Ehm… I cannot believe it! This year has come and go so fast!
I will try to sum up the roller coaster that this year of 2015 turned into. But let’s be brief, for once.
First Trimester: January, February, March 2015
While we were pouring out more and more miniatures the gaming community was raging. Due to the N3 release, the new rules edition, they wanted to play Infinity more than ever. They were demanding the miniatures they needed to complete their lists and they were threatening to burn Cangas to the ground if the usual support tools from Corvus Belli for their game did not show up: The free rules book ready to download, the updated PDF with all the troops, FAQs, Army 5.0 and new a Tournament Season.
Corvus Belli tried to satisfy all those needs but it was not something that could be done in a day.
To make things better, during those months, Ángel Giráldez did not have better things to do than publish a book about how to paint INFINITY miniatures and goes in and sells 15.000 copies. How could he?
I must point out that during this first trimester CB’s mail inboxes were filled with support messages to cheer us up, written with exquisite manners and taste.
Yup…
Second Trimester: April, May, June 2015
While we kept feeding with new miniatures, redesigns and concepts this monster that we called INFINITY, Corvus Belli was already testing and preparing their next book entitled “Human Sphere N3”.
April was a great month quality wise and some miniatures of USAriadna started to show up, pointing at a whole new project that was being kept secret until that moment.
Third trimester: July, August, September 2015
Woha! Big news! Something that we wanted to show so bad: USAriadna Ranger Force. An Army Pack, containing almost all the designs for the USARF to date. The best way to start an army in Infinity.
Following up, August was planned as a “soft” month so CB could manage four circumstances at the same time: An HQ change, producing eight thousand copies of the USARF Army Pack, surviving the extra effort put into GenCon and the Vigo Interplanetary Tournament.
Some very intensive months regarding activities and work.
Fourth trimester: October, November, December 2015
Probably a lot of people would think that October was a big month, but it is almost inappropriate to join so many giant miniatures for the same batch. Many of those miniatures could have been favorite at any moment during the year.
What a great month would have been December if the USAriadna Desperadoes had been released, to fill this void due to a mishap and not wanting to do things in a hurry (pretty important), we have here the USARF Starter Pack as an independent product. It is very likely that the Devil Dogs will appear at any time as an independent product too.
Aside from the, “which was the best batch of miniatures?” question I want to point out a couple of things for the immediate 2016: expect more USAriadna news, expect that the arrival of Human Sphere N3 will reactivate lots of miniatures and shake down armies with new Special Skills, weapons, renewed gear, expect more Yu Jing orange everywhere, simply put, expect MORE Corvus Belli.
Well there's me being dumb for the day. I would have thought the tri applied to the amount of 'mesters in the lot though it makes just as much sense the other way, and that's what happens when you assume things!
Wow, looking at the year in pictures makes one realize a) how much good stuff they are putting out, and b) that I have really forgotten when things came out.
I could have sworn that the CA Starter with the Umbra Legate, Fraacta and Maakrep came out this year, but I guess that was 2014. I also did not realize that the Corregidor Alguaciles were different sculpts then the unit that came in Icestorm.
Alpharius wrote: So,...only a little bit of off topic chatter too!
Ever the Optimist? Bet you bought a lottery ticket too.
Okay, to bring this over, January's rumored releases:
Ariadna - Desperados
CA - Oznat with vulkan shotgun
Haqq - Govads
Yu-Jing - Hac Tao hacker
PanO - something no details
And I think September wins the year A.D. 2015. And October was the "Big and Tall" month. Some fine releases this past year. I do hope theat 2016 is the year of the Tikbalang. And some Tuareg resculpts. I'll keep the wish-list modest this year.
Great idea for the new thread. The thread is dead, long live the thread !
For release of the year it would probably be one of the following: Bounter hunter on bike, tank hunter HMG (or USAriadne actually), Domaru or Tiger Soldiers.
I know every 2015 release above was minutely dissected for rage fists / bad poses / impractical hair and the like, but taken as a whole, I think they are just about the most stunning models ever turned out for this hobby.
I count sixteen models with their foot up on something;
The Nisse, Mobile Brigada and Grenzer from January.
The Fractaa and Tiger Soldier from April.
The Janissary with missile launcher from June.
The K-9 Antipode from July.
The Alguacile Hacker and Tiger Soldier from August.
Roger Van Zant in October
The Ragik Hacker in November.
Two Symbiobeasts, both Achilles V2 models and the Spektr in December.
Only five Yu Jing releases in 2015; that'll be why I managed to keep up with painting.
I like the desperadoes, neither is the loadout I was thinking of using, but I do have the proper weapons from the Sepc-Ops so it doesn't bother me.
I'd hoped for the bike to be a bit more different though
Well, the Eastwood-esque desperado looks nice enough. I don't much care for the other one. The giant headlight! WTF? I suppose for hunting antipodes at night...
My biggest complaint with infinity bikers is first off they are expensive box sets....second off they dont even come with everything you need to play them.
I mean come on if your going to charge $30+ for a box set at least put in the foot model as well since they have the option to dismount.
Ehh the bike is more metal than the model to begin with.
I'm not sure if I like the desperadoes as much as I was hoping I would. They kind of break up the cleaner military look of the rest of the army so far. They're fine in a vacuum, but I dunno if I want them joining my current USARF dudes.
I'm not sure if I like the desperadoes as much as I was hoping I would. They kind of break up the cleaner military look of the rest of the army so far. They're fine in a vacuum, but I dunno if I want them joining my current USARF dudes.
We've known for a loooooooooong time that this was how they were going to look. CB's explanation is that these guys aren't military, but rather backwoods-y types.
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Tristan228 wrote: Unless the bikers are specialists and have to enter an objective room there is no need to dismount them.
Or if the board is covered in a lot of scenery that bikes can't move through/around...
There's tons of reasons to make it so that the dismounted versions are included, most notably the fact that they have the option to Dismount period.
