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First the B@C box.... Now you're playing 30k... Should be expect some resin soon??

The list definately has a 30k feel to it. Lots of marines. Good luck!

 Zambro wrote:
First the B@C box.... Now you're playing 30k... Should be expect some resin soon??

The list definately has a 30k feel to it. Lots of marines. Good luck!

The budget is not there for FW stuff, so don’t expect to see any resin. The closest I’m likely to come is to put together some 40k kits to represent 30k units. And even that’s not going to happen any time soon.

Although once I get to striping some of the old RTB01 guys, we might see a legion heavy support squad with all MLs. There is also the off chance that instead of building the last 10 Mk IV guys from my BaC box as a tac squad, I might do something odd with them. I’d need to look at what I could build with the parts I have on hand or could easily trade for.

Game was fun. I kept forgetting a lot of details. Mostly the fact that I had things like artificer armor on sergeants. We actually had very similar lists. Big HQ with a paragon blade backed up by a command squad in a LR (even matching apothocaries) Pride of the Legion, so two vet tacs in rhinos. He had two dreads, a quad mortar, and a sniper squad. I had a pred, named dread, and a wad of assault marines with a chaplain.
Here’s deployment. Rolled up purge, so killpoint primary.

Just of the right is my LR, dread, and second rhino.

He goes first, and gets a lucky immobilize on my dread, and glaces a HP of my rhino on that side. The quad mortar starts blowing chunks out of my assault squad. That thing is nasty.
On my turn my LR imobilizes itself trying to get over the wall it was behind. So I’ve got a quarter of my army static in the corner. Wonderful. My rhinos move out, trying to provide some cover for the AMs.

Most of the troops end up killing each other in the middle. I popped his LR with a LC shot from my immobilized one, and it looked like a showdown was imminent. But as my praetor finished polishing off the last of one of his tac sqauds (helped by the AM sarge, the last member of his squad) I did a quick kill tally, noting that it was turn 5. I used my consolidation move to fall back, breaking away from the final fight.

Just like an Ultramarine to cooly evaluate the battle, and break off, rather then go for personal glory. After all, all the prides of both legions had already taken heavy casualties. Victory for the XIIIth, 5-7. He had killed both my vet tac squads, my chaplain, and one rhino. I also killed both his vet tacs, one rhino, one dread, and had first blood and linebreaker.

Things to note:
Quad mortars are nasty.
I need to remember the wargear I bought. Artificer armor in odd places, not used to so many 2+s.
I wish my 40k preds had 4 shots ACs
Should have risked the DS with the AMs. They were brutal in CC, but getting across the table was rough. This should not have been news.
I was light on AV. Honestly wasn’t expecting so much armor. And there could have been more.
The basic gear on 30k guys is quite nice. BP and CCW were everywhere. Might have just been the vet heavy force. Not used to it.
Make sure the table is a little more balanced. There was more or less a wall of difficult ground across my side of the table. Nice for cover, bad for axles.

I uhh, can't really tell you a dang thing about how good things are in any 30/40/k scenario. What I can tell you though, is that your force looks cool as heck. You've got a big smashy land raider, a fancypants contemptor dreadnought, looks like some jump dudes which are always fun, a predator which is a neat tank whether it's good or not, and some other boots on the ground.

Everything has it's own vehicle or can fly around (or is a walker) and it will present as a very compact force until things have deployed. I think it looks like a blast to play, I just hope aesthetics == effectiveness for your sake!

Do let us know, I'll be eagerly awaiting the results of a cool looking force of marines.



Ahh cool, instant gratification

Sounds like a fun game. So... I got confused as to which army held that name, did you say you won by 2 points? Sounds like a pretty neat battle, does 30k skip some of the sillier things like Knights and crazy formations or are they in there too?

Yah, I won. Ultramarines are the 13th legion, and 30k is about the marines before the legions before they were broken up into chapters.

30k has both less and more silly things. No formations, so everything is basically just the rules on the page, and all armies are put together with the same structure. But as it’s back in the golden days of the empire, there are a lot more mega tanks and walking gods kicking around. But more even access to things, as everyone is playing factions of the civil war. So no alien death walkers, just imperial knights and titans.

Also in the news, I swapped some bits with my opponent, so have another HF and a couple of grav guns (plus a combi-grav) to work with. He also wanted to buy my sniper scout sprue off me, so I got some cash for them. I would have turned around and bought a normal scout box, but there were none on the shelf. But a little extra hobby cash for the next project. Whatever that is.

It felt good to be pushing plastic around again. This was my first game in months. As someone who enjoys both the painting and the gaming side of the hobby, it was starting to get lonely in the basement

Well done on the win! You definately had the pride of the legion out in force!

