Regarding the scale, I fully understand that some people will not be interested in these figures simply because of that and I am fine with that, but if someone want to use any of these figures for whatever reason I am fine with that, too, wether it be as a proxy for some other gaming system, for painting or just to because they consider them to be nice miniatures. The mutated faction will, mainly, be more of a creature-influenced design (some would be slightly larger), while the others (initially viking-influenced and asian-influenced) mainly will be human-design and they will be of the 35 mm scale. But, again, I am not really too concerned about if some people are ruled out because of the size. Kingdom Death and Arena Rex, just to mention a few, have influenced the direction of which scale to go for. And I know it's a highly personal opinion of what scale people tend to enjoy.

Regarding Marvel and what-not, all I can say is that people see what they want to see, and not what it actually might be. These characters will be independent characters in a fantasy setting that I am writing. The character concepts that have been showed thus far are for a faction in the world that have been exposed by mutation through many generations - and these mutations have, obviously, changed their bodies, but it has also warped their mind so that they have become something of a twisted faction. There are, of course, influences and inspiration, and some of it comes from Rackham's Confrontation (Drune and Mid-Nor in particular) and Games-Workshop's Fantasy (Chaos in particular), but while those are focused around larger themes, I want to focus on small, skirmish-kind of groups.


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There have been a few people asking for a picture of the actual resin miniature, so this is for you guys that are interested in such things.

I hope you agree with me that the quality looks pretty ace, especially considered it's blown up in size so all possible flaws would be visable.

I hope I don't come off as an ass, but if I do, so be it.

1) Your concepts need more work. Much more work. Right now, "medieval versions of spiderman villains" is the only thing I see. There is nothing unique about them, and it seems like you just took some well known concepts and tweaked them. In a business where IP is everything, this is dangerous.

2) The sculpt does in no way justify the scale. I'm sorry if I'm being rude, but it's just not a very good sculpt. The details are very rough (the pattern on the hip armour), the muscles aren't well defined, the eyes are crooked, there's visible file marks around him, and the "loincloth" leather straps seem very thick. The teeth could be much better as well, seeing as they are a central focal point of the model. This would be a great amateurs project. I would not pay money for this model, in this day and age, where you can get amazing sculpts that are standard 28 mm. Just look at some coolmini models, Rackham, etc. You have to realize that you are competing against quality and a level of detail like this:



Once again, I'm not trying to be rude, but if you want to succeed in this (even as a hobby-business), you NEED to have great, unique concepts and/or great executions of said concepts. Right now, you have neither. If I were you, I'd team up with a great sculptor, and redefine the concepts, before sinking any more money into what seems to me, is a tweaked rip off of spiderman villains.

Just my 2 cents.

I have to agree with the lack of interest in non28mm models. I'm always on the lookout for cool sculpts that I can put into an Inquisitor warband, or use for unique or special characters in my armies. The 35mm models, while nice enough, are not useful to me on their own. If there is no way for me to use them for another game, then they better be part of a killer game system of their own.

In short, if they were 28mm I could buy and use them right now, until your system comes out (providing funding for you to flesh out further creatures and the game). At 35mm, I look, and then move on.

 GuitaRasmus wrote:

I hope I don't come off as an ass, but if I do, so be it.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, so don't worry about it.

 GuitaRasmus wrote:

1) Your concepts need more work. Much more work. Right now, "medieval versions of spiderman villains" is the only thing I see. There is nothing unique about them, and it seems like you just took some well known concepts and tweaked them. In a business where IP is everything, this is dangerous.

As I wrote above, you see what you want to see and that's alright with me. There will be influences and inspiration no matter where you look (Zombicide comes to mind - One person see a copy of another character or famous person while others see them simply as survivors). Honestly, I am not looking for something unique that will find a new market, but rather something that would cater to an existing one.

 GuitaRasmus wrote:

2) The sculpt does in no way justify the scale. I'm sorry if I'm being rude, but it's just not a very good sculpt. The details are very rough (the pattern on the hip armour), the muscles aren't well defined, the eyes are crooked, there's visible file marks around him, and the "loincloth" leather straps seem very thick. The teeth could be much better as well, seeing as they are a central focal point of the model. This would be a great amateurs project. I would not pay money for this model, in this day and age, where you can get amazing sculpts that are standard 28 mm. Just look at some coolmini models, Rackham, etc.

Here I disagree with you, but bear with me a bit, I am a bit biased obviously. Anyway, the picture is blown up to, what, 5-6 times the actual size, and that would obviously mean that a lot of details look different than what they would on the actual miniature when you have it in hand. The miniature is sculpted by Roberto Chaudon, who is, in my opinion at least, one of the best traditional miniature sculptors on the market right now. I couldn't possibly be more happy about it.

 GuitaRasmus wrote:

You have to realize that you are competing against quality and a level of detail like this:

Spoiler:

You do realize that that particular figure you just showed is huge, right? It might be in a "28 mm scale" but a huge one and larger than the one I just showed.

 GuitaRasmus wrote:

Once again, I'm not trying to be rude, but if you want to succeed in this (even as a hobby-business), you NEED to have great, unique concepts and/or great executions of said concepts. Right now, you have neither. If I were you, I'd team up with a great sculptor, and redefine the concepts, before sinking any more money into what seems to me, is a tweaked rip off of spiderman villains.

You are not rude at all, so no need to apologize for it. There will be several great sculptors working on this project, so I have no fear in the quality of it. Roberto Chaudon, Juan Navarro Perez, Patrick Masson, Jody Siegel, Luc Pinganaud just to mention a few.

 GuitaRasmus wrote:

Just my 2 cents.

All opinions are valuable to me, even if I disagree with most of them. Thanks for letting me know anyway!

I do agree that the eyes on the "Not-Venom" (What should we call him?) are a little off. Other than that, no complaints. But since Venom can't morph his limbs, I'd think it'd be more a "Not-Carnage".

Just my comic-nerd two cents.

The eyes, teeth and tongue are what contribute to looking like Venom. The teeth and tongue may be fine by themselves but if you add in the eyes, the first thing that comes to mind is Venom. You could technically keep the eyes and change the mouth and it would look less like Venom. Although the eyes just don't make sense to me from a creature standpoint. Is he mutant, human, why are his eyes like that? I know it can be argued that with Venom it doesn't make sense either which is true but it was a suit that surrounded someone, where your design is obviously just the skin.

grefven wrote:
As I wrote above, you see what you want to see and that's alright with me. There will be influences and inspiration no matter where you look (Zombicide comes to mind - One person see a copy of another character or famous person while others see them simply as survivors). Honestly, I am not looking for something unique that will find a new market, but rather something that would cater to an existing one.

Influences and inspiration are understandable. In the case of Zombicide, they weren't influenced or inspired by the original creatures, those are flat out parodies. There is a difference when you parody something vs becoming influenced/inspired by something. Personally I like the sculpt but I don't see anything that could be done with 35mm that couldn't be done with 28-30mm scale (just look at Infinity miniatures for the details accomplished). If you are trying to cater to an existing one, then you would need to be in the 28mm (normal) - 32mm (heroic) range rather than 35mm. If you are trying to cater to an existing market, what market are you targeting with your miniatures?

 Dark Severance wrote:


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grefven wrote:
Honestly, I am not looking for something unique that will find a new market, but rather something that would cater to an existing one.

If you are trying to cater to an existing one, then you would need to be in the 28mm (normal) - 32mm (heroic) range rather than 35mm. If you are trying to cater to an existing market, what market are you targeting with your miniatures?

Thanks for your opinion.

The quote above is taken slightly out of context, or rather, I should have been more clear with what I was refering to. Anyway, let me explain what I was meaning when I wrote that I wanted to reach an existing market to target: I wasn't talking about the miniatures themselves, but the opinion raised by another user was that the concepts were nothing unique and offered nothing new and special. To this comment I replied that I am not trying to find the "next big thing" when it comes to new ideas, new styles, new settings, etc. When I wrote that I was targeting an already existing market with these concepts, I was trying to say that I am targeting the "general fantasy market". That is the target - those that enjoy fantasy in general.

 Dark Severance wrote:

Personally I like the sculpt but I don't see anything that could be done with 35mm that couldn't be done with 28-30mm scale (just look at Infinity miniatures for the details accomplished).

Thanks. I like the sculpt too, and I think that Roberto Chaudon has done an amazing job with it. Anyway, yes, there is nothing that couldn't have been done with it in the 28-30 mm scale, I totally agree (not only Infinity, but RBG is an even better example, which I am a huge fan of), and if I wanted to reach the larger market I should have gone with that scale. But this is the vision I have of it, so I will have to stay on its course. And as a most personal opinion, I favour the slightly larger scale to the slightly smaller. Yes, again, not the best decision seen from a business point of view, but to be honest, I am just happy if I see this tiny project to get out there.