When 2015's products are posted in a format like that, all assembled together it's pretty hard to deny the place Corvus Belli have within the industry for producing some truly jaw dropping minis!
Truly tremendous! Also cheers Kanluwen, from the previous thread your comment of the USAriadna minis looking better irl (the posing) than their stock advertisement images suggested was spot on, as I experienced myself recently!
Not certain I'm convinced with these latest bikers especially as they don't even look like convincing all terrain scrambler variants that I was imagining from the background material. I would love to see Corvus Belli's take on a dune buggy or 4x4 all terrain vehicle as a form of variation to bikes however, which leaves me feeling this release could have been so much more. Nitpicking to the extreme, I know. Corvus Belli have raised the bar so high and continue to do so on a regular basis now, 'tis great!
I love the new bikers, although can see the concern that they don't fit in that closely with the USAriadne pack (and matching that aesthetic). In the same way that the kum bikers don't mix well with some Haqqislam.
But as stand-alone miniatures they are beauts, I'll get them just to paint up as a homage to that film and concept.
Darkjim wrote: I know every 2015 release above was minutely dissected for rage fists / bad poses / impractical hair and the like, but taken as a whole, I think they are just about the most stunning models ever turned out for this hobby.
CB
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The overall quality has been absolutely stunning over 2015.
I really, really wanted a Man With No Name dismounted mini - I had dreams of using him as an ABH, optional bike at the ready just in case I roll it up.
Would have made a nice change of scene for my painting.
B0B MaRlEy wrote: I like the desperadoes, neither is the loadout I was thinking of using, but I do have the proper weapons from the Sepc-Ops so it doesn't bother me.
I'd hoped for the bike to be a bit more different though
Do we have their profiles already? I'm not seeing them on Army.
I like them. I think if we hadnt already been blown away by the Kum releases they would be getting a more enthusiastic reaction.
Like the Kum they have nods to the style of the faction without being 'in uniform'.
No we don't, the USAriadna booklet had example lists that included an 11pt (not 6, I mixed stuff up) Chain-rifle toting desperado and a 13pt one with submachine gun
From that we also know that they're Irregular and impetuous (not a big surprise)
Chillreaper wrote: I really, really wanted a Man With No Name dismounted mini - I had dreams of using him as an ABH, optional bike at the ready just in case I roll it up.
Would have made a nice change of scene for my painting.
Please, please, please CB!
That is one of the reasons CB started the Bootleg line. Units with model option not normal seen, like Pilots. Dismounted biker would fit good here.
Only Yojimbo has a dismounted mini. The LE maverick, I'm not counting here. Why did Yojimbo get one? Popular demand. A fair number of official forum members requested it-- including yours truly-- and we had a thread essentially demanding it etc.
If one wants a dismounted Desperado, I suggest sending an email to CB, or a PM to one of the CBer's ( Koni or Bostria) via the official forum, and request it. Personally, I think a 2 pack blister of dismounted maverick and desperado would be very cool.
Tristan228 wrote: Unless the bikers are specialists and have to enter an objective room there is no need to dismount them.
Or if the board is covered in a lot of scenery that bikes can't move through/around...
There's tons of reasons to make it so that the dismounted versions are included, most notably the fact that they have the option to Dismount period.
And so should manned TAGs have one too. You're right in that point, though the only reason IMO.
A biker forced to dismount happened only once during my ~200 played, viewed or judged games so far. Even on dense tables there was always enough space for the bikes (private and tournament games) to manoevre through or around terrain pieces, S4 is taller than most of the in general used scatter terrain pieces e.g. crates, barrels ... Ironically this one time wasn't actually forced and my opponent could use his dismounted Maverick model form the USARF starter box to get into the objective room (Beacon Race).
drazz wrote: So, just to be sure, have we seen any means by which to get the limited edition Achilles 2.0?
Isn't it a general release for a set amount of time? My FLGS has it for pre order.
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Desperados look great. Bikers are one of those units that I really disliked about the game until the Kum release and I started using them a lot. Their speed in open areas offset by their inability unless dismounted to navigate narrow spaces makes for some fun uses. Plus their speed makes for a nice surprise when people don't expect it - I had a Kum Chain Rifle speed across a board in one turn to wipe out a Zanshi link in one shot. My brother didn't see that coming.
I might try to figure out how to source a couple of Kum choppers on the cheap, because they'd be badass additions to my Kum gang. I only have 8, I need more!
I'm actually rather impressed by the bikers. Nice models. I agree the biker thing getting out of control a little, but these might be my favorite ones so far.
The only one I bothered buying is Penny though.
On a different note:
Omg, blindly clicked at the screen and accidentally exalted one of Kanluwen's posts.
That image also reminds me - I'm about to buy the Achilles combo box, but only want the regular version. If someone in the USA wants to split it with me for the 'limited' one, PM me!
That image also reminds me - I'm about to buy the Achilles combo box, but only want the regular version. If someone in the USA wants to split it with me for the 'limited' one, PM me!
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Firestorm is a BoW thing, they will run the whole thing from what we know.
The second Achilles will come in handy if you every want to Holo Achilles little friend as him.
Alpharius wrote: Not sure why that had to be brought up to be honest.
I mean, Kanluwen says plenty of fine things and some...odd things too.
But then, so don't most of us?
Fair enough. You've got a point there.
He does seem to have almost equal levels of new information and old opinion.
I just happened to exalt the latter, but let's say it's for the admittedly valuable part of his output and move on, by chance being marginally better people then we were a minute ago.
I like that. Thx.
Alpharius wrote: That image also reminds me - I'm about to buy the Achilles combo box, but only want the regular version. If someone in the USA wants to split it with me for the 'limited' one, PM me!
I honestly had no idea the box came with two miniatures outright. I just assumed that it was an alternate set of limbs and only one body. That somewhat explains the price when you look it up.
For the aforementioned gimmick of Achiles +Patroclus, having two may actually be useful.