We now return you to our regularly scheduled 40k xenos:

(helmets are still a little wet)

They may be ugly, but at least they are done. I never glued the seer or the autarch onto their bikes, so I have 3 of the old school bikes painted at this point. And now 5 riders: 3 basic and the two characters. I also have the new seer on his bike that I recently finished, so in theory I could field an allied detachment with one seer, one 3 man bike squad, and some other random thing. Like my Crimson Hunter. Eldar are slowly growing! Feels good to get some of the basic troops out of the way. I like the concept of jetbikes, but the practically of painting them is a little rough.

No sure what I should start work on next. The BaC WB chaplain is going to get paint as a UM captain, that’s the one definite thing on the list. But I feel like I should have something else going on in the background. Either Eldar, some random thing from the back of the bench, or start plugging away at a vehicle. Thoughts?

Nice work then, glad to see fellow gamers getting out and playing.

Vehicle. Good for the soul.

Vehicle it is! My Vindi has been calling to me anyway. I could always use more armor on the table. I’ll start putting some layers down on it.

(The Land Speeder I’ve got waiting is also calling to me, but it’s not nearly as loud as the vindi...)

Weather is getting to that spotty time of year. I might have been able to prime yesterday, but wasn’t in the mood. Back to cold and windy today. But sometime in the near-ish future I’ll get to break out the rattle can again. I should probably build something.

Vindi is a good shout! Looking forward to it

Two coats of blue down on the vindi, and the backs based. Chugging along. Would be faster, but I started playing Fallout: New Vegas, and that kinda hoovered a lot of my free time. Got the first coat of blue down in the BaC PA captain, He’s going to be my entry for the monthly competition. I should work more on him.

Next step on the vindi is to drybrush the blacks with silver, and pick out the lenses/skulls/details on the tank. Bit more here then normal. Not just because the vindi has more going on then a normal rhino chassis, but I actually glued the smoke launcher/searchlight on. Normally I build those separately, with a “I’ll do these once I’m done” mindset. You’ll note how many of my tanks actually have them on. Hint: not many.

Hope everyone has a good weekend!

And a good weekend to you as well. If you're getting sucked into fallout, be sure to avoid all things 'This is Not a Test', I find fallout is a high risk factor for being interested in that game

Yay! The vindicator is getting some love! No blue on the shield? Are you doing hazard stripes or some freehand?

GrimDork wrote:And a good weekend to you as well. If you're getting sucked into fallout, be sure to avoid all things 'This is Not a Test', I find fallout is a high risk factor for being interested in that game

It’s OK to get hooked on old computer games I pick up on steam for a couple bucks. But I’m not starting any new table-top games unless my frequent local group gets hooked. And with one exception, they are all primarily P&P RPGers. I read about a lot of cool fun games here, but it’s just not worth the investment for me. I can’t make it up to the FLGS often enough for campaign style games, and I have enough unplayed things on the shelf already. I just live vicariously via other people’s blogs.

Zambro wrote:Yay! The vindicator is getting some love! No blue on the shield? Are you doing hazard stripes or some freehand?

I’m focusing on the main tank ATM. Haven’t touched the driver, alternate vent hatch, or the shield. I probably should do something for the big old plow there. I’m still undecided as to if I should do it mostly blue, or more black/metal. And it is to large just to leave plain. If I go with my gunmetal black, I’ll do hazard stripes. If I go blue, it will probably get a large Ultra symbol. Not sure if I have a decal large enough, so might have to freehand something.

So I kinda got a game in yesterday. Another game of 30k, same guy as last week. 2,500 points this time.

First time playing maelstrom, it was the escalation version where every turn you get more cards.

We schedule to start at 4, but he’s running a little late (just got out of work, needed to toss a list together). The thing we don’t realize is that the FLGS closes at 6 on Saturdays. Which kinda blew both our minds. The owner had to do some paperwork, and let us stick around a bit later, but we still only got 2 turns in. Technically a win for me. I had scored 2 cards (Obj 3, and psychic power) to his one (he issued a challenge). I also had first blood.

It was nice to get out of the house and push a little plastic around, but the early buzzer sucked a lot of the joy out of the day.

Anyway, on to some painting:

Got the drybrushing done. Next step is a cleanup pass with the blue. So far I’ve just done the blues with a big tank brush, so there is a lot of nooks and crannies that need some color. Plus around all the other work I’ve sloppily done. But chugging away well.

