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Oh FFS I was about to praise the new minis... then I saw space boob window. Jeez, guys...
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
You'll be needing coherent male sculpts for it fo actually feel like an integrated force. How about something like this:
Too tame, maybe? Guess it needs legs/arms protection, though.
The Zardoz Brutal Exterminators army already exist: its the Necromunda Goliath
Honestly, I think that's nitpicking, considering what else we happily accept without an issue.
Nor was there any issue with this:
despite of the fact they had ridiculous cumbersome shoulder pad & shin-guard while their vital organs were fully exposed.
Of course in this time Kjell Nilsson Mad Max II BDSM praphernalia was more fashionable.
Perhaps because it those time there was less Internet access, even less female wargamer and even lesser ready to defend their male counter part.
I wonder if a new Necromunda box featuring Goliath vs Slaanesh cultist would release we would find as many women revealing to be gay & body-builder defender as the Space Crusade(r) project reveals so many (male) gamers as feminist?
Personally I fully support Prodos as myself I already worked on a "Scarlet Blade" (MMORPG) Space Crusade mode that was looking like this:
Many of prodos miniatures are EXACTLY what I was searching to complete my game.
(actually I have allready ordered some and wait for the delivery)
If Prodos needs a non-GW franchise they choose contact Aeria Games that stops the MMORPG.
Scarlet Blade fluff (post-apo) is very coherent:
The girls are called Arkana because they protect the Arks (name of underground cryogenic complex where humanity is surviving).
They are cyborg, this means, Schwarzenegger T-500 they don't need clothes their additional "armor" is just an additional one for articulation (shoulder, knee, elbow) or part subject to worn-out (feets).
Their body parts (belly, head) are ALREADY bullet proof or don't content vital organ (*) by conception so chest/body armor is nothing but useless.
(*) no lungs, no digestive tube as they don't breath (no poison gaz hazard nor drowing) nor eat (except potion but it could be just oil, fuel additive or liquid with nanobots)
This would be a good explanation for the Space Crusader bare skin: they are cyborg not human.
Infinity player may also look at the "Bioroïds" in "Appleseed" manga/anime their game is inspired from.
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100mm tall spiky demon? Yeah, that's my kinda thing. The photo there looks kind of flat, but the 3d render has a lot of depth with the tail and cloak it has on.
Might have to fiddle with the limp looking left arm.
Hope the cast turns out decent.
Kind of tempted now to get the Belzeeba and paint her up like a Bloodthirster...
Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!
Hi Warzone
Have you sold enough product that you can afford to update the AvP backers on why there are still so many of us who have recieved absolutely nothing?
There’s a difference between having a hobby and being a narcissist.
Joyboozer wrote: Hi Warzone
Have you sold enough product that you can afford to update the AvP backers on why there are still so many of us who have recieved absolutely nothing?
Don't worry. Miniaturemarket has them in stock and at a discount. Plus their retail store has had multiple copies 5-6 on it's dinged and dented shelf for over a month now at 50% off and I snagged a set for 60% off. So at least someone is getting the goods .
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
highlord tamburlaine wrote: Kind of tempted now to get the Belzeeba and paint her up like a Bloodthirster...
The Skarbrand axes are almost a perfect match to replace her swords. Not sure why she has another Axe on her hip, but hey, axes for the axe god I guess.
highlord tamburlaine wrote: Kind of tempted now to get the Belzeeba and paint her up like a Bloodthirster...
The Skarbrand axes are almost a perfect match to replace her swords. Not sure why she has another Axe on her hip, but hey, axes for the axe god I guess.
I case she rolls that fumble on the chart where your weapon slides across the room and under the fridge, never to be seen again!
"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"
Well, as I don't see either a lot of Work In Progress on the basic Space Crusade box (event/equipment, card art work, floor-plan,..) I'm staring work on my own (private) Spacequest.
I will be simply using
- Heroquest boardgame
- Space Crusade dice (found some 2nd hand one)
- W40K mini (Orc->Ork, Chaos Warrior=>GW Chaos Marine or Prodos Maras, Skeleton=>Nekron,...)
- Space Hulk doors
- Heroquest missions
They will be relocated in Sci-Fi
For example "The Rescue of Sir Ragnar" will be renamed "The Rescue of Captain Roger" in memory of Space Quest X: Latex Babes of Estros
The heroes:
- Mage: psycher (keeping same HQ spell to start with)
- Elf: Eldar Scout or Banshee
- Barbarian: Catachan Guard, Necromunda Goliath or Prodos Space Crusader (painted "Red Sonja" style)
- Dwarf too bad I have no squat :( but Techmarine or Infinity Hacker would do disarm trap
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- Dwarf too bad I have no squat :( but Techmarine or Infinity Hacker would do disarm trap
Mantic Forge Fathers would work, wouldn't they?
