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Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 14:45:54


Post by: godardc


Hi guys,
I'm finally getting into a club, so now I want to play only with what I painted (I think it is a good way to motive myself).
A new way to do the hobby, more seriously, perhaps.
I'm curious to know, is it usual to play with an unfinished army, just as I used to do with my friends, or not ?
Personnally, I never finished my Space Marines army because I began a new army (IG), and then began another one (30k). I paint every week, but I didn't use to focus on one of my 3 armies, so none of them was being painted very quicly.
This is why I still have some marines to paint, after all these years.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 14:48:08


Post by: Yarium


I try to play with a fully painted army. Sometimes I'll have partially painted stuff on the table for whatever I have in the works, but it makes me sad whenever I do so.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 14:52:42


Post by: Thairne


 Yarium wrote:
I try to play with a fully painted army. Sometimes I'll have partially painted stuff on the table for whatever I have in the works, but it makes me sad whenever I do so.


This.
I always aspire to put down painted models.

Makes me feel a bit elitist and a bit grumpy if people cannot be bothered to do the same to be honest.
Friend of mine now is putting down a torso-less Defiler counts as Soulgrinder for 2 years now... It's about time I refuse to play an even unassembled model.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 14:55:07


Post by: godardc


Two years !That's a lot of time^^


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 14:55:36


Post by: Brother SRM


If I bring anything unpainted, you can bet after the game it's going right on my painting table to be finished in time for my next game. I always hope the other guy puts down a painted army, but I don't judge them if they don't. Personally I try to play with a wholly painted army every time.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 14:56:08


Post by: Kilkrazy


In my experience it's very unusual for club players to use unpainted figures.

I don't want to reignite the debate about it, though. Certainly some people are more accepting of grey armies.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 14:56:51


Post by: MechaEmperor7000


I play with at least 90% painted models and never bare plastic (they at least get a primer before seeing the field) unless it's a horde army. Then it's gonna be a while.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 14:59:00


Post by: studderingdave


always painted without compromise.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 14:59:02


Post by: edwardmyst


With our local gaming club its play with what you have, painted or otherwise. At the local game store I always only use the armies I have painted. Sadly, in my area the hobby takes a back seat to all the Computer versions, so only two of our 6-7 regulars take any time ion the hobby side (painting modeling converting). I suspect that this is far more normal than we want to think. Remember, places like Dakka attract the more serious players and hobbyists, so polls and such on these sites can be skewed. I can't blame them either. Painting, converting etc is time consuming, and not their real interest in the game.
In counter, the two serious players have multiple 2k plus point armies converted and painted...


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 15:01:25


Post by: Nevelon


If it’s not painted, it’s not on the table*

(I did play some unpainted Eldar in an escalation league. I just couldn’t paint as fast as we were adding points)

But besides that one exception, I only field pained models, and I keep as close to WYSWYG as I can.

Only playing painted is actually a good motivator to spend more time at the bench. I want to field that sternguard squad? Better get cracking with the brush. Envisioning the carnage they can cause on the table helps me though the doldrums of motivation getting paint down.

I prefer to face off against other painted armies. Part of my enjoyment of the game is watching two well painted armies clash. But I’ll play against anyone, painted or not.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 15:11:13


Post by: Elbows


Painted always. If it is a small skirmish game and we run into a situation where we need a specific figure we'll proxy or if one is on the painting bench primed we'll use it. That's rare.

My take on it is rather simple. Miniature wargaming is about putting painted models onto a table filled with nice scenery to create a visual event through which we game. My opinion is that your army is your contribution to a greater whole.

I see it as a bit of a common courtesy that I put on a great table/game/army to better the enjoyment and spectacle of the game. It's a small sign of respect for my opponent, ie. "Hey I bothered putting time and effort into this collaborative process...".



Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 15:22:12


Post by: Commissar Terrence


Better than just having greys. But if you must, keep them grey. But most gw's i went to said you arn't allowed to play with greys....


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 15:30:47


Post by: Jacksmiles


I currently don't play with a fully painted army, but it's all WIP. But my friends and I just started this year, so I feel like that's perfectly valid. We all are working toward painted and WYSIWYG, and it's a process, and we want to play games in the meantime.

It helps that the nearest GW and our LGS don't require paint to play, so we still get to practice with actual terrain.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 15:40:22


Post by: wuestenfux


My policy is to play with fully painted armies only.

Frankly, I haven't applied this policy to my AoS games and to the BoC Marines in our 30k games.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 15:40:25


Post by: tneva82


 Yarium wrote:
I try to play with a fully painted army. Sometimes I'll have partially painted stuff on the table for whatever I have in the works, but it makes me sad whenever I do so.


This.

Too bad it means I have crapload of models that have yet to see use...Stupid impulse purchaces!

edit: As a side note btw as long as there's at least visible progress in painting I don't mind unpainted that much. Armies take time to paint so do I prefer to wait months before first game? Not really.

