WH40K FAQ is up on the official FB page.

Quite a big one at that, and I must say I appreciate the fact they are drafting to make sure the answers will be clear. Yet another step in the right direction.

Let's see how many complaints there will be about the FAQ, since now folks can't complain about the lack of one!

Link it!

Oh wow!

Some great rulings and some surprises...........

 Mr Morden wrote:
Oh wow!

Yeah. Some really big rulings.

 Ratius wrote:
Link it!

It's linked. The term display just colours it yellow. First sentence of my post.

Hopefully some good stuff is in there.

Gargantuans don't get toe in cover, can shoot all their weapons


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You DONT roll to hit for witch fires unless they have a profile

FNP never better than 2+

Only one grenade per unit can be used in assaults

Witchfire without profiles hit automatically

Wall of death works fine against Invisibility

A single model can only ever have one Relic unless noted otherwise! Big change for Marines - same old same old for others........... :(

 Mymearan wrote:
Gargantuans don't get toe in cover, can shoot all their weapons


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You DONT roll to hit for witch fires unless they have a profile

JUSTICE!! You can not imagine the amount of idiots who claimed they couldn't fire them all.

I like the "toe in ruins" nerf. Also Void Shield got made reasonable, which is good.

Holy crap, that's a lot of rulings. Making up for lost time, I guess, lol. Head... spins. I guess no more making fun about GW not writing FAQs


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 Runic wrote:
I like the "toe in ruins" nerf. Also Void Shield got made reasonable, which is good.

Agreed! Toe in ruins was stupid, glad they got rid of it.

Is there any codex specific stuff in the first draft yet? I want to know about the Tau and their Huntre Cadre formation if they share abilities to everyone shooting at a single target.

 Gamgee wrote:
Is there any codex specific stuff in the first draft yet? I want to know about the Tau and their Huntre Cadre formation if they share abilities to everyone shooting at a single target.

Not yet...........

WITCHFIRE POWERS
Q: Does Perfect Timing affect witchfire psychic powers?
A: No.

Q: Can you take a ‘Look Out, Sir’ roll against successful focussed witchfire powers, especially ones that don’t have a normal shooting profile?
A: Yes.

Q: Are witchfire psychic powers counted as Assault 1 if they have no profile (the Neurothrope’s Spirit Leech power, for example)?
A: No. If a witchfire power does not have a profile, follow the instructions written for that power instead (in the case of Spirit Leech, you simply pick the target unit which must then take a Leadership test on 3D6).

Q: Does the To Hit roll for certain witchfire powers that affect ‘targeted models’ care what the result of the To Hit roll is?
A: If a witchfire power does not have a profile, follow the instructions written for that power instead – this includes most focussed witchfire powers. If a witchfire power has a profile, the To Hit rolls matter in the same way as they do in any shooting attack.

Q: Can Psykers embarked in vehicles or buildings only cast witchfire powers? Does this include Psykers who are riders of a Chariot?
A: Psykers embarked in Transports or buildings can only cast witchfire powers. Psykers who are riders of Chariots can attempt to manifest any type of psychic power.

WEAPONS
Q: Can you clarify the use of a weapon as both a ranged and a melee weapon in the same turn?
A: A weapon that can be used as a ranged and a melee weapon can be used as both in the same turn unless specifically noted otherwise.

Q: When a model has a pistol and a close combat weapon, does it gain 1 or 2 additional attacks?
A: It gains 1 additional attack.

Q: A Dreadnought has Strength 6, and with power fists, has Strength x2. Does the Dreadnought have Strength 12 for the purposes of Instant Death?
A: Strength cannot be modified above 10.

Q: Which has precedence between a Lance weapon and quantum shielding? Both rules modify what Armour ‘counts as’.
A: The effects cancel out and the normal Armour Values are used.

Q: Heavy weapons and Salvo weapons are affected by movement – how does this work when firing Overwatch in the enemy’s turn?
A: When weapons are affected by movement in this way, it refers to movement in the preceding Movement phase. When firing Overwatch, the preceding Movement phase is your opponent’s, and your models are very unlikely to have moved in it! They would therefore count as not having moved.

Q: Do weapon special rules that say ‘a model equipped with this weapon’ or ‘this weapon’s bearer’ take effect even when not used as the attacking weapon?
A: Yes.

Q: Do Master-crafted combi-meltas (especially in the case of Salamander Chapter Tactics and Vulkan He’stan’s The Forgefather special rule) count as Master-crafted for both the bolter and the melta parts, or just the melta part?
A: Both the primary and secondary weapon of a Master-crafted combi-weapon are Master-crafted.

Q: If a unit with a Heavy weapon is forced to get out of a wrecked vehicle during the enemy's Shooting phase, but doesn’t move during its next Movement phase, does it fire normally or with Snap Shots?
A: It can fire normally.

Q: For units with Twin-linked weapons with the Gets Hot special rule – if the first shot is missed, but not on a rolled 1, and a 1 is rolled for the second shot, does it suffer a Gets Hot wound?
A: Yes.

Q: If a model has a Poisoned close combat weapon and a normal close combat weapon, does it gain the bonus attack for having two close combat weapons?
A: Yes.

Q: Do plasma cannons and other Gets Hot Blast weapons benefit from rules that allow them to re-roll To Hit rolls of 1? For example, a Clan Raukaan character wearing the Tempered Helm nominates a unit of friendly Devastators to re-roll To Hit rolls of 1 in this Shooting phase. These Devastators are all equipped with plasma cannons. Do they get to re-roll the Gets Hot roll if it comes up as 1?
A: No. The roll to see if a Gets Hot Blast weapon overheats is not a To Hit roll.

Q: Can a model fire a pistol in the Shooting phase and then still benefit from the extra attack in the ensuing Assault phase?
A: Yes.

VEHICLES
Q: Is a hull-mounted weapon’s arc of fire a total of 45° or 45° to either side? The chart seems to indicate the former, but we aren’t 100% certain.
A: Hull-mounted weapons have a total firing arc of 45°.

Q: Are models in a unit that destroyed a Walker in close combat allowed to Consolidate?
A: No.

Q: Can a vehicle that has Jinked, or which has a suffered a Crew Shaken or Crew Stunned result, use Power of the Machine Spirit to fire 1 weapon at full Ballistic Skill?
A: Yes.

Q: How can I shoot an infantry unit that stays behind a vehicle? Does it have cover saves? Сan I just shoot them normally, as if the vehicle is not there, or can I not shoot them at all? Do I need to destroy the vehicle first, or is there a way to kill infantry units behind vehicles?
A: If your firing unit has line of sight to the unit behind the vehicle, but the vehicle partially obscures the target unit, then the target unit receives a 5+ cover save. If your firing unit doesn’t have line of sight to a unit behind a vehicle, then it can’t shoot them unless your unit has weapons that do not need line of sight.

Q: In a situation where there are 4 penetrating hits on a vehicle with 3 Hull Points, are they rolled one at a time or all at once?
A: It doesn’t matter if you roll them all at once or one at a time, as long as you roll them all! You must roll on the Vehicle Damage table even if the vehicle loses sufficient Hull Points to be Wrecked, as there is still a chance that it might get an Explodes! result.

Q: I have a question about pivoting and moving a vehicle. When is the distance that a vehicle can move measured – before it pivots for the first time or after it pivots for the first time? Some vehicles may be able to gain an extra inch or two by pivoting, then measuring, then moving.
A: If a model moves, no part of the model (or its base) can finish the move more than the model’s move distance away from where it started the Movement phase.

Q: Do vehicles in the same squadron have to shoot at the same target? I noticed recently that a squadron is never referred to as a unit, just as a group of vehicles that must stay in coherence.
A: With noted exceptions, squadrons ‘are treated like normal units’ – in this specific case, Warhammer 40,000: The Rules states that ‘All of the weapons fired by a squadron of vehicles in each phase must target a single enemy unit’.

UNIT TYPES
Q: Do Jump units ignore height distances when charging and using jump packs? If a Jump unit uses its jump pack for the Assault phase, does it jump over difficult terrain?
A: No.

Q: Does a model with a jump pack or jet pack who leaves combat using the Hit & Run special rule do so using his jet/jump pack or moving as an Infantry unit?
A: They use their jump/jet pack.

Q: Are Beasts and Cavalry reduced to Initiative 1 when charging through difficult terrain?
A: Yes.

Q: Does vertical movement count towards maximum movement distance on jump pack and jet pack moves?
A: No.

Q: Can you clarify the wording around a rider shooting from a Chariot? As written, it appears to allow an Exalted Flamer to fire both weapons from a Burning Chariot while they can only fire one while on foot.
A: A rider can shoot ‘any ranged weapon’ (that is, any single weapon) they are equipped with – counting as stationary even if the Chariot moved in the previous Movement phase – alongside the Chariot’s weapons, though the Chariot and rider must target the same unit. In the specific example, the Burning Chariot itself has no weapons – the Daemonic Gifts are marked as belonging to the ‘Exalted Flamer only’ – and therefore the Exalted Flamer can use either the Blue Fire of Tzeentch or the Pink Fire of Tzeentch.

Q: Can a Jet Pack unit that has joined a different unit (e.g. a Necron Destroyer Lord joining Canoptek Wraiths) still use its jet pack move in the Assault phase?
A: Yes, but the model cannot leave its unit and must stay in unit coherency.

Q: When it states that all models in the unit must use the same movement type, does that restrict Independent Characters with the Bike unit type joining Jump or Jetbike units, for example?
A: Sometimes a unit will contain models that move at different speeds. When this is the case, each model can move up to its maximum movement allowance so long as it remains in unit coherency.

Q: How does a unit consisting of a mix of Cavalry, Bike, Jump Pack and Infantry models move, Run, Turbo-boost and charge? Do they all use their respective rules while maintaining squad coherency?
A: Yes. Models move individually, so in the Movement phase each model in this improbable unit can move up to their maximum movement allowance so long as the unit is in unit coherency at the end of the move. If the unit elects to Run, no models in the unit may shoot. The unit doesn’t benefit from the Cavalry model’s Fleet rule, as that only applies if every model in the unit has the Fleet rule. If the unit Runs, the Bike may Turbo-boost, but must finish its move in unit coherency. When charging, the Jump model may use its jump pack (if it did not do so in the Movement phase) to re-roll the charge distance for the unit.

TRANSPORTS
Q: If a vehicle with an invulnerable save (e.g. a Dark Eldar Venom through its Flickerfield) is hit by a Template weapon, do the models inside also benefit from it when resolving the No Escape rule?
A: No.

Q: Can models embarked inside an exploding vehicle benefit from cover saves (e.g. the Realspace Raiders Detachment who have a 5+ cover save on the first turn and any turns with Night Fighting, or models with the Stealth and/or Shrouded special rules)?
A: No.

Q: I have a question regarding unit special rules that affect all or some units within a certain range of a model or unit. How do these interact with units inside Transports, and what happens if the unit with the rule is inside a Transport?
A: When a unit embarks on a vehicle it is taken off the battlefield and does not interact with anything on the battlefield. However, certain rules may create exceptions to this rule, with the most obvious examples being Fire Points and psychic powers and Transports. If a unit’s rules are meant to apply even when embarked on a Transport, they will specify this.

Q: It’s not clear whether or not a unit that has destroyed a Transport can then charge the now-disembarked troops. The rule says ‘if allowed’ – does that mean as long as they haven’t fired weapons stopping them from charging, or do they need to have a special rule to be allowed to charge?
A: The unit that destroyed the Transport vehicle can charge the now-disembarked passengers so long as, for example, it hasn’t fired any weapons that prevent it from charging, it hasn’t Gone to Ground, it is within 12", and so forth. A unit doesn’t need a special rule to allow it to do so.

Q: Do units disembarking from a Deep Striking Transport also count as entering play via Deep Strike?
A: Yes.

Q: What happens to a unit if the Transport they are in moves over 6" and is Wrecked by your opponent in their turn?
A: If the unit passes their Pinning test, they can fire Overwatch if they are charged, so long as they were not forced to perform an emergency disembarkation. In their following turn they will act normally, though they will be unable to charge unless the vehicle transporting them had the Assault Vehicle rule. If they fail their Pinning test, the unit must Go to Ground.

TERRAIN
Q: Do the weapon options for a Vengeance Weapon Battery count as emplaced gun emplacements or just emplaced guns?
A: They are emplaced weapons, and cannot be used as gun emplacements – another model may not fire them.