And, even though I am working on the game mechanics for a small, easy-to-learn and fast-to-play skirmish game, I would be more than happy if only a handful of painters and a handful of collectors would want to pick up one or two miniatures of the small range I am aiming to get done.

@grefven I really like and support what you are doing. The mini is nice looking and dynamic enough for what people usually want imo, also the picture of the resin version shown above gives me the impression that the photo is probably either not taken well and/or the surfaces haven't been completely smoothed. The larger the scale, the more detail the sculptor can put on the model like GuitaRasmus and other people very well know, I don't know what the size of the other mini pictured is, but if they are not the same size then the comparison is unjust. In addition, what I'm more interested when comparing 2 similar-sized products (like the ones in the pictures shown, although this might have simply been a bad example, I'm not familiar with either of these) is
1. How true to the Concept Artwork the final sculpts have been
2. What the final presentation of the models will be (professionaly painted, well photographed, if possible with either 360 degree view or multiple pics from various angles)
3. What the final miniatures that land in my hands really looks like
4. How easy it is (even from reviews or comments from other people) to assemble and paint these minis (if everyone says it's easy and I don't, then the fault probbaly lies in me ;-) )
5. And last -but not least- what the price of each one is.

I'm sure that if your miniature/-s have these points covered with what else -similar- may be out there, then tread carelessly and with a wide&broad smile on your face. Just my opinion :-)

Thanks Shieldwolf! Your opinion and thoughts are very valuable. You guys know yourself the process and difficulties that one is going through when it comes to something like this kind of small project. I will get a few other pictures of the resin miniature along with some size differences of some other well-known miniatures for scale. But it'll take a few more days for that.

On another note, I just read on Kickstarter that launching projects with that platform will now be available from Sweden. I've been on the fence regarding how to exactly approach the funding bit, but with KS finally being an option, I will launch a small campaign of my own to see if there are enough interest in this project to have it funded. It would, obviously, be a very small project that I aim to have fullfilled smoothly and quickly to build up some track-record within the community.

I liek what you've shown so far - cool stuff!

I'd love to have a medieval fantasy not-Mysterio and not-Jack-O'Lantern!

Personally I do see some influences from certain comic characters and I do prefer 30mm myself, however I like what you are doing here and overall I like it and as to the 35mm issue seems to be a few games heading into that scale.

So good luck with your project

 xXWeaponPrimeXx wrote:
But since Venom can't morph his limbs, I'd think it'd be more a "Not-Carnage".

Just my comic-nerd two cents.

Venom most certainly can morph his limbs, he just chooses not to most of the time. He did it pretty regularly in the 90's comics while living in San Francisco. His decision to keep humanoid limbs had mostly to do with Eddie's desire to be seen as a hero and not a monster.


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grefven wrote:
Regarding Marvel and what-not, all I can say is that people see what they want to see, and not what it actually might be.

I think it's more that you have a different connection to the artwork and thus subconsciously choose not to see it. I think the fact that so many people are making that connection should clue you in to them being closer to that interpretation than you'll allow yourself to see.

That said, there's nothing wrong with having obviously inspired models. I think the idea of Fantasy Sinister Six and other such things is awesome.

If you hit Swedish KS when it goes live I'm certainly in for some of these (maybe all, depends on the costs)

 Platuan4th wrote:

 xXWeaponPrimeXx wrote:
But since Venom can't morph his limbs, I'd think it'd be more a "Not-Carnage".

Just my comic-nerd two cents.

Venom most certainly can morph his limbs, he just chooses not to most of the time. He did it pretty regularly in the 90's comics while living in San Francisco. His decision to keep humanoid limbs had mostly to do with Eddie's desire to be seen as a hero and not a monster.

So he does. Huh.... Didn't know that.

 Malika2 wrote:
Really digging the miniature, and your project/ambition is pretty cool!

Two things that kinda worry me:

1) Name: Corvus Corax might be part of GW's IP, and might end up working against you eventually. I'd try to go for another name.

2) Scale: I'm not fully convinced yet with the 35mm size. Why wouldn't it be possible to give the same level of attention/detail to a miniature of about 30-32mm (modern "28mm scale" stuff tends to be around 30mm to 32mm tall)? Using a more conventional scale will mean the miniatures will have a wider appeal. I don't think you can (or should want to) stop people from wanting to use your miniatures as proxies for other ranges. That's just how these things go I guess.

Beyond that, keep up the good work!

As a note, putting them together might be trouble, however...

Corvus Corax is the latin for Common Raven.

Corvus being the latin name for the Genus that it belongs to, Corax being the appendix to that name to denote the species.

It isn't faux latin or anything, just GW using already established names.

My project is slowly soldiering on; I've got the goal of which I want to achive in my sight, albeit it is still quite in the far distance. Not much progress to show in terms of news, but I figured I could show another painted WIP of the mutated with claw character. It looks pretty darn awesome, in my opinion, and I love to see how these miniatures turn out painted.

Oooh, that looks pretty damn great. Nice!

I agree that in context of the large spread of spiderman-inspired characters, it looks a bit less original than the single model. I'm all for taking inspiration where you find it, but the immediacy with which they were recognizable might be threatening as the basis for your setting.

Interesting stuff, I'll be paying attention to this...

(first post in thread edited with new pictures, too)

I know I've been slow with some actual new information or any new pictures, but here I've got a second character ready to be shown. I hope you guys like it, personally I find it very enjoyable (but then again, I really should, shouldn't I? :p).

Anyway, this is another character for the Outcast faction. This character, in particular, features huge muscles and incredible strength and is a sheer force to be reckon with in battle. However, the mutation has taken a heavy toll on his mind, and dumbed him considerably to the degree that he is a liability for the rest of the tribe. This has led to that he is chained, with wicked spikes driven into his body to secure them, only to let loose in times of conflict, where his anger brings great authority to the battle.

This is an image of the resin copy without any cleaning done to show the quality, which I think is really good.

Anyway, I hope I will have a painted version ready to show in a while.

That's a nice, meaty brute; I like him! My first impression was that he kind of looks like a Roman gladiator gone Hulk, but some elements look a bit more sci-fi, so I'm not exactly sure how to place him.

There are a few details that look slightly rough (is that a nipple?). Is this Roberto Chaudon like your other mini?

I like these minis but throwing money at the screen isn't working. How can I get these two mutant dudes guys?

I like how the mini didn't use the bizarre sci-fi elements in the concept art for the most part. Looks at place as some sort of d&d Frankenstein's monster. I dig it.

 Trodax wrote:
That's a nice, meaty brute; I like him! My first impression was that he kind of looks like a Roman gladiator gone Hulk, but some elements look a bit more sci-fi, so I'm not exactly sure how to place him.

There are a few details that look slightly rough (is that a nipple?). Is this Roberto Chaudon like your other mini?

The setting of the "world" that I am working on is a low fantasy-world, quite dark and gloomy, that is more heavily leaning towards beasts than high elves and wizards. That is a nipple indeed that you are seeing, but bear in mind that the picture is blown up quite a bit. It doesn't look rough in person.

This one has been sculpted by Luc Pinganaud (I'll have another one done by him to show, and I also have another one by Roberto Chaudon - can possibly get one or two photos up by next week).

 Lockark wrote:
I like these minis but throwing money at the screen isn't working. How can I get these two mutant dudes guys?

I like how the mini didn't use the bizarre sci-fi elements in the concept art for the most part. Looks at place as some sort of d&d Frankenstein's monster. I dig it.

I am possibly leaning towards a very small and limited kickstarter either later this year or possibly early next year, but not sure how well it would fare. The problem with such a small project like this kind is that the development is extremely slow as all fund has thus far come out of my normal wage (and to no surprise to anyone, life as we know it comes with expenses of its own). A successful kickstarter would allow me to advance the project a bit faster. But I don't know yet how to approach it the best. I can't say I am too experienced with that part of the business.


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I've recieved a few painted copies of some pre-production casts, and I wanted to show you how this particular figure can look painted up. I hope you guys enjoy, and hopefully stay tune and I'll post some other pictures over the coming nearest time.

Very interesting! Thanks for sharing the pics... I think the camera angle is playing tricks on my eyes as his left arm (so on the right side of the front-view pics) looks too short... but I think it's just bent and blending in in the photo.

It does look very nice painted up; would make a fine flesh golem or somesuchthing for D&D. I'm interested!

 Ken Oakley wrote:
I will pass because of the 35mm scale.If 35 mm is the new norm, I'm done with buying and collecting miniatures.