The more I think about it, the more working up a second company seems crazy. I think I’m going to reallocate those bodies to 30k squads. This raises some questions. I’ve still got 10 BaC bodies on sprue. Should I do another vet tac squad? Honestly I think that job could be better filled with old RTB01 beakies. I think I should be working up some characters and more specialized units. What ones are worth it is a big question? I think a apothecary might be high on the list, possibly some of the other consuls. I think I might cull a squad or two worth of guys from my old BA force. While they do represent a bit of my history, all they do is collect dust. I will reserve enough of them to use as WBs if I ever want to play BaC as an actual boardgame.

Bummer that your game got cut off early, frustrating. I think early Sunday.close is fairly common but still a bummer.

 GrimDork wrote:
Bummer that your game got cut off early, frustrating. I think early Sunday.close is fairly common but still a bummer.

Early Sunday I could understand. This was on Saturday! What kind of self respecting game store closes early on a Saturday? <grumble, grumble>

Oh.. crap you *did* say saturday, nah those places are usually open till 9 at least, sometimes friday night magic courts midnight I think.

Eesh, now I can really see the frustration, I blame sleep deprivation for the slip.

It’s been a productive few days.



Vindi’s hull is pretty much done, got the tracks on and touched up. Working on the diver next, he’s pretty much basecoated at this point.


As is my entry for the month’s painting comp.


I think I’m OK stripping some of my old stuff. There is a lot of nostalgia wrapped up with the Blood Angels, but they’ve been collecting dust for decades. I think I last used them to demo 2nd edition when a local game store was trying to get into 40k in the mid 90s. I’m leaving 2 tac squads and a number of characters on the shelf, plus the dread and terminators. I figure I can use them as stand-ins for Word Bearers if I actually want to play BaC as a boardgame.

Looking at 30k options for them.

I should be able to make 19 bolter marines. This plus a sarge would make a nice legion tactical squad
I have enough flamers for a support squad, but I’m not sure it’s worth it to actually field.
I have 4 old school MLs. Plus a few more homemade ones.
The two guys with HBs can work in vet. tac. squads, but the other heavy weapons don’t really have a place. They could swap out in 40k tac squads.
The old metals can find a spot somewhere.
I might take the old assault marines and give them a camo paintjob, and use them as a recon squad. Not sure at this point what to do with them.

And I still have 10 BaC Mk. IVs I can do up for 30k stuff. I think some of them are getting earmarked for heresy era command types. The Ultramarine chapter specific Rite of War requires either a command rhino or a master of signals. I can build one (or both actually). There is a BA comms guy I did way back when who might pony up some parts. I think an apothecary/Primus Medicae is also in the works. I might just build the rest of the heavy weapons. That should give me enough HBs to field as a HS squad, and add more MLs to bolster the one I have. Still thinking.

But the weather is getting nice, so I should be able to prime and paint what I build soon.


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For some, Spring starts with the first sighting of a robin. Others rely on a groundhog to tell them when it begins. Some look to the stars or the phase of the moon.

I go by the rattle can.

(OK, that’s a slight exaggeration. It’s not really Spring until I grill something.)

The stalker/hunter is on the list of things to do now. As well as the “I-can’t-believe-they're-not-Night-Lords” terminators. Plus a plasma pistol and backpack. Just a small pile, but the day was nice and I didn’t want to waste it. Weather, which is just as fickle as my scatter die, should not be squandered.

With the thoughts of 30k and what to build rattleing around, I’m looking at that stalker a little differently. Originally I was just planning on glueing the guns on top. I had just left them off to help paint. Now I’m thinking if I magnetize them, I could build some antenna arrays to swap out to make for a command rhino.


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Every now and then I go through my blog and look for project I’ve talked about, but never did. Or who’s been waiting the longest for paint. Stuff like that. Way back in my second post here, I talked about my plans. I’ve come a long way to getting most of it done. But there are a number of things that got sidetracked and forgotten. I’m going to try to fix one of those. While not much of a terrain junky, I give it some thought occasionally. I follow the League of Extraordinary Riveters and their competitions, and have considered entering once or twice (but never did). But when the topic for the next contest is “The Portal” I’m taking that as a sign to get moving on one of the old projects from the start of this blog.

To quote myself from 3-ish years ago:

I just had a lightbulb moment. A few years ago my brother-in-law gave me a weird light up decoration thing called a Lumindisk. Desk art kinda stuff. As I have enough clutter as it is, It got tucked in a corner and forgotten about. Until today.

The webway portal is now open.



It is made to hang on a wall, so conveniently sits flat if you lie it on its back. The top of the disk will be 3" off the table, and measures 6" across. Works on either batteries or an AC adapter. I could probably mod the case to make it lower to the ground, but if I want a count-as skyshield, those things are pretty high up. Might need to hack it a bit anyway to move the switch to somewhere more convenient for play. Or just do something else to show the open/closed position of the portal and leave it on all game.

