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Posted By beef on 11/19/2006 12:55 AM
not my 1500pt list you wont, it just has 2 titans and a Wolf lord who pops out when one of the titans is destroyed.

 

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I have invested in some more Titans so Now I will use 2 reavers and 2 warhounds and a baneblade so each time one dies a SW HQ will jump out and get some hand to hand action, (not on himself you dirty buggers)



[quote name='ArmouredWing' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:38 PM' post='1551280']
[quote name='Beef' post='1551252' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:10 PM']You said it, we dont control the rules so we should stop trying to control the tournaments. Let the person with the most abusive list win. If you dont like it take the same list as him/her. Tournamenst should apeal to hardcore gamers and non hardcore gamers alike I agree but the ones who are not hardcore should not cry about it when they get thrashed. Its like saying everybody should be able to play in the NFL. Fine but when you get people who are crap and they get a leg broken they should not moan about it. If you play against the hard core you should except the fact you might lose.

Beef I've got to applaud you on this statement, it brought a smile to my face and it's actually won me around to your way of thinking. Tournaments are there to be won, plain and simple and as you say, if you play with the big boys then you've gotta be prepared for the consequences.

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Just tossing in my $.02...

I LOVE 'Counts As' armies, I have seen some really cool ones. All Kroot Tau army (done up in FCW gear for FCW and Kroot heads in place of crisis suit heads was one of the best, great fluff behind it too)

As for WYSIWYG, as long as things are explained fully and clearly in the beginning of the game, and when deploying, and when I ask "what was that again" it is all good by me. I am just out to play a good game and would rather play a good opponent with a non WYSIWYG army than a poor opponent with an all WYSIWYG army.

Drano doesn't exactly scream "toy" to me.

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Well said. It about good opponents and fun.



[quote name='ArmouredWing' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:38 PM' post='1551280']
[quote name='Beef' post='1551252' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:10 PM']You said it, we dont control the rules so we should stop trying to control the tournaments. Let the person with the most abusive list win. If you dont like it take the same list as him/her. Tournamenst should apeal to hardcore gamers and non hardcore gamers alike I agree but the ones who are not hardcore should not cry about it when they get thrashed. Its like saying everybody should be able to play in the NFL. Fine but when you get people who are crap and they get a leg broken they should not moan about it. If you play against the hard core you should except the fact you might lose.

Beef I've got to applaud you on this statement, it brought a smile to my face and it's actually won me around to your way of thinking. Tournaments are there to be won, plain and simple and as you say, if you play with the big boys then you've gotta be prepared for the consequences.

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I think I want to do an army of all Fairies (like you know, colorful with wings and all sparkly) and play them "counts as" marines

Drano doesn't exactly scream "toy" to me.

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knock yourself out mate



[quote name='ArmouredWing' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:38 PM' post='1551280']
[quote name='Beef' post='1551252' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:10 PM']You said it, we dont control the rules so we should stop trying to control the tournaments. Let the person with the most abusive list win. If you dont like it take the same list as him/her. Tournamenst should apeal to hardcore gamers and non hardcore gamers alike I agree but the ones who are not hardcore should not cry about it when they get thrashed. Its like saying everybody should be able to play in the NFL. Fine but when you get people who are crap and they get a leg broken they should not moan about it. If you play against the hard core you should except the fact you might lose.

Beef I've got to applaud you on this statement, it brought a smile to my face and it's actually won me around to your way of thinking. Tournaments are there to be won, plain and simple and as you say, if you play with the big boys then you've gotta be prepared for the consequences.

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Posted By happypants on 11/24/2006 1:47 PM
I think I want to do an army of all Fairies (like you know, colorful with wings and all sparkly) and play them "counts as" marines
I wholeheartedly support this endeavor and doubly so if you pledge to talk and act like a Fairy while playing with 'em. They'd be a great Tzeench army too.

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if you act and talk like a fairy would that not be more of a slaanesh army?



[quote name='ArmouredWing' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:38 PM' post='1551280']
[quote name='Beef' post='1551252' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:10 PM']You said it, we dont control the rules so we should stop trying to control the tournaments. Let the person with the most abusive list win. If you dont like it take the same list as him/her. Tournamenst should apeal to hardcore gamers and non hardcore gamers alike I agree but the ones who are not hardcore should not cry about it when they get thrashed. Its like saying everybody should be able to play in the NFL. Fine but when you get people who are crap and they get a leg broken they should not moan about it. If you play against the hard core you should except the fact you might lose.

Beef I've got to applaud you on this statement, it brought a smile to my face and it's actually won me around to your way of thinking. Tournaments are there to be won, plain and simple and as you say, if you play with the big boys then you've gotta be prepared for the consequences.

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The colours man.

I have nothing useful to add.
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Wasn't Hardcoil (?) working on a total 'counts as' anime-style army using the Chaos rules? Jin-roh like marines, lithe ballet chicks in giant power armor as terminators, etc.? I remember that from, like, Imperial Dakka, before the dark times...

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Posted By syr8766 on 11/25/2006 10:26 AM
Wasn't Hardcoil (?) working on a total 'counts as' anime-style army using the Chaos rules? Jin-roh like marines, lithe ballet chicks in giant power armor as terminators, etc.? I remember that from, like, Imperial Dakka, before the dark times...

More like spec-ops marines with custom cast fire-arms, green stuff splinter-cell goggles, ammo packs and such. He really liked the concept but when he got reading the rules, Slaanesh was the closest that could approximate what he wanted to do and when he started playing, the basic game mechainics completely turned him away from GW games. I don't blame him...

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Posted By nyarlathotep667 on 11/24/2006 4:51 PM
They'd be a great Tzeench army too.

Great Tzeentch army, hmm?  Tzeentch not make army great...

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Posted By Abadabadoobaddon on 11/28/2006 2:40 PM
Posted By nyarlathotep667 on 11/24/2006 4:51 PM
They'd be a great Tzeench army too.

Great Tzeentch army, hmm?  Tzeentch not make army great...

Ah, aesthetically speaking then. The Tzsuck of Tzeench is indeed "strong" ruleswise (but an army with two wound troops has a lot going for it, rite? RITE?!?!?)

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Oh you! Did you guys see what nyarly did there? Did you?

See, that's that quote from that one guy who said that one time. He was wrong though.
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you lost me.



[quote name='ArmouredWing' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:38 PM' post='1551280']
[quote name='Beef' post='1551252' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:10 PM']You said it, we dont control the rules so we should stop trying to control the tournaments. Let the person with the most abusive list win. If you