Q: Can a Fortification Scout?
A: No.

Q: The coverage range of the Void Shield Generators’ void shields is 12". If a unit is not entirely within the 12" range, does it still benefit from the Projected Void Shield special rule?
A: No.

Q: Can Bikes, Super-heavy Walkers, Walkers, and Monstrous Creatures move and/or assault units on the higher levels of ruins?
A: Yes. For simplicity and ease of play, the core game rules allow most models to climb any piece of scenery. Use the ‘Wobbly Model Syndrome’ rule if it is not possible to place the model in the position it is meant to be occupying. If you wish, you may want to say that models are only allowed to move to places that they could reach ‘in real life’, but you will need to apply a certain amount of common sense and discretion in order to make such a rule work well.

Q: Can a unit on the battlements of a building be assaulted?
A: Yes, if the assaulting unit’s charge move is sufficient to reach it and there is room for at least one enemy unit on the battlements.

Q: If a vehicle model fully crosses over an Aegis Defence Line using its movement or Flat Out (as opposed to beginning or ending partially on it), does the vehicle still take a dangerous terrain test?
A: Yes.

Q: Do Gauss, Melta, Haywire, and Graviton special rules affect void shields?
A: Yes. Graviton hits cause the field to collapse on a roll of 6.

Q: Do Flyers, Super-heavy vehicles, Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures and Gargantuan Creatures gain cover while standing on the ‘base’ of a terrain piece, e.g. ruins or dense thickets, or do they need to be at least 25% obscured by the scenery for cover to apply?
A: The 25% rule applies in all types of terrain if the target is a Flyer, Super-heavy Vehicle, Flying Monstrous Creature or Gargantuan Creature. All other targets count as being in cover if they are in or on the terrain’s base, even if not 25% obsured.

Q: If you are on top of, under, or inside terrain (such as a ruined building or crater), but an enemy unit can see your model completely, do you get a cover save from being inside, on top of, or under a terrain piece?
A: Most scenery has a rule which makes clear whether your models need to be obscured to get the cover save. You should discuss unusual scenery with your opponent before the game.

Q: Does an Aegis Defence Line have to be deployed as one continuous line?
A: Yes.

Q: When measuring special rules that use a radius whilst in a building, does the escape hatch count as part of the building?
A: No.

Q: Can an opponent assault an escape hatch – the unit can’t assault out of one but can it be assaulted as a normal Access Point?
A: No.

Q: Does a void shield intercept Psychic Shriek?
A: No.

Q: If both players have models in base contact with a gun emplacement, which player controls it?
A: They both do.

Q: A ruin (e.g. a Shrine of the Aquila) is treated as difficult terrain, but does this mean that models can move through the walls?
A: No.

Q: What cover save do you get behind the petals of a Skyshield Landing Pad?
A: None – the cover provided is represented by the Shielded special rule.

Q: Can the petals of a Skyshield Landing Pad be opened in a Dawn of War deployment?
A: Yes.

Q: Do all flamer weapons benefit from the Fuel Siphon special rule for the Promethium Relay Pipes? Some of them are a bit contentious.
A: All weapons that are specifically noted as being flamer weapons receive the benefit of the Promethium Pipes special rule.

Q: Does a model that benefits from a cover save benefit from a void shield as well? For example, does an infantry model sitting on top of the battlement of a Void Shield Generator benefit from the cover save before the void shield is stripped?
A: No.

TANK SHOCK
Q: How do you resolve a Tank Shock with a squadron (e.g. does it cause multiple Morale checks)?
A: Each vehicle carries out a Tank Shock individually.

Q: How does Tank Shock work when you stop on a unit? The rules state that the models ‘must be moved out of the way by the shortest distance’ – but what does this mean? The shortest distance that allows you to be in unit coherency? Or the shortest distance to just be out from under the vehicle, with models dying if not in unit coherency and at least 1" away from enemy units? What happens if a Gargantuan Creature or Monstrous Creature or any other non-vehicle unit gets Tank Shocked, but cannot move to another place in the shortest way? Are they destroyed or just moved further away?
A: Pick the unit up, and place it on the battlefield with all models as close as possible to the unit’s original location, with all models in unit coherency, and no models within 1" of an enemy unit. The intent of this rule is simply to deal with situations where two models end up occupying the same space – it is NOT meant to provide players with a way of destroying the unit that is being Tank Shocked.

Q: When determining the Strength of a vehicle’s Ram, are the Tank and Heavy bonuses cumulative?
A: No.

Q: When vehicles Ram, they may only fire Snap Shots for that turn. There is no allowance that I can find for Super-heavy Tanks and Thunderblitz does not seem to affect this part of the Ram rule. According to the rules, then, If a Baneblade Rams (with a Thunderblitz roll) a Warbuggy, the Baneblade can only fire Snap Shots. Is this intended?
A: Yes.

Q: What happens when you fail a Tank Shock or Ram when arriving from Reserve in such a way that the vehicle would end the movement partly off the battlefield?
A: If following the Tank Shock or Ram you cannot place the vehicle entirely on the battlefield, it is destroyed.

SUPER-HEAVY VEHICLES
Q: Can Super-heavy Walkers (e.g. Imperial Knights) disengage from combat?
A: No.

Q: Do units embarked on a Super-heavy vehicle fire Snap Shots if it moves more than 6"?
A: Yes.

Q: Can a Super-heavy Flyer that has a Hover mode Thunderblitz?
A: No.

Q: Do you have to select all targets before any dice are rolled for the weapons mounted on a Super-heavy vehicle? If that is the case, are One Use Only/One Shot Only weapons used up if a previous weapon destroyed the target that the One Use Only/One Shot Only weapon was going to shoot?
A: Yes, to both questions.


STOMP
Q: Are cover saves allowed against Stomp attacks?
A: No.

Q: Can ‘Look Out, Sir’ attempts be made against Stomp attacks?
A: Yes.

Q: Can you Stomp an Invisible unit?
A: Yes.

Q: When you make a Stomp attack in close combat and cause casualties outside of those in the combat, do the units outside of combat have to take Morale checks as if suffering 25% casualties, if they lose 25% or more?
A: Yes.

Q: Can Stomp attacks affect units which are not locked in combat with the Stomping model?
A: Yes.

Q: Can I attempt invulnerable saves or use the Eternal Warrior special rule against Stomp attacks that cause a model to be removed as a casualty?
A: No.

CHARACTERS
Q: Can you attempt ‘Look Out, Sir’ for Wounds allocated outside of the Shooting and Assault phases?
A: Yes.

Q: The ‘Look Out, Sir’ rule states that Wounds must be allocated to the closest model in the unit to the character. What if you have multiple models that are equidistant? Do you have to allocate all ‘Look Out, Sir’ hits to a particular model until it is removed, or can you shift the Wounds to other equidistant models (assuming, of course, that they have multiple Wounds)?
A: You must apply all Wounds to the same model until it is removed.


STEALTH & SHROUDED
Q: Does Stealth stack with Stealth? Or Shrouded with Shrouded?
A: No.

Q: Can you clear up exactly which rules stack and how when estimating cover saves? I’m thinking about Stealth, Shrouded, bonuses from cover, units, psychic powers, Venomthropes, Jink, etc.
A: All of the above rules stack with each other (for example, a model with Stealth and Shrouded gains a +3 bonus to their cover saves). The same rule does not stack with itself though (for example, a model that has the Stealth special rule from two sources still only has a +1 modifier to their cover save, and a model that is Jinking and is in cover can only benefit from one of these cover saves).


SPECIAL RULES
Q: Does a model with Preferred Enemy (Independent Characters) benefit from the rule when attacking a squad with an Independent Character in it?
A: No.

Q: If a Hit & Run roll would take me off the table, do I stop at the table edge?
A: Yes.

Q: The Strikedown rule states that attacks with it cause the enemy unit to move as though through difficult terrain. Does this carry over onto a Super-heavy Walker’s guns?
A: Strikedown only applies to the Super-heavy Walker’s Stomp attacks.

Q: The Vortex rule states that the marker for a Vortex weapon counts as impassable terrain. As such, must any miniatures that survive the hit and are still beneath the template move away?
A: Yes. If they cannot move away in their next Movement phase, then they are destroyed.

Q: How do special rules like Hatred, Preferred Enemy and Monster Hunter work when targeting a mixed unit that contains models your special rule effects as well as models it doesn’t?
A: The rules mentioned are only used if all models in the target unit are of the appropriate type.

Q: What method is used to resolve potentially conflicting special rules (e.g. a Dark Talon’s Statis Bomb’s Vast Stasis Anomaly vs Reanimation Protocols)?
A: The two rules cancel out and neither is used.

Q: When something states that it happens at the start of the game turn but both players have a rule that happens at the start of the game turn, how do you determine which rule is resolved first?
A: The players should roll-off to determine whose rule applies first.

Q: Does having a bonus To Wound affect Rending?
A: No, the automatic Wounds still only apply on the roll of a 6.

Q: When a model uses a rule with a wording similar to ‘count [characteristic] as’ or ‘use the [characteristic] of model X’, do we read the characteristic as if it were in the affected model’s original profile before we apply modifiers?
A: Yes.

Q: Does a rule written like the markerlight ability ‘Seeker’ – ‘resolved at Ballistic Skill 5’ – bypass the modifier system?
A: No.

Q: When a model has Furious Charge as well as a power fist, does the 2x Strength modification happen before the +1 Strength modification?
A: Yes.

Q: Does Move Through Cover allow units to strike at their normal Initiative?
A: No.

Q: Does a Hammer of Wrath attack always hit the front armour of a Walker?
A: No, it hits the armour the attacker is facing.

Q: Does a shooting attack without the Rending special rule still count as Rending when the model firing has the Rending special rule?
A: No. If a model has the Rending special rule only their close combat attacks benefit from this rule, not their shooting attacks.

SKYFIRE AND INTERCEPTOR
Q: Can a model with Skyfire and Interceptor shoot at targets that are not Flyers with its full Ballistic Skill when they deploy from Reserve (e.g. Drop Pods)?
A: No.

Q: Can Interceptor weapons fire at a unit that disembarked from a Transport that arrived from Reserve?
A: Yes.

SKIMMERS
Q: Do Skimmers arriving from Deep Strike automatically get moved if they scatter on top of an enemy unit?
A: No.

Q: Must the passengers of a Fast Skimmer fire Snap Shots if their Transport moved more than 6"?
A: Yes.

SHOOTING PHASE
Q: Does an Imperial Knight get to use its ion shield – or a Big Mek with kustom force field get an invulnerable save – against hits caused by a model that suffers an Explodes! result in the Shooting phase?
A: Yes.

Q: When does vertical distance matter? For example, are shooting attacks only affected by the horizontal distance?
A: Measurements for shooting are (for most models) measured from base to base. Where one model is more elevated than the other, this will mean measuring the distance diagonally.

SAVES
Q: Warhammer 40,000: The Rules states that a model gets ‘the advantage of always using the best available save’. Does that mean we have to use the numerically lowest save, or do we have the option of using any save we have?
A: The controlling player can use their discretion as to which of their model’s saves is ‘the best’.

PSYCHIC PHASE
Q: If there are 2 Daemon Psykers who cast Cursed Earth and they are within 12" of each other, do they have a +2 bonus to their invulnerable save, since the spell says this is cumulative with any other bonus?
A: No. Modifiers from identical psychic powers do not stack.

Q: Do non-psychic powers with an area of effect (‘aura’ powers like the Tau Ethereal’s Invocation of the Elements, or the effects of many Warlord Traits) extend from the hull of a Transport that the model with the power is embarked within?
A: No, non-psychic powers such as those described cannot be used by models embarked upon a Transport unless specifically noted otherwise.

Q: If a unit includes multiple Independent Character Psykers, can they cast the same power (e.g. Psychic Shriek) multiple times, once for each Independent Character?
A: No.

Q: If I have Tigurius and a Grey Knights Librarian in the same unit, can Tigurius use his re-roll for a power known by the Librarian?
A: No.

Q: The Telekinesis psychic power Crush – when you roll for Strength and get an 11 or 12 it counts as an automatic wound or penetrating hit. For the purposes of Instant Death, what Strength does it count as?
A: Strength 10.