But as long as there's units getting painted fair enough.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 15:49:02


Post by: Ankhalagon


I play allmost only painted stuff. Because it looks better.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 16:07:23


Post by: Pr3Mu5


I only play painted models, even if its, to my own detriment.
Not finished my SM Devastators...
Facing IG tank formation...
Tough gak. Work with what you have.
Only thing I let slide on is if I've not quite based them completely as I tend to do this last and in bulk... as in 30+ models at a time.

It's a bit of a self imposed punishment for not being proactive enough with painting and a good motivator to pick up that brush.
I only apply this rule to myself though and won't stop someone playing with unpainted figures... I just do the very Christian thing of internalising my burning hatred of their pitiless, waste of space "army".


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 16:12:27


Post by: Unit1126PLL


I try to field fully painted armies. I will see if I can snag some pics at tonight's game!


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 16:24:42


Post by: warhead01


My army is mostly painted. I do try to only field painted models even if those models aren't finished. I have a lot left to do to consider all my models finished.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 16:25:26


Post by: Huron black heart


For my own army I try to get as much painted as possible, if it has to be used unpainted then I will make sure it's done to a degree by my next game.
For my opponent I don't really mind. Painting takes a lot of time and for many it's more of a chore and they'd rather just play. I'd obviously prefer it if everything was painted and we had a fully decked out table full of amazing scenery but it rarely happens that way.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 17:10:20


Post by: jreilly89


Try to, unless I get something I have to play with immediately. I don't really care if my opponent does or doesn't.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 17:23:53


Post by: PyrhusOfEpirus


as a guy whose more into building and playing, not painting, i dont care if mine or my opponent has a painted army. recently our clubs leagues and tournaments have started being full painted only or your opponent gets prefered enemy vs the unpainted models which is a ridiculous advantage and i stopped playing till my army was painted.

Got about 4k painted on commission by a guy at my club, now when i play against guys with unpainted armies or armies painted like gak that were the ones pushing for the prefered enemy rules, i makesure to make some good natured jokes about the poor quality of the paint jobs.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 17:26:33


Post by: Desubot


I want to but i always end up stripping and redoing them at like 90% completion

Its like a greek tragedy or something.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 17:40:33


Post by: edbradders


I prefer to play with a fully painted and based army but , unfortunately, it rarely happens. I usually buy an army big enough to play games and paint a few models then get a bit overwhelmed at what I have left to paint and give up. I have, however, started only buying a squad at a time and making sure I finish painting it before I buy anything else for that army.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 18:13:19


Post by: StevetheDestroyeOfWorlds


I play wit painted and unpainted models.
Currently, all my dark eldar are unpainted, and about half my harlequins are painted, but I still have fun playing them.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 18:38:19


Post by: Zan


I do personally but I don't really care if others do as well. It's always nice to see a beautifully-painted fluff-friendly army but at the same time I'm much more about the people I'm playing with than I am about whether they properly modelled that Assault Cannon or if their paint-scheme properly reflects the 5th Company of the Spess Rehvens or whatever.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 19:27:18


Post by: ProwlerPC


I only play to show off my painting so no greys on the table from me. I don't touch my models without gloves till they are fully painted and sealed so no half painted models from me either. I won't refuse a game against a grey army of doom but I doubt I'll be able to hide my smile though. If I happen to ever run out of orks to paint I might even offer to paint those greys.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 19:51:16


Post by: labmouse42


I use tourney's to motivate myself. It sets deadlines for myself that I have to meet, and the reward is showing up at the event with a shiny, painted army.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 19:57:47


Post by: Melevolence


I'm a big lover of the game itself, despite everything and socializing. So I don't let the fact that my army may not be 100% painted yet stop me from playing a game if the option is there for me. Having fully painted armies does allow players to earn brownie points with each other with passing compliments too.

Of course the end goal is to paint everything, but not having a fully painted army (or if my opponent's army is yet to be painted) detract from the game for me, personally.

It goes without saying that both people having a fully painted army makes for a much more optically pleasant experience.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/16 23:00:51


Post by: nareik


I play with fully painted armies.

I find it visually more appealing and I find it easier to identify what a model is supposed to represent.

You don't need to jump straight into 1500 point games either, you can play smaller games if you have a limited number of models available.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 00:38:00


Post by: Pouncey


I'd like to, and I have more than enough free time and disposable income to have a fully painted army, but I really, really don't like painting and don't trust strangers enough to send my models out to a professional model painter to have him/her paint them for me.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 00:49:57


Post by: Jayden63


Every time. I have enough painted armies that I can play with one while another gets finished on the painting table.

Its pretty much the only way I play, I feel that if the army isn't painted its no real difference than playing with cut out tokens.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 01:20:57


Post by: AncientSkarbrand


I bought a battle force and expected to win games when I started the hobby. Everyone else had 3 years into it. Thus began a buying spree of desperation that has resulted in my collection being an absolutely pitiful mess of grey and primed and partially painted models, with some completed ones in there. Mostly big dudes.

