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This is a thread to track the progress of the Dreadball Xtreme Kickstarter by Mantic games, an alternate self-standing gameplay expansion for Dreadball.

Link to the Kickstarter page

About the Game:

- Minis are all single-piece plastic, same stuff that is being used in Mars Attacks. No assembly required.
- There are no set teams, you can buy whatever players you like from whatever team you like to build your own custom team.
- Lots of violence, lots of death gameplay. There are rules for kicking players while they're down!

DreadBall Xtreme is the underground sports game of the future and the follow-up to the hit board game DreadBall – The Futuristic Sports Game.



Two teams battle it out on the pitch to outscore each other, with all new twists:

- No Referee = More Violence for Everyone: with no one to stop the bloodshed, anything goes! Sucker punches and stomps are the norm, and the introduction of explosive collars, deadly traps and bloodsucking aliens only increase the level of violence.

- Customize your Battlefield: games are organized in prisons and warehouses at a moment’s notice, using industrial scenery to shake things up - everywhere from the scoring zone to the ball launch location can change!

- Play as Enigmatic Sponsors: the powerful organizers behind the game, Sponsors dictate your play-style and are experts in intimidation, blackmail and illegal gambling. Best of all, Sponsors allow you to build entirely unique teams out of any player combination you like!

Stretch Goal List (completed stretch goals in italics)

$550k: Eclipse sponsor, free for Frenzy backers.

$535k: Kryphos, Koris MVP, free for $150+ backers.
$525k: Hobgoblin and Koris teams produced, +32 free minis for Frenzy.
$515k: Medibot produced, free for Frenzy backers.
$500k: Season 5 rulebook produced, digital copy free for $100+ backers, printed copy free for $375+ backers. KS Exclusive signed art print added free for $75+ backers. Free season 6 team of your choice for Rampage backers.
$480k: Schnorkel the Avenger, Elastopod MVP, free for $150+ backers.
$470k: The Excavator, Brokkr MVP, free for $150+ backers.
$460k: Sann-gar, Giant added into the DBX multiplayer expansion.
$445k: Galdo, Rebs Kraaw MVP, free for $150+ backers.
$435k: Irsala, Sephalin MVP, free for $150+ backers.
$425k: Forgefather Iron Ancestor, Giant added into the DBX multiplayer expansion.
$410k: Crypt, Crystallan MVP, free for $150+ backers.
$400k: Forgefather Brokkr Team produced, 16 free minis for $375+ backers.
$385k: Frenzy dice added to Frenzy.
$380k: Lyra the Fixer MVP, free for $150+ backers.
$370k: Brute Force, Mechanite MVP, free for $150+ backers.
$360k: Season 4 rulebook produced, digital copy free for $100+ backers, printed copy free for $375+ backers.
$350k: Mechanites Robot Team produced, 16 free minis for $375+ backers.
$325k: Digital Short Story Compendium, free copy for all backers.
$315k: Dead Man Davitz, Plague MVP.
$300k: + 5 Free Agents added to $100+ backers.
$290k: Acrylic Counters, free for $375+ backers.
$285k: Alt. poses for Convict and Asterian teams.
$275k: Asylum, MVP, free for $100+ backers.
$260k: Free rules upgraded to Mantic Digital versions.
$250k: Plague Team produced. +1 Free team of your choice for $100 and $150 pledge levels. 16 Plague added to Frenzy ($375).
$225k: Kailasa, Asterian MVP added free to $100+ pledge levels.
$210k: +4 prone minis added to the DBX boxed game.
$200k: Chovar Psychozoan, Giant added into the DBX multiplayer expansion.
$175k: Brickbat Vognar MVP added free to $100+ pledge levels.
$160k: Red/blue plastic bases made. Boxed game upgraded with them.
$150k: +4 Free Agent minis in the DBX boxed game.
$125k: +16 extra Convict/Asterian minis for $100+ pledge levels.
$100k: Project Funded.


Pledge Levels and Rewards Guide

There are two main pledge levels, Rampage ($150) and Frenzy ($375).
Here is a list of everything included in these pledge levels, along with all stretch goal freebies.

Note: By "RRP" (Kickstarter retail price) I mean, the value of the freebies as they appear in the add-ons section, as the final RRPs for the products have not been decided. Also, currently I'm making a reasonable assumption that the core contents of Rampage are worth $150 RRP in themselves. Also listed at the end is an estimate for the actual full retail value of the pledge levels, based on current dreadball prices of $25 for a team of 8 and $25 for a pack of 4 MVPS.