An online worldwide tabletop minis campaign? I haven't participated in one of those for over a decade. I guess the equivalent for this one (if it followed the same path) would be if the whole thing just ended up being a VR simulation if the ending doesn't go the way CB intended. I hope CB puts a bit more thought into the various possible endings to make them permanent and meaningful unlike Abbadon's 13th Crusade or Mass Effect 3.
Pacific wrote: Prospect of the online campaign seems very cool, looking forward to seeing what they come up with for that !
What would be even more cool is if whatever happens in this campaign gets written into the actual game background at some point.
Like the Abaddon crusade from 40k years ago *cough*
What happened with Abaddon's Crusade actually did make it into the fluff(read "Cadian Blood" sometime--it's set post-13th Black Crusade by a manner of months).
In the case of this "campaign", BoW has said they're using it as a testing bed for a "modular campaign system" so they can run campaigns for multiple systems via their website. The specific premise of the Infinity Campaign is quite literally the same idea as the Medusa V campaign that GW ran awhile back, where it's one specific locale(an island chain on Dawn or Paradiso, can't remember off the top of my head) that they can do whatever to without it being a significant background changer and in a way that any/all factions can participate.
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plastictrees wrote: Looking forward to it!
No need for it to be sphere shaking in it's impact IMO, that's not really what Infinity is about.
Yeah, but people don't understand that. They want to feel like what they did mattered.
Achilles official release, according to the CB Facebook, will be January 26. Now, to wait for that, and the distribution to the US, and then sent out from the various websites...
drazz wrote: Achilles official release, according to the CB Facebook, will be January 26. Now, to wait for that, and the distribution to the US, and then sent out from the various websites...
Achilles has been up for preorder for quite some time.
That's when CB is going to start selling him through their webstore.
Jan 26th is the date it's going up on the CB webstore.
Retailer stock has already been distributed, my stock turned up on Wednesday and went out to customers the same day, but obviously you're going to have to wait a little longer in the US.
Looks alright, I do like how he has his gun slung on his back.
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plastictrees wrote: Looks good, but also looks like another Jannisary HMG situation where they couldn't keep the scale/ style consistent within a year of the last update.
I love everything about it. The back-slung gun, the rested sword; even the hacking pose, which I'm not usually that keen on.
I think this pose works so well for me because it doesn't need to be a hacking pose. It's multi-purpose. Most of the time, if someone unfamiliar with Infinity looked at a hacker, they may well ask "what in the hell is that person doing". This one, however, just kinda feels "cool pose, no explanation required".
plastictrees wrote: Looks good, but also looks like another Jannisary HMG situation where they couldn't keep the scale/ style consistent within a year of the last update.
Normally, I would be the first one hopping up and down about scale issues--but from what I can tell, it's not the same thing as the Janissary HMG situation.
The Hac Tao HMG model is in a much more "closed" pose and slightly hunched over as well while this guy is standing up straight.
It could also have been intended for the Hac Tao HMG to be female rather than male, just done up in a way that people weren't really noticing it.
Using my amazing photoshop skills, I compared the two Hac Taos
There's no scaling issue. It's just that Hackman has a wider stance with legs spread out and forearms outwards. Meanwhile the HMGer's shoulders are close to his body with one shoulder lower than the other. Height is about the same with Hackmanspreader being slightly shorter. Details also look the same.
Hackman has a raised and visible chin. HMGer's head is nesting in its proper hole. That may give the illusion of different scales.
The biggest difference is that the blue glowing bits are painted much more brightly on the HMGer. Not a problem of the model but moreso a painting inconsistency.
I'm really surprised that I'm not as impressed with the way this turned out as I thought that I'd be!
What's going on? What's happening to me? This is the freaking Hac Tao Hacker!
Head's a bit small, doesn't have the shoulder hoops. Pose is "solid", but I can cope with that because Arm 5 HI aren't exactly going to be ballet dancers.
* Backpacks are different which can be attributed to the hacking device. That and the right 'hacking' forearm.
* Hackman has a leather-bound pistol holster on the right leg.
* The tiny armor plate on the upper right thigh on each is differently shaped.
* Hackman has no shoulder pads.
* Hackman's shoulder-vents are segmented into three parts. HMGer has two noticably distinct segments.
* Hackman has an outcropping on the thigh armor plate
* Hackman has blue wiring on the back of the knee (inner knee). HMGer has fully armored plates.
There's no scaling issue. The HMG Hac Tao (one of the best models of the entire last year) is gorgeous, but his armor is distinctly bulked out compared to the Terra Cotta Soldiers deliberately (he is more elite and has more armor anyway).
The only thing that'd seem large for this hacker Hac Tao is that his arm is bigger: Because it's got the hacking gauntlet distinctly there. Most hackers are now recieving 3 points of differentiation to easilly ID them on the field: Different backpack details, the goggles and a larger gauntlet on the outstretched hand.
A TAG it already has the "you shall not pass" pose it will need some work, but one could make the TAG in a mid close strike pose frozen in front of the hacker.
* Backpacks are different which can be attributed to the hacking device. That and the right 'hacking' forearm.
* Hackman has no shoulder pads.
* Hackman's shoulder-vents are segmented into three parts. HMGer has two noticably distinct segments.
I assumed all three of those were due to being a Hacker, but thanks for pointing out the other bits, I'd not spotted them.
Very nice. Now we're only missing a combination rifle Nisse.
I don't get the hate for the 'tactical whatevers' on bases.
I'd rather have detritus than a rock, the former can at least make sense on any basing style.
I don't like the model requiring a rock partially because I mostly do clear acrylic bases so my models can blend in anywhere and a given sculpt carrying around it's own tiny bit of terrain is kind of in direct opposition to that goal.
I guess the comment about something location independent like a bit of junk being more versatile than a rock makes sense... but I'd prefer them to be just standing on the base.
Not a huge issue, the model is still pretty darn cool.