Q: How does a power that targets ‘the Psyker’ but not his unit work on a unit with Brotherhood of Psykers? If, for example, a Wyrdvane Psyker squad casts Iron Arm, does one model nominated as ‘the caster’ receive the benefits?
A: The power applies to all ‘Brotherhood of Psykers’ models in the unit.

Q: Is the maximum number of powers a Psyker can use in their turn equal to their Mastery Level, or the number of powers they have (due to Psychic Focus they often have one more power than their Mastery Level)?
A: Unless explicitly permitted to do so, Psykers may not attempt to manifest more psychic powers than the number of their Mastery Level within a single Psychic phase.

Q: Can Space Marines really summon Daemons? And even summon Daemons on a roll of 2+ using the Librarius Conclave’s Empyric Channelling?
A: Yes, to both questions.

Q: When attempting to Deny the Witch on a blessing or conjuration, do you select a unit first to make the attempt? If so, how is it selected, and if that unit has a re-roll on Deny the Witch, do you get that as well?
A: You do not select a unit. If none of your units were the target of the enemy’s psychic power (as is the case with blessing and conjuration powers) you can still attempt to Deny the Witch, but with no re-rolls or modifiers to your dice rolls – you will require rolls of 6 to nullify each Warp Charge point.

Q: If you play Daemons and you successfully summon a Bloodthirster using the Daemonology psychic powers, what profile will the Bloodthirster have: the one in Codex: Chaos Daemons, or one of the ones in Codex: Khorne Daemonkin?
A:You can choose to use any of the army list entries from Codex: Chaos Daemons, Codex: Khorne Daemonkin or War Zone Fenris: Curse of the Wulfen – but not Skarbrand!

Q: Do the effects of multiple castings of the same malediction cast on the same turn stack? For example, can additional castings of Banishment continue to reduce a Daemon’s invulnerable save?
A: No. As with blessings, the penalty from any particular malediction can only affect a unit once per turn.

Q: Do units that move 12" with the psychic power Levitation shoot using their full Ballistic Skill or can they only fire Snap Shots?
A: They shoot as though they had moved in the preceding Movement phase.

Q: How many dice does a Mastery Level 2 Librarian joined with a Mastery Level 1 Grey Knights Strike Squad generate for their Warp Charge pool?
A: Three.

Q: If the Veil of Darkness is used while with a group of warriors and you go into Ongoing Reserves due to a Deep Strike Mishap, can you come in by Deep Striking?
A: Only if all of the models involved have the Deep Strike rule.

OVERWATCH
Q: How many shooting attacks can I do when firing Overwatch?
A: As many as the model can fire in the Shooting phase.

Q: Are units that are Falling Back allowed to Overwatch if a charge is declared against them?
A: No.

Q: Does a flamer firing Overwatch have a range?
A: No.

Q: How many shots do Salvo weapons get when firing Snap Shots in Overwatch, if the unit moved in their previous player turn?
A: When determining if the unit moved for the purposes of firing Salvo weapons, only the previous Movement phase is considered. In the case of firing Overwatch, this will have been your opponent’s Movement phase, and therefore the unit firing Overwatch is very unlikely to have moved. As a consequence, it counts as having not moved, and can fire the higher number of shots with its weapons that have the Salvo type.

Q: Do abilities that allow a model to fire an extra weapon in the Shooting phase allow them to fire an extra weapon in Overwatch or while intercepting (e.g. Monstrous Creatures and Tau multi-trackers)?
A: Yes. In the case of Interceptor, only weapons with the Interceptor rule can be fired.

Q: How does Overwatch work when a unit is assaulted by multiple enemy units in the same turn? Can the assaulted unit choose against which one it fires or does it have to fire against the first unit to declare a charge?
A: You can choose not to fire Overwatch against units that declare a charge against your unit, but you must do so as each charge is declared – you can’t wait until all charges are declared before deciding which unit(s) to fire Overwatch against. Obviously, if you’re successfully charged by one of your opponent’s units, you can’t fire Overwatch against subsequent chargers as you’re locked in combat.

ORDNANCE
Q: Can a Fast vehicle fire Ordnance weapons at Cruising Speed?
A: A Fast vehicle that fires an Ordnance weapon can only make Snap Shots with its other weapons that turn, but can fire a single Ordnance weapon at its full Ballistic Skill, even at Cruising Speed.

Q: If you fire an Ordnance weapon from a Stationary vehicle, are all other shots Snap Shots? What about when moving? How is this altered if the vehicle is a Heavy Tank (e.g. a Leman Russ Demolisher with plasma cannon sponsons), or Fast, or a Flyer (e.g. when firing hellstrike missiles, does firing the first missile mean that the second is fired as a Snap Shot)?
A: A vehicle that fires an Ordnance weapon can only make Snap Shots with its other weapons that turn (whether Stationary or moving). A vehicle being Heavy has no effect on firing Ordnance weapons. A Fast vehicle that fires an Ordnance weapon can only make Snap Shots with its other weapons that turn, but can fire a single Ordnance weapon at its full Ballistic Skill even at Cruising Speed. A Flyer firing two hellstrike missiles in a turn fires both at the same time, as described in the ‘Select a Weapon’ step of the Shooting phase. Both missiles would be fired at the Flyer’s full Ballistic Skill – all other weapons could only make Snap Shots that turn.

Q: Are Ordnance weapons and Heavy vehicles supposed to interact differently?
A: The Heavy unit type has no effect on the firing of Ordnance weapons. If a Heavy vehicle doesn’t fire an Ordnance weapon, it can fire all of its weapons at full Ballistic Skill when moving at Combat Speed.

Q: The rules state that if a vehicle fires an Ordnance weapon, all other weapons must be fired as Snap Shots – does the firing order matter?
A: No, the firing order doesn’t matter.

Q: Are there ever any circumstances that allow a vehicle with an Ordnance weapon the ability to fire it as Snap Shots? Say the weapon in question is not of a type (Blast or Template) that may not be fired as a Snap Shot, but another circumstance requires Snap Shots (the vehicle is under the effect of Crew Shaken or Crew Stunned). Can it fire Ordnance weapons?
A: Yes. Provided the weapon in question is not a Blast or Template weapon (or otherwise cannot be fired as Snap Shots) a vehicle can fire an Ordnance weapon as Snap Shots (such as when Crew Stunned).

Q: For the purposes of Heavy, Ordnance, and Salvo weapons, does the Slow and Purposeful special rule allow units embarked on a Transport to fire as if they remained Stationary if the vehicle moves at Cruising Speed but not Flat Out?
A: No. Units embarked on a Transport that moved at Combat Speed count as having moved that turn, units embarked on a Transport that moved at Cruising Speed can only fire Snap Shots that turn, and if a vehicle moves Flat Out its passengers cannot fire at all that turn.

Q: Can a model with an Ordnance weapon and Power of the Machine Spirit still fire another weapon at full Ballistic Skill?
A: Yes.

NOVAS & BEAMS
Q: On Cleansing Flame – if two enemy units are in range, are there 2D6 hits divided amongst the two enemy units, or 2D6 hits for each enemy unit? If the latter, how many times do you roll the 2D6 – once, or twice?
A: Each enemy unit hit suffers 2D6 hits. Roll separately for each unit.

Q: A beam attack does not target a unit – can you still Jink?
A: Yes.

Q: Can you cast blessings, maledictions and nova powers from Open-topped vehicles?
A: Transported units can only use witchfire powers.

SHOOTING PHASE
Q: Does an Imperial Knight get to use its ion shield – or a Big Mek with kustom force field get an invulnerable save – against hits caused by a model that suffers an Explodes! result in the Shooting phase?
A: Yes.

Q: When does vertical distance matter? For example, are shooting attacks only affected by the horizontal distance?
A: Measurements for shooting are (for most models) measured from base to base. Where one model is more elevated than the other, this will mean measuring the distance diagonally.

MONSTROUS & GARGANTUAN CREATURES
Q: How does a Flying Monstrous Creature’s Hard to Hit rule work when part of a unit without the rule?
A: It cannot be used.

Q: How does a Gargantuan Creature move through difficult terrain? A previous official FAQ clarified that a Super-heavy Walker rolls 2D6 and doubles the highest result, but said nothing about Gargantuan Creatures.
A: Roll 3D6 (due to the Move Through Cover special rule) and double the highest result.

Q: Can Gargantuan Creatures shoot all of their weapons at different targets, or can they only shoot two different weapons at two different targets?
A: They can shoot all of their weapons, at different targets if desired.

Q: Do Monstrous Creatures fire Overwatch with one weapon or up to two (they can use up to two during each Shooting phase)?
A: Up to two.

Q: If a Gargantuan Creature destroys a vehicle or other type of unit after striking at Initiative step 1, does it still get to Stomp if there’s nothing left in combat?
A: Yes.

Q: Do Gargantuan Creatures/Super-heavy vehicles need to declare all of the targets for all of their weapons before resolving any of the shooting attacks?
A: Yes.

Q: If a Monstrous Creature is also an Independent Character, can it join other units? Can other Independent Characters then join the unit that the Monstrous Creature is now a part of?
A: Yes to the first question. No to the second question.

Q: Do Blast weapons hit Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures?
A: No.

Q: Can a Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature or Zooming Flyer be targeted by a Blast or Template weapon with the Skyfire special rule?
A: Yes.

MODELS
Q: Can a model choose between saves, even if one save is numerically inferior? For example, can a Ravenwing Biker take a 4+ re-rollable Jink save over its 3+ Armour Save?
A: Yes.

Q: What does ‘base contact’ or ‘base-to-base contact’ mean? Are two models in base contact if one is on a step, and their bases are not in (and cannot be put in) physical contact? Or if they are more separated than that e.g. on different levels, where a charge distance is sufficient for the charging model to reach the level containing the other unit, but it cannot be placed on the level above?
A: An element of common sense is required here. If they’re only fractionally apart due to the vagaries of scenery they count as being in base contact. However, though models on different levels of a building can be locked in combat with one another, they will not be considered in base contact with one another for the purposes of special rules or equipment that require models to be in base contact to take effect.

Q: How do you handle situations where you are attempting to charge a model that is on top of something, where there is no room for a model to be in base contact?
A: The ‘Wobbly Model Syndrome’ rule applies – place the model as near as possible, and keep a note of its actual position. It is assumed to be in base contact with the other model.

Q: In rules that say ‘within X inches’, do you mean wholly within or partially within?
A: Partially within, unless specifically stated otherwise.

Q: What are the official rules regarding specific base sizes for specific models (if any)?
A: The rules assume that models are mounted on the base they are supplied with, but it’s entirely fine to mount them on whichever base you think is appropriate. Sometimes, a player may have models in their collection on unusually modelled bases. Some models aren’t supplied with a base at all. In these cases you should always feel free to mount the model on a base of appropriate size if you wish, using models of a similar type as guidance.

Q: Can any part of a model intentionally hang off the edge of the table?
A: No part of a model may hang over the edge of the battlefield, except for parts that are explicitly ignored while checking line of sight (e.g. the wings or tail of a non-vehicle model).

Q: When I am using ‘long’ or ‘oval’ Cavalry/Bikes/Monstrous Creatures’ bases, am I allowed to pivot the base on the spot to gain additional movement like vehicles would?
A: When making a move, you have to take into account how far all parts of the model have moved. Or to put that another way, trying to come up with a way of making a move that allows a model to move ‘further’ than its maximum movement distance is illegal. It is not allowed for a model to move 6" towards or away from something, and end up more than 6" closer to or further away from it!

Q: Please confirm if a model may never be in coherency unless the model’s entire unit has unit coherency.
A: A model cannot be in coherency unless its entire unit is in coherency. Coherency is determined when a unit has finished moving, not during the move.

Q: What is the vertical firing arc for shooting from Flyers, and how is this split between targets above and below the shooter?
A: Assume that weapons can swivel 45° vertically, either 45° upwards, or 45° downwards.

Q: Do Super-heavy Walkers shoot at targets from where their weapon is modeled or from the base?
A: Super-heavy Walkers’ weapons are assumed to swivel horizontally and vertically up to 45°. Range is measured from the weapon itself and line of sight is measured from the mounting point of the weapon and along its barrel, as is normal for vehicles.

Q: With regard to Bike and Artillery models, I measure from their weapons when they are shooting, and to their bases when they are shot at. Is this correct?
A: When Artillery models fire, range is measured from the barrel of the gun on the model. When Bike models fire, range is measured from the base. When firing at Artillery or Bike models, range is measured to the base.