$150 - "Rampage": 109 minis total. Current total value = $323 RRP. Estimated retail value = $385
- Dreadball Xtreme boxed game. ($75 RRP, 31 minis)
- Dreadball Player Manual
- Xtreme sponsors set. (4 minis)
- Xtreme multiplayer expansion (with customizable pitch and 3 giants).
- KS exclusive Ardia Shi'lek ($10)

- Stretch goal rewards (listed below)
- 8 extra Asterian minis. ($15 RRP)
- 8 extra Convict minis. ($15 RRP)
- 4 extra Asterian/Convict prones.
- Brickbat Vognar MVP ($5 RRP)
- Kailasa, Asterian MVP ($5 RRP)
- Asylum, Convict MVP ($5 RRP)
- 5 extra Free Agent minis ($8 RRP)
- Dead Man Davitz, Plague MVP ($5 RRP)
- Brute Force, Mechanite MVP ($5 RRP)
- Lyra the Fixer, MVP ($5 RRP)
- Crypt, Crystallan MVP ($5 RRP)
- Irsala, Sephalin MVP ($5 RRP)
- Galdo, Rebs Kraaw MVP ($5 RRP)
- The Excavator, Brokkr MVP ($5 RRP)
- Schnorkel the Avenger, Elastopod MVP ($5 RRP)
- Minx, turn counter cheerleader ($5 RRP)
- Kryphos, Koris MVP ($5 RRP)

- Free Season 5 Team of your choice. ($15 RRP)
- Free Season 6 Team of your choice. ($15 RRP)
- 8 extra Plague minis. ($15 RRP)
- 8 extra Mechanite minis. ($15 RRP)


$375 - "Frenzy": - 241 minis total. Current total value = $563 RRP. Estimated retail value = $1027
- Dreadball Xtreme boxed game. ($75 RRP)
- Dreadball Player Manual
- Xtreme sponsors set.
- Xtreme multiplayer expansion (with customizable pitch and 3 giants)
- KS exclusive Ardia Shi'lek ($10 RRP)

- Stretch goal rewards (listed below)
- 8 extra Asterian minis. ($15 RRP)
- 8 extra Convict minis. ($15 RRP)
- 4 extra Asterian/Convict prones
- Brickbat Vognar MVP ($5 RRP)
- Chovar Psychozoan, Giant ($10 RRP)
- Kailasa, Asterian MVP ($5 RRP)
- Asylum, Convict MVP ($5 RRP)
- 5 extra Free Agent minis ($8 RRP)
- Dead Man Davitz, Plague MVP ($5 RRP)
- Brute Force, Mechanite MVP ($5 RRP)
- Lyra the Fixer, MVP ($5 RRP)
- Crypt, Crystallan MVP ($5 RRP)
- Irsala, Sephalin MVP ($5 RRP)
- Galdo, Rebs Kraaw MVP ($5 RRP)
- The Excavator, Brokkr MVP ($5 RRP)
- Schnorkel the Avenger, Elastopod MVP ($5 RRP)
- Kryphos, Koris MVP ($5 RRP)

- Acrylic Counter set ($15 RRP)
- 16 Plague Mutants ($25 RRP)
- 16 Robots ($25 RRP)
- 16 Crystallans ($25 RRP)
- 16 Sphyr ($25 RRP)
- 16 Rebs ($25 RRP)
- 16 Forgefather Brokkrs ($25 RRP)
- 16 Koris ($25 RRP)
- 14 Hobgoblins ($25 RRP)
- 16 Tsudochans ($25 RRP)
- 16 Ada-Lorena ($25 RRP)
- Hector Weiss, Speedball MVP ($10 RRP)
- Frenzy dice ($10 RRP)
- ODB rubber mat ($20 RRP)
- Dreadball Challenge Cup, 4 minis ($25 RRP)
- Medibot ($5 RRP)
- Minx, turn counter cheerleader ($5 RRP)


For anyone looking at frenzy and not seeing the value yet, there are 12 teams planned for this Kickstarter, it is likely that Frenzy will end up including 16 players + prone minis for all of them.

Kicktraq page:

Hmm, I dunno. I may get the basic level - the equivalent of Deadzone Recon or Dreadball Jack. But it's just far too soon on the heels of the other kickstarts for anything like Striker or Strike Team.

Launch date rumoured to be 21st February.

Copy and paste of my post on the other thread

Jake covered it on his blog it may have evolved a bit (this is over a year old) but the basics are there and recent news hasn't changed much they are looking to add some sort of scatter terrain features as well as the games are played in Warehouses, Cargo bays etc.

http://quirkworthy.com/2012/09/10/dreadball-xtreme/

EDIT: this came up in recent podcast

Dreadball Extreme details from the interview

You pick a team sponsor that allows access to various different players and you have a number of credits to spend to build your team.