I'm ashamed of my army every time I game but I have a household and family to pay for and upkeep, and if I painted when I felt like playing I wouldn't be playing for a year or more. I have an extremely demanding job as well. These are all excuses, but it really feels like a crushing huge task at this point and my standards exceed my skill. It takes me 8+ hours to paint anything the size of a daemon prince to something I'm proud of. I'm terrible for not giving my collection the love it deserves. I feel like I didn't spend my money wisely because I'm not treating these models like they are worth what they are. I'm not maximizing my investment by making them into something I'm proud of. I hate it, to be honest. It kills me to look at my collection. Any time my models do something cool, it's just a piece of grey plastic with nothing unique about it.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 01:23:47


Post by: labmouse42


AncientSkarbrand wrote:
t it really feels like a crushing huge task at this point and my standards exceed my skill. It takes me 8+ hours to paint anything the size of a daemon prince to something I'm proud of. I'm terrible for not giving my collection the love it deserves.
Spend a few hours to learn how to use an airbrush.
That same prince will take you 1 hour to complete, and will look 500% better with a combination of blending techniques.

My entire daemon army is airbrushed. It's fast, and makes a beautiful base coat. Afterwords I hit the models with hair brushes to complete the details and it's done.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 02:11:45


Post by: Nevelon


 labmouse42 wrote:
AncientSkarbrand wrote:
t it really feels like a crushing huge task at this point and my standards exceed my skill. It takes me 8+ hours to paint anything the size of a daemon prince to something I'm proud of. I'm terrible for not giving my collection the love it deserves.
Spend a few hours to learn how to use an airbrush.
That same prince will take you 1 hour to complete, and will look 500% better with a combination of blending techniques.

My entire daemon army is airbrushed. It's fast, and makes a beautiful base coat. Afterwords I hit the models with hair brushes to complete the details and it's done.


There are a number of ways to get paint down. Airbrushes are a good way of getting a lot done quickly.

I recommend obtainable goals. I try to maintain a 1-a-week goal. Although it works out to being 4 a month, really, I don’t track by the week. And I count bikes as 2, and vehicles and MCs as 4. But if you can maintain that, at the end of the year you are going to have 52 minis. Look at your average army list, even counting vehicles as 4. How many minis does it have?

Dont be intimidated by the pile of grey. Chip away at it.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 02:35:35


Post by: AncientSkarbrand


Thanks alot for the words of encouragement. You've got me thinking seriously about an airbrush purchase and watching painting tutorials.

Nevelon, you hit the nail on the head. Setting attainable goals is something I don't do, when I try and get painting again I always think of the entire pile rather than the individual minis, and that just crushes your spirit. I'll pull 10 or so minis off the shelf and expect myself to work at it solidly in all my spare time until they're finished, which results in me partially painting a few and then getting overwhelmed and giving up, which in turn increases the bad feelings about my hobbyism.

Thanks again for pulling me away from the grey funk. I'm actually thinking positively about painting my models right now.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 02:38:07


Post by: tau tse tung


I aim for it fully painted, although for a quick match I will settle at at Base coat. I like to take pictures of matches so I try to paint at much ass possible.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 02:39:38


Post by: ionusx


i almost do actually


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 02:43:19


Post by: chromedog


Always.
Always have, always will.

Not because I think it's "disrespectful" to play against someone when I have an unpainted army, but because I prefer the look of the models painted.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 03:11:44


Post by: TheManWithNoPlan


 chromedog wrote:
Not because I think it's "disrespectful" to play against someone when I have an unpainted army, but because I prefer the look of the models painted.


This.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 03:17:48


Post by: JimOnMars


Painted, but not based. I'm not sure why, but when I started I said "I'll base them later..."

Now it's later. Still just plain black bases. :(


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 03:28:56


Post by: labmouse42


AncientSkarbrand wrote:
Thanks alot for the words of encouragement. You've got me thinking seriously about an airbrush purchase and watching painting tutorials.
I suggest it.
I'm not that great at painting models. I can follow a formula I find online but I'm not the best. I'm also rather lazy and don't want to spend endless hours painting.

But my stuff now looks decent. The trick is that air brushes can really blend wonderfully. I just keep adding lighter colors to the paint pot and add 3-4 coats per model. Since the coats go on fast, it does not take that long to do.

These are some examples of my airbrushed daemons, and an Avatar I did. The blending is what I really want to highlight.
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Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 04:08:07


Post by: Grief


Holy crap that is so green!


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 04:59:29


Post by: barnowl


4 Armies, one fully painted, 2 partially painted, and one straight grey, Eventually they will all be painted, if GW can stay on one codex and rule book long enough.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 07:42:02


Post by: Drasius


I must be the odd one out, since I will play with my army as soon as it's assembled and continue to paint & play until it's fully painted, then it's time to put that army away and assemble, play and paint a new army. Painting the last model is a trigger for 1 last game and then it's off to storage for at least 6 months while something else gets the spotlight for a while.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 07:53:14


Post by: Griddlelol


I have never, ever used an unpainted unit. I just think it ruins the whole aesthetic of the game if there's grey plastic or black primed models on the board.