Q: Warhammer 40,000: The Rules states that line of sight can be drawn from any part of the model (not including wings, tail, etc.) to the intended target. Can my model’s foot truly be used as a line of sight starting point?
A: For simplicity and ease of play, the rules state that ‘For one model to have line of sight to another, you must be able to trace a straight, unblocked line from its body (the head, torso, arms or legs) to any part of the target’s body.’ If you wish, you and your opponent may agree that models are only allowed to draw line of sight from the upper body of a model, or some other area, but you will need to apply a certain amount of common sense and discretion in order to make such a rule work well.

Q: Do a Flyer’s wings and tail count as part of its hull? (e.g. If you can only see a wing can you shoot at it? If you are only in range of the wing can you shoot at or charge it? When hovering, can the wing get you Linebreaker if it is within 12" of the board edge?)
A: Yes, a Flyer’s wings are tail are considered part of the hull in all respects.
Q: Can Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures be hit by nova and beam powers?
A: Yes for nova powers, no for beam powers.

Q: Does Jinking prevents a Flying Monstrous Creature from Vector Striking?
A: Yes.

Q: Can a Monstrous Creature charge multiple units?
A: Yes.

Q: Can Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures be hit with Blast or Template attacks that don’t target them, such as scattered Blasts and vehicle explosions?
A: No.

Q: After my Flying Monstrous Creature is Grounded, when I choose to use the Swooping flight mode again the next turn, can I change his forward-facing direction, or is it still stuck in the direction it was Swooping in before it hit the ground?
A: It is still stuck facing in the direction it was Swooping in when it struck the ground.

Q: Do Flying Monstrous Creatures have the Deep Strike special rule?
A: Yes.

Q: Does a Gargantuan Creature gain the benefit of Strikedown on its shooting attacks?
A: No.

Q: Are Gargantuan Creatures Monstrous Creatures with additional rules, or are they their own creature type?
A: They are both Monstrous Creatures and Gargantuan Creatures.

Q: Are Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures scoring units?
A: No, as it’s one of the exceptions listed in the ‘Scoring Units’ section of Warhammer 40,000: The Rules.

MISSIONS
Q: Can a unit go back into Reserve the same player turn that it came onto the board from Reserve?
A: No.

Q: Can killing an Independent Character joined to another unit, without wiping out the leftover unit, result in First Blood?
A: Yes.

Q: Do the sudden death victory conditions still apply in games of Maelstrom of War?
A: Yes.

Q: Mission rules question. We were playing the Maelstrom of War: Contact Lost mission, and you generate new Tactical Objectives for each objective you control at the start of a player’s turn. If I Deep Strike a unit onto an objective at the start of my turn, does it allow me to take an extra objective card? Both Deep Striking and objectives count as happening at the same time – am I correct in thinking that I can decide the sequence?
A: Yes, you can decide the sequence.

Q: What books/codexes/supplements are the most current?
A: We recommend you use the latest published books that are in your collection – the copyright date (which is usually beneath the contents) will let you know which book is the most recent. Some older books might not work with the latest rules, and it’s up to you and your opponent to agree which to use.

Q: Does Warhammer 40,000: The Rules (7th edition) override Codex: Stronghold Assault?
A: Yes. This is an exception to the normal rules, in which expansions override the rulebook.

Q: In a game of Carnage, can you shoot into a close combat which involves other players’ forces but none of yours?
A: No.

Q: In a game of Carnage, how many Warp Charges points do players get when it’s not their turn?
A: They all get a D6 roll plus their own psykers’ Mastery Levels..

Q: Do allies who are not Battle Bothers contest objectives?
A: Yes.

Q: In the Maelstrom of War: The Spoils of War mission, it states that ‘Secure Objective X’ cards can only be discarded when either player achieves them. The Divination power Scrier’s Gaze allows you to discard one Tactical Objective. Which takes precedence – the psychic power or the mission wording?
A: The mission wording takes precedence.

Q: If your Warlord is in Reserves, can you use their traits for re-rolling Reserves?
A: Yes.

Q: Do non-scoring and non-victory-point units such as Spore Mines count as ‘units destroyed’ on Tactical Objective cards?
A: Yes, unless specifically stated otherwise.

Q: Since a player automatically loses at the end of any game turn in which he has no models on the table, does a player taking a Detachment that requires him to start all his models in Reserve (such as the Ravenwing Strike Force with Flyers) automatically lose every game he plays?
A: A player who takes an army that consists entirely of units and/or Detachments which must be set up in Reserve, with no special rule that allows them to arrive in the first game turn, will automatically lose the game. We do not recommend choosing an army like this!

Q: For the First Blood Victory Point – if both units kill each other off at Initiative step 1, does anyone get First Blood, or is it carried over to the next unit to be lost?
A: Both players score a point for First Blood in this case.

Q: On deployment. Online and at our club, we tend to roll for who takes which side of the table first, then roll for who will deploy first. Is this ok?
A: This is fine.

Q: Can you clarify the term ‘deploy’?
A: ‘Deploy’ is a word for setting up a unit on the battlefield – this is something you do during deployment, but also when units arrive from Reserve and so on. ‘Deployment’ is the stage in ‘Preparing For Battle’ where the players set up their armies on the battlefield.

Q: Does a unit always enter the game from Reserves when Deep Striking? The rules for Deep Striking seem to imply that being the case, even when a unit is already on the table. As an example, does a unit of Warp Talons that is using Gate of Infinity trigger its Warpflame Strike each time they use the psychic power?
A: Not unless explicitly stated – in the example you use, Gate of Infinity has the unit arrive anywhere on the board using the rules for Deep Strike. This doesn’t mean that it goes into Deep Strike Reserve, or that you have to make a Reserve Roll for the unit and so on, and it means that you don’t get to use the Warpflame Strike each time you do this.

Q: What points level do you suggest for a standard game?
A: Games can be of any size – the larger the game, the longer it will take. We find it best to discuss the size of game you want to play with your opponent.

Q: If a unit enters the battlefield using Outflank, are they considered to have moved for the purposes of firing heavy weapons?
A: Units moving on from Reserve do so at the start of the Movement phase, before any other units can move. This means that they are always considered to have moved in the turn they arrive.

Q: When a Tactical Objective refers to a unit being in a deployment zone, does it mean the whole unit, i.e. every single model?
A: A single model from the unit being within the deployment zone is sufficient.

JINK
Q: Do Immobilised Skimmers get Jink?
A: No.

Q: Does a unit that is embarked on a Transport that Jinks also count as having Jinked in the following Shooting phase?
A: Yes.

Q: Are passengers in Jinking Transports forced to fire Snap Shots?
A: Yes.

Q: If a blast template scatters onto a Skimmer, can that Skimmer still Jink even though it was not actually targeted by the shot?
A: Yes.

Q: Can you Jink against Overwatch attacks?
A: Yes.

Q: Can a model Jink if it is part of a unit without that rule?
A: Yes.

Q: Can a Flyer perform a bombing run the turn after it Jinks?
A: No.

Q: Can you Jink and Go to Ground?
A: No.

INVISIBILITY
Q: If a unit has a flamer and they are charged by a model using the Invisibility psychic power, can they use the Wall of Death rule?
A: Yes.

Q: Can Template weapons target invisible units?
A: Only when using the Wall of Death rule.

Q: Is Invisibility affected by Ballistic Skill modifiers?
A: Only if the modifier states that it specifically affects Snap Shots.

Q: How does the Invisibility psychic power work in relation to nova and beam powers, and Template and Blast weapons not initially targeting the invisible unit?
A: You cannot choose to target an invisible unit with such attacks, but should models from the unit end up beneath the template, marker or line of fire, then they can be hit using the normal rules. The invisible unit would be hit if it was on the line of a beam, if it was in the range of a nova, or if a blast ended up being scattered onto it. For Template weapons, as long as you follow the rules – ensuring that the template ‘covers as many models in the target unit as possible, without touching any other friendly units’ – then if the invisible unit was also fully or partially under the template, it would be hit.

INTERVENING MODELS
Q: In the rules for cover saves it says that intervening models grant cover even if the model is fully visible unless you shoot over the intervening models. Does this include models that are taller than the intervening models i.e. are taller models able to shoot over shorter models?
A: Yes, as long as the line of sight for the weapon being used is not obscured by the intervening models and does not pass through a gap between the models in the intervening unit.

Q: Does an Infantry model count as intervening for a Monstrous Creature or a Gargantuan Creature?
A: If that Infantry model partially obscures the target from the firer, then yes. In most cases, however, Monstrous and Gargantuan Creatures will be tall enough to shoot over the intervening Infantry.

Q: Models obscured by intervening models get a 5+ cover save just like the cover rules of terrain. Does this mean that I only get the cover save if the models are obscured by more than 25%?
A: No – the target only needs to be partially obscured. If, on the other hand, the target is completely visible to the firer, but the firer shoots through a gap between models in the intervening unit, then the target still receives a 5+ cover save.

INFILTRATE & SCOUT
Q: Does a unit that is embarked in a Scout vehicle count as having made a Scout move?
A: Yes.

Q: Are models with the Infiltrate special rule allowed to not use the rule to deploy and then charge normally in the first turn?
A: Yes.

Q: If a vehicle has Infiltrate, can you embark a unit inside it before deployment and then Infiltrate it onto the battlefield inside the vehicle?
A: No.

Q: Do Scout redeployments take place before or after the player going second is given the chance to Seize the Initiative?
A: After.

Q: Does deploying with Outflank count as moving for the purpose of shooting?
A: Yes.

Q: If you Infiltrate a unit of Pathfinders from a Ranged Support Cadre and then move them via their Scout special rule, does the unit count as having moved from their starting loc

INDEPENDENT CHARACTERS
Q: Infiltrate rules state that an Independent Character without Infiltrate cannot join a squad of Infiltrators. Does this mean a squad that is actively Infiltrating or just any unit that has the Infiltrate rule? This matters for things like Outflank (granted freely by the Infiltrate rule) and Infiltrate units that have Deep Strike.
A: An Independent Character without the Infiltrate special rule cannot join a unit of Infiltrators during deployment, whether they are Infiltrating, Deep Striking, Outflanking or deploying normally. They are free to join units as they wish after deployment.

Q: If I’m using a special Detachment, such as the Nemesis Strike Force Detachment, and add Independent Characters from Battle Brother Factions (e.g. the Librarius Conclave), can they all still benefit from the first turn deployment and come in together?
A: No, the rules for Detachments and Formations only apply to models/units that are part of the Detachment or Formation.

Q: Do rules applying to ‘the unit’, such as those from Formation command benefits (e.g. the Skyhammer Annihilation Force), or unit-wide special rules such as Dunestrider from Codex: Skitarii apply to any attached Independent Characters?
A: No.

Q: If I have two different Independent Character Psykers in the same unit, can both of them attempt to cast the same power in the same Psychic phase?
A: No.

Q: If two Independent Characters are locked in combat, can a third Independent Character enter combat and issue a challenge, thereby engaging rules that may impact said combat? This is in regards to the Shard of Anaris becoming Instant Death, etc.
A: Yes, unless the two Independent Characters are already fighting an ongoing challenge. If they are, the third character can make a Glorious Intervention.

Q: Can a unit ever attack a model in a challenge?
A: Yes, but only after all other enemy models in that combat have been slain.

Q: If a unit charges a single-character unit and a challenge is issued, do the non-character units still get to attack the single character?
A: Yes.

Q: If a model in a challenge that isn’t Initiative 10 gets an attack at Initiative 10 (Hammer of Wrath, mandiblasters, etc.) with which it kills the opponent, what happens when it reaches its normal Initiative?
A: It can still attack, rolling against the Weapon Skill and Toughness of the slain opponent, and allocating the excess wounds that are caused to other opponents as described in the ‘Combatant Slain’ rule.

Q: Challenges vs outside forces. When 2 units (of more than 1 model) fight, the rule is clear, however if one of the units is a single model (e.g. a character or Monstrous Creature), it isn’t.
A: You can only allocate Wounds to a model taking part in a challenge if there are no other enemy models you can allocate wounds to.

Q: If an Independent Character with Slow and Purposeful joins a unit, does that entire unit now count as being Slow and Purposeful?
A: Yes.

Q: Can an Independent Character Monstrous Creature join another Independent Character to form a unit?
A: No.