Nice model, like the closed coat and the hacking visor, but the only situation I might possibly use a nisse hacker in is a link team (assuming that becomes an option). Even then I think I'd rather uss the paramedic for my specialist and use a hacker better suited for the job.
plastictrees wrote: Very nice. Now we're only missing a combination rifle Nisse.
I don't get the hate for the 'tactical whatevers' on bases.
I'd rather have detritus than a rock, the former can at least make sense on any basing style.
The former can make sense on any basing style if done well. On the bases that they showcase these models on? Not so much!
Anyways, a Nisse would have made more sense with rocks. They're mountaineering troops.
That was kind of my thought. Besides, there's always more casual games of Infinity where you just take the cool looking models, right? Isn't that a big thing with the game? Obviously for a competitive tournament you may not do it but still..
Pacific wrote: I suppose you could always sub out the helmet for something else? Bit of rock covered in snow etc. then use the helmet for something else
Problem is that the "tactical detritus" comes sculpted to the model. It requires A LOT of work to remove those.
Pacific wrote: I suppose you could always sub out the helmet for something else? Bit of rock covered in snow etc. then use the helmet for something else
Problem is that the "tactical detritus" comes sculpted to the model. It requires A LOT of work to remove those.
Plus it's another Gecko Shoulder.
What? 30 seconds with a saw? No problem.
It's the sorting out the resulting non-existent footstool that takes all of my effort.
Pacific wrote: I suppose you could always sub out the helmet for something else? Bit of rock covered in snow etc. then use the helmet for something else
Problem is that the "tactical detritus" comes sculpted to the model. It requires A LOT of work to remove those.
Define "a lot". A modelling saw and one minute of time don't match my definition of a lot.
Pacific wrote: I suppose you could always sub out the helmet for something else? Bit of rock covered in snow etc. then use the helmet for something else
Problem is that the "tactical detritus" comes sculpted to the model. It requires A LOT of work to remove those.
Define "a lot". A modelling saw and one minute of time don't match my definition of a lot.
I'd generally agree, though more like 10 minutes, and then another 5 to find some Germolene and a plaster
Looks great, and I hope they keep the detritus for variety's sake.
If you really prefer a rock, and don't want to cut it off, add material to disguise the shape instead. Snow, rocks, cork, grass, green stuff... There's no shortage of options.
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SlaveToDorkness wrote: I can see cutting off the junk and raising the hacking arm a bit for a cool stealth crouching pose.
I'm pretty sure "cutting off the junk" will result in the fetal position, not crouching, but YMMV.
Yeah removing the part isn't hard... it's keeping the model looking good while somehow managing to get both feet on the ground.. or whatever.
I definitely like the Nisses pose better in terms of the hack-off. He looks like he's just gotten some info or swung around a corner and suddenly needed to hack so he's got the hand thrown forward with the rifle swinging back to the side. Very actiony. The Hac tao (or whatever) is a lot more relaxed, so maybe he's on the offensive from a time of his choosing, but I prefer the other guy's more action oriented pose.
Alpharius wrote: There will be eventually, when the best Sectorial ever gets released!
He's still a good specialist and he might prove his worth deployed in a linkteam of at least four members. I can't imagine him as the support hacking guy but with his pretty good offline capabilities he'll be pretty good in securing and denying objectives. A Nisse with Spitfire would be a nice addition too
Also, I like that Model, it has a nice dynamic pose and that tactical junk doesn't disturb the overall expression (mostly because it can be easy exchanged with a selfmade snow covered tactical rock ).
But did anyone of you notice that the Nisse's and Hac Tao's duel looks like a sorcerers' duel? Just picture them with wands
Is there an actual need for a Nisse Hacker? I can't imagine someone would use that guy ever.
There is no need. Crockman, Swiss, Hexa. All of them would be a better choice.
Hexas and Crockmen are a good/better alternative, indeed. The Swissguard is too expensive to be better though...
I think "ever" should be more like "before the Svalarheima Sectorial comes out"
The thing with a swiss guard hacker - so with MULTI - is that that is actually a pretty damn scary thing to have come at you even without the hacking. That unit has won me quite a few games by just shooting the feth out of everything in sight without even bothering to hack anything - it's just 6|0.5 over what is a very, very scary thing-in-the-dark to begin with
Not to say Crocmen or hexas can't be a threat aside from their HD, but they're nothing like a Swiss Guard to the face.
So glad they stuck with the open face helmet, and the hoods add something different. My only gripe is that the blister will obviously be a HMG, so I'll need to order a couple of repeat rifle models to make a decently costed link. I don't like having to buy repeat models.
Or have a bit of patience... when CB gives the Bahram starter box a redo, I bet that it will include 3 Rifle+LSG Govads. I'm almost certain of it.
Oooh, those Govads are nifty. But why the stance on the males? It looks like the hacker is slipping on a banana peel. No worries, the 'wide stance' matter is easily resolved.
I am surprised that CB is releasing the Nisses individually. I would have expected a box, with the hacker, the HMG, the combi+LSG, and well, another combi+LSG, perhaps with some details to make it a paramedic. Also, why a blue helmet mask, instead f the standard black?
That oznat really isn't so much a "murder monkey" eh? It just looks out of place with the rest of the Morat line. (IMHO, naturally.)
I think the Nisse wins the month, but it is really close with those Govads. Good thing I don't need to chose between them. There is room for both on the shelf
Wicked.
They did a really good job of tying them into the HB.
Wonder if we'll see more profiles any time soon. We're missing the HMG and a regular boarding shotgun (hard to argue to use the hacker when they're making a point to visually distinguish hackers now). More rifle minis wouldn't be amiss either.
Maybe in a revised HB starter?
Are the new ITS rules out? I was watching some GMG battlereports and was pleasantly surprised by them actually using TAGs (including on both sides in the most recent video). They said they're using TAGs because they're not using the ITS rules and just wanted to pick stuff that is fun and are awaiting the new ones (it was filmed it late Decemeber) which pretty much seems to jive with what was posted here about the same topic. Are the new rules out? If so, do they make TAGs more viable?