I'm not going to throw a hissy fit or refuse to play someone who has the odd unit unpainted, but I'm not going to play you if you've just brought a case and unloaded a bunch of grey plastic flavour of the month models. Might as well just chuck down some cardboard markers with "CAPTAIN POWERFIST" "TACTICAL MARINE" written on them.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 09:20:32


Post by: DarkStarSabre


Between depression, real life stresses, job hunting and general misery it's hard for me to find focus.

My 30k and 40k Death Guard have a fair chunk painted.

My 'nids do as well. But sometimes there will be unpainted units. I need my mojo back to paint to be honest.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 09:31:26


Post by: Paradigm


On my part, always painted all the time, I will only put down unpainted stuff if my opponent is adamant that we play at a higher points value, though even then I rarely have unpainted stuff with me when gaming these days. It's a great motivator to get stuff painted, and looks so much better.

ON the other hand, I'd never hold my opponent to the same standard, everyone has different circumstances, priorities and abilities and I'm not going to judge anyone for hobbying how they want to.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 09:31:34


Post by: ssisal


Assuming 1850ish army's
I now have one fully painted Space Wolf/Knight Army, sans the twolf riders heads..
and 5.5 Dark Angel Armies, of which 2 are fully painted, everything is at least primed and mostly base coated.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 10:10:41


Post by: malamis


My Local GW's manager when I started was pretty hot on '3 colours if you're not a beginner or under 16 to use our tables' and it kinda stuck long after the fact - I find that painted armies are a good indicator of at least 'competent' with the game, and undpainted should then be handled as such ( no triple wyverns on my list for example).

Plus by now I have so many painted models to choose from, the only reason to field unpainted is because they're missing or damaged.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 11:28:01


Post by: Nevelon


 JimOnMars wrote:
Painted, but not based. I'm not sure why, but when I started I said "I'll base them later..."

Now it's later. Still just plain black bases. :(


I put off basing for decades. At least for my 40k stuff, I did some work on my Undead. I’m in the process of doing my armies now, a bit at a time. Probably have enough done to field a painted and based army now!


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 11:39:31


Post by: Nightlord1987


I hate to admit that in my 5+ years of playing (and almost 10 years of collecting) Ive only brought a fully painted army about 3 times...

EDIT- oh wait, never been based. So no. :(


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 11:40:04


Post by: ssisal


nothing is based for me.. im waiting til i have the whole chapter together.. and the whole court and the whole wolfpack flanking force's then everythings getting the same bases.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 11:59:51


Post by: Rune Stonegrinder


I strive to only play with fully painted, but the excitement of getting my new models on the table usually ends up getting to me. They are quickly painted afterwards.

I did have to tell a friend once that it was time to paint his after playing his grey minis for almost a year. To be honest it was probably my fault, I was being nice and waved our local group rule. 3 colors and flock/basing effect or preferred enemy on unpainted units/minis. After I told him I would start to enforce this rule he got them painted pretty fast.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 12:02:33


Post by: Griddlelol


I guess it just comes down to how you feel about the models being "done."

I'm not excited about a new unit until I've painted it. It's just not ready to be used until I've spend hours painting and basing.

I'll admit I've rushed a few paint jobs, especially on tanks (I hate painting tanks) so I can get them on the table, but I always regret it and end up repainting them later.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 13:20:53


Post by: Carlson793


Currently: no. To date, my on-table models have been maybe 20%-50% painted.

However, since switching over to AdMech, I am quickly approaching a 100% painted army.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 13:26:06


Post by: kronk


Fully painted if I go to a tournament or a store for a pick up game.

Casual games with friends? Mostly painted, with some new stuff I'm still working on unpainted, here or there.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 13:30:15


Post by: TheWanderer


If its not painted it doesnt existing....

Back in the day we used to say "2 colour minimum" so even jsut base coat wasnt enough to argue it was "painted"


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 13:34:03


Post by: jeffersonian000


I never field an unpainted model. It's a hobby thing for me. And yes, I think less of my opponent for not even bothering to at least attempt a minimal amount of paint on all of their models, because again it's a hobby thing.

If you don't want to paint, X-Wing has some great models for you!

SJ


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 13:44:55


Post by: Griddlelol


I don't understand people who play 40K and dislike painting.

What exactly do you see in it? It's hardly got a great rule set, and the fluff doesn't require you to buy miniatures.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 14:19:02


Post by: Nazrak


After reading the other thread about some of the ridiculous lists some people have faced, I wonder if enforcement of a "painted models only" rule might mitigate slightly against some of the worst excesses of power-building? Like, if you're thinking of creating a list people aren't going to want to play more than once, is it worth spending the time you have to paint on five riptides, or whatever?

Out of interest, when people do end up fielding ridiculous lists (particularly excessive spamming of the same unit), do they tend to all be fully painted?


