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2014/07/11 01:43:48
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated May 10th, pg28)
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streetsamurai wrote:If they ever reopen the pledge managr, i'll be willing to add a boxed set for you Mathieu. I live in Montreal so it should be easy to find a place to meet. Though at this stage im wondering if, with all these delay, we willl get the game before 2020
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Edit: While the unarmoured sets was rather underwhelming, the rawhide armour ones look stunning. Really eager to get this game.
I'm pretty sure the Pledge Manager is getting re-opened tomorrow?
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2014/07/11 01:54:44
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated May 10th, pg28)
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Using Object Source Lighting
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It's, ah, great, that he's a perfectionist, but this is getting to the point where it'll actually need to be near-perfect for it to be worth it. It's getting to the point where I'm starting to get more frustrated than happy with these updates... still looking forward to getting this, but no longer excited...
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2014/07/11 01:58:07
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated May 10th, pg28)
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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We'll get it when we get it. I never really thought we'd get it close to on time in the first place. I think we'll all be very pleased whenever we actually do get our goods.
The real question though, is if this will deliver first, or if Toughest Girls will complete fulfillment first.
I'm glad to hear that they're going to officially reopen the pledge manager, too. That means I'll be able to get my Slenderman.
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2014/07/11 02:04:43
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated May 10th, pg28)
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Yeah, eventually I'm hoping he reaches 'close enough!' before, say, Q1 2015.
Because here comes the Dreaded Chinese New Year, again.
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2014/07/11 02:18:34
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated May 10th, pg28)
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Major
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It's a nice update, but like others I'm not...angry about the delays (because it is what it is there) but it's dulling the excitement level? I don't know how to describe it really. The impatience I have to get the things is dulling my ability to actually be excited about the prospect of getting the things? Meh, hopefully that makes a bit of sense.
As far as the unarmored kits and their strange backs, I do have to wonder if that's a compromise with compatibility on other armor kits. The original 4 survivors don't have that trait, but they're more akin to GW's single-pose characters than multi-part "mix and match" stuff. It'd at least make sense if that was the root cause. Also, even if it is a bit odd-looking it's likely to be the least odd-looking thing on the board still.
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2014/07/11 02:33:43
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated May 10th, pg28)
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Thanks for the offers, guys. That's super nice.
I'd be partial to the offer from my own city. Although having cincydooley smuggle some bourbon across the border could be... interesting, I only have a small apartment (relatively speaking) and couldn't house the whole family couch-surfing it.
How much is the box of doom already?
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2014/07/11 02:37:28
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated May 10th, pg28)
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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Many bourbons I do have, and I've had bottles smuggled to Quebec just this year for another Canadian friend named Mathieu.
The game contents are absurd. Lemme see if I can grab a photo.
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2014/07/11 02:57:37
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated May 10th, pg28)
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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On the bright side, that list of what has been finished, and what is still pending (and at what stage of production the pending items are), certainly indicates that quite a lot has been done.
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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2014/07/11 03:01:40
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated May 10th, pg28)
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While that is good news, his reluctance/refusal to even estimate a ship date is not encouraging.
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2014/07/11 03:42:59
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated May 10th, pg28)
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Added the latest update to the first post. Lots of spoiler tags for those big pictures.
Adam's refusal to openly commit to a fulfillment date can certainly be taken as a bad omen but I don't believe there's anything sinister about it. From previous communiques Adam's always come across a genuinely good bloke and he's been rather transparent with the state of things as he believes them to be. It's probably just as simple as not wanting to deliver more bad news in case he can't reach another target date.
It's certainly lamentable since this continues to be the mother lode of my KS pledges.
Also, huzzah! Male pinup, buttloads of bits, awesome plastic sprue shots. Very happy with the update despite the presumably long delay. Holiday Nico might be named rather aptly.
@Mathieu / Cincy
I assume that by "box of doom" you're referring to the Kingdom Death:Monster game box. There hasn't been an updated visual guide (works well with official text guide), but the one on the front page of the kickstarter had what was going to be in at the close of the campaign; the list has grown since then and considerably so, I'd say.
Question: Will items on the re-opened pledge manager be listed at KS prices? Time to hide the budget sheets.
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Sinful Hero wrote:
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@kingdomdeath: All store orders between the 10th and 21st of July will not ship until AFTER the 21st. I (joe) will be out of town for this duration. Thanks
Argh! Received my incorrectly packed order today. Might have to wait awhile to have the situation remedied it seems.