These recent YJ releases are making an all-HI Imperial Army list more and more appealing. Forgive the dumb question, but is the Imperial Army YJ's sectoral based on Svalarheima, or is there a different one coming in the future also?
Guildsman wrote: These recent YJ releases are making an all-HI Imperial Army list more and more appealing. Forgive the dumb question, but is the Imperial Army YJ's sectoral based on Svalarheima, or is there a different one coming in the future also?
The White Banner is the YJ sectorial based on Svarlaheima, which includes Zhanshi, Guijia, Tiger Soldiers, Hac Tao, Daofei, Guilang, Shaolin. The Invincible Army is the HI sectorial, which will include Zuyong, Yan Huo, Shang Ji. That's how it was last I heard.
warboss wrote: Are the new ITS rules out? I was watching some GMG battlereports and was pleasantly surprised by them actually using TAGs (including on both sides in the most recent video). They said they're using TAGs because they're not using the ITS rules and just wanted to pick stuff that is fun and are awaiting the new ones (it was filmed it late Decemeber) which pretty much seems to jive with what was posted here about the same topic. Are the new rules out? If so, do they make TAGs more viable?
None yet, but not really that surprising. CB seems to work on a, 2nd quarter onwards for a ITS season. Hopefully sometime next month, but it could be all the way into March.
Red Harvest wrote: Or have a bit of patience... when CB gives the Bahram starter box a redo, I bet that it will include 3 Rifle+LSG Govads. I'm almost certain of it.
See I thought that too until they put a rifle/lsg in the box. If they were doing that I'd have expected the HMG in the box.
But I guess they could do an individual HMG blister and only 2 Govad rifles in the starter, the way the current starter has 2 Daylami. Maybe 2 rifles and one boarding shotgun.
Yeah it's a weird mix. An HMG blister would technically give us all available load outs...sort of. As long as you don't mind buying a new 4 man box for each rifle profile you want...
Red Harvest wrote: Or have a bit of patience... when CB gives the Bahram starter box a redo, I bet that it will include 3 Rifle+LSG Govads. I'm almost certain of it.
See I thought that too until they put a rifle/lsg in the box. If they were doing that I'd have expected the HMG in the box.
But I guess they could do an individual HMG blister and only 2 Govad rifles in the starter, the way the current starter has 2 Daylami. Maybe 2 rifles and one boarding shotgun.
Well, let's take a guess at what may be in a Bahram starter. 3 LI of some sort, a MI special -- camo or AD troop -- and a HI. So, Asawira, (unless Bahram gets another HI) Ragik Rifle, Lasiq sniper (Almost certainly it will stay) or Fiday, and 3 Govads, or 2 Govads and a Muyib? Then again, who knows what new and improved units Bahram may well get when HSN3 releases. Perhaps something with Camo. Assassins should be sneaky and stealthy.
At this point I expect Daylami to remain in the Bahram starter. There's nowhere else to put their rifle profiles since CB don't do 3 model blisters anymore. Govads aren't line infantry, they're light infantry, so I am expecting CB to be happy with the Govad box + HMG blister.
What would be nice would be a 2 figure blister like the old Ragik one with a spare rifle profile and the HMG profile. Too bad CB doesn't seem to really want to do those multi figure blisters anymore.
Barzam wrote: What would be nice would be a 2 figure blister like the old Ragik one with a spare rifle profile and the HMG profile. Too bad CB doesn't seem to really want to do those multi figure blisters anymore.
I think droopping the multi figure blisters was a big mistake. I get that they wanted to drop the amount of blister SKU's, but it offered more flexibility that boxes and single blisters don't. Dropping triple blisters to move line infantry rifle models into starters was fine, but dual model blisters should have stayed.
Hexas and Crockmen are a good/better alternative, indeed. The Swissguard is too expensive to be better though...
I think "ever" should be more like "before the Svalarheima Sectorial comes out"
I'd consider Swiss to be a signature specialist in NCA. It's not a terrible choice in generic force either, definitely better than our MI choices.
That's the almost-TAG with TO and a bad attitude right? Kinda hard to argue with panO about their technical dominance when they can field a unit like that...
Really like the Oznat, although I'm rather confused about one thing: is she going to be a part of a box that includes a unit of Hungries, or is she a stand alone blister?
As an aside, is there a model for Pretas Hungries? All the ones I have seen appear as the ones shown (which look like Gakis).
As a further aside, can we expect other female morats to be redone to be closer to this 'new look', or is this specific to the Oznats?
Noir wrote: Thats a Oznats design thing the one in the starter is the same type mask and sword, it is part of their hunter background.
If you look close at the Hungers you should see a growth like thing on some of their necks that is the difference. A box of Hunger is 2 of each.
Really? Wow, that cone like thing is A) a projectile weapon, and B) counts as a chain gun? Huh.
So we now have sculpts for both profiles for Oznats (the one in the box set I presume is the combi rifle profile).
It's interesting that even though one profile has a shock CCW and the other a DACCW, it looks like both are sculpted as Hungries' claws. Can't fault them for rule of cool on it.
It is the male of the Hungry species joined in a symbiotic relationship with the female. This causes a chemical change in the female, to protect her offspring.
Maybe its the new Su-Jan?
If i remember correctly CB mentioned something about it getting redone and released sometime in the beginning of this year. I think it got mentioned during the late summer last year.
Wasn't there some mention of Yujing getting a new TAG? Maybe it's something for Svarlheima? My preference though would be for it to be a new Raicho that's scaled properly this time.
Barzam wrote: Wasn't there some mention of Yujing getting a new TAG? Maybe it's something for Svarlheima? My preference though would be for it to be a new Raicho that's scaled properly this time.