I am curious what the big issue is with 35mm miniatures? After picking up Wild West Exodus and some Knight Miniatures, I'm not seeing anything that makes them better or worse than the 28-32mm range. They also still work with existing terrain.

I actually hope Grevfen will make these up to 40mm - it's a perfect size for someone with failing eyesight and arthritis.

Regarding of scale, I got a question earlier for a reference shot. This is the master sculpt, but in greyscale, so the image is a bit dark, but I hope it's good enough to give a decent idea of the size, at least. I'll get around of getting some better scale shots eventually.

Not sure about the name man.. Going by GW's track record if they have a shot at sueing you they will..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvus_Corax

I'm fairly sure (well, hopeful) that even GW's lawyers understand they don't own Corvus Corax. It'd be like claiming they own the word ultramarine.

That said, the choice of name is questionable, given the inevitable association with GW. Imo it suggests a lack of imagination if nothing else.

This will be the third character for the outcast faction that soon will be previewed, and I'll get a picture of the sculpt later next week, and most likely a painted version, too.

This character is a creature of the night - a shadow-walker, who is able to bend shadows by his own desire. In game, he has the role of a supporter and by using his shadow-walking abilities, can quickly turn the tide of the battle by swiftly moving across the battlefield to where his support is the most needed for the moment. But if left alone, and allowed to be caught in the open by his enemies, he will be quick to fall.

As promised, here is the third character of the outcasts, the mutated devil. Yes, I know, the names aren't the most imagiative, but they will be namned once I get around to flesh out their background story. To me, the background is a very important part of this entire project. I know that there are a lot of people who aren't interested in reading about backgrounds or different stories of characters, or the history and politics of the "world". But, again, for me, it's an equally fun part to work with as creating these miniatures. Together, they complete each other.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy this picture and paintjob. I'll get a picture up of the resin copy next week.

The sculptor is none other than the talented Roberto Chaudon, who has done an amazing job with it!

Resin version of it, to show how it would look pretty much glued together but untouched otherwise, and without any paintjob to mesmerize you.

This is Shogi, Tempo-Strategist of the Tetsu Clan. This is the first character revealed for the Exiles, the second faction unveiled for this universe. The Tetsu Clan was once an important part of the greater Empire, but after a fall-out between the Emperor and the leader of the Tetsu Clan, all followers of the clan were exiled, hunter down like animals and killed on sight.

Keep them coming.

As for names, quality levels in sculpting etc
Each company has its own thing, not all have to follow the same formula to have success. Rachham had outstanding sculpts and look on how it ended... Mantic has medium or bad sculpts and is doing fine...


Corvus Corax is giving is first baby steps and I cheer you for that.

What's wrong with his back?

Akragth wrote:
That said, the choice of name is questionable, given the inevitable association with GW. Imo it suggests a lack of imagination if nothing else.

Only if you assume that the name was chosen because of the 'association' with GW. Given that the minis shown so far have no link whatsoever with 40K, that seems unlikely.

So how about we just chalk the name up as a coincidence, and stick to commenting on the actual miniatures?

It's good to see some regular new additions to the lineup but I agree in asking what's up with his back?

Regarding the back; sculpted muscles, as the arm is in a position where the back/deltoids are flexed, and highlighted.

Did you work off a reference? I'd love to see it if so. I cant find any images of men's backs that look like that under stress.

skarsol wrote:
Did you work off a reference? I'd love to see it if so. I cant find any images of men's backs that look like that under stress.

It might not be totally anatomically correct in every sense, I agree, but the picture is quite a lot larger than the actual figure, so in person, it looks good. I can't take credit for the work, as the sculptor is the much respected Juan Navarro Perez, one of the current top sculptors (in my opionion) in the industry.

I back to the original problem that it doesn't really set you apart and give you your own identity.

Haydenuy wrote:
I back to the original problem that it doesn't really set you apart and give you your own identity.

It's alright, I hope that the miniatures themselves, and the game mechanics, once I get 'em out, will be enough to give it its own identity. Thanks anyway for your thought.

Anyway, as per usual I'd like to show a photo of the resin cast when possible (that is if I got a decent picture of it). Again, I hope you agree with me that the cast looks great. As a most personal reflection, I can't express how much I like the flowing robe. I think that Juan Navarro Perez really nailed that one, in particular.

How do we get our hands on some of these, I like the variety of these. The styling has some refreshing Horror aspects (particularly the Claw Mutant)

 KoganStyle wrote:
How do we get our hands on some of these, I like the variety of these. The styling has some refreshing Horror aspects (particularly the Claw Mutant)

I will most likely attempt a small and manageable kickstarter early next year to help me advance the project a bit. And I cross my fingers that enough people find the miniatures enjoyable enough to want to help a small project like this, but who knows?

grefven wrote:

Very cool indeed...I think the resin master actually shows the model far better than the painted version.

Character concept art of Aktra, Sword-Mistress of the Tetsu Clan, the Exiles.

Sometime during next year (possibly early on), I hope to launch a small Kickstarter project, and if funded, I'd be able to get some new miniatures out to the market, and continue to develop the miniature range so that there are characters available for when the game is finalized.

The Kickstarter will most likely be aimed towards the three Outcast characters that I've shown here, on FB and on the blog. Possibly (and I'm probably just dreaming) if the project goes well enough I could maybe also include some of the other characters that have been shown, or will be shown in the next few weeks.

But, yeah, I know, another new miniature project without anything to show for it, why bother backing it? Well, I don't really have the answer to that, other than I hope that the community want to see more miniatures coming out, and not only from already well-established companies.

Well, I would certainly try to throw in a little support, at the very least for the big mutated brute which I think is really nice. It would be my first Swedish KS to back, so that would be interesting.

I wish you all a Merry Christmas, and hopefully, we'll be able to share the joy in 2015 for this miniature and skirmish game project.

Merry Christmas to you, too! And the unpainted resin of that latest sculpt looks quite good.

GuitaRasmus wrote:1) Your concepts need more work. Much more work. Right now, "medieval versions of spiderman villains" is the only thing I see. There is nothing unique about them, and it seems like you just took some well known concepts and tweaked them. In a business where IP is everything, this is dangerous.

Do you mean dangerous in the sense of 'Marvel's gonna get ya', or dangerous in the sense of 'you need totally original concepts and trademarks and base sizes and offishul roolz that use weird custom dice that your converts have to buy when a d6 would serve the game just as well...'?

For the latter, well, it might be too subtle to pick up from that, but I disagree. I'd question just how unique other established backgrounds and imagery are - 40K, WFB, Infinity, KoW etc. And this:

You have to realize that you are competing against quality and a level of detail like this:

Spoiler:

What makes that a great, unique, special little snowflake? If that's not totally riding on the coattails of WFB Chaos (itself riding on Moorcock et al) and Nurgle in particular, missing only the 8-pointed star and 3-circle icons, I dunno...

Platuan4th wrote:
Venom most certainly can morph his limbs, he just chooses not to most of the time. He did it pretty regularly in the 90's comics while living in San Francisco. His decision to keep humanoid limbs had mostly to do with Eddie's desire to be seen as a hero and not a monster.

In his latest incarnation as an (ex) military commando, the symbiote morphs to create Flash Thompson's body armour. Heck, it has to morph to give him his legs back...

Akragth wrote:That said, the choice of name is questionable, given the inevitable association with GW.

I'd say there are swathes of non-GW gamers elsewhere that don't know, let alone care.

grefven wrote:Regarding the back; sculpted muscles, as the arm is in a position where the back/deltoids are flexed, and highlighted.

Blimey, I thought he'd been burned in a fire.

Thing is, if his muscles are popping because he's that ripped and he's throwing his arm back like that (and it's not thrown back enough for that, IMO), I think they need to look a wee bit more than a few pimples on a flat, convex surface. For one thing, that flat convex surface should be bisected at the spine, especially if his back muscles are flexed. Also, I'm having trouble recognising the muscles and their placement, there. I guess that bit's the teres major, but what's all that around it...?
TBH I don't think the painting style is helping: the CMoN every-minor-bump-needs-sharp-dark-shadows-and-highlighted-to-white style that seems to be turning a grouping of fairly flat muscles (judging by the bare resin - wouldn't mind a more direct view of the back on that) into a collection of protruding, round, pale purple gems. I think the same thing is hurting the devil, where the back muscles seem to be connecting in completely different places, moreso in the painted version.

I am fairly impressed that Roberto understands how cloven hooves work, though. Most mini sculptors, including a few fanboy favourites, seem to think they're like round sections of tree trunk (complete with grooved bark) with a wee chip out of the front.