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 14:36:04


Post by: jreilly89


 Nazrak wrote:
After reading the other thread about some of the ridiculous lists some people have faced, I wonder if enforcement of a "painted models only" rule might mitigate slightly against some of the worst excesses of power-building? Like, if you're thinking of creating a list people aren't going to want to play more than once, is it worth spending the time you have to paint on five riptides, or whatever?


It won't. Plenty of TFG's at my store have all painted models.



Out of interest, when people do end up fielding ridiculous lists (particularly excessive spamming of the same unit), do they tend to all be fully painted?


Yes.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 14:36:22


Post by: Kap'n Krump


Maybe it's just me, but I play unpainted armies all the time. It's not a big deal to me. I try to have my stuff painted, which is getting easier and easier now that just about everything is painted. But I'm not snobby about people not having their army unpainted.

Though, if I'm being honest, it's better to play against painted armies - even if it is all make believe.

One game store I went to had a house rule about painted models have preferred army v. unpainted models, though they never enforced it.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 15:28:42


Post by: luky7dayz


My painting is pretty basic, but I get three colours on it at least. Sadly my painting skills are abysmal, after 10 years in the hobby i still have troubles painting stuff (I'm just not artistic at all).

I do try and encourage my opponents to finish painting their armies though, as I've seen a lot of grey armies as of late


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 17:37:09


Post by: jeffersonian000


The FLGS I play the most at has a policy in the case of a draw, the better painted army wins. It has an effect of raising the standard.

SJ


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 17:43:01


Post by: Jacksmiles


 jeffersonian000 wrote:
The FLGS I play the most at has a policy in the case of a draw, the better painted army wins. It has an effect of raising the standard.

SJ


That seems kinda harsh. I can understand painted vs. unpainted, but that seems like it would push people with less painting skill/experience (like me) away from the store. But maybe it doesn't! I don't know, I've never been there, can't judge. Just one of those things I hear and think "Maybe this one's not for me."

I want to play with painted armies, but I don't want to lose games because I'm not that good at it. Although, how often do draws really come up?


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 17:52:23


Post by: jeffersonian000


BossJakadakk wrote:
 jeffersonian000 wrote:
The FLGS I play the most at has a policy in the case of a draw, the better painted army wins. It has an effect of raising the standard.

SJ


That seems kinda harsh. I can understand painted vs. unpainted, but that seems like it would push people with less painting skill/experience (like me) away from the store. But maybe it doesn't! I don't know, I've never been there, can't judge. Just one of those things I hear and think "Maybe this one's not for me."

I want to play with painted armies, but I don't want to lose games because I'm not that good at it. Although, how often do draws really come up?

It sets a higher standard. At first you either play better, or you paint better. After a while you end up doing both better.

SJ


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 18:08:04


Post by: TremendousZ


I always try to field as many painted minis as possible. Knowing I have a game coming up is usually good encouragement to pull out the paint pots.

The only people I feel a little negatively towards are those that have no intention of ever picking up a paint brush. We all pay an arm and a leg to amass these collections whether it be money or time. If you don't want to learn how to paint that's fine, but for a few extra dollars you could easily have local player/painter get you some table top ready miniatures. It makes the game more immersive, attractive, and easier to follow to onlookers.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/17 18:30:02


Post by: Jacksmiles


 jeffersonian000 wrote:
BossJakadakk wrote:
 jeffersonian000 wrote:
The FLGS I play the most at has a policy in the case of a draw, the better painted army wins. It has an effect of raising the standard.

SJ


That seems kinda harsh. I can understand painted vs. unpainted, but that seems like it would push people with less painting skill/experience (like me) away from the store. But maybe it doesn't! I don't know, I've never been there, can't judge. Just one of those things I hear and think "Maybe this one's not for me."

I want to play with painted armies, but I don't want to lose games because I'm not that good at it. Although, how often do draws really come up?

It sets a higher standard. At first you either play better, or you paint better. After a while you end up doing both better.

SJ


Not gonna argue with that. I'd just have to play better going there


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/18 04:03:54


Post by: Pouncey


 Griddlelol wrote:
I don't understand people who play 40K and dislike painting.

What exactly do you see in it? It's hardly got a great rule set, and the fluff doesn't require you to buy miniatures.


I used to like painting, like, a decade ago. Now I don't.

Also I really like building and kitbashing and converting the miniatures.

I think I might try Kill Team instead of the standard game. It'd be easier for me to enjoy painting if I only had to paint a dozen models and each one of them was fairly unique.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/19 17:43:52


Post by: thegreatchimp


I'm all for painted but give me greys anyday over rushed, shoddily painted models. I find it tragic than someone who can actually paint well doing a poor job on a unit, all for some mad hurry to churn them out and get them on the table.