Scoring zones are the same but there are lots of obstacles on the pitch.

Base game Convicts and Asterians - new Asterian team more brutal than the current one.

6-8 new MVPs

KS will fund new teams that can be used in regular Dreadball as well.

Possibly 3 new Seasons 4,5,6 - 4 new teams each (12 total) - depends on funding.

Aiming for 24 teams in total over 6 seasons (not including MA team)

Dreadball Extreme pitch will be like the Ultimate pitch (mouse pad type) also possible that the original pitch will be done like this as a stretch goal.

Absolutely love Dreadball, think it's one of the best games to come out over a recent years.

As such will be watching this with interest!

I like dreadball. I do think though perhaps its time Mantic just released new products to market and gave kickstarter a miss.

They have a decent playerbase for this expansion, they have lots of gaming shops running tournaments and supporting all their products (I bought deadzone from a shop due to them actually having a set out to look at). Let those shops have all the sales for once.

 scarletsquig wrote:
- Starter teams are Convicts vs. Asterians (a different type than the regular dreadball ones).

Damn it, Mantic, it's not that bloody hard. Put the board, rules and stuff in its own box, and then sell it as a bundle with two teams of the customer's choice.

Reserving judgement. May go in for the base game. Slight potential to bump up to full sweet spot if its just that good and I sell some olds models. Maybe.

NoggintheNog wrote:
I like dreadball. I do think though perhaps its time Mantic just released new products to market and gave kickstarter a miss.

They have a decent playerbase for this expansion, they have lots of gaming shops running tournaments and supporting all their products (I bought deadzone from a shop due to them actually having a set out to look at). Let those shops have all the sales for once.

Yep, and expend the time they would have used on the KS catching up on customer service issues and evolving their processes to lessen issues in the future.

NoggintheNog wrote:
I like dreadball. I do think though perhaps its time Mantic just released new products to market and gave kickstarter a miss.

They have a decent playerbase for this expansion, they have lots of gaming shops running tournaments and supporting all their products (I bought deadzone from a shop due to them actually having a set out to look at). Let those shops have all the sales for once.

They do.

I am still waiting on my Deadzone-stuff from the Kickstarter. With Mantic, you're more likely to get it from the shops either way

Might come on board with this one.

Sci-fi sports games are a low priority for me, and after buying into Deadzone and Mars Attacks, my wallet's saying no to doing a sweet spot pledge for this one. I think I'll pledge $1 to keep up with the Warpath universe developments (after all, Dreadball turned into a test-bed for a bunch of new Warpath / Deadzone races and designs), and in case any new must-have items for Deadzone creep into the backer survey. And possibly to get another Blaine fig, but I already have one and will be getting another, so I'm not sure I need to have three of him.

After the Deadzone accessory sprue and Antenociti bundles, I already have plenty of barrels, sci-fi boxes, warehouse bric-a-brac, etc. It'll be interesting to see what Dreadball EX might add to the mix.

I also have to agree that Mantic need to stop having two locked-in starting teams with no customer choice.

I'll also be in this for KS exclusives and "can I use this for Deadzone?" buys.

I did go in on Mars Attacks, but ended up converting half the pledge back into Deadzone terrain (which is really awesome once you stick two fingers up at the connectors and just glue it together).

If there's a sprue of obstacles, cargo crates etc. and general sci-fi scatter terrain/ street furniture I'll go in for a healthy chunk of that.

I guess they are trying to make a shop ready box set straight out of the gates but a stripped down set with no teams and just credit in your pledge to buy 2 or 4 teams would be a good option.

This time the "sweet spot" will probably be a mix of the box set with 2 set teams (Convicts and Asterians) and then a set amount of credit to spend on other stuff. A lot of people didn't want all of the 4 original teams. To be honest not a big fan of the Asterians so hopefully these are sufficiently different at some point I might make an Asterian Cypher team from the Deadzone Cyphers there's a few with guantlets that will work with little conversion.

Can't see myself buying all 12 teams again (if it gets that far) still have a few of the original teams sitting in a box that I won't get around to for a good while. Convicts and Brokkrs looking good though.

I'm thinking the purple stuff in the background of the painted convicts pic might be the new asterians?

Really wish I knew the source of that pic, since it was taken a couple of weeks ago. Obviously some game convention or something that Mantic was at, but not many pics were taken.

I have a vague feeling it was taken during gaming at mantic HQ, but I can't remember where I've got the idea from

Probably taken at the Mars Attacks playtest event, then.