GRENADES
Q: Do defensive grenades remove one additional attack or all additional bonuses given by a charge (e.g. for models with Hammer of Wrath or Furious Charge)?
A: Additional bonuses are unaffected – the only penalty received by models charging a unit with any models equipped with defensive grenades is that they do not gain bonus Attacks from charging.

Q: Using grenades in the Assault phase. Can every model replace their close combat attacks with a single grenade attack or just one model in the unit? Like in the Shooting phase e.g. a unit of 5 Tau Pathfinders charge a Knight. Do 5 Pathfinders make close combat haywire grenade attacks?
A: Only one model from the unit can attack with a grenade in the Assault phase. Per Warhammer 40,000: The Rules, ‘Only one grenade (of any type) can be thrown by a unit per phase’.

GRAVITON WEAPONS
Q: How many Hull Points does a vehicle lose when you roll 2 simultaneous sixes when using Graviton weapons?
A: It loses 3 Hull Points.

Q: How do Graviton weapons work with units with mixed armour saves?
A: Use the armour save that is in the majority within the target unit (in the case of a tie, the player whose unit is under attack can choose which is used).

Q: When rolling for the effect of Graviton or Haywire weapons, is the roll still considered an armour penetration roll?
A: No.

FLYERS
Q: If a flyer which is forced to move 18" forwards due to an Immobilised result ends its move over an enemy unit, does it ‘Crash and Burn!’?
A: No. Use the ‘Wobbly Model Syndrome’ rule.

Q: Can a Flyer make a Bombing Run on the same turn that it enters Ongoing Reserves by leaving the battlefield?
A: Yes.

Q: Does a Flyer with extra armour, when suffering an Immobilised result that is turned into a Crew Stunned result, then have that Crew Stunned result turned into Crew Shaken?
A: Yes.

Q: Flyers can fire 4 weapons at full Ballistic Skill, can they also fire any additional weapons as Snap Shots like other vehicles?
A: Yes.

Q: Can a unit that is locked in combat be chosen as the target of a Bombing Run?
A: No.

Q: Can a Flyer with the Hover (and thus Fast Skimmer) unit type be deployed on the board as a Fast Skimmer?
A: No.

Q: Can you claim to have destroyed a Flyer for a Maelstrom of War Tactical Objective (e.g. Scour the Skies) if the target was in Hover mode at the time it was destroyed?
A: Yes – the model is still a Flyer, regardless of what mode it is in.

FEEL NO PAIN
Q: How do you resolve the Helfrost rule against Feel No Pain?
A: A Feel No Pain roll can be taken as normal to avoid suffering the Wound. If this roll is failed, resolve the Helfrost rules as normal.

Q: Can Feel No Pain be taken when a rule says no saves may be taken?
A: Yes.

Q: Can a model’s Feel No Pain roll ever reach 1+, and if it can, is 1 still a fail?
A: A model’s Feel No Pain roll can never be improved beyond 2+.

Q: Do Feel No Pain saves stack? For example if a Painboy (5+) took a cybork body (6+), does it have a 4+ Feel No Pain save, or do you just use the best one?
A: Feel No Pain rolls do not stack – you just use the best one (a rule will explicitly state if it improves an existing Feel No Pain roll).

Q: Does a wound negated by Feel No Pain count as saved or unsaved for the purposes of wargear that has an effect if a unit suffers an unsaved wound?
A: It counts as saved.

Q: If a model has Eternal Warrior and Feel No Pain, can he still use his Feel No Pain roll after failing an armour/invulnerable save from an Instant Death wound?
A: No.

Q: In some cases I have had vehicle units be granted Feel No Pain. How does Feel No Pain effect vehicles?
A: Feel No Pain has no effect on vehicles.

EXPANSIONS
Q: Can I use Apocalypse Formations in non-Apocalypse games?
A: No.

ERRATA

40K RULEBOOK
Page 27 – The Psychic Phase, Witchfire
Add the following sentence after the fourth sentence of the first paragraph:
‘However, some witchfire powers do not have a weapon profile (such as the Telepathy power, Psychic Shriek); where this is the case, no To Hit roll is required – the attack hits automatically.’

Page 68 – Flying Monstrous Creatures, Deployment
Add the following sentence to the end of the paragraph:
‘If a Flying Monstrous Creature is conjured or otherwise summoned during the course of the game, as soon as it enters play, you must declare whether it is in Swooping or Gliding mode.’

DETACHMENTS AND FORMATIONS
Q: When listing Formations, sometimes it states ‘1 model’ (like 1 Tomb Spyder), while other times it lists ‘1 Unit of models’ (like 1 unit of Tomb Blades). Are these interchangeable?
A: No. The former means a single model of the type listed, while the later means a single unit of the type listed.

Q: How do special rules like Hatred affect multi-Faction armies? For example how does the Dark Angels’ Hatred (Chaos Space Marines) special rule affect Khorne Daemonkin? Does it affect all Chaos Space Marine units in the army or none at all?
A: The rules in question affect enemy units that belong to the specific named Faction. In the case of the example, it would only apply to enemy Chaos Space Marine units.

Q: If a unit consists of more than one Faction, what Faction does the unit count as when targeted by special abilities that affect one of the Factions in that unit?
A: They count as having all the Factions of the models in the unit.

Q: Can you still take Formations or models that are no longer available, like the Void Shield Generator (an out-of-production model) or the Skyhammer Annihilation Force Formation (an out-of-print Formation)?
A: Yes.

Q: In the Adeptus Mechanicus War Convocation Formation, do any fortifications benefit from the free upgrades?
A: The only fortifications that benefit from the Adeptus Mechanicus War Convocation’s rules are those taken as part of the Cult Mechanicus Battle Congregation. The Might of the Adeptus Mechanicus rule allows you free weapon and wargear options, which in most cases will not benefit fortifications – they have access to Fortification Upgrades, which are neither weapons nor wargear (this includes gun emplacements). The exceptions to this rule are weapon options on a fortification’s datasheet – for example on the Wall of Martyrs Firestorm Redoubt or Vengeance Weapon Battery. These fortifications could replace their emplaced weapons for free.

Q: If two Formations both include a model that must be your army’s Warlord, are you only able to take one of these Formations?
A: Yes.

Q: Does the Sanctuary psychic power’s 6+ invulnerable save benefit from any bonuses provided by Formations and/or Detachments (e.g. the Imperial Knights Exalted Court’s Council of Lords)?
A: No.

Q: Can I have an Unbound army comprising nothing but buildings?
A: No.

Q: Can units that are created from a Formation rule (e.g. Skyblight Swarm’s Skyswarm) Deep Strike if the original unit didn’t?
A: No.

Q: Can an Unbound army use Dedicated Transports that are from a different codex? For example, could a Space Marine Tactical Squad take an Astra Militarum Chimera as its Dedicated Transport?
A: No.

Q: Can I upgrade an HQ choice to a Unique character in a specific Formation? For example, the ‘Emperor’s Fist’ Armoured Company Formation mentions you must take a Tank Commander; can that Tank Commander be upgraded to Knight Commander Pask?
A: No.

Q: Can a Detachment include Core, Command and Auxiliary Detachment choices from other publications? For example, can a Gladius Detachment (Codex: Space Marines) include Core, Command and Auxiliary Formations from War Zone Damocles: Kauyon if the White Scars or Raven Guard are chosen for your Chapter Tactics?
A: No.

Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.

DESTROYER WEAPONS
Q: If a hit from a Destroyer weapon is downgraded to a glancing hit, does it inflict 1 or D3 Hull Points of damage?
A: 1.

Q: If a result of 2-5 on the Destroyer weapon attack table inflicts D3 wounds, do these carry over to the unit if they overkill the model?
A: No.

Q: If a model is hit by a Destroyer weapon and takes a Seriously Wounded result for, say, 3 Wounds, how many cover/invulnerable saves does it take?
A: 1. In your example, if the save roll was failed, the target model would suffer 3 Wounds.

Q: Do abilities that allow you to re-roll rolls To Wound, or re-roll armour penetration rolls, allow you to re-roll the results on the Destroyer weapon attack table?
A: No.

Q: Can you make ‘Look Out, Sir’ attempts against Destroyer weapon hits?
A: Yes.

Q: How are Destroyer weapons resolved against mixed units?
A: Use the type of target that is in the majority in the unit. If tied, the player whose unit is under attack can choose.

Q: With Destroyer weapons that use templates, how are saves meant to be taken – before or after rolling on the Destroyer weapon attack table?
A: After.

CHARACTERS
Q: Can you attempt ‘Look Out, Sir’ for Wounds allocated outside of the Shooting and Assault phases?
A: Yes.

Q: The ‘Look Out, Sir’ rule states that Wounds must be allocated to the closest model in the unit to the character. What if you have multiple models that are equidistant? Do you have to allocate all ‘Look Out, Sir’ hits to a particular model until it is removed, or can you shift the Wounds to other equidistant models (assuming, of course, that they have multiple Wounds)?
A: You must apply all Wounds to the same model until it is removed.

BLAST MARKERS & TEMPLATES
Q: Do blast weapons, regardless of size or type, now hit all models at all height levels under the template? And if so, is intervening terrain (such as bridges or floors) ignored when determining how many hits are caused?
A: A blast marker or template affects all models underneath it, including those on different levels of a piece of scenery. (Designer’s Note: Earlier versions of this rule restricted the effect of blast markers and templates to models on ‘a single level’ of scenery. This created problems with scenery that didn’t have strictly definable ‘levels’ and we decided on this change for simplicity. In addition, we feel the rules now better reflect the explosions being three-dimensional (i.e. spherical and not circular) as well as better representing the deadliness of weapons such a flamers when used in confined spaces.)

Q: In the case of a template weapon that fires two or more times (such as the Blood Angels’ frag cannon), do they still only inflict D3 hits when firing Overwatch, or D3 hits per number of shots in the weapon profile?
A: D3 hits per number of shots in the weapon’s profile.

Q: Does the Preferred Enemy special rule allow you to re-roll Gets Hot rolls of 1 for blast weapons (e.g. a plasma cannon)?
A: No.

Q: Does a template weapon aimed at a unit at ground level but also touching a Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature hit it? Does a blast marker that drifts onto a Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature hit it?
A: No, in both cases. Template and Blast weapons and other attacks that don’t roll To Hit cannot hit Flying Monstrous Creatures that are Swooping.

Q: Does the ability to re-roll 1s allow you to re-roll scatter dice?
A: No.

Q: Can you use a flamer/template weapon in Overwatch after Jinking?
A: No.

Q: Does the Multiple Barrage rule apply only to multiple weapons with the same name and Barrage rule (i.e. 3 Mortars)?
A: Yes.

Q: Twin-linked multiple barrage units. Can the drift for every shot after the first (the shots that use the drift dice but not the 2D6) be re-rolled?
A: Yes.

Q: If a unit has multiple template weapons with different names (e.g. a flamer and a heavy flamer), are To Hit rolls made, To Wound rolls made, and Wounds allocated for each named weapon before moving on to the next named weapon?
A: Yes.

Q: Regarding Barrage weapons and vehicles – how do you determine which side is hit?
A: Assume the shot is coming from the centre of the blast marker and hits the nearest side.

Q: Are alien and daemonic flame weapons like Ork burnas, Flames of Tzeentch, Baleful Torrent, etc., treated as flamer weapons for rules that interact with them?
A: Only if the entry in their codex specifically notes it is a flamer weapon as described in Warhammer 40,000: The Rules.

ASSAULT PHASE
Q: Can you charge an enemy unit if friendly models from other units make it impossible for the chargers to get into base contact with the enemy?
A: No.


Q: What constitutes an attacker and target in regard to the To Hit chart?
A: The model you are making the To Hit roll for is the attacker.

Q: If you make a Disordered Charge against a vehicle and a non-vehicle unit, which close combat rules count for things like Sweeping Advances, Pile-ins or Consolidation moves?
A: Those that apply to the primary target of the charge.

Q: If a unit becomes disengaged in the Shooting phase (e.g. from a Flyer crashing and killing the enemy it was locked in combat with, or a blast weapon scattering onto and killing the enemy), is it able to assault in the following Assault phase?
A: Yes.

Q: If a unit is locked in combat, and is completely destroyed by a scattering blast template, does the unit left standing from that combat get a Consolidate move?
A: No.