A good compromise is to allow partially painted models on the table. The minimum 3 colour rule in gaming stores is a good guideline. It's not an extravagant amount of work to paint the 3 main colours for your models, and then you can shade, highlight and add more colour and detail at your leisure.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/19 17:57:43


Post by: Buddingsquaw


 jeffersonian000 wrote:
The FLGS I play the most at has a policy in the case of a draw, the better painted army wins. It has an effect of raising the standard.

SJ


Now that's a pretty dandy idea, although I can see it being wholly inappropriate for a friendly tournament.
It's a nice way to award effort, though.

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I will only field models I've finished painting. If I'm dieing to field a new unit, it's a great way to get me to finish them.
And that doesn't mean I half-ass or rush it; same, high standards every time. Just do a bit during loading screens for videogames.

Besides, I feel a need to show up the daemon armies that look vomited upon, and the Stormsurge legs with rocket banks hidden in them.
The shopkeep likes me more for, basically, doing better advertising than the others in the shop.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/19 18:10:10


Post by: Edict


painted, however i have no issue playing against unpainted army, not everyone has the time or wants to paint and I'm not there to question their choice since its their models/money. Though someone refusing to play an unpainted army down at the FLGS is probably not going to have a game


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/19 18:15:14


Post by: OgreChubbs


 jeffersonian000 wrote:
The FLGS I play the most at has a policy in the case of a draw, the better painted army wins. It has an effect of raising the standard.

SJ
If thats the case cheat to win or bring the most op units around.

I play with 50/50 at best. People who have fully painted armies tend to be.....the type I do not like playing with tho. They take a plastic army men game way to serious and for those with wives/gf and or kids. So painting for 2 hours per model for 60+ models thats 120 hours atleast, so 6 straight days of painting.

If I was single and or not in a commited relationship I could probly wing the time but as it stands nope. Actually thinking about it even when I was single I spent 6+ hours a day chasing girls which is far more rewarding lol.

Just think of it this way before you become a hater.

8 hours of sleep
8 hours of work
4 hours with kids and wife
2 hours getting kids washed ready for bed
2 hours alone with the wife.
Thats about 5 days of the week.

The other 2 are
8 hours of sleep
8 hours with the kids and wife
2 hours getting kids to bed and cleaned
2 or more hours alone time with the wife
1 hour of church
2 hiurs of alone time
1 hour of getting clean myself.

For 18 years the kids need me alot after that not so much, so I would rather be known as a good father/husband then a guy with alot of painted toys.

So when I go to a store and there is some kids or oer people saying hey your toys arnt up to my standard I have a real problem with them in general.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/19 19:08:39


Post by: General Kroll


I'm lucky enough that I have tonnes of painted stuff. So I'm able to field fully painted armies of Nids, Marines, and Guard. That doesn't mean I wouldn't proxy in something I hadn't built or painted, or stick a half finished Exocrine/Dreadnought on the table if I really needed to.

Generally though I don't, because I like seeing all my stuff painted, and would rather wait until something is finished before I use it.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/19 21:37:38


Post by: Stormonu


Getting a game in is more important to me that if everything's been painted - unfortunately for me, even getting a game organized lately has been a chore.

I'm working through models that have been gray, primed or partially painted since Rogue Trader days (and actually found some bare metal minis from RT times as well). Most of my newer stuff is painted, but the things from the days when I played more RPGs than wargames needs to be painted up.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/20 13:08:53


Post by: jeffersonian000


OgreChubbs wrote:
 jeffersonian000 wrote:
The FLGS I play the most at has a policy in the case of a draw, the better painted army wins. It has an effect of raising the standard.

SJ
If thats the case cheat to win or bring the most op units around.

Spoiler:
I play with 50/50 at best. People who have fully painted armies tend to be.....the type I do not like playing with tho. They take a plastic army men game way to serious and for those with wives/gf and or kids. So painting for 2 hours per model for 60+ models thats 120 hours atleast, so 6 straight days of painting.

If I was single and or not in a commited relationship I could probly wing the time but as it stands nope. Actually thinking about it even when I was single I spent 6+ hours a day chasing girls which is far more rewarding lol.

Just think of it this way before you become a hater.

8 hours of sleep
8 hours of work
4 hours with kids and wife
2 hours getting kids washed ready for bed
2 hours alone with the wife.
Thats about 5 days of the week.

The other 2 are
8 hours of sleep
8 hours with the kids and wife
2 hours getting kids to bed and cleaned
2 or more hours alone time with the wife
1 hour of church
2 hiurs of alone time
1 hour of getting clean myself.

For 18 years the kids need me alot after that not so much, so I would rather be known as a good father/husband then a guy with alot of painted toys.

So when I go to a store and there is some kids or oer people saying hey your toys arnt up to my standard I have a real problem with them in general.

I'm sorry your life seems so dreadful to you. You must work from home, since your regime does not include travel time. Now, I worked from home, just think about all those hours of free time I'd have for the hobby rather than wasting it all on commuting!

SJ


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/20 13:21:27


Post by: Griddlelol


OgreChubbs wrote:

1 hour of getting clean myself.