Hmm another KS by Mantic? Not this time for me.
While they generaly can deliver on time it is often not a real saving for the backer and it's always not complete.
Still waiting for more than half my stuff of Deadzone first wave.(the stuff they wanted to deliver with the first wave)

Also the balance of the first Dreadball Seasons wasn't very good (judwan anyone) and just for the minis the quality isn't that great.

So why are Asterians hanging around in back alleys and playing ball with human hobos and misfits?

Pardon the OT, but are Brokkr's just Forgefathers that aren't Forgefathers?

They are Forgefathers but they are scrap merchants so they fit into the whole seedy underside thing.

Forge Father Brokkrs

Brokkrs are the metal scrap merchants of Forge Father society. They aggressively excavate an area for whatever materials they can find with the aim of putting them to good use back in the Star Realm – whether that’s raw minerals or concrete foundations. They are protected on their mission by the Forge Guard, though they aren’t bad in combat themselves. Each carries a Hailstorm Pistol to defend themselves with, and their heat hammers are perfect for swatting aside pesky Plague or irritating Asterians.

Thanks, thought it might have just been their race, with Forgefathers being the military caste.

xeper wrote:
Hmm another KS by Mantic? Not this time for me.
While they generaly can deliver on time it is often not a real saving for the backer and it's always not complete.
Still waiting for more than half my stuff of Deadzone first wave.(the stuff they wanted to deliver with the first wave)

Also the balance of the first Dreadball Seasons wasn't very good (judwan anyone) and just for the minis the quality isn't that great.

Always incomplete? Not a real savings? I can't begin to say how cheap my BOGOs have been in comparison to buying retail. Yes, buying Deadzone teams in the KS are the same price as retail-no savings. But getting a BOGO set of teams is $2 cheaper than the best deals you can find online. Not a lot, but it adds up. Oh, and I've only had one order that was incomplete and it was solved very quickly. I don't count the dice for DZ as everyone was short, they admitted they ran out and we're getting hem next shipment. For every person that complains they had an incomplete shipment, there is an equal or greater amount of people who got their full order. Now, 50% accuracy is horrible, yes. I'm just saying your absolute of "never" is 100% wrong. That's why you should never deal in absolutes-because in an absolute, if you're the tiniest bit wrong, it makes your whole argument wrong. That's not just dealing with Mantic, that's a rule of math that just happens to apply here.

Unless you meant they aren't always complete and words are backwards due to different parts of the world. In which case I retract a majority of that statement.

Well MY orders always had been incomplete 2*pledges for Dreadball and my Deadzone pledge.
The only real savings are in the BOGO deals all other stuff you can get for the same price retail, without the risk of buying a bad gamesystem (stuff you know after release).
If i would have considered missing dice and bases i would be even below 45%^^ (only received one of two Gameboxes and the one is missing all Mercenarys some sprues of environment, well dice ,big Bases, has damaged cards...)
Dreadball i had two missing teams,some missing MVPs ,missing mini parts ... (in the end they send everything but still no good impressions)
Of course you could say it is a minority but you can read, on the KS comments, about a lot of guys with Assault/suppression who only have received one Strike team so far...(but they had enough to fullfill store Preorders...)
I still wish them the best, but two KS have been pretty bad experiences and i would think bad of myself if i would support that again. Also i love Deadzone and still have some stuff coming for 2nd survey but for now it was my last Mantic KS.

I'm in for a dollar. I really don't want a lot more time soul time-consuming restic bringing me down, so the only reason I might increase my pledge during the survey is if they have some amazing characters for low, low prices.


Also, they had better not release any kind of EXTREME! KS without an homage to this guy:

The convict miniatures shown don't do much to sell it... I like the idea, but if those see the minis that are going into the box, it's not for me.

Yeah, I don't really like the convicts either. The grogan is a nice tie-in but the deadzone grogans look a lot less derpy than that guy, and the rest of the convicts aren't superb either so far. We'll see what happens I guess

I'd jump in if they make the original board in the mouse pad material. They say that might be a stretch goal, so I hope enough people pledge to unlock that.

Is it new teams based on existing races, or new races?

At the moment, it looks like it's expanding current Warpath and Deadzone races back into Dreadball.

Could we be seeing a Kraaw team, perhaps? Imagine a team of flying / gliding guys like Ludwig...

 insaniak wrote:
The convict miniatures shown don't do much to sell it... I like the idea, but if those see the minis that are going into the box, it's not for me.

Yeah, I was going to say it would be nice if the convicts catered to the fans of the most popular gang in Necromunda, but Mantic continues to disappoint.