Q: If a unit ‘must declare a charge against unit if <insert prerequisite>’, is the rule ignored if they are unable to declare the charge (entered from Reserves, Infiltrated, no line of sight to the target, etc.)?
A: Yes.

Q: An enemy unit is engaged in combat with one of your units. You want to charge an enemy unit with another of your units, but they’re behind the one already locked in combat. Do they have to move around in order to get into base contact?
A: Yes.

Q: Can a single model make a disordered charge against two or more enemy units?
A: Yes.

Q: How do you allocate wounds in close combat, where it can be difficult to tell which model is closest? Is it possible to specifically allocate wounds to an enemy character not in a challenge, and would they get ‘Look Out, Sir’ tests?
A: You must determine which models are the closest before allocating wounds – if it is impossible to tell, they are considered equally close, and the player controlling the models being attacked decides. This means that only the player controlling a character could choose to allocate wounds to them. If they did so, the ‘Look Out, Sir’ rules would apply.

Q: One of your units is about to charge. As per the rules, you would measure the distance of the closest models in both squads, say 7", and there is nothing in the way of moving the first model into base contact, but a different model must move through a forest. Do you need to roll a 9, or is it still a 7?
A: You must subtract 2 from the charge roll if any models in the unit have to move through difficult terrain.

ARTILLERY
Q: When firing at artillery units, does the gun’s Toughness value apply for the purposes of resolving Instant Death against any Independent Characters that have joined the unit?
A: No, Instant Death is worked out each time a Wound is allocated to an individual model.

Q: Regarding batteries and out-of-range weapons – if 2 out of 3 weapons from an artillery battery are in range and the 3rd is out of range, do you just allocate 2 blast templates (the 3rd being unable to shoot)?
A: Yes.

ARMY LISTS
Q: How many Relics/Artefacts can a single model be equipped with?
A: A model can only be given a single Relic/Artefact of any kind unless specifically noted otherwise.

FAQ hosted here for work blocked:
I'd post them in a spoiler, but it's 41 images.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-27952-51317_Faq.html

 Gamgee wrote:
Is there any codex specific stuff in the first draft yet? I want to know about the Tau and their Huntre Cadre formation if they share abilities to everyone shooting at a single target.

They said codex specific is next. I think it will be. I think most tournament FAQs ruled against it based more on it's strength than it's wording.

You can't kill units by tank shock apparently?

Oooo

Q: A ruin (e.g. a Shrine of the Aquila) is treated as difficult terrain, but does this mean that models can move through the walls?
A: No.

Ouch

Q: Can Stomp attacks affect units which are not locked in combat with the Stomping model?
A: Yes.

An oldy

Q: When a model has Furious Charge as well as a power fist, does the 2x Strength modification happen before the +1 Strength modification?
A: Yes.

At last

Q: How does a Gargantuan Creature move through difficult terrain? A previous official FAQ clarified that a Super-heavy Walker rolls 2D6 and doubles the highest result, but said nothing about Gargantuan Creatures.
A: Roll 3D6 (due to the Move Through Cover special rule) and double the highest result

Q: Can Gargantuan Creatures shoot all of their weapons at different targets, or can they only shoot two different weapons at two different targets?
A: They can shoot all of their weapons, at different targets if desired.

This is a great step forward for GW.

Some of these questions hurt my head... people were seriously confused about whether a pistol/CCW gives you 1 vs. 2 extra attacks?

Q: Which has precedence between a Lance weapon and quantum shielding? Both rules modify what Armour ‘counts as’.
A: The effects cancel out and the normal Armour Values are used.

The what now? So a Lance lowers Necron armour to 11?

Warhammer 40,000 on Facebook wrote:Q: Can an Independent Character Monstrous Creature join another Independent Character to form a unit?

A: Yes.ficient.

I think this one is my favorite.

Looking good so far. IN case you can't link above or find their FB page https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1610528622601104&id=1575682476085719

Yay!

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Q: Which has precedence between a Lance weapon and quantum shielding? Both rules modify what Armour ‘counts as’.
A: The effects cancel out and the normal Armour Values are used.

The what now? So a Lance lowers Necron armour to 11?

Seems like it? Be sure to comment so they will clarify further in the final version.

https://www.facebook.com/1575682476085719/photos/pcb.1610528622601104/1610526669267966/?type=3&theater

That's interesting for the Big Mek.

Also auras that aren't psychic powers don't extend from the Hull of Vehicles. Culexus Assassin + Vendetta cheesing is dead.

Another yay!



This means my Knights can once more charge into squads of Fire Warriors without having to worry about being nuked by the little witches!

Oof, that's an interesting ruling for the interaction between lances and quantum. Was not expecting that.

Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.

No more Drop pod fun then???

Q: Since a player automatically loses at the end of any game turn in which he has no models on the table, does a player taking a Detachment that requires him to start all his models in Reserve (such as the Ravenwing Strike Force with Flyers) automatically lose every game he plays?
A: A player who takes an army that consists entirely of units and/or Detachments which must be set up in Reserve, with no special rule that allows them to arrive in the first game turn, will automatically lose the game. We do not recommend choosing an army like this!

Love it.

 Ratius wrote:

Q: Since a player automatically loses at the end of any game turn in which he has no models on the table, does a player taking a Detachment that requires him to start all his models in Reserve (such as the Ravenwing Strike Force with Flyers) automatically lose every game he plays?
A: A player who takes an army that consists entirely of units and/or Detachments which must be set up in Reserve, with no special rule that allows them to arrive in the first game turn, will automatically lose the game. We do not recommend choosing an army like this!

Love it.

We do not recommend using Deathwing! Seriously, don't do it!

Oh big one that a lot of people in YMDC argued about, preferred enemy no longer allows you to reroll 1's for get's hot for blast template weapons. Nor does re-rolling 1's to hit allow you re-roll scatter dice.

 TedNugent wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/1575682476085719/photos/pcb.1610528622601104/1610526669267966/?type=3&theater

That's interesting for the Big Mek.

Isn't this just how most people already played it?

 Mr Morden wrote:
Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.

No more Drop pod fun then???

That's HUGE

 BrookM wrote:
Another yay!



This means my Knights can once more charge into squads of Fire Warriors without having to worry about being nuked by the little witches!

Actually, that's huge for regular walkers. You would no longer have to worry about getting blowed up by Krak grenades from regular Tacticool dudes.

Q: What are the official rules regarding specific base sizes for specific models (if any)?
A: The rules assume that models are mounted on the base they are supplied with, but it’s entirely fine to mount them on whichever base you think is appropriate.

Hooray for my old 2nd ed Nids!

And MCs can charge multiple units. New one on me but very welcome.

The image for the IC FAQs is very different from the text. Like, 180 different.

Edit: Ah, the image has the right questions but has the answers from the Missions page.

skarsol wrote:
The image for the IC FAQs is very different from the text. Like, 180 different.

Apparently its from the missions page - people have posted on the relevant page to alert them

Well they answered psychic shriek being a to hit roll or not, well done GW.

surprise to me was QS and Lance rules canceling each other and using the base AV without QS. Lance buff right there.

They also clarified the axe of khorne that causes you to strike last and harlequins kiss working when not using them.

The gets hot roll is not a to hit roll..

Units in transports are only affected by things in range if the thing affecting them specifies it does so- this is pretty huge.

Clarified units entering play from DS transport are also entering play by deep strike.

VSG- all models in unit must be within range to benefit. -huge.

VSG- models do not benefit from cover saves before shield is stripped- huge.

Tank shock- not intended as a way to remove enemy models. clarified.

Jinking+ stealth and shrouded- not clarified. They do say jinking and in cover are different saves. somewhat intendeing in the same section that stealth and shrouded affect cover saves from cover, not jink but do not say such.

Psykers cannot try to manifest more powers than their ML in a turn- clarification- this is a pretty big deal

Psykers use the combined ML of the psykers in the unit for determing WC generated.

Veil of darkness ruling- is strange. If you go into ongoing reserves from VoD(which also means gate) and do not have the deep strike rule, you may not come back in by deep strike.

Overwatch- if you get extra shots in the normal shooting phase, you get extra shots in the overwatch phase- clarification

Novas- each unit hit suffers the hits, ie cleansing flame causes 2d6 hits to each unit affected, and roll separately for each unit.

GMC- can fire all weapons, at different targets if desired. As per SHV they have to call out what is firing before resolving.

GMC- can still stomp if all enemies dead at I1 step.

GMC- do not get hit by blasts, but can be targetted by skyfire blasts/templates(I assume they get hit by them too if they can be targetted but not specifically stated)

FMC- get DS special rule

Pivoting of anything to gain movement is illegal

Infiltrate- you are allowed to not use it and deploy normally, this affects some ICs with Infiltrate.

Rules for detachments/formations only apply to those detachments/formations- Specifically calls out that an IC attached to NSF cannot benefit from first turn deep strike. Huge.

Do rules applying to an unit, such as dunestrider, or skyhammer anhillation force rules apply to attached ICs? answer is no. This is huge.

Graviton- Uses majority armor save when firing at mixed units.

Flyers cannot bomb and go into reserves on the same turn.

Flyers can fire 4 weapons at full BS and others as snapshots- nice.

Units containing multiple psykers cannot attempt to cast the same power more than once. Big deal.

If something states 1 model for a detachment it means 1, uses tomb spyders for necron canoptek spyder formation

Relics/artifacts- models may only be given 1 unless noted otherwise.







Overall this is a well done FAQ that answers many questions the community has had for a while and thought would go unanswered.

Well done GW, Well done.

41 pages of FAQs and everyone is celebrating?

No, just enjoying some well needed rules clarifications. Get on the train with us.

Q: A ruin (e.g. a Shrine of the Aquila) is treated as difficult terrain, but does this mean that models can move through the walls?
A: No.


No more moving through walls now eh?

People that came from Deep Strike Transports are considered coming from Deep Strike themselves. This one will already reduce a lot of YMDC threats.

Graviton (collapses on a 6), Melta, Haywire and Gauss now properly work against Void Shields

Tank Shock doesn't outright kill anchored Stormsurges (they're moved until they remain at least 1" from the tank shocking vehicle). Also, it's very dangerous to tank shock/ram from reserves (if your vehicle doesn't entirely remain in the battlefield, it's destroyed!)

Gun Emplacements can be controlled by both sides, if they have models touching it

Mr Morden wrote:Only one grenade per unit can be used in assaults

A single model can only ever have one Relic unless noted otherwise! Big change for Marines - same old same old for others........... :(

Oh derp, we always played the grenade thing wrong - we allowed each model with it to attack once! This severly improves vehicle survivability in melee in our games, lol

Good thing Tau Commanders can have as many relics as possible ^^

I am a bit miffed by super-heavy transports taking a bit of a kick in the knackers when moving more than 6" with regards to their passengers shooting.

blaktoof wrote:

Rules for detachments/formations only apply to those detachments/formations- Specifically calls out that an IC attached to NSF cannot benefit from first turn deep strike. Huge.

Do rules applying to an unit, such as dunestrider, or skyhammer anhillation force rules apply to attached ICs? answer is no. This is huge.

You have that entirely backwards, they said they DO benefit the attached IC.

Edit: My mistake, the text is different from the photo. You're absolutely right.

Well, I'll be a runty squig. They actually made a FAQ.

Some highlights I saw:

Witchfire powers without a profile do not roll to hit (psychic shriek)

D thirsters, for example, are always slowed by their weapon.

Reroll to hits (PE, ammo runts, etc) do not let you reroll gets hot! blast weapons.

No consolidate from a close combat in which you destroyed a walker? That's an odd one to me.

No AOE rule effects from embarked units.

Garg & FMCs must be 25% obscured to gain cover saves. MCs still treated like infantry.

Tank shock can never be used to destroy models.

SHVs do snap fire after ramming? They actually answered my specific example of a baneblade ramming a warbuggy, and it has to snap fire afterwards.

All SHV/Garg firing weapons must be declared initially, not resolved sequentially.

No firing arc limitation in SHWs, from what I saw.

Maledictions/blessings do not stack. No doubling down on cursed earth / enfeeble, for example.

No overwatch if falling back. That's new to me.

Garg creatures fire all weapons, aren't limited to two.

Skyfire blasts/templates can hit flyers!

Single models can multi charge.

FMCs can deep strike.

Jinking transports cause occupants to snap fire.

A unit's special rules (e.g. skyhammer) confers to attached to ICs.

Conjured FMCs declare whether in swooping/gliding mode when summoned.