This could be fun...

Let’s see if I can do this. You might have noticed in the background of the prime picture my foam cutter I found in the garage. No idea if it works. We’ll see!

Just a note I copied a while ago to the stickies app on my laptop on the dimensions of the skyshield. It’s going to be my rough goal on size:

Skyshield:

Landing pad is an irregular** octagon (the corner sides are shorter than the main sides).
It's 298mm across the main platform - add 90mm for the folding bits extended or 12mm when folded up.
The side lengths are 156mm (long sides) and 99mm (short corners).
Measurement centre to long edge is 149mm and 160mm to short edges.
Height: 85mm bottom of supports to top of platform. 130mm with sides folded up.

More Edit: Just stashing this here for reference

Good luck on the portal. I may or may not enter myself.

The light is about 3” tall, and 6” across. The hight is about where it should be for a skyshield, but the total footprint needs to be about a foot square. I figure a stepped down hill should work. In the mockup pic, the top section of the hill will be wraithbone, where the lower ones will be flocked grassy hills. I’d like to have a footpath leading up to the portal, and the rim around the portal itself will probably have steps carved so people on foot can step onto the pad. I’d like to have some sort of control console, either on the side of the portal itself, or nearby. Overall, I want it to be disused and overgrown. I’m going to try to get some vines creeping up the side, and a bird’s nest tucked away somewhere. Bonus points are going to be handed out for the inclusion of eggs, due to the comp being over Easter. I’m not sure how I’m going to be able to integrate either rivets or sprue, both are which encouraged.

Looks like a really interesting start. Stupid question, is the portal going to be centered horizontally into the hill like you'd jump into it as a pool of water, or the more traditional stargate style portal?

I will watch with interest, if I do anything for the comp it will probably be an underground shelter entrance with a nod to fallout, and that means I can nick ideas for the hill design by watching closely

It’s going to be a flat pad. So you step on it, activate, and then step off somewhere else. While the stargate walk into it thing would be cool, matching the aesthetics and the hardware would not be possible. The only way I’d be able to make that happen would be to set the light into the side of a cliff, or thick building. Which would be cool, but I’m trying to make the classic webway gate, which is tall and thin.

So more like a Star Trek transporter pad, yeah that's what I was thinking of mounting wise, just a different (probably more sensible) execution of the actual teleportation.

Enlarged and printed out a template. Laid it over the foam and traced it with a firm hand in pencil, to indent the foam. That part worked OK. The carving, not so much.

I’m not sure if I need new batteries in the cutter, or didn’t let it warm up enough, or what. But it did more of a jagged tear then the smooth carve I was expecting. I tried to score and snap, but that didn’t work as well as I’d like. I suspect I might need to use something more then the #11 exacto blade here. Oh well, I knew there was going to be a bit of a learning curve here.

Some paint:

Both these guys got a little more work. Notably a clean up pass on the blue. Normally I wait until the last for that, but I was putting one on the driver, so just did the captain as well. He still needs a lot of wash and detail. I think I’m going to gold up a few more things as well. I missed his elbow pads earlier, and the trim on his breast/groin plate.

Hope everyone has a nice weekend.

I really like the dual tone on the command frill. Webway gate looks very exciting, it's something you do not see everyday. I like the idea.

I seem to recall one of your yearly goals (for the past few years, actually) being to build a gaming table/terrain... Looks like your taking some steps towards that! Good luck!

Painting minis and building terrain are 2 different skill sets. The learning curve is to be expected. Dont let it deter you!

Spacewolverine wrote:I really like the dual tone on the command frill. Webway gate looks very exciting, it's something you do not see everyday. I like the idea.

I almost did a different pattern, but decided to stick with the red/white/red. This should be the 4th crest I’ve done, one was pure red, all the others match. The webway is very much a trip into new territory. Hopefully it comes together.

Zambro wrote:I seem to recall one of your yearly goals (for the past few years, actually) being to build a gaming table/terrain... Looks like your taking some steps towards that! Good luck!

Painting minis and building terrain are 2 different skill sets. The learning curve is to be expected. Dont let it deter you!

Yah, the webway gate has been on my to-do list for as long as I’ve had this blog. At the very least I can put a “I tried” next to it when doing my yearly review.



Speaking of which, some experimenting with foam. Need to work on skills to get neat cuts, and work on the smoothing/shaping part. I’ve got plenty of raw materials, so am more-or-less just hacking away with various techniques and tools to see how things work.

Also in the news, I put the wash down on the vindi driver. Once that drys, I’ll assemble him and do the touch up pass.

Its getting there!!