I'm not sure what's more shocking. That it takes you an hour to wash, or that you only wash on weekends.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/20 13:29:09


Post by: jeffersonian000


 Griddlelol wrote:
OgreChubbs wrote:

1 hour of getting clean myself.


I'm not sure what's more shocking. That it takes you an hour to wash, or that you only wash on weekends.

I assumed he's European. Multiple daily bathing is mostly an American thing.

SJ


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/20 13:35:44


Post by: Vankraken


I had a fully painted Ork army once.... then I bought more stuff and never could kept up with all the new plastic entering my life


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/20 15:10:15


Post by: OgreChubbs


 jeffersonian000 wrote:
 Griddlelol wrote:
OgreChubbs wrote:

1 hour of getting clean myself.


I'm not sure what's more shocking. That it takes you an hour to wash, or that you only wash on weekends.

I assumed he's European. Multiple daily bathing is mostly an American thing.

SJ
Actually some of the alone time with the wife is in the shower but thats the TMI place. On weekends when I have free time I get a nice long bath where I like to read.

Also travel time is not really a thing, I work at a saw mill about 10 minutes down the road. But I could not care less what you think and how sad of a life you must live where you need to try and insult me.

That may be something to work on then you will not have so much alone time to play with toys


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/20 15:23:27


Post by: Neferhet


Well,i always try to field all painted models.
This is out of respect for my opponent that might have an all painted army and also because this way you show your opponent you are not a "net lister" but someone who actually cares about the hobby ;-)
All-grey armies are usually (in my area) a sign of WAAC netlisters


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/21 04:33:39


Post by: Twiqbal


 Griddlelol wrote:
I don't understand people who play 40K and dislike painting.

What exactly do you see in it? It's hardly got a great rule set, and the fluff doesn't require you to buy miniatures.


i own 100 steel legion miniatures and they're a gigantic PIA to paint. plus i actually like playing mech guard since assault is dead.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/21 04:40:19


Post by: CrownAxe


 Griddlelol wrote:
I don't understand people who play 40K and dislike painting.

What exactly do you see in it? It's hardly got a great rule set, and the fluff doesn't require you to buy miniatures.

Is it that hard to believe that some people actually have fun playing 40k?


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/21 10:01:32


Post by: ssisal


part of the fun for me is collecting the chapter. im watching every month some more troops show up from the warp. they come in quicker then i can fully paint them.. but it bugs me having them sit in the boxes so i keep putting them together.. sometimes i prime them I have far far more then i need to play with.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/21 10:52:48


Post by: jeffersonian000


OgreChubbs wrote:
 jeffersonian000 wrote:
 Griddlelol wrote:
OgreChubbs wrote:

1 hour of getting clean myself.


I'm not sure what's more shocking. That it takes you an hour to wash, or that you only wash on weekends.

I assumed he's European. Multiple daily bathing is mostly an American thing.

SJ
Actually some of the alone time with the wife is in the shower but thats the TMI place. On weekends when I have free time I get a nice long bath where I like to read.

Also travel time is not really a thing, I work at a saw mill about 10 minutes down the road. But I could not care less what you think and how sad of a life you must live where you need to try and insult me.

That may be something to work on then you will not have so much alone time to play with toys

My apologies, I thought I was being factious when in fact I was being insulting. It was not my intention to create harm.

SJ


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/21 12:49:45


Post by: Hawkeye888


I have a large ork horde and atleast most of them are primed...some are painted, some are just green, no details. I need to get it to a 4 color basic paint job.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/21 18:23:06


Post by: Klowny


I try to have everything painted up completely before it hits the table, or else its first thing on the desk to get done after the game. I have a massive amount of unboxed plastic waiting for me. I find it therapeutic to pull out a box and start the whole process, finish up a squad and start again. So I've promised myself to only play painted as it gives me impoteus to build the cool stuff.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/27 04:38:49


Post by: nateprati


I grew up playing games like comand and conquer, empires and starcraft. There is somthing great about sending droves of units to die for a cause. When I first looked into 40k I was near 20 years old hanging with friends saying do you remember that game that was way to complicated and expensive to play when we were younger? Then I realized 40k was the same as those old computer games just no computer required and a better understanding of gambling on stats vs stats.

I guess this all leads to the game being first and foremost a visual experience that I can immerse into and imagine. I find it much harder to get into if more than half of the units/terrain is unfinished. Most people at my local store simply don't have the time off to actually paint 2000+ points but it really hurts the overall experience of the game when I'm playing grey armies. We made a commitment to this hobby, not just the game in order to give ourselves that immersion. I won't refuse to play but it sucks when they aren't even primed or we are playing on a kitchen table with books and cups. I'll still do it because let's face it I'm an addict to 40k but it's for these reasons strikingscorpion has so many views.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/27 05:55:16


Post by: jeffersonian000


Those "old computer games" were written to do what the table top games have been doing for hundreds of years, just with less space and more pixals.