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2014/07/11 04:05:36
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated May 10th, pg28)
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Dentry wrote:
Question: Will items on the re-opened pledge manager be listed at KS prices? Time to hide the budget sheets.
GOOD GOD I HOPE SO.
I'm hoping that Slenderman didn't double in price since the last time the pledge manager was open. I could have sworn it was $25 back then. Now he's listed at $50 in that update?
Makes me worried we'll see some significant mark up this time around- which is good for KD, as they probably need it to cover shipping, but sucks for me, as I sat twiddling my thumbs waiting to find out if I could upgrade from a basic game to Survivor.
I guess all will be revealed tomorrow...
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2014/07/11 04:16:19
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Fixture of Dakka
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$50 is the retail price for Slenderman. In the update, Adam lists the updated box contents and size. It's grown considerably.
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Black Bases and Grey Plastic Forever:My quaint little hobby blog.
40k- The Kumunga Swarm (more)
Count Mortimer’s Private Security Force/Excavation Team (building)
Kabal of the Grieving Widow (less)
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2014/07/11 05:01:06
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated May 10th, pg28)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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Alpharius wrote:While that is good news, his reluctance/refusal to even estimate a ship date is not encouraging.
Agreed. You can only delay so long, even with all these bonuses, before it really starts to wear on you.
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2014/07/11 05:23:43
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Been Around the Block
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In all honestly I almost wish he'd STOP adding stuff as I have no clue if its adding to the delay or not; and it certainly can't help, and I'm sure it bumps the price up.
I already said it and it may just be because this is only my 2nd kickstarter but this is quite a wait and while I love all I see it SURELY would help if there was more videos or something; I know Adam doesn't want to spoil his world but to expect backers to be continuously invested especially in the game mechanics it'd certainly help to show a bit more.
To be fair this is mostly because I board game a lot and would really like to see a bit more on how this game really works.
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Never ever ever watch B movies for fun.
It will ruin your mind.
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2014/07/11 06:13:26
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Being a cheapskate and off from school for the summer, I hope that the pledge manager prices are still close to their KS equivalents. I know some went up last time it opened. Hopefully they don't go up too much tomorrow.
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2014/07/11 06:33:13
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I think the thing to focus on is the stuff that is either finished or in tooling, the 'danger' points are the stuff which is at the mould split or earlier stages which is where the really heavy work in terms of back and forth between Adam and the WGF folk which is where the unpredictable delays come from sad that he's not going to be able to work something out for the EU in terms of fulfilment, but he never said he would (only that he'd try which he's clearly done)
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2014/07/11 07:23:33
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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I'd kind of assumed that any delivery estimates we were given were going to be wrong anyway, so I can understand him wanting to not provide further estimates. At least we can now see where verything is at in the manufacturing stage... hopefully he will continue to repost that chart every few weeks.
I can't help but think with all these extra cards for skills and equipment that we will need a tablet app to help keep track of things
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2014/07/11 07:32:48
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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I'm really looking forward to seeing the final product though and if it's not a crazy price I may buy it. I'm very intrigued by this whole thing.
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2014/07/11 07:45:53
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated May 10th, pg28)
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Alpharius wrote:While that is good news, his reluctance/refusal to even estimate a ship date is not encouraging.
It could be worse. You could have invested in Wyrd's KS. That started at almost the same time, had far far fewer components to create, and is still uncertain as to when it will be released (though people are guessing GenCon after the general public gets it).
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2014/07/11 07:54:24
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Sneaky Lictor
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I waited 2 years, I think, for Red Box Games first Kickstarter. I'm not particularly bothered with the KD:M delays, even though I'm quite excited to get the game.
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2014/07/11 08:16:15
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Dakka Veteran
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I find it a bit ill-omened when someone first mentions that there will be a huge delay; all sales from the resin is put into the monster KS; that the retail version of the box will be at least $250; but hey, I'll reopen the pledge manager so you can get it for just $100!
Why would someone push for that the retail version (that may or may not hit retail for the next few years) will be $250 and then push for more to buy it at $100? Obviously it will flood ebay by people who wants to make a "good deal" when they know that the box will retail for three times as much. I rather get the sensation that Adam Poots are pushing for more money as he know that if he opens the pledge manager up again while saying that the retail box will be a HUGE price increase a lot of people will get in on it again; for themselves; for ebay; for family; for friends, etc.