 Vermis wrote:
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Thanks for your comments, and you make some valid points! Thanks.

Anyhow, it's a short Christmas break, and I'm back to show yet another preview. This is for the Nomads faction, the third one that will face battles against the Outcasts and/or the Exiles. This is Agni, sculpted by Luc Pinganaud.

Posted twice.

Looking pretty badass!

So this is the second character unveiled for the Nomads faction; Rigfr of the Birch House, sculpted by Juan Navarro Perez.

grefven wrote:
The Kickstarter will most likely be aimed towards the three Outcast characters that I've shown here, on FB and on the blog. Possibly (and I'm probably just dreaming) if the project goes well enough I could maybe also include some of the other characters that have been shown, or will be shown in the next few weeks.

Best of luck grefven. The future belongs to the dreamers ;-)

grefven wrote:

But, yeah, I know, another new miniature project without anything to show for it, why bother backing it? Well, I don't really have the answer to that, other than I hope that the community want to see more miniatures coming out, and not only from already well-established companies.

Without anything to show for it is not doing you justice, we' ve seen a number of campaigns that succeeded without sculpted minis -let alone painted ones- , or just a handfull and they did just fine :-)

The miniatures are coming along really nicely here. Will look forward to the KS.

Shame about the 35mm scale, but some of the minis might be usable to me anyway, so I will keep an eye on this.

 Da Boss wrote:
The miniatures are coming along really nicely here. Will look forward to the KS.

Shame about the 35mm scale, but some of the minis might be usable to me anyway, so I will keep an eye on this.

Thanks mate.

I posted a scale shot on the blog earlier and it might be helpful for some.



From left to right, the red lines are at 0 cm and 3 cm.

Top row:
Ilyad Games Virago - Corvus Corax Miniatures - Warhammer Chaos Beastlord - Corvus Corax Miniatures - Infinity Hassassin Fiday - Corvus Corax Miniatures

Middle row:
Confrontation Kelen 13th Voice - Corvus Corax Miniatures - SIMON Miniatures Goliath - Corvus Corax Miniatures - Infamy Miniatures Sherlock Holmes - Corvus Corax Miniatures

Bottom row:
Confrontation Kelt Fiannas - Corvux Corax Miniatures - Mierce Miniatures Carrowek - Corvus Corax Miniatures - Mierce Miniatures Beowa - Corvus Corax Miniatures

Hmmm, very useful indeed! The proportions are much finer than I had thought, I think I can definitely say that Faun is a tempting prospect now!

That's a really nifty scale shot I think. I must say I like these two last minis from the Nomads, any chance of them showing up in the Kickstarter (or is it Outcasts only)?

 Trodax wrote:
That's a really nifty scale shot I think. I must say I like these two last minis from the Nomads, any chance of them showing up in the Kickstarter (or is it Outcasts only)?

It would really depend on how many characters that can be funded. The initial goal will only be for a single character, but if there are enough interest and the project would reach high then the two latest characters shown for the Nomads will be included.

So it's getting closer to launch the Kickstarter project, which will hopefully help me to fund one or two miniatures for the Outcast faction (and who knows, perhaps if the project does good enough, maybe it will also be able to help me fund one or two characters of some other faction, as well).

The plan is to launch the crowdfunding either Saturday 10th January or Sunday 11th January, probably at 20.00 GMT / 21.00 CET.

Anyway, here is another sculpt of a second character of the Exiles faction - Aktra, Sword-Mistress of the Tetsu Clan, sculpted by Patrick Masson. I hope you enjoy.

Aktra will not be a part of the initial crowdfunding project, but could possibly appear as a potential stretch goal, depending on how well the project is received and how well this miniature is received.

So I'll take the plunge this Saturday. Support if you can and if you want to see the miniature business grow larger and healthier.

Awesome, I'll be there buddy!

About time, mate. This is one Kickstarter I am really looking forward to.

Nice. I'll definitely go in for 3-4 models.

Live, and backed!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/831472366/corvus-corax-miniatures-outcasts/description

Now that's I'm pledged, time to actually read whats in the KS. I always sign before i read

Well this looks like fun so I'm in

Thanks for posting the link guys.

Awesome, just backed! Would love a hint about what the "something slimey" sculpt would be

Hey grefven, best of luck in your project, just wanted to point out the small images on the frontpage do injustice to the miniatures detail. We've seen larger images and know what these minis look like, but others may not and these pics -although from 3 different angles- don't elevate yours and your sculptors work.

I'd add a line above or below the images you've uploaded by saying something like "check out my blogspot for larger images".

Just wanted to share this, again, best of luck! :-)

 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
Hey grefven, best of luck in your project, just wanted to point out the small images on the frontpage do injustice to the miniatures detail. We've seen larger images and know what these minis look like, but others may not and these pics -although from 3 different angles- don't elevate yours and your sculptors work.

I'd add a line above or below the images you've uploaded by saying something like "check out my blogspot for larger images".

Just wanted to share this, again, best of luck! :-)

Thanks guys. Unfortunately, Kickstarter shrinks your images down so that they fit within their layout, but I've added some links to a larger picture of each miniature so I hope that will help.

So that furthest stretch goal is this model on the right:



I would totally pick that one if it became available

Oh, I'd completely forgotten that bit of art.....yeah, I'd definitely grab more than one of those

The project is very close of reaching its goal, and because of that I figured I could show the "hidden" Something Slimy?? stretch goal. The sculpt is still a WIP, but in its late stages. This one will be available for the project if we reach 30,000 SEK (aprox. $3,700).

Gorgr, Hafgufa of the Dur Makeb tribe
Gorgr goes under many names where Kraken or Hafgufa are among the most commonly used, and many of the outcasts, not only of the Dur Makeb, believes that he hails from the ancient old ones, and that he ascends land only to wreck havoc onto the world. While Gorgr isn’t divine, he is indeed ancient and has existed for generations, and through the latest decades he has been deep at slumber under-sea. Why he has awoken now, and why he is marching with the Dur Makeb tribe is not really known, for Gorgr rarely speaks. But as the tribesmen whispers; it might be because he has heeded the call of a great alpha, and that the end-times is slowly approaching.

Sculpted by Luc "Thantor" Pinganaud

I love that guy, absolutely amazing!!! Would be sweet to reach him during this campaign.

Very cool indeed, KS or otherwise I want to get him

(and remove the trident and he's work great as a 'nameless' substitute in Dreadball or Deadzone)

I agree, love that model, it will definitely be my selection if reached!

Very pleased to see this reach its funding goal today!

Yap, very very nicely funded and moving on to the stretch goals! :-)

Thanks guys. One feels a bit humbled of all the support like this. It is a good day for people who enjoy diversity among their miniatures and would want more options offered for their collections, for their painting projects and for their gaming.

The Kickstarter is still live, feel free to check it out if anyone is interested: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/831472366/corvus-corax-miniatures-outcasts/description

It is 100% funded and climbing, hopefully we'll be able to reach one of the stretch goals before the end of it.

While this is not related to the Kickstarter, here is a preview of some concept arts for some future characters for the game.

Those nomads look very nice Grefven, do you have a sculptor lined up for them?

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we manage to reach the first stretch goal on this campaign, it would be very nice to unlock that big beast of a man.

Nomads are really nice indeed! I especially like the one in the middle with the attitude "come and get some!"

 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
Nomads are really nice indeed! I especially like the one in the middle with the attitude "come and get some!"

Yep, that's my favorite too, very cool. What's the guy to the right doing by the way? Working some kind of magic?

He's crushing the skull of his archenemy - the invisible outcast.

grefven - what plans do you have for the minis that don't get unlocked? You have sculpts, so will you be looking to do a much slower retail release with them?
I'm not holding out much hope that we'll see Gorgr unlocked in this KS for instance, but I'm definitely going to be wanting multiples of him

 monkeytroll wrote:
He's crushing the skull of his archenemy - the invisible outcast.

grefven - what plans do you have for the minis that don't get unlocked? You have sculpts, so will you be looking to do a much slower retail release with them?
I'm not holding out much hope that we'll see Gorgr unlocked in this KS for instance, but I'm definitely going to be wanting multiples of him

The character to the "right" in the concept art on page 4 is one of the support characters for the faction, who is indeed chanting a spell or working his magic. He'll be an important character, and will be quite valuable for the group.

Regarding the plan for the ones that don't get unlocked, well, honestly, I've not thought about it too much. I am not sure that I can do a "slower retail release" (well, obviously I can, but then we are talking about a really slow one) because I have a lot of money invested and I am sort of up to the brim already of what I can do at this point. To make a retail release I'd need to stock up on copies of the miniatures and to do that I would either a.) save up the money from my ordinary pay (which I can do, but it takes really long time), or b.) have them pre-funded from either pre-orders or another Kickstarter.