It's not overly clear, there's mentions of 'Blue Wolves' on Svarlaheima, but there seems to be some confusion as to whether they're a new TAG or just squadrons of Guijia. I'd like a new Raicho too, but this definitely seems very YJ.
Tristan228 wrote: The only Wolves located to Svalarheima I know are the Guilang aka. Ghost Wolves...
There's been mention of Blue Wolves, they were mentioned in one of the comics in the older rulebook (the first edition one I think). They were TAGs. But I think a comment might've been made by Bostria about the Blue Wolves being squadrons of Guijia and there's some confusion about whether they're their own TAG or not.
That's unexpected. According to their article, the Krakot can be used as a mercenary by any army. My hope is that someday we might see an Exrah merc unit like that.
Huh. I like the concept. I think it makes sense and its different, which is all good.
But, in this case, I'm underwhelmed by the model. Maybe its (this is hard to say given the history) the painting? Maybe its the kit-bashed armor? Maybe its too orky?
If that were a 40mm base he'd be TAG-sized. It's gotta be 25mm.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Here's a comparison pic. I've set the base widths to within a mm or two of wht they would be if the ITS exclusive Morat was based on 40mm. From left to right: ITSxM, Sogarat (40mm), Daturazi (25mm), some wird ugly big thing or somesuch (40mm), ITSxM again. For comparison below, left: 25mm based daturazi set with base as wide as in the ITSxM picture. (so should be same scale if ITSxM is based on 25mm)
Yeah but the one with the new releases isn't out until Friday. I doubt we'll get the Govad HMG this soon after the box. Tends to be a while between releases of the same unit.
Yeah, there's generally 3-4 in faction releases, so about 6 months, between a box and the 5th member blister. If Haqqislam get a release, I hope it's a Bashi Bazouk. The new art was great. Or the new Khawarijs.
-Loki- wrote: Yeah, there's generally 3-4 in faction releases, so about 6 months, between a box and the 5th member blister. If Haqqislam get a release, I hope it's a Bashi Bazouk. The new art was great. Or the new Khawarijs.
I too am aching for the Bashi.
Has this art for the ITS release been used before?
Because I am totally ready for it to be a herald of the new Bashi Bazouk release.
To be fair I'm glad they don't use the absolutely a-spec design minis for the tournament packs. That way anyone can get one if they really want it, but it's not a deal-breaker (and I'm not massively upset, as I would be if say they made the new Achilles a tournament pack-only mini)
Pacific wrote: To be fair I'm glad they don't use the absolutely a-spec design minis for the tournament packs. That way anyone can get one if they really want it, but it's not a deal-breaker (and I'm not massively upset, as I would be if say they made the new Achilles a tournament pack-only mini)
That's great for you--but remember that the new trend seems to be tournament models that have a profile, with a "general release" variant coming a year or so later.
So it's the EXACT same thing as "if they made the new Achilles a tournament pack-only mini"; just you don't care because it isn't a model that affects you.
Personally, I hate them including exclusive minis with tournament packs. They should just include a voucher that the retailer hosting the tournament is obligated to accept, for a single blister of the winner's choice and CB will reimburse them for it.
At least with this unit, you could just use a Daturazi to represent him. As far as exclusives go, I think this is probably the easiest one you could whip up yourself if you don't want to wait for the retail release.
Barzam wrote: At least with this unit, you could just use a Daturazi to represent him. As far as exclusives go, I think this is probably the easiest one you could whip up yourself if you don't want to wait for the retail release.
Sounds like a plan.
Kanluwen wrote: Personally, I hate them including exclusive minis with tournament packs. They should just include a voucher that the retailer hosting the tournament is obligated to accept, for a single blister of the winner's choice and CB will reimburse them for it.
Outside the US it's relatively uncommon for Infinity tournaments to take place in shops.
Barzam wrote: At least with this unit, you could just use a Daturazi to represent him. As far as exclusives go, I think this is probably the easiest one you could whip up yourself if you don't want to wait for the retail release.
Sounds like a plan.
That's nice. It shouldn't be necessary though. Retail release should come out the exact same time as ITS season starts.
Kanluwen wrote: Personally, I hate them including exclusive minis with tournament packs. They should just include a voucher that the retailer hosting the tournament is obligated to accept, for a single blister of the winner's choice and CB will reimburse them for it.
Outside the US it's relatively uncommon for Infinity tournaments to take place in shops.
"Uncommon" is not the same thing as "does not happen", now is it?
And it's not like that idea is hard to finesse a bit more. Give the tourney organizer a voucher that they can hand out so the winner can pick a model rather than this garbage of "exclusives" that they have to keep inventing new rules for.
It might not be statistically significant but the most tournaments I attended took place in game stores. And usually the owner added a voucher as prize to our pot.
Pacific wrote: To be fair I'm glad they don't use the absolutely a-spec design minis for the tournament packs. That way anyone can get one if they really want it, but it's not a deal-breaker (and I'm not massively upset, as I would be if say they made the new Achilles a tournament pack-only mini)
That's great for you--but remember that the new trend seems to be tournament models that have a profile, with a "general release" variant coming a year or so later.
So it's the EXACT same thing as "if they made the new Achilles a tournament pack-only mini"; just you don't care because it isn't a model that affects you.
Personally, I hate them including exclusive minis with tournament packs. They should just include a voucher that the retailer hosting the tournament is obligated to accept, for a single blister of the winner's choice and CB will reimburse them for it.
Good thing CB official answer is, must use model if it exsit for ITS, except for ITS prize models not giving a regular release yet
ImAGeek wrote: Yeah but the one with the new releases isn't out until Friday. I doubt we'll get the Govad HMG this soon after the box. Tends to be a while between releases of the same unit.
-Loki- wrote: Yeah, there's generally 3-4 in faction releases, so about 6 months, between a box and the 5th member blister. If Haqqislam get a release, I hope it's a Bashi Bazouk. The new art was great. Or the new Khawarijs.