SJ


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/27 19:00:24


Post by: Tech4417


Well if I'm being honest I paint 2 minis a day in some fashion, and work on a schedule. In this regard I will build 2 SM's, and prime black on day one. Day 2 is base coating in a 50/50 mix of Lahmien Medium/Leadbelcher, follow by weathering with Agrax/Bieltan Green. Day 3 is detailing with Runefang Steel and washing with Nuln Oil and edge high lighting with Iron Breaker. Day 4 Storm Host Silver for the eyes, and use whichever technical color I will be doing the helmet lenses in(usually Soulstone Blue), and finally assemble completely attaching the weapon arm. After doing this for an entire squad(15 models as its a HH Iron Hands Legion), I will base all 15 and begin my next models.

This time table deviates, if I have more free time I can do in 2 - 3 days, obviously this sounds daunting, but setting yourself a schedule or plan helps ALOT but the main thing is keeping your eye on the prize, and goals set, the pride you feel in seeing the hard work you've done finished is a great feeling, and seeing them on the table next to another well painted army makes it look gorgeous and vivid, and seeing a painted army may inspire someone to paint theirs to the same level, and give someone the same pride you feel.

Obviously, it's a process, but one worth doing. So as far as it goes I would never judge and would gladly play against and unpainted one and hope someone takes from mine inspiration for their own.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/27 19:43:33


Post by: Brennonjw


I try, but painting takes a lot of time. It's fun when it happens, but I will NEVER turn down a game or judge someone for not having a fully painted army. All in all, my 'standard' list is 80-90% painted, however, all of my models for my army accounted for, I'm probably closer to 60%


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/27 20:32:39


Post by: Ond Angel


I prefer to field my painted models, definitely. There are around 5 I like to use as much as possible, but they're not ones that can be fielded as a squad together, unfortunately. Just ones that came out better than others.

As for opponents, I definitely prefer to see painted models, but I wouldn't judge or turn down a game over it. People don't always have the time for a few reasons; personal issues, being out of town/away from models, no money spare this month because unexpected bills, etc. There's plenty of reasons for it, and it happens. It could even be that you prefer playing over painting.

Actually, I still have a box of 100% unassembled Centurions because I can't decide between an assault squad or a second dev squad. The box has been sat on a shelf for around 2 years now. A good chunk of that, however, is just because I've been out of the hobby for about 9+ months now. Also why my army is still sat partially unpainted, and some men still lacking their grav-gun arms. It happens, there are many reasons for a person to not get the time.



Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/27 21:02:47


Post by: Talizvar


Did someone say they play with unpainted armies!?!?!?!?!

With groups I play, we usually have fully painted armies.
Unless we ALL had adopted a new game and we may not be willing to wait that long.

I have been on this topic enough times to now keep it short:
PLEASE try to paint, it usually does not have to be all done but at least show some progress each time you play, to show you are working on it.
It does not need to be jaw-dropping painting... even better, get all the block-painting out of the way and then detail as you see fit later.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/28 04:40:31


Post by: Ir0njack


I do not despite playing 40k for over ten years play with a fully painted army. At one point i was very close to a fully painted force but circumstances conspired to see that army out of my life and me take a break for a long while afterwards. Now though I play almost exclusively IG and once AM dropped i picked them up. What i do have painted is to a standard that is above and beyond tabletop quality which is probably my downfall considering I enjoy horde IG.

I doubt I'll have it all finished or ever finished because well honestly, I enjoy collecting and converting far more than painting. When I do paint though, I give it my best.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/28 07:28:06


Post by: Scott-S6


I almost always play with and against a fully painted army.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/28 08:34:16


Post by: Gamgee


I do, but many of my models have only shading or no shading or highlighting. I hate shading and highlighting and it's only recently my new models have incorporated both barring some exceptions that are just too tedious for the end result.

Other than a lack of that I usually have at least 5-6 colours in my army and sometimes more if its an important model (which is usually shaded and highlighted).

So yes beyond any doubt. I also tend to paint all my models in partial pieces for the best effect.


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/29 00:06:01


Post by: conker249


I play fully painted. It brings me joy to see a battlefield with painted armies. At my club there is only a handful of players that bring fully painted armies. I love those games, as they tend to bring players that love the game, instead of just buying what is most powerful. It sounds Elitist, but It makes the game more fun(and makes Bat-rep pictures worthwhile) I won't turn down a game because the opponents army isn't painted though


Do you play with a full painted army ? @ 2016/06/29 00:41:08


Post by: Talizvar


 conker249 wrote:
I play fully painted. It brings me joy to see a battlefield with painted armies. At my club there is only a handful of players that bring fully painted armies. I love those games, as they tend to bring players that love the game, instead of just buying what is most powerful. It sounds Elitist, but It makes the game more fun(and makes Bat-rep pictures worthwhile) I won't turn down a game because the opponents army isn't painted though
Everything said here I think is the "right" attitude.
Except maybe the "sounds elitist" more like the "esthetic" of it, you do not demand it, it just seems that much better a game, it is "pretty".