Skarsol- have you done any more work on Belzeeba? I know you mentioned the casting being a difficult job to fix. My biggest worry with resin Prodos stuff is it suffering from weak ankles like some of the first larger Warzone Resurrection models or Blaine on his dino mount.
Is your demon girl stable at least?
Plus now that you mention it, I'm sure I have quite a few parts leftover from my Skarbrand kit. I probably could rig the lady into a good and proper Axe for the Axe God follower...
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Skarsol- have you done any more work on Belzeeba? I know you mentioned the casting being a difficult job to fix. My biggest worry with resin Prodos stuff is it suffering from weak ankles like some of the first larger Warzone Resurrection models or Blaine on his dino mount.
Is your demon girl stable at least?
Plus now that you mention it, I'm sure I have quite a few parts leftover from my Skarbrand kit. I probably could rig the lady into a good and proper Axe for the Axe God follower...
The large deamons are... large, and not skinny. There's no real chance of Belzeeba or Mamoona losing a limb. If you look at the pic I posted, the thinnest part of Belzeeba's leg is still like 1/4 thick. The resin has a little flex to it, so it's not brittle at all. On Belzeeba the part I'm most worried about breaking is the horns since they're so long and they taper in right before joining the head. I replaced them with pinned GW horns on one of them.
Barzam wrote: I haven't really been following since the initial posts and all of a sudden, people are wearing clothes and proper armor. Did Prodos redesign them based on feedback or something?
I also noticed that this is now being called "Space Crusaders" instead of "Space Crusade."
I have heard rumors of companies that respond to 'feedback' and conduct 'market research' but I always discounted them as these things
are otiose in a niche.
I know people love to make this joke, but as somebody who has worked in market research, it was quite clear from the language that Games Workshop wasn't conducting market research to try to find new market segments to sell to, and not that they weren't listening to feedback. The kind of market research they were talking about was irrelevant because they already knew who their customers were, in terms of typical age, gender, socioeconomic status, etc.
Marneus Calgar is referred to as "one of the Imperium's greatest tacticians" and he treats the Codex like it's the War Bible. If the Codex is garbage, then how bad is everyone else?
Forgive my terrible photo, but that there is Archon hanging out with Skulltaker on his base.
Pretty close in size, and that sword is huge. Casting was nice and crisp. Very impressive in terms of sized and presence. That huge cape is large enough to work as a battle standard for a monstrous infantry unit!
Unfortunately Prodos forgot to put the base in the box, or the thing's tail, so I'm kind of stuck waiting on parts before I can build it and really enjoy it.
Please don't take forever Prodos!
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Kriegspiel wrote: Who do you prefer to follow the red string cheerleader or the egg head supervisor?
Egghead. He is stupid enough not to wear an helmet on the battlefield, so it is probably a bad choice, but the other choice is… a death wish?
If she lives long enough to be a squad leader in that get up, she probably knows what she's doing. However, female marines are super heretical, so I'm going with generic bald guy.
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Kriegspiel wrote: Not a problem for her, she's got plenty of spare clones ready & waiting to respawn:
I am not going to comment on the idea to send all the clones to die a painful and obvious death one at a time instead of as a massive wave…
I found a review of the game though, but it is kind of NSFW (the game is, so the review too…) hence I am going to put it in spoilers.
Spoiler:
Basically it's light erotica mixed with the most basic MMO gameplay?
Which I always found was a terrible, terrible adaptation of the splendid arcoflagellant concept. It makes sense and is terribly grimdark to turn someone into a disposable living weapon, it just shows a massive disregard for human rights. It makes no freaking sense to make a perfectly fine giant robot of stompy, sawwy, flammy death obsolete by leaving the driver exposed.
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In Scarlet Blade MMORPG, the heroines (aka Arkanas) were cyborgs and their knowledge works the same way as the Cylons "Skinjobs can download their consciousness into another body when the body they are using dies" or in a "Resurrection Ship" in Battlestar Galactica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylon_%28reimagining%29#Reproduction
Knowing the cost of a full power armor, perhaps using "expendable clones" is a better economic choice when opposed to so many armor-piercing Nekron gun, or Genestealer claws.
Just like in WW2 for the USSR, the death of 100 costless conscripts was more affordable than the lost of a single expensive tank.
or for ISIS today who gets more easily midless fanatics (who join for free) than weapons to equip them.
Which I always found was a terrible, terrible adaptation of the splendid arcoflagellant concept. It makes sense and is terribly grimdark to turn someone into a disposable living weapon, it just shows a massive disregard for human rights. It makes no freaking sense to make a perfectly fine giant robot of stompy, sawwy, flammy death obsolete by leaving the driver exposed.
Isn't putting the penitent in obvious danger the whole point? Its like what the Soviets did to disgraced soldiers assigned to penal regiments in WW2; if they survived a combat injury or performed admirably in combat, they are forgiven. Considering how ramshackle the engine looks, I daresay the machine being incapacited is the least of the Imperium's worries.