Killjoys
Nonetheless, I could go for a Bashi Bazouk. Even without knowing just what the heck is going to become of the holoprojector. My Haqq wishlist is quickly shrinking though. Only the Tuareg and the Mag Guard are left of the resculpts.
Speaking of ITS, new scenarios are coming later this month. I hope they are N3 ready.
Red Harvest wrote: Nonetheless, I could go for a Bashi Bazouk. Even without knowing just what the heck is going to become of the holoprojector. My Haqq wishlist is quickly shrinking though. Only the Tuareg and the Mag Guard are left of the resculpts.
Man I'm so hoping for a Tuareg box. Hacker, Doctor, Sniper, generic (possibly with alternate rifle and boarding shotgun arms to make a badass all in one box). I know they're not linkable, but the Ghazi box set the precedent here. Give us a box.
Red Harvest wrote: Speaking of ITS, new scenarios are coming later this month. I hope they are N3 ready.
I'd rather see N3 profiles, most of my army is still N2. Designer's thoughts on new ITS and status of the current game written in a serious and analytical tone would be a nice overture into new season. Ah, CB.
Pacific wrote: To be fair I'm glad they don't use the absolutely a-spec design minis for the tournament packs. That way anyone can get one if they really want it, but it's not a deal-breaker (and I'm not massively upset, as I would be if say they made the new Achilles a tournament pack-only mini)
That's great for you--but remember that the new trend seems to be tournament models that have a profile, with a "general release" variant coming a year or so later.
So it's the EXACT same thing as "if they made the new Achilles a tournament pack-only mini"; just you don't care because it isn't a model that affects you.
Personally, I hate them including exclusive minis with tournament packs. They should just include a voucher that the retailer hosting the tournament is obligated to accept, for a single blister of the winner's choice and CB will reimburse them for it.
Good thing CB official answer is, must use model if it exsit for ITS, except for ITS prize models not giving a regular release yet
If I'm reading you correctly, you're missing the point. I don't know about Pacific, but entering tournaments is an irrelevance to me. I just don't like limited-availability miniatures.
CB did say there'd be no limited edition models that didn't have an equivalent regular-availability equivalent. This makes the third exception to that rule, after Miranda Ashcroft and Armand Le Muet.
Knight, don't worry. Those N3 stats will be along ... "soon" Mind you, all models have "N3" stats of a sort. Unless you, like me, played Exrah.
See the Angel book one i recall and can still find so online. The Gencon Bolt on tne other hand no, I do recall then saying Penny like all Gencon Mrecs before will get a release later in the year. Im fact i pretty sure they said the Bolt was a one time deal, before they agreed to let the cosplay keep sell it on her website.
Reasonably interesting game bits storage box, some people may find useful.
Personally, I'm not desperate to get one and I'm quite happy to wait for retail, but it's nice to see that it has funded. Also my self-imposed KS ban prevents me from getting in on it.
However...
They just put a pledge level in for a bunch of their Asian Terrain that I was going to buy anyway. I'd be stupid to not pick that up, right?
EDIT:
OK, I'm a moron.
It has been mentioned in a separate post and lost on page 2.
If this doesn't constitute Infinity News, please nuke it from orbit.
Automatically Appended Next Post: On a different note, apparently the Beasts of War campaign is scheduled for the first week in March.
Neither GoGo Marlene, nor Bubba the HI ABH will get regular releases. Nor, as far as I know, will the LE mini that will come with HS. Everything else is supposed to have a regular release equivalent, although I doubt that we will see one for Miranda Ashcroft. And a big Meh! to that mini anyway. I'd like to see the Jeanne D'Arc regular mini at some point, if for no other reason that to be able to use it as a Montesa proxy. I doubt that we will see a Montesa anytime in the near or far future :(
Red Harvest wrote: Neither GoGo Marlene, nor Bubba the HI ABH will get regular releases. Nor, as far as I know, will the LE mini that will come with HS. Everything else is supposed to have a regular release equivalent, although I doubt that we will see one for Miranda Ashcroft. And a big Meh! to that mini anyway. I'd like to see the Jeanne D'Arc regular mini at some point, if for no other reason that to be able to use it as a Montesa proxy. I doubt that we will see a Montesa anytime in the near or far future :(
Gogo Marlene is a basic civvie with no special profile. If anything, the O12 High Commissioner model is her public release as well as the Dire Foes civvies. They're categorically all the same.
The "HI" ABH is just a regular ABH in pretty much every way except he's fat-looking. You can use Max Skropio to represent the generic ABH. Do note that even if you roll +3ARM on the ABH's Booty table, he remains a light infantry model. This is the same with the sniper ABH getting a completely different profile release when they released the same body with a rifle on a bike.
Fun Fact: The "Booty" rule is on page 69 of the rulebook. :-)
Miranda Ashcroft and La Muet are special cases because they have completely separate and unique unit profiles in the rules that aren't determined by random booties. Technically, you're supposed to use the existent model for those if you wish to field them. Miranda has a monofilament CCW and La Muet has symbiont armor both of which are not available to normal ABHs.
Also, Ashcroft specifically is usable in ITS events fieldable wherever vanilla ABHs can.
These are the reasons people are asking for a Miranda Ashcroft general release model.
People seem to be comparing Ashcroft's missing general-release model with that of the chubby ABH, Gogo Marlene, or even the Gencon Bolt. They're not comparable.
Personally, I already have Miranda Ashcroft, never use it, and have never seen it used. But the unique profile is there and some people don't care about proxies.
Absolutionis wrote: People seem to be comparing Ashcroft's missing general-release model with that of the chubby ABH, Gogo Marlene, or even the Gencon Bolt. They're not comparable.
Or they are pointing out CB never said Ashcroft was getting a normal release, and it was just wishlisting by people after the fact Ashcroft got her own profile.
Absolutionis wrote: People seem to be comparing Ashcroft's missing general-release model with that of the chubby ABH, Gogo Marlene, or even the Gencon Bolt. They're not comparable.