Downgrading a D shot to a glance (serpent shield/ramshackle) results in one glancing hit of damage.

Blasts/flamers do indeed hit all levels.

Choosing between swooping and gliding for summoned fmc just made the blood tithe that bit better for my kdk!

 crazyK wrote:
Q: A ruin (e.g. a Shrine of the Aquila) is treated as difficult terrain, but does this mean that models can move through the walls?
A: No.


No more moving through walls now eh?

Honestly, it's always struck me as rather surprising people played like this... it's a wall. Common sense suggests you cannot walk through them, on account of them being all solid and that...

That grenade ruling is a bit of a kick for most flavours of Space Marines and oddly it's not something I've ever seen debated. I don't have a rulebook handy, but is this clearing up vague wording, or is it a complete change of the rule?

Tons of nice clarifications and a couple of outright rules changes. Hopefully they'll issue corresponding Erratas to make the rules unambiguous in the first place.

 Kriswall wrote:
Tons of nice clarifications and a couple of outright rules changes. Hopefully they'll issue corresponding Erratas to make the rules unambiguous in the first place.

There is a page of actual errata at the end.

 Ratius wrote:

Q: Since a player automatically loses at the end of any game turn in which he has no models on the table, does a player taking a Detachment that requires him to start all his models in Reserve (such as the Ravenwing Strike Force with Flyers) automatically lose every game he plays?
A: A player who takes an army that consists entirely of units and/or Detachments which must be set up in Reserve, with no special rule that allows them to arrive in the first game turn, will automatically lose the game. We do not recommend choosing an army like this!

Love it.

Double love! That's good stuff right there.

 the_Armyman wrote:
41 pages of FAQs and everyone is celebrating?

Yes, we get that the old command were a bunch of turds, but please embrace the change and be better for it!

 Mymearan wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.

No more Drop pod fun then???

That's HUGE

Ah SH....

I'm glad they beat the "pivot for more inches" thing to death.

 Paradigm wrote:

 crazyK wrote:
Q: A ruin (e.g. a Shrine of the Aquila) is treated as difficult terrain, but does this mean that models can move through the walls?
A: No.


No more moving through walls now eh?

Honestly, it's always struck me as rather surprising people played like this... it's a wall. Common sense suggests you cannot walk through them, on account of them being all solid and that...

That grenade ruling is a bit of a kick for most flavours of Space Marines and oddly it's not something I've ever seen debated. I don't have a rulebook handy, but is this clearing up vague wording, or is it a complete change of the rule?

From the BRB: Only one grenade (of any type) can be thrown by a unit per phase.

skarsol wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:

 crazyK wrote:
Q: A ruin (e.g. a Shrine of the Aquila) is treated as difficult terrain, but does this mean that models can move through the walls?
A: No.


No more moving through walls now eh?

Honestly, it's always struck me as rather surprising people played like this... it's a wall. Common sense suggests you cannot walk through them, on account of them being all solid and that...

That grenade ruling is a bit of a kick for most flavours of Space Marines and oddly it's not something I've ever seen debated. I don't have a rulebook handy, but is this clearing up vague wording, or is it a complete change of the rule?

From the BRB: Only one grenade (of any type) can be thrown by a unit per phase.

Ah, I knew that was the case for shooting, though I thought I remembered it being 1 grenade per model in CC... maybe that changed with 7th, I still haven't bought that yet!

Throne! Lots and lots of questions answered. Well done, GW!

 Grimskul wrote:
Oh big one that a lot of people in YMDC argued about, preferred enemy no longer allows you to reroll 1's for get's hot for blast template weapons. Nor does re-rolling 1's to hit allow you re-roll scatter dice.

Well, just going to throw my Executioners in the trash now. Not like Guard had much going for them, but I loved my Plasma beasts... Thanks, GW.

And they said no special character upgrades in Formations, robbing me of Pask in my Steel Host. SIGH.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:
Oh big one that a lot of people in YMDC argued about, preferred enemy no longer allows you to reroll 1's for get's hot for blast template weapons. Nor does re-rolling 1's to hit allow you re-roll scatter dice.

Well, just going to throw my Executioners in the trash now. Not like Guard had much going for them, but I loved my Plasma beasts... Thanks, GW.

And they said no special character upgrades in Formations, robbing me of Pask in my Steel Host. SIGH.

Get on the forum and actually ask the question. Maybe you haven't lost anything... It's not like we haven't seen people playing actual rules wrong to begin with.

 Paradigm wrote:

Ah, I knew that was the case for shooting, though I thought I remembered it being 1 grenade per model in CC... maybe that changed with 7th, I still haven't bought that yet!

People likely read "A model can use such a grenade as a Melee weapon, but can only ever make one attack, regardless of the number of Attacks on its profile or any bonuses." and extrapolate that to "each model".

 Paradigm wrote:
That grenade ruling is a bit of a kick for most flavours of Space Marines and oddly it's not something I've ever seen debated. I don't have a rulebook handy, but is this clearing up vague wording, or is it a complete change of the rule?

I just checked my rulebook and it is worded like that (page 180, top left). So this is very much something quite a lot of people have read over.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:
Oh big one that a lot of people in YMDC argued about, preferred enemy no longer allows you to reroll 1's for get's hot for blast template weapons. Nor does re-rolling 1's to hit allow you re-roll scatter dice.

Well, just going to throw my Executioners in the trash now. Not like Guard had much going for them, but I loved my Plasma beasts... Thanks, GW.

And they said no special character upgrades in Formations, robbing me of Pask in my Steel Host. SIGH.

Get on the forum and actually ask the question. Maybe you haven't lost anything... It's not like we haven't seen people playing actual rules wrong to begin with.

I am going off the GW answers in the posted FAQS. So yea...

skarsol wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:

Ah, I knew that was the case for shooting, though I thought I remembered it being 1 grenade per model in CC... maybe that changed with 7th, I still haven't bought that yet!

People likely read "A model can use such a grenade as a Melee weapon, but can only ever make one attack, regardless of the number of Attacks on its profile or any bonuses." and extrapolate that to "each model".

Yep - I think pretty much everyone did that

What the bet this thread quickly become the hottest thread on the forum ...........FAQs - just wow!

Feels like Rountree is in service to Tzeentch... all this change lol

 Mymearan wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.

No more Drop pod fun then???

That's HUGE

This made my War Convo really sad

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.

No more Drop pod fun then???

That's HUGE

This made my War Convo really sad

Yup & mine. Well, at least my 3 drop pods. Good job I Gotta bunker !

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.

No more Drop pod fun then???

That's HUGE

This made my War Convo really sad

This made everyone sad. Sharing transports was VERY common.

 Kap'n Krump wrote:
Well, I'll be a runty squig. They actually made a FAQ.


A unit's special rules (e.g. skyhammer) confers to attached to ICs.

Q: If I’m using a special Detachment, such as the Nemesis Strike Force Detachment, and add Independent Characters from Battle Brother Factions (e.g. the Librarius Conclave), can they all still benefit from the first turn deployment and come in together?
A: No, the rules for Detachments and Formations only apply to models/units that are part of the Detachment or Formation.

Q: Do rules applying to ‘the unit’, such as those from Formation command benefits (e.g. the Skyhammer Annihilation Force), or unit-wide special rules such as Dunestrider from Codex: Skitarii apply to any attached Independent Characters?
A: No.

You might have misread that one there.

blaktoof wrote:


You might have misread that one there.

The image has different (wrong) answers. Thus the confusion.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Uriels_Flame wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:
Oh big one that a lot of people in YMDC argued about, preferred enemy no longer allows you to reroll 1's for get's hot for blast template weapons. Nor does re-rolling 1's to hit allow you re-roll scatter dice.

Well, just going to throw my Executioners in the trash now. Not like Guard had much going for them, but I loved my Plasma beasts... Thanks, GW.

And they said no special character upgrades in Formations, robbing me of Pask in my Steel Host. SIGH.

Get on the forum and actually ask the question. Maybe you haven't lost anything... It's not like we haven't seen people playing actual rules wrong to begin with.

I am going off the GW answers in the posted FAQS. So yea...

Well, on the bright side, units with mixed factions do count as all the factions officially now, and that is a nice buff for the guard.

Don't like your crappy lascannon teams? field imperial fist devastators or super-grav servitors! Give them ignores cover with an attached guard IC!

It's not in place yet folks. That's why it's called a 1st draft. If you want to call them out on something, ASK(or if you don't have FB,get one of your buddies to ask)

blaktoof wrote:

 Kap'n Krump wrote:
Well, I'll be a runty squig. They actually made a FAQ.


A unit's special rules (e.g. skyhammer) confers to attached to ICs.

Q: If I’m using a special Detachment, such as the Nemesis Strike Force Detachment, and add Independent Characters from Battle Brother Factions (e.g. the Librarius Conclave), can they all still benefit from the first turn deployment and come in together?
A: No, the rules for Detachments and Formations only apply to models/units that are part of the Detachment or Formation.

Q: Do rules applying to ‘the unit’, such as those from Formation command benefits (e.g. the Skyhammer Annihilation Force), or unit-wide special rules such as Dunestrider from Codex: Skitarii apply to any attached Independent Characters?
A: No.

You might have misread that one there.

Independent character page, 3rd entry from the top, says yes, you can, and specifically references skyhammer. Though it is a draft, and I did see some typos, maybe some stuff is contradictory.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
It's not in place yet folks. That's why it's called a 1st draft. If you want to call them out on something, ASK(or if you don't have FB,get one of your buddies to ask)

It's a first draft for clarity, not a first draft for the actual ruling. They want to know "do you understand what we have written" not "do you think we got this right".


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 Kap'n Krump wrote:

Independent character page, 3rd entry from the top, says yes, you can, and specifically references skyhammer. Though it is a draft, and I did see some typos, maybe some stuff is contradictory.

They've stated the image is wrong. Read the text caption.

So can you cast the same power multiple times from one unit with multiple IC or not? There seem to be two separate rulings...one under "Psychic Phase" and one under "Independent Characters"

Perhaps I am reading something wrong....

 997Turbo wrote:
So can you cast the same power multiple times from one unit with multiple IC or not? There seem to be two separate rulings...one under "Psychic Phase" and one under "Independent Characters"

Perhaps I am reading something wrong....

The IC page image is wrong. *echo* *echo*

 pretre wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.

No more Drop pod fun then???

That's HUGE

This made my War Convo really sad

This made everyone sad. Sharing transports was VERY common.

Not only that but every vehicle formation like the land raider formation or blitz brigade formation can't have passengers inside on turn 1 because same faction detachments are battle brothers with each other. I hope I'm wrong on this because if not GW made a horrible rules decision.

Can't but raise my hat to GW. They have truly looked at the feedback and worked to resolve it.

Now I'm just waiting for the updated rulebook.

Times are a changing. GW is back. For the Wolftime.

 Kap'n Krump wrote:

blaktoof wrote:

 Kap'n Krump wrote:
Well, I'll be a runty squig. They actually made a FAQ.


A unit's special rules (e.g. skyhammer) confers to attached to ICs.

Q: If I’m using a special Detachment, such as the Nemesis Strike Force Detachment, and add Independent Characters from Battle Brother Factions (e.g. the Librarius Conclave), can they all still benefit from the first turn deployment and come in together?
A: No, the rules for Detachments and Formations only apply to models/units that are part of the Detachment or Formation.

Q: Do rules applying to ‘the unit’, such as those from Formation command benefits (e.g. the Skyhammer Annihilation Force), or unit-wide special rules such as Dunestrider from Codex: Skitarii apply to any attached Independent Characters?
A: No.

You might have misread that one there.

Independent character page, 3rd entry from the top, says yes, you can, and specifically references skyhammer. Though it is a draft, and I did see some typos, maybe some stuff is contradictory.

Your right, my apologies.
under their comments edit is this:

The last couple of questions on the image here are a glitch. Unfortunately, Facebook won't let us update it, so please go off this text, rather than the image:

Which makes it confusing, but the text is right and image is wrong

Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.

 Desubot wrote:
Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.

AKA, drop pod sales have finally bottomed out

Only reason I'm not happy about the D-thirsted ruling is because the D-thirsted suffers from it, and Imperial Knights don't. If they solidified one way or the other, I'd be perfectly content. Glad to see my Blade of Blood/Axe of Khorne combo daemons are awesome though!!

The amount of questions that are very clearly explained in the rulebook is kind of sad.