So, basically, it's hard to say what I will do after the current running kickstarter project is fulfilled.

This project is now soon on its last 48 hours. If anyone is sitting on the fence now is the time to jump aboard.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/831472366/corvus-corax-miniatures-outcasts

The shipping costs are also finalized, and you can read about them either in the main body of text or in update 4. Just sayin' in case someone didn't want to support because of not knowing exactly what the pledge levels would be.

Yup, come on and jump onboard now people! The Swedish crown is quite weak at the moment, so it's a pretty nice deal for all you foreigners...

Does anyone know how to get in contact with Michael Bigaud, aka MIKH? I've been trying to get in contact with him the last couple of weeks as we are trying to resolve the re-fund of a deposition I made for a sculpt commission by him in 2013, that now has been cancelled because of various reasons and a number of delays. As he has now stopped responding to my attempts to contact him, I was hoping that maybe someone knew how I can once more get in contact with him so that this issue can be settled? All help is appreciated. Please send me a message if you can help.

Sounds kind of like a sucky situation there grefven. I hope it's not too much money you're owed.

 Trodax wrote:
Sounds kind of like a sucky situation there grefven. I hope it's not too much money you're owed.

Well, it's not a whole lot; but enough to have a commission done by another sculptor. This is really sad and I almost feel that the whole thing is fraudulent as there is a contract established where it clearly says that any deposit will be re-funded if the project is cancelled. And I can't really understand it because I thought MIKH was an honest professional, but this clearly tells me otherwise. :(

Honestly it's not very professional airing your dirty laundry in public like this either. Take it in private.

I disagree. MIKH is extremely behind and is overdue by a year on Arena Rex sculpts, delaying the release of their entire line since they can't fulfill all KS pledges. People need to know not to work with him - his already committed to queue would take years to fulfill!

Well I got my shipping email this evening,

so this is likely to be the fastest-KS-eva

looking forward to Mr Crab-hands arrival as soon as the post office can get him here

(then hopefully on to Captain Tentacle some time soon)

There has been a bit of silence lately regarding this project, which is because the progress has been slow. But it has not been on a complete stand still. I have been working on creating some more factions for the world, and been developing some character concept art. I've also been writing on the background and fluff of the world as well as on the game mechanics, which I keep changing over and over again. I guess I never will be completely happy, eh? But everything of this is still too early to come out publically. But it will, eventually.

There has been some progress, though. And I can present the newest member of the Outcasts of the Dur Makeb tribe. This is Keras, sculpted by Luc "Thantor" Pinganaud. I hope you guys approve.

Oh yes, I approve; when can I buy one?!

Cracking mini there

I shall want him too

Whoa! I really like that model

When can we get it? With a head swap, that could be all manner of things... looks totally awesome, my favorite so far!

Keras will, hopefully, be going out to the caster for a couple of pre-production casts shortly. And hopefully, the casts will not show any issues that would require parts to be re-sculpted.

Also, speaking of test casts, I received the other day some copies of Gorgr, the Hafgufa, and they look great, too. I am thinking maybe attempting a second KS in a couple of weeks for Faun, Oren, Gorgr and possibly Keras.

Count me in for Gorgr & Keras,

those two would be must haves for me

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Count me in for Gorgr & Keras,

those two would be must haves for me

Same here.

Finally can show how Gorgr could look painted up. I hope you guys like.

Looks cool! Could fit in well with Deep Wars or some of the amphibious Wrath of Kings models.

But this guy:


Is what I'm looking forward to

Both those are fabulous. When Grefven, when? Kickstarter?

My Dark Mariners would like to tip their tentacles to Gorgr. Very interesting and dynamic pose. 40mm base or larger?

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
My Dark Mariners would like to tip their tentacles to Gorgr. Very interesting and dynamic pose. 40mm base or larger?

Oh no, the character is not that large I am afraid. The base is only of standard size; so a 30 mm base. The character (the tentacles not included) is about 35 mm to the eyes in a standing, straight pose.

This is the third member of the Exiles of the Tetsu Clan. I hope you guys like it.

And this is the fourth member; Lo Jun, the Ronin of the Tetsu Clan. It's the master sculpt, I hope I can have it go over to the caster soon for some test casts, and then also possibly have a painted version of it to show.

Enjoy.

That last model is very cool! Quite dynamic, and love the footwear

 RiTides wrote:
That last model is very cool! Quite dynamic, and love the footwear

You wouldn't love them if you've ever had to wear them for an extended period of time. I hate getta!

I do like the figures though, especially the fully armored guy.

As the range continues to expand there will always be a need for new scale shots to give an idea of the real size of the miniatures. The scale, typically, is between 34-35 mm to the eyes in a straight, standing pose (the armature with legs, back, neck fully extended). As the armature then is re-positioned into the correct pose the height to the eyes will either be shorter (a crouching pose) or higher (standing on his toes). In addition to this, some characters may be natural larger or smaller (just as in real life where not every being is of the same height), or because of some other reason (a bulky, mutated outcast or someone wearing a full-suite of armour).

These pictures are not the best, as I am not a professional photographer (which will be quite obvious juding by the quality), but they will give you a good idea. Also, the miniatures are just the raw resin copies taken straight from the bag without being cleaned up. So please have that in mind as well.

There are three coloured lines. The two red, which are drawn at 0 mm and at 35 mm, and the blue which is drawn from the eyes.

I hope you enjoy these, and I hope it will also give you a better understanding of the scale.

Those of you who have been following this thread, blog or FB, can see that not all miniatures are shown, which is simply because not all have yet seen the caster. I'll do some new scale-shots as the range continues to grow.

Outcasts


Exiles


Nomads

Long time since I posted in this thread, but the entire Kickstarter has kept me busy. The Kickstarter, eventually, was funded successfully, even though it was just barely. The Kickstarter has also been completely fulfilled (apart from a few backers who have not replied to my communication), and it was also fulfilled a bit early. I take a bit of pride in trying to prepare as much as I possibly can for my projects so that anyone who decides to support it can feel assured that it will not be a waste of money or that they have to wait months and months due to poorly planning.

Anyway, here are the full monty of what the entire range has grown to thus far. I am honestly quite proud of the achievement.

I hope you guys enjoy this picture.

Magnificent!

Should we just e-mail you through your blog to order any of these minis?

Congratulations on completion! The models I received are really lovely, and just bursting with nice sharp detail. Well done!

I got them in the KS and I can confirm they are fantastic (and really nice casts too)

Actra and Gorgr are probably my favorites but it's really hard to choose

 Pugnacious_Cee wrote:
Magnificent!

Should we just e-mail you through your blog to order any of these minis?

Yeah, exactly. Either that or PM me through Dakka or Facebook.

This project trudges onwards in a slow but steady pace and I've started developing another of the small factions - the Clansmen of Caer Loch.

I hope you guys like it. I think it looks great.



Ulsor of Caer Loch, also known as the Chariot, one of the high-guards, is almost an unstoppable force in combat, wielding his massive warhammer. It it whispered that the dark arts performed by his clan has infused Ulsor with great fortitude granting him the power to break sieges by himself. While there is little truth to these rumours, it is true that he will wreck havoc should someone attempt to stand in his way.

Sculpted by Joaquin Palacios

great stuff

Feth! That Clansman looks epic!

Another member for the Clansmen of Caer Loch. I hope you guys like it.



Dullahan of Caer Loch, also known as the Vessel, is a formidable opponent in combat and only the bravest of warriors dare to stand and him him and face his skeletal visage, and where it has been known that lesser opponents are chilled to the marrow just by meeting his glare. In combat he wields a massive claymore that he seemingly effortlessly scythe through his enemies as he wade through the thick of combat without prejudice. However, not all deaths come quickly by the hands of Dullahan, and for those that truly deserves punishment, Dullahan uses his chain-flail to crush every bone in the body before sending the damned soul into the darkest abyss of damnation.

Sculpted by Joaquin Palacios

Thumbs up

(although the claymore blade looks weird, if that the angle of the photo or an intended part of the sculpt?)

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Thumbs up

(although the claymore blade looks weird, if that the angle of the photo or an intended part of the sculpt?)

Depends on what you mean that it looks weird? If you mean the part where it curves, then it's intended as the claymore is sort of a combination with a wavy-bladed flamberge. Have a look at this concept art and it should be clearer how the sword is sculpted.

Ah.

the photo makes sense now looking at the concept art

Do you have any more angles of the mini, grefven, as it's a bit hard to see the rest of the sword in this one

I hope this shot will show you a bit more of how the sword is sculpted. Yes, I know. It's a bit hard to read on the white background, but you should be able to see how it looks unless you got old, tired eyes like me.