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Kilkrazy wrote: Is this reasonably well related to the topic?
No, you are right Unless Probos comes in and tell us the marines are using clones.
Will now continue some of those discussions through PM.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
Kriegspiel wrote: In Scarlet Blade MMORPG, the heroines (aka Arkanas) were cyborgs and their knowledge works the same way as the Cylons "Skinjobs can download their consciousness into another body when the body they are using dies" or in a "Resurrection Ship" in Battlestar Galactica https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylon_%28reimagining%29#Reproduction
Knowing the cost of a full power armor, perhaps using "expendable clones" is a better economic choice when opposed to so many armor-piercing Nekron gun, or Genestealer claws.
Just like in WW2 for the USSR, the death of 100 costless conscripts was more affordable than the lost of a single expensive tank. or for ISIS today who gets more easily midless fanatics (who join for free) than weapons to equip them.
Expendable (bare skin) elite warrior (Legio Astartes) seems an oxymoron but as soon as the experience is preserve through death, the "body" became just a spare part just like a shoulder pad. The concept is old in Sci-fi, just look 2000 AD Rogue Trooper GIs (*)and their Dog Tags biochips who were just wearing some tank-tops while the other soldiers had chem-suits and sometimes even heavy armored ones http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/comics/2000adstrips/rogue/roguetrooper01.shtml GW Citadel even produced some of the minis! https://boardgamegeek.com/image/1717063/rogue-trooper
No, you are right Unless Probos comes in and tell us the marines are using clones.
Just like GW Space Marines are a mix of Frank Herbert's Dune Sardaukars & Lucas' Star Wars Clone/Stormtroopers
(Galactic Empire, Emperor elite, etc.)
Prodos Space Crusader seems to be a mix of GW/MB's 40K/Space Crusade SM & Aeria's Scarlet Blade Arkanas (bikini warrior concept)
Actually if SM are not clones like Clonetroopers or Arkanas, the progenoids glands
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Progenoid_Glands - make them being "partially" Primarchs clone
- at least the scouts less valuable than their equipment and the progenoids
Mixing a bare midriff Prodos Space Crusader with (classical) Space Crusade Marines is not very different than mixing scouts with Marines like in the Dark Templars squads...
Back to Prodos universe, look also the Madbs
http://shop.prodosgames.com/en/space-crusaders/238-mabs.html I think like rather than a woman in a Terminator Armor, It seems to be a machine possessing a woman body or displaying it, just like some Necrons wear human skin
Don't forget that Prodos has also the licence of Warzone / Mutant Chronicles
So we can supposed that some females suffered a transformation process similar to the one creating the Dark Symmetry Legionnaires where the (dead or alive) body is just a material like the others
The only difference with https://youtu.be/5Z8OMrWbKuQ?t=604 & https://youtu.be/5Z8OMrWbKuQ?t=4385 is that there are more mechanical parts
When you look at
You see that the 4 tiles making the (modular?) board will feature a "lost temple" and a "forgotten city" I hope they are set on Nero 10th planet...
At least the Mabs skin color is similar to the Nero's witches
What's the advantage of showing a topless "living female torso"? That the perverted secrets of the pervert designer (I speak about Dark Apostles not Prodos Staff)
Perhaps the body is just used as a pheromone generator (explaining the need of removing the clothes and fully exposing it), the brain as a psy converter to target better the human soldier?
The lack of protection on the body maybe a technical choice for the machine to ease its replacement when capturing a new one when the 1st one starts to root.
Isn't putting the penitent in obvious danger the whole point? Its like what the Soviets did to disgraced soldiers assigned to penal regiments in WW2; if they survived a combat injury or performed admirably in combat, they are forgiven.
Your peerfectly right: GW penitence engine could be given same explanation: when, in game term, the unit is destroyed, actually only the penitent is dead, the machine itself is most of the time still operational, just waiting another convicted to be put in place by a techno-priest or confessor.
Living the body exposed has finally (from the Imperium grim & dark priest) several advantages:
- better showing it, much scaring potential traitor/heretic/deserter
- easily removing the dead body after the punishment
- quickly replacing it for next battle during a 40 tournament
- having the victim suffering from heat, cold,...
- showing Dark Eldars that Imperium can do as cruel as the old Talos
- killing the victim if he or she turns again his camp without damaging the engine
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I have to say, I really like both the Fully-Armored and the Bikini-armor versions. There's currently not that many good looking "Bikini Space Armor", I'm glad they are producing both versions.
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"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill
Kriegspiel wrote: Mixing a bare midriff Prodos Space Crusader with (classical) Space Crusade Marines is not very different than mixing scouts with Marines like in the Dark Templars squads...
It really is. One is mixing lighter armor with heavier armor. The other one is mixing space marines with something entirely different that don't even feel like it's part of the same universe. If you want to do it, all power too you though.
But I can see why some FLGS would ask you not to use those models…
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
in case you use the Crusaders in Alien vs Predator
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