 Vankraken wrote:


Not only that but every vehicle formation like the land raider formation or blitz brigade formation can't have passengers inside on turn 1 because same faction detachments are battle brothers with each other. I hope I'm wrong on this because if not GW made a horrible rules decision.

You're confused. Same faction detachments aren't battle brothers, they're the same faction.

 cosmicsoybean wrote:
The amount of questions that are very clearly explained in the rulebook is kind of sad.

You must be new here...

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:


Not only that but every vehicle formation like the land raider formation or blitz brigade formation can't have passengers inside on turn 1 because same faction detachments are battle brothers with each other. I hope I'm wrong on this because if not GW made a horrible rules decision.

You're confused. Same faction detachments aren't battle brothers, they're the same faction.

The Allies chart (pg 126, main rulebook) disagrees with you.

Sucks big time about multiple IC Psykers/Brotherhood of Psyker units still only being allowed to attempt the same Witchfire power once per phase...

So Tzeentch Daemons (especially Pinkies led by Tzheralds) are still ridiculously nerfed for no god damned reason.

Wonder what the codexes(?) will look like.

 cosmicsoybean wrote:
The amount of questions that are very clearly explained in the rulebook is kind of sad.

True, but it can't hurt to be doubly clear. Not everyone interprets things the same way you would.

 VeteranNoob wrote:
Wonder what the codexes(?) will look like.

Codex Chaos Space Marines: just stop playing guys, we're sorry, but you suck too much at this point to be fixed!

 VeteranNoob wrote:
Wonder what the codexes(?) will look like.

I'm hoping Dark Eldar will see some buffs. Was very disappointed at the tiny amount of wargear options available for the Archon.

My group has been playing the grenade rules wrong this whole time then- this is great news for me because it increases the survivability of MC's and walkers by quite a bit.

Like, an armored sentinel goes from getting destroyed by a 10-man marine squad in two turns to tarpitting them for the entire game, statistically.

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:


Not only that but every vehicle formation like the land raider formation or blitz brigade formation can't have passengers inside on turn 1 because same faction detachments are battle brothers with each other. I hope I'm wrong on this because if not GW made a horrible rules decision.

You're confused. Same faction detachments aren't battle brothers, they're the same faction.

The Allies chart (pg 126, main rulebook) disagrees with you.

I'm looking for it, but I don't see it. It only see:

Allies wrote:
You can include models from any number of different Factions in the same army if you wish. Irrespective of the method you use to choose your army, this section tells you how models from different Factions fight alongside each other.

Levels of Alliance wrote:
To represent this, we have several categories of alliance, each of which imposes certain effects on the game. The Allies Matrix below shows the levels of alliance between units that have different Factions in the same army.

The allies rules seem, based on what I quoted, to only refer to how different Factions interact, not multiple detachments of the same Faction.

Q: I have a question regarding unit special rules that affect all or some units within a certain range of a model or unit. How do these interact with units inside Transports, and what happens if the unit with the rule is inside a Transport?
A: When a unit embarks on a vehicle it is taken off the battlefield and does not interact with anything on the battlefield. However, certain rules may create exceptions to this rule, with the most obvious examples being Fire Points and psychic powers and Transports. If a unit’s rules are meant to apply even when embarked on a Transport, they will specify this.

So... if a unit is inside of a transport, and it doesn't interact with anything on the battlefield, does that mean that units inside of transports can't control objectives? Particularly in regards to obj sec units inside non-obj sec transports? This question has come up several times in YMDC, and has been pretty much been beaten into the ground. Yes, I realize the question above isn't talking about objectives, but the answer is very general and could be interpreted in different ways.

I feel like a guardsman, who, after a long siege of Tyranids can finally at least see the last wave of bugs.

Hallelujah! 40k might just turn into a clean game after all.

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:


Not only that but every vehicle formation like the land raider formation or blitz brigade formation can't have passengers inside on turn 1 because same faction detachments are battle brothers with each other. I hope I'm wrong on this because if not GW made a horrible rules decision.

You're confused. Same faction detachments aren't battle brothers, they're the same faction.

The Allies chart (pg 126, main rulebook) disagrees with you.

I'm looking for it, but I don't see it.

Seriously? Look at the Allies chart and cross reference the same faction with the same faction. What symbol do you see and what does it mean?

 pretre wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.

No more Drop pod fun then???

That's HUGE

This made my War Convo really sad

This made everyone sad. Sharing transports was VERY common.

Doesn't make me sad.

From a purely narrative aspect, the Drop Pods were always supposed to be a Space Marine thing. it's like boarding torpedoes. A method of troop insertion so violent and so insane you'd have to be crazy (and biologically engineered) to do it.

Having other factions suddenly hijacking Space Marine drop pods was silly.

Feel bad for the people who bought the models they can't use, but they were always breaking the game immersion by exploiting a rule oversight. That said, maybe there will be some cheap drop pods on Ebay soon. Always an upside to everything.

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:


Not only that but every vehicle formation like the land raider formation or blitz brigade formation can't have passengers inside on turn 1 because same faction detachments are battle brothers with each other. I hope I'm wrong on this because if not GW made a horrible rules decision.

You're confused. Same faction detachments aren't battle brothers, they're the same faction.

The Allies chart (pg 126, main rulebook) disagrees with you.

I'm looking for it, but I don't see it.

Seriously? Look at the Allies chart and cross reference the same faction with the same faction. What symbol do you see and what does it mean?

It means nothing (except in the case of Forces of the Imperium where the symbol is shorthand for several different factions) because it only tells you how different Factions interact, as the preceding paragraphs state.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Doesn't make me sad.

From a purely narrative aspect, the Drop Pods were always supposed to be a Space Marine thing. it's like boarding torpedoes. A method of troop insertion so violent and so insane you'd have to be crazy (and biologically engineered) to do it.

Having other factions suddenly hijacking Space Marine drop pods was silly.

Feel bad for the people who bought the models they can't use, but they were always breaking the game immersion by exploiting a rule oversight. That said, maybe there will be some cheap drop pods on Ebay soon. Always an upside to everything.

Except there were rules for it in previous editions. Sisters used to have drop pods and I'm sure there are other examples.

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:


Not only that but every vehicle formation like the land raider formation or blitz brigade formation can't have passengers inside on turn 1 because same faction detachments are battle brothers with each other. I hope I'm wrong on this because if not GW made a horrible rules decision.

You're confused. Same faction detachments aren't battle brothers, they're the same faction.

The Allies chart (pg 126, main rulebook) disagrees with you.

I'm looking for it, but I don't see it.

Seriously? Look at the Allies chart and cross reference the same faction with the same faction. What symbol do you see and what does it mean?

But same-faction detachments aren't allies to begin with. You're over-reading the intent of the chart. The allies chart works like that for the instances where the same book can have multiple factions in it (Space Marines, Eldar, Tau, etc) through their supplements or Successor rules.

Well thats my dark eldar screwed. Av10 open topped wasnt enough now i cant even shoot straight. Otherwise not a bad collection.

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:


Not only that but every vehicle formation like the land raider formation or blitz brigade formation can't have passengers inside on turn 1 because same faction detachments are battle brothers with each other. I hope I'm wrong on this because if not GW made a horrible rules decision.

You're confused. Same faction detachments aren't battle brothers, they're the same faction.

The Allies chart (pg 126, main rulebook) disagrees with you.

I'm looking for it, but I don't see it.

Seriously? Look at the Allies chart and cross reference the same faction with the same faction. What symbol do you see and what does it mean?

It means nothing (except in the case of Forces of the Imperium where the symbol is shorthand for several different factions) because it only tells you how different Factions interact, as the preceding paragraphs state.

So you just hand-wave away something that proves you're wrong. Yeah, I think we're done here.

 Cleatus wrote:

Q: I have a question regarding unit special rules that affect all or some units within a certain range of a model or unit. How do these interact with units inside Transports, and what happens if the unit with the rule is inside a Transport?
A: When a unit embarks on a vehicle it is taken off the battlefield and does not interact with anything on the battlefield. However, certain rules may create exceptions to this rule, with the most obvious examples being Fire Points and psychic powers and Transports. If a unit’s rules are meant to apply even when embarked on a Transport, they will specify this.

So... if a unit is inside of a transport, and it doesn't interact with anything on the battlefield, does that mean that units inside of transports can't control objectives? Particularly in regards to obj sec units inside non-obj sec transports? This question has come up several times in YMDC, and has been pretty much been beaten into the ground. Yes, I realize the question above isn't talking about objectives, but the answer is very general and could be interpreted in different ways.

Go to the facebook page and ask them (on the relivent image).

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:


Not only that but every vehicle formation like the land raider formation or blitz brigade formation can't have passengers inside on turn 1 because same faction detachments are battle brothers with each other. I hope I'm wrong on this because if not GW made a horrible rules decision.

You're confused. Same faction detachments aren't battle brothers, they're the same faction.

The Allies chart (pg 126, main rulebook) disagrees with you.

I'm looking for it, but I don't see it.

Seriously? Look at the Allies chart and cross reference the same faction with the same faction. What symbol do you see and what does it mean?

It means nothing (except in the case of Forces of the Imperium where the symbol is shorthand for several different factions) because it only tells you how different Factions interact, as the preceding paragraphs state.

So you just hand-wave away something that proves you're wrong. Yeah, I think we're done here.

I quoted from the rules that said it only applies to how different Factions in the army work. I'm not handwaving, I literally quoted two paragraphs from the book.

I'm very happy with the majority of these changes. It seems repeatedly across the FAQ, they sided with the ruling that reduced the power-level of rules combinations (e.g., no formation benefits for IC's), went with the more restrictive ruling (e.g., can only cast number of powers equal to mastery level), or added additional penalties to exisiting abilities (e.g., jinking forces passengers to snap shot). I think this is good for the health of the game, where the ridiculous combinatorics of their release schedule has forced the power creep to insane levels.

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

Pythius Primus wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:


Not only that but every vehicle formation like the land raider formation or blitz brigade formation can't have passengers inside on turn 1 because same faction detachments are battle brothers with each other. I hope I'm wrong on this because if not GW made a horrible rules decision.

You're confused. Same faction detachments aren't battle brothers, they're the same faction.

The Allies chart (pg 126, main rulebook) disagrees with you.

I'm looking for it, but I don't see it.

Seriously? Look at the Allies chart and cross reference the same faction with the same faction. What symbol do you see and what does it mean?

It means nothing (except in the case of Forces of the Imperium where the symbol is shorthand for several different factions) because it only tells you how different Factions interact, as the preceding paragraphs state.

So you just hand-wave away something that proves you're wrong. Yeah, I think we're done here.

I quoted from the rules that said it only applies to how different Factions in the army work. I'm not handwaving, I literally quoted two paragraphs from the book.

Lol, #denial

And I quoted where it says their Battle Brothers and you chose to ignore it. Case closed.

FMCs cannot vector strike if they jinked... that's nice!

 Ghaz wrote:
And I quoted where it says their Battle Brothers and you chose to ignore it. Case closed.

I respectfully disagree based on my reading of the text preceding the allies matrix, which I quoted above, but I concede the point to you.

The BB transport change is the best of them all. Was dumb to beginwith.

 Ghaz wrote:
And I quoted where it says their Battle Brothers and you chose to ignore it. Case closed.

Instead of being snotty, why not submit this as an FAQ question.

it's painfully obvious that your point is based entirely on how you interpret a picture, and not based on language from the book. The picture is worth a thousand words. Ask them for a few words so you can figure out which thousand they are.

 Vankraken wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.

No more Drop pod fun then???

That's HUGE

This made my War Convo really sad

This made everyone sad. Sharing transports was VERY common.

Not only that but every vehicle formation like the land raider formation or blitz brigade formation can't have passengers inside on turn 1 because same faction detachments are battle brothers with each other. I hope I'm wrong on this because if not GW made a horrible rules decision.

ASK about it, it's a draft, they may not have thought about that specific case.

 pretre wrote:

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Doesn't make me sad.

From a purely narrative aspect, the Drop Pods were always supposed to be a Space Marine thing. it's like boarding torpedoes. A method of troop insertion so violent and so insane you'd have to be crazy (and biologically engineered) to do it.

Having other factions suddenly hijacking Space Marine drop pods was silly.

Bit like all those brand new and stupid looking Space Marine flyers and Centurions and.........now that WAS silly.