I see it just fine (guess I'm young, lol!) and it's both a very detailed miniature and faithful to the concept artwork. Real nice.
And this may sound silly but I especially like the boots! :-D

Ah that's much better, thanks grefven!

Chakuda; another sculpt by Luc "Thantor" Pinganaud.



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https://www.facebook.com/Corvus-Corax-Miniatures-540099462806867/

Doooone

And yet another miniature by Luc "Thantor" Pinganaud; "Schabrak", who will partner up in the same faction as Chakuda, a faction losely taken inspiration by African influences.

"Taro no Ken"; affiliated with the Tetsu Clan, and sculpted by Pedro Fernandez Ramos. This is the first character by Pedro, and I hope you guys enjoy it as much as I do.

"Draque" of the Caer Loch, sculpted by Joaquin Palacios. He is the third member shown for the clansmen.

grefven wrote:
"Draque" of the Caer Loch, sculpted by Joaquin Palacios. He is the third member shown for the clansmen.

I quite like this one

I am liking the Clansmen of Caer Loch with their "Skull Helmet" motif. The juggernaut-like Chariot, the Vessel looks like he would make a great (ghost)rider if only someone would give him a horse.

But the Draque has me confused. Is his skull painted red by his enemy's blood, or does he has some focus on those Crossbones on his chest?

Vain wrote:I am liking the Clansmen of Caer Loch with their "Skull Helmet" motif. The juggernaut-like Chariot, the Vessel looks like he would make a great (ghost)rider if only someone would give him a horse.

Actually, I have had this idea of creating a mount for "Dullahan", but as it doesn't really fit the skirmish game, I've decided to focus on other characters first, and then come and revisit the idea with the mounted Dullahan at a later stage.

Here is a very rough idea that the concept artist played around with a while ago. At one point, he'll be getting a mount, just not sure when.

http://imgur.com/aszN1EX

Vain wrote:But the Draque has me confused. Is his skull painted red by his enemy's blood, or does he has some focus on those Crossbones on his chest?

The story about the clansmen is that they once held a large territorial area, but then were besieged by numerous hostile factions. The wars lasted for many years, even generations, and during this time Caer Loch diminished in power. The clansmen became desperate and started to seek other means to regain momentum, and they turned to darker arts. These darker arts slowly corrupted the entire population up to the point where they fully were devoted to the god of Death. And to show their allegiance they started to adorn their homes, castles, armours, etc. as they believe that without doing so, they would lose the divine protection. So that is the reason why you can see items reminding of skulls and bones.

I am not sure that this answered your question, though, but I hope so.

Liking the Dullahan's mount in the piccie, and yeah flaming hooves are a must.

Sadly didn't answer my question but solved it in another way so I am happy enough.

Draque is badass!! Nice to see a uniform look being carried through several models

 RiTides wrote:
Draque is badass!! Nice to see a uniform look being carried through several models

A small line-up, only for you, RiTides. But yes, I agree.. they look pretty darn ace. Joaquin Palacios has done a great job imo.

Aww I want to look too!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Aww I want to look too!

Well... I was more meaning that I put the three characters into a line-up because RiTides liked the uniformed look to them, so I figured I should honour him with a picture where they are side-by-side to enhance that specific look. So go ahead, have a look you, too. :p

(also, feel free to comment me on my wicked good photoshop skills..! no, seriously, if anyone got some ideas on how to pimp any and all images, just gimme a comment as my mad zkillz obviously can improve quite a lot)

The lineup is really nice, your photoshop-fu is strong! No need to obscure that awesomeness behind spoiler tags

grefven wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Aww I want to look too!

Well... I was more meaning that I put the three characters into a line-up because RiTides liked the uniformed look to them, so I figured I should honour him with a picture where they are side-by-side to enhance that specific look. So go ahead, have a look you, too. :p

(also, feel free to comment me on my wicked good photoshop skills..! no, seriously, if anyone got some ideas on how to pimp any and all images, just gimme a comment as my mad zkillz obviously can improve quite a lot)

Woo Hoo,

skull helm wearing dudes for every body, they look excellent together

"Fukashi", sculpted by Pedro Fernandez Ramos, is another addition to the Tetsu Clan. Not much is known about Fukashi as he mostly keeps to himself and rarely speaks. He is not a native to the clan, but hails from an ancient mountain-monastery of warrior-monks. Fukashi is shrouded in mystery, but is a competent warrior on the field of battle where he uses his wooden armour to merge with his surroundings and only to attack his foes when they least so expect.

I'm loving the Clansmen.

Regarding the Pedro Fernadez Ruiz sculpts; I would love to see how they look primed in a darker colour.

I know how difficult it is to photograph a white figure, I imagine that it would be much easier to see the details if they were darker.

Lovely work, miniatures are sure full of both character and detail!

:-)

grefven wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I'm loving the Clansmen.

Regarding the Pedro Fernadez Ruiz sculpts; I would love to see how they look primed in a darker colour.

I know how difficult it is to photograph a white figure, I imagine that it would be much easier to see the details if they were darker.

The pictures from Pedro Fernandez Ramos are from the master sculpt, and I agree that it can be a bit hard to pick out all the details because of the soft colour. But once I get some resin test-casts, I'll make sure to have some better pictures posted.

"Kára, Skjaldmaer of the Birch House", sculpted by Pedro Fernandez Ramos, is the fifth member of the Nomads. In the culture of the Nomads, shieldmaidens are highly valued warriors, and are in battle commonly found in the first line of warriors. They are trained from early age to master the art of spearing and most even surpass the skills of their battle-brothers. If a shieldmaiden falls in battle, it is not uncommon that it sends the battle-brothers into a frenzy as it is believed that she will guide the fallen into the great halls of their ancestors. Kára, too, believes this, and she will fearlessly launch herself at her enemies in a furious storm of attacks.

Looks great,

"Yomi" of the Tetsu Clan, sculpted by Pedro Fernandez Ramos. Yomi, in his youth, was a troublesome boy; one who did not eagerly listen to his elders and conformity. Instead, he often walked his own path, much to the disappointment of his father who tried to teach him the noble ways of their clan. His father was slain trying to protect him, after Yomi taunted a band of outlaw bandits. The bandits gravely wounded Yomi, telling him that smart-mouthed boys do not have a place in this world, and left him for dead. Fortunately, his clan found him and managed to save his life. After several months, Yomi was finally back up on his feets, only to learn that his face had been badly scarred in the encounter with the bandits. Filled with lust for revenge, Yomi hooded his deformed face and left the clan to search for the bandits. For years he walked the lands, earning his living as a mercenary in his hunt for the men who killed his father and scarred him for life. As he learnt of the uprising, he decided to return home to stand with his clan to honour his father.

Yomi is a great mini with great lore, even before reading the brief I couldn't help but imagine a similar story about him simply based off the visuals. He just oozes character on every level.

Awesome addition to the hobby, keep it up.

Yomi looks awesome but I like Kára even more!

Lovely amount of detail all over your range but you already know that ;-)

"Shinten" of the Tetsu Clan, yet another member sculpted by Pedro Fernandez Ramos.

I hope you guys like this addition as well.

Dang, guys. No kidding around.

you forgot his backstory that you posted on facebook

"Shinten" of the Tetsu Clan, sculpted by Pedro Fernandez Ramos. In time of strife, every clan needs a coldblooded killer. For the Tetsu Clan, this is Shinten. He is the prefered assassin of the clan, having the reputation to never miss a target. He is often used to infiltrate the enemy where he has got the task to eliminate the leaders when needed. But alas, the missions issued to Shinten has taken a toll on him and has made him emotionally numb. He does not care anymore who falls by his hands, but take pleasure in ending the life of anyone who steps in front of him. One such particular unfortunate event resulted in him killing a clan member with the now slain member's own weapon. These weapons, his pair of sais, is now his perferred weapon of choice to the dismay of his own clan.

I managed to use my best Photoshop-Fu to put together these four characters for the faction of the Exiles of the Tetsu Clan. They have all been sculpted by Pedro Fernandez Ramos, and they will be a part of an upcoming Kickstarter project. They will be one faction of totally three factions that will be the funding goal. So another eight figures beside these four will be looking to get funded. A few have already been displayed earlier in this thread (or on the blog: http://corvuscoraxminiatures.blogspot.se/ or on the Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/CorvusCoraxMiniatures/ (Follow and Like if you haven't already! ), but a few more are still not revealed. I will hopefully be able to show these the coming few weeks, but it really depends on how the progress is doing.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy my masterful skills of Photoshopping.