Or they are pointing out CB never said Ashcroft was getting a normal release, and it was just wishlisting by people after the fact Ashcroft got her own profile.
Absolutionis wrote: People seem to be comparing Ashcroft's missing general-release model with that of the chubby ABH, Gogo Marlene, or even the Gencon Bolt. They're not comparable.
Or they are pointing out CB never said Ashcroft was getting a normal release, and it was just wishlisting by people after the fact Ashcroft got her own profile.
Not really. No.
How is it not. No one said they are comparable just CB never said we gat a normal release and pointed out other cases of CB not saying we get a normal release.
The point is they only said that about ITS prize model and some individual models. They was never a blanket statment about Named models with their own profile getting a normal release.
No one even said if it was a good idea or not. Just that wishlisting should be confused with official statment form CB, and so new player don't start thinking CB did.
At this point, we should all get back on track here, and take any remaining necessary discussion about that other stuff down to the INFINITY sub-forums.
Govads are up for pre-order at MM, along with the rest of the releases; Desperadoes, Oznat, Nisse Hacker and Hac Tao. Prices are in line with previous minis. A good sign.
Set up a wish list of things you want and that you think might go on Daily Deal... Box sets are a good bet here... and just wait and watch. Bargain-Hunting is a marathon, not a sprint. That said, I know the Govads will eventually be a daily deal, but will I wait? Hard to say.
I'd be ok if they *don't* put up any more DotD, I can usually resist buying Infinity (large shame drawer full of future projects of just Infinity), but when you're talking CB metals for 4-5 dollars a pop...really low willpower. Even if I don't have the army
-Loki- wrote: ... How? CA bases are a Aqua dirt. Armour is red and black.
Reddish dirt, tangly, viney vegetation and camo green points to Haqqislam or USAriadna. Black panels points more to USAriadna.
My guess is Blackjacks followed up by possibly the Maghariba. Might as well Wishlist.
It ain't Blackjacks. Blackjacks, as of November, did not have anything beyond their name and potentially their statlines done. They still didn't even have a dossier as of November.
The armor style also isn't Ariadnan from the looks of it though. It looks more Yu Jing in style.
Interestingly though if you compare the base to those of older models from SAA, it's a closer match than it is to the USARF or Haqqislam bases. Maybe it's a Merc?
Barzam wrote: where are you guys even seeing a base in that pic? I can't make heads or tails what I'm even looking at. It just looks like a rusty lump.
They like to try to be "clever" with the sniper shots.
It's at a weird angle, but if you look at it as though the subject material is a leg, you can see the base vegetation.
Coloration reminds me a lot of the Maghariba Guard concept:
Spoiler:
The olive-green armor color along with the white marking in on the bottom right of the 'sniper shot' is just like that of the Mag Guard concept.
Of all the factions to let their stuff rust a bit, the rugged Haqqis and Ariadna fit. It looks way too mechanical to be Ariadna unless it's another variant of a Traktor baggagebot or something for USAriadna or Mercs?
That base might just be a background decoration unrelated to the model itself. With the way the shadow is, it's decently far away. Either unrelated, or the model is *big*.
Base is in the background of the upper left corner (vegitation). Its two lower legs one at an angle with a tactical heel on it (top center of pic).
I think this is right. Needs to flipped 90° counter clockwise. So the green bulge on the bottom right of the current pic is the calf and the area of detail at the top is the combat heel of the other leg.
Going to gamble on something merc related. Would love it to be Haqq but I have no clue as to what it could be.
I was hoping for a hat to complete the Cad Bane look. Oh well, still a nice looking figure. It's about time the CA got to have a Merc that isn't an exclusive.
Tristan228 wrote: Just to make a guess, the body is the same sculpt as the body of the limited one? The MULTI Sniper Rifle gives him a better look though.
All alternate sculpts do this. Even the ITS ABH sniper, which had a general release as a biker, was the same body/legs with different arms and a bike.
A Su Jian, eh? That must be what that sniper shot was after all. I'm curious to see what direction they took with its redesign.
Speaking of the Su Jian, why isn't it classed as a TAG? It seems like it should be since aside from transforming, it's the same concept as a PanO TAG. And wouldn't it also be around the same size as a Gecko? So, its smaller size shouldn't exclude it from TAG classification.
Hmm. The profile and fluff for the Krakot Renegade is up. Apparently that thing on his chest is actually a "Chest Mine." I would assume then that they can blow themselves up. They also have something called a "Red Haze."
Barzam wrote: Hmm. The profile and fluff for the Krakot Renegade is up. Apparently that thing on his chest is actually a "Chest Mine." I would assume then that they can blow themselves up. They also have something called a "Red Haze."
Red Fury. It was also on the dossier for the Xeodron Batroid shown at GenCon last year, apparently some kind of spitfire like weapon.
drazz wrote: Hector? Wasn't he opposed to the Greeks and Achilles?
Penthesilea was also opposed to Achilles and the Greeks. Then again, she is one of the biggest outliers of the ASS in terms of stats.
All the Myrmidon characters were strictly on the side of the Greeks in the Trojan War along with Teucer, Eudoros, and DIomedes.
Atalanta, Alke, and Thamrys were separate stories unrelated to the war that did pretty much something similar to what their Infinity counterpart does (Archer, Protector, Storyteller respectively.)
Acmon was a Dactyl, Scylla was a psychopath betrayer, and Drakios is just a name.
Hector pretty much is a guaranteed ASS model. Considering how important he was to the Trojan War and how CB actually does their homework (with artistic liberties). He was supposedly a really good leader and a fighter on-par with Achilles (minus the divine invulnerability). Considering how he was a leader as well, he might have his own Enomatarchos group with a new unit (finally). Considering how much the Trojans loved their walls, maybe it'll be a HI group.
Plus, Hector was confirmed for Aleph a while back on a Mayanet podcast or something. It'd be silly to put him in the Vedic stuff.