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2014/07/11 08:24:56
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It won't be $100, from memory it was $150 last time the PM was open, and if the base cost has gone up again I wouldn't be surprised if this rises again this time
as to whether the PM should be re-opened? well the backers clearly want it to be whether it's because they couldn't get all they wanted 1st or 2nd time round, whether
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2014/07/11 13:08:39
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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I would be lying if I said that I wasn't bummed that there's yet another delay. It's awesome that he wants to give us the best product he can, but my excitement has pretty much vanished since I have no idea when I'll actually get the game, though I'm sure it will come back once it gets shipped.
I'm definitely eating my words on my prediction that we'd have this in August oh well. I suppose this gives me more time to paint my Dark Elves, Dark Eldar, and my fiancee's Tomb Kings before I have a mountain of KD miniatures. What I am now interested to see, is if the other two KS I've backed ( SDE and I'm going to break down on Zombicide shortly) will be fulfilled before this one.
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Kingdom Death Fanatic. Dark Eldar: Kabal of the Fragile Breath. Dark Elves: Allegiance to the Black Crown. Also, Masons, Cygnar, and Legion of Everblight. All unnamed.
Manchu wrote:The Fragile Breath wrote: . . . something but I was distracted by the username.
Holy gak that is an awesome username. Please tell me your army is called Kabal of the Fragile Breath. Morathi's Darkest Sin has some competition here for best handle, I think. |
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2014/07/11 17:47:06
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:It won't be $100, from memory it was $150 last time the PM was open, and if the base cost has gone up again I wouldn't be surprised if this rises again this time
as to whether the PM should be re-opened? well the backers clearly want it to be whether it's because they couldn't get all they wanted 1st or 2nd time round, whether
Thanks Orlando. That took a while...
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2014/07/11 19:26:10
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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So how do we access the pledge manager?
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2014/07/11 20:07:16
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The original PM was
https://kingdomdeath.com/address/login.php
The re-opened PM was
https://kingdomdeath.com/reopen/login.php
both are locked at present
so I suspect we may get another new address when it re-opens again
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2014/07/11 21:32:57
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Fixture of Dakka
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the new newsletter seems to say that PM won't open again until July 21st
Savior Encore!
We have found some time in the production que and have lined up an encore run of the two very popular saviors! Pre orders will be open until July 23rd. Thank you!
KD:M Pledge Manager Issues
Please write any of your pledge manager issues or unresolved to: support@kingdomdeath.zendesk.com
Be as descriptive as possible and make sure to include your pledge receipt# that was given to you when you confirmed your pledge.
Starting the week of July 21st we will have the time and resources to give everyone proper support. Please sit tight until then. Thank you in advance for your understanding and patience.
Change of Address
Once we begin fulfillment, we will require 1 final address confirmation from each backer. If you need to update your address you will have an opportunity then. Thanks!
Kingdom Death: Monster - Update #87
Just dropping a quick line to let people know the project has been updated!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/poots/kingdom-death-monster/posts/907871
Availability
To the people that missed their chance to join the kickstarter, thank you for joining our mailing list and I apologize, but the game and all of the kickstarted content will not be publicly available until after backer rewards have been fulfilled. The shift from PVC to hard plastic has greatly increased our unit costs and we need to properly evaluate before we can set final retail prices and begin taking pre-orders.
We will figure out a way to accommodate new fans, but for now our full attention is focused on meeting our current kickstarter promises. Thank you in advance for your understanding and patience. ~
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2014/07/11 22:38:01
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Aaand, that's a 40 year Savior preordered for me. Missed them the first time around, and I've yet to see the 40-year pop up on Ebay (see lots of the others, but not the 40).
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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2014/07/12 03:57:08
Subject: Re:Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Ordered one also.
As for the pledge manager, I'm assuming an email will be sent out at the very least when it's available again. Would hate to miss it.
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2014/07/12 04:20:01
Subject: Kingdom Death - News and Rumors Thread - (Updated OP July 10th)
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Weird. I just rushed to check the site in case I wanted to order it, but it went from the first run being super low quantity, to now no quantity listed and they'll sell as many as they can until he's basically back in town?
For example, particularly with the $70 King, these are pretty premium prices... it's just interesting that they're no longer limited based on quantity, but timeframe of ordering.
Also not supposed to ship until October.
Still, a main complaint before was their sweet models never being available, and I agree, that 40 years Savior is awesome. I was tempted just to get it for that reason alone, but I think I don't have any use for it... and for once apparently I can think about it for a week or so without it disappearing
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