Villa, Headsman of Caer Loch, sculpted by Joaquin Palacios. Villa, son of the clan's executioner, received a harsh upbringing. His mother was lost at birth, and every since Villa was blamed for her death by his father, and he constantly was reminded of this by being on the wrong end of his father's whip. Villa was appointed the clan's new headsman at the age of sixteen after his father was a casualty at the battle of Groenward. Villa, too, was a part of that particular battle, where he single-handedly defended the important landmark of the Umpire Boulder and held it for well over an hour, allowing for reinforcement to arrive. Reports have it that Villa was at their arrival covered in blood and surrounded by more than two-dozen bodies of their fallen enemies.

And here comes another compilation of some of the characters that will hopefully be funded in Kickstarter that will be launched shortly. There are no surprises here as these characters have all been shown before. These ones are all sculpted by Joaquin Palacios (they are not in scale with each other in the picture, but resized to fit in).

Hahaha, i like Villa, he is a pretty bad-ass character, I can definitely imagining him punishing the enemies of his clan with those gun/knives.

Speaking of which, how common are firearms in this universe?

 Vain wrote:
Hahaha, i like Villa, he is a pretty bad-ass character, I can definitely imagining him punishing the enemies of his clan with those gun/knives.

Speaking of which, how common are firearms in this universe?

Villa is the appointed headsman after all, so it would only be fair to see him punish people by exexuction!

Anyway, guns are fairly uncommon, although it would depend on what part of the world you belong to. Some factions will see guns more frequently while some barely at all.

There are some factions who will not use firearms at all. The Outcasts is one example of this. While they are a primal faction, it isn't the lone reason, but they are rather "gifted" by birth certain qualities (mutations) that they have come to adapted instead. The Nomads is another faction that one will rarely see fielding gunpowder weapons. While they have been seen to use such items on the field of battle, it's more likely that they have picked it up from a fallen enemy and to be disgarded after its use than that the Nomad were using it before the battle. Being at sea, and being constantly at move, their warriors don't find it as useful to them. The Guardians of Raven Oak (under development) is a tribal and nomadic faction, who will not be using any firearms either.

But there are some that will be using them more frequently. The Free city of Rexar is one such faction. The city is a wealthy trade node and see commerce from distant people, and they have gained their independency thanks to their wealth which has bought them firearms. The city has a standing army and practically all of these are equipped with rifles. But will relying too much on firearms make the soldiers soft and weak?

Another faction who use them are the Clansmen of Caer Loch. Once, they were one of the largets clans in their area, but with size comes potential hostility. Which it did. And the clan was seiged by one war after another. As they saw their territory and power diminish they turned to whatever means they could that would once more bring them to their former strength. The clansmen are pragmatic and will use anything that will aid them in their goal. While guns still aren't too commonly used, they do realize its potential. As of yet, only Villa and another (undisclosed thus far) female warrior, Selkie, that will be using them. While the Freemen might rely a bit more on distance for their firearms, the clansmen rather prefer it up close and personal, where they can unload a volley into the chest of their enemies before splitting their skulls open.

There will be some other factions, too, which will see some firearms. The Exiles, for example, were exiled from their lands because of a schism regarding the benefits of gunpowder weapons. The Sons of Yetl Black (a faction that I want to develop eventually) is another tribal faction that will see use them. Both the Exiles and the Sons will potentially have a single character that will have access to a gunpowder weapon.

Guns, for the game, could be quite powerful, and rightfully should be. But the usage of guns are still in its early era and would be unreliable, and after using it, there will be a reload time so you can't really turtle in a corner and spamming shots.

Thanks grefven, that is a nice bit of world-building you have there.

Much appreciate it.

"Pagen", the latest character, sculpted by Luc "Thantor" Pinganaud. This character will be a part of the upcoming Kickstarter (aiming for in a week or two). Hopefully it will fund, so I can continue to expand upon this range.

I hope you guys enjoy this one. I think that Lux Thantor did a brilliant job with it, and that it conveys a lot of character in a pose that allows you to create interesting stories for him.

The pose of Pagen was intended to work as a duel against Lo Jun, and I believe that it really hit the mark.

Maybe I missed it when looking through the whole thread, but is there a website where I can pick these up or are they exclusive to kickstarter runs?

 xXWeaponPrimeXx wrote:
Maybe I missed it when looking through the whole thread, but is there a website where I can pick these up or are they exclusive to kickstarter runs?

Well, it would depend on which of the miniatures you are refering to. Currnetly, I have a small stock available (thanks to the previous Kickstarter) for 13 miniatures, and you can find information about that here http://corvuscoraxminiatures.blogspot.se/p/for-sale_26.html

However, there are several characters of which are not ready yet, for which there will be a Kickstarter before the end of the month. I hope that it answered your question.

As some of you know, I will attempt to launch another Kickstarter project soon. If anyone is interested in giving some feedback to the project before I launch it, feel free to check out the preview link. As always, any feedback is good feedback.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/831472366/39648537?token=b78c76bb

I'll be there

(not in a creepy stalker way honest)

the KS is live

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/831472366/corvus-corax-miniatures-reinforcements/description

spend spend spend people,

papa needs a brand new set of shiney resin minis

approaching 20% funded in the first day,

I'm not sure what my favourite sculpt from the new selection is,

Villa the punisher look alike with the gun blades

Or

Pagen the leaping leonine shifter

and from the existing range

Aktra Sword-Mistress of the Tetsu Clan

Or

Gorgr who's channeling Cthulhu & Doctor Octopus at the same time


what's yours?

For those who have yet not seen what miniatures I am hoping to get funded for this project, have a look on this image below.

For those of you who didn't know, Pagen (sculpted by Luc "Lux Thantor" Pinganaud) was created from the beginning with the idea of having him be the antagonist for Lo Jun (sculpted by Patrick Masson). These two characters really dislikes each other (although I wont go into the background stories here) and I thought it would be a cool idea that one would be able to pair them together in a combat scene with each other, while they still work individually as well.

When pitted against each other like this, I really think that it brings both characters up another notch, and I will probably try to create more antagonists like this in the future.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/831472366/corvus-corax-miniatures-reinforcements

Update #2 ℹ Timor WIP

I got some early WIPs on Timor from Luc "Lux Thantor" Pinganaud, which should give you some ideas about how he will start to look. You might wonder what a "human" is doing in a faction that thus far has shown three animal-men, and why is he wearing that pelt across his shoulder? That will be left for the background story to reveal, I suppose.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy this WIP nonetheless.

this is going slowly, but still creeping along, hopefully we'll get a speedboost next week as I really want them

3 days to run on this one

come on folk who wants to help me add to my resin mountain?

this is the sort of small one man band KS is meant to help fund (and who has a track record of delivery)

Last call, just over a day to go,

funding will be pushing it, but maybe, just maybe we can do it if people start pledging now

It doesn't look like it is going to fund.

What happened here?

These are some nice looking miniatures, the goal isn't too high (or low!) - not sure why this one hasn't moved faster.

hard to say for certain, it got a good start with about 25% hit in the first day (I guess from us hardcore fans who were waiting for it) and just seems to have stalled dead

but my guess is it's just running at a really busy time with loads of great stuff on KS and in stores too with GW and others putting out a lot of popular releases so the people who might have seen it for the first time and backed are out of cash and not looking (or looking and not backing)

it's not the cheapest of the cheap, but for quality resin its actually competitive

as Grefven posted
Corvus Corax Miniatures KS: Between $11-$15 (depending on pledge level)
Kingdom Death: $25
Infamy Miniatures: Between $16-$22
Demented Games: $21
Hasslefree KS price: $18,5
Redbox Games KS price: $15
Arena Rex:$17-$21
Guild Ball: $13,5-$20,5
Mierce Miniatures: $15-$20
Forge World: $21
Games Workshop AoS: $30 (plastic, mass-produced)

and isn't much expensive than the last project which did fund,

I guess brexit issues over the pound collapsing may have some influence, but we were only about 20% of the backers of the previous projects, so that not going to be a major factor

I think this is awesome, just can't figure out how I'd use the minis!

 RiTides wrote:
I think this is awesome, just can't figure out how I'd use the minis!

Like the rest of us. Put them in a box in a drawer someplace in the basement?

It looks like this KS was intended to draw in a significant number of backers with large pledges (at least a full fraction, or two)?

Well, for me the diversity of looks was the main turn-off. The only faction with a rather monolithic look is the faction with aesthetic I have no interest in. The rest are too mish-mashed. Having no intention to play yet another obscure skirmish game and not being too free with my time and means for simply piling stuff into boxes, the best chance would be to try and squeeze these pretty figures into some other game, and that's where looks count. Having to drop one miniature out of four, head-swap another and patch the third - I'd rather look somewhere else for a range that is at least better fitting together. I've even thought about backing for a single mini... but shipping paid (A) separately (B) through PayPal has killed what little interest I still had. Sorry.

Wirecat wrote:
It looks like this KS was intended to draw in a significant number of backers with large pledges (at least a full fraction, or two)?

Well, for me the diversity of looks was the main turn-off. The only faction with a rather monolithic look is the faction with aesthetic I have no interest in. The rest are too mish-mashed. Having no intention to play yet another obscure skirmish game and not being too free with my time and means for simply piling stuff into boxes, the best chance would be to try and squeeze these pretty figures into some other game, and that's where looks count. Having to drop one miniature out of four, head-swap another and patch the third - I'd rather look somewhere else for a range that is at least better fitting together. I've even thought about backing for a single mini... but shipping paid (A) separately (B) through PayPal has killed what little interest I still had. Sorry.

The KS wasn't really created with the intention to attract people at a certain level, but rather try to offer something to everyone who might be interested in something. 1, 4 or 12 doesn't really matter to me. I was hoping for around 150-200 people would want to support this project, which I believe is realistic and comparable with similar projects.

Regarding the aesthetic, the aim isfor the different factions to have three very distinguished looks; one asian-influenced; one highlander-influenced; one animal-influenced one. Persoanlly, I don't see them being a mish-mashed (unless if you mean mish-mashed that they have individual designs within their themed influence?), but on the other hand, I guess I am too biased to say anything else. I'll take your input and consider how I can make the factions even more visually clear where they belong. It's unfortunate that paying shipping separately through Paypal is something you experience as something negative. The intention with it is to make it more fair for everyone, and thus for it to be a positive aspect of it. Maybe this should have been made clearer as well.

Anyway, thanks for your input.

Preview link to an adjusted reboot of the previously project I attempted last summer; please do leave feedback. Every little bit will help.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/831472366/971332657?token=6142dddc

Grefven's last successful project was on time and provided great casts,

so if you like the look of these don't hesitate to back

The project is live. Please do head over and check it out, and if you like it, throw in a little support.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/831472366/corvus-corax-miniatures-exiles-of-the-tetsu-clan

I'm in

roll on the unlocks

about half way to funding, then on to these

Guy with the pistols at the 84K SEK SG looks mighty fine! :-)
Everything looks great, best of luck!

The "guy" with two pistols is actually female. I'll get around to post a picture of the actual miniature (and some of the others, too) in a few days.

If someone is still on the fence about jumping in and support the project, please do. Every little bit help at this point!

Kara and Surtr

I assume that photos of the actual miniatures of the stretch goals would be interesting. Both are sculpted by Pedro Fernandez Ramos.

Stretch goal #1 - Kará the Skjaldmaer




Stretch goal #2 - Surtr Ironclad




Kara has been showed before, but this is the first picture of the sculpt of Surtr. What makes Surtr stand out a bit from the other members of the Nomads is that he is wearing more armour than the rest. He goes by the name "Ironclad", a tribute to him wearing heavy chainmail armour into combat, practically giving him a second skin out of metal.

These photos are of the actual resin casts.

These two will be available if the project manages to reach 28k SEK (aprox. €2800) (Kará) and 36k SEK (aprox. €3750) (Surtr).

Surtur looks a bit taller than the others, I bet he looks like a real colossus on the battlefield.

I wasn't going to pledge for this one, but Yomi and Surtur are dragging me over.

Stretch Goal #5 does seem to have a bit of a mystique to her, especially with the skull on the forehead, I look forward to seeing her mini and seeing if that can shift my position.

 Vain wrote:
Surtur looks a bit taller than the others, I bet he looks like a real colossus on the battlefield.

I wasn't going to pledge for this one, but Yomi and Surtur are dragging me over.

Stretch Goal #5 does seem to have a bit of a mystique to her, especially with the skull on the forehead, I look forward to seeing her mini and seeing if that can shift my position.

Surtr will indeed be quite the colossus on the battlefield. A real giant, nigh impervious to attacks, bouncing off his chainmail, like it being his second skin but of metal.

Stretch goal #5 - Selkie. That's a good spot. She does indeed have a skull on her helmet. Sometimes you just can't have enough skulls. She is even having some attached to her belt around her waist. I'll make sure to put up picture of her before the Kickstarter ends. So drop by the KS, throw in a little support, and help us grow.

Cervus

Here is the actual sculpt of Cervus, the newest addition to the Outcasts of Dur Makeb. He has been sculpted by Roberto Chaudon.
•Cervus, too, as many other of the outcasts, has been gifted by "enhancements", or mutations, that enables him to survive in the hostile environment in which he lives. A thick carapace protects him and a pair of wings allow him to take flight, and as such, he can become a leathal opponent that can easily wreck havoc upon his foes.

come on folks, pledge away I need these stretch goals

Clansmen of Caer Loch

Posted by Grefven (Creator)

Some (most?) of you have probably already seen the sculpts of Dullahan, Ulsor, Draque and Villa, but I figured I could post these in an update anyhow as there might be people who still havn't been following this project. These four could potential be available if this project would reach 76k SEK. These four have been sculpted by Joaquin Palacios

Selkie

Selkie, sculpted by Pedro Fernandez Ramos, is affiliated with the Clansmen of Caer Loch, potentially available as a stretch goal.

Skult

As promised, I'll keep posting some pictures of the stretch goals. Skult, also sculpted by Pedro Fernandez Ramos, is affiliated with the Clansmen of Caer Loch.

Niyol and Klandagi

Niyol and Klandagi are affiliated to the Sons of Yetl Black. Design-wise, the faction has been influenced by native americans, and these two sculpts are Patrick Masson's work and contribute to this project. Needless to say, they look fantastic.

come of folks pledge and help an addict get his next resin fix

We've just passed the 72 hours to go mark,

74% funded so it only needs a about $600/5000SEK/£450/520 Euros to hit the target

Just over one day to go,

90% funded $230/2060 SEK/£185/261 Euro left to get

If any body is on the fence about this please consider pledging as I really really want the minis (you could always use them with CMONs Rising Sun, Warlords Samurai game or TItan Forges Japanese army stuff too




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Bodaway, Pachoa, Strendu & Seneca

Posted by Grefven (Creator)

Final 24 hours and the completion of the project is well within its reach with ~90% funding!

Here are the pictures of the final four sculpts. While I suspect that this project will not be able to reach any of them, I figured I could post them anyhow. These four are all affiliated with the Sons of Yetl Black.










What characterizes the Sons of Yetl Black is that many of its members have the strength to channel their inner abilities, which will grant them immense powers, although to a great cost. The greatest cost of all suffers Bodaway. As he turns his body into flames, they devour his flesh and sear it with great pain. This pain enables him to grow even stronger, although if he does not keep it under control, he will risk losing control over it entirely.

Pachoa is granted the ability to bend his body at will, which allows him to flow across the field of battle, eluding enemies as they attempt to attack him, and it also makes it possible for him to strike from angles not predicted by his foes.

Strendu has the power to turn his body into thick stone that will protect him and allow him to absorb a great deal of punishment and simply shrug it off.

A note on shipping

Please make sure you adjust your pledge to cover the shipping. The cost can be found in the main text of body on the campaign page.

6 hours left

this one is going down to the wire

If anyone is still on the fence on joining or not, less than 2 hours left (it's actually counting minutes now!) and roughly only $80 is needed to fund the project.

Come join and help one of the little guys to continue with this miniature project.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/831472366/corvus-corax-miniatures-exiles-of-the-tetsu-clan

come on folks do it for gefven (and us backers to)


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Woo Hoo, funded

(well done RiTides nth the other last second pledges)

Just to report my goodies have arrived safely

(so back with confidence on the next one, there were so many more figures we could have unlocked)

The shipping turn around on this was really fast! Mine is still in transit, but should arrive soon

 RiTides wrote:
The shipping turn around on this was really fast! Mine is still in transit, but should arrive soon

A lot of projects being run on kickstarter, from my experience, have a tendence to shorten the estimated delievery time for various reason (perhaps a backer would be more inclined to back a project with delievery time of June 2017 than April 2018?). Those projects I've run thus far have been small, and then I can afford to (unlike a lot of other projects) push the estimated delievery time to a further date just in case if the project would grow much larger than expected. And if it doesn't, well, then it means that backers will possibly be able to receive their rewards much earlier rather than they will have to wait for delays upon delays. However, in the same time, if I run another project and it will hit beyond expectations, I, too, could be suffering from delays, so I will not dwell too deeply into it. 50 backers or 250 backers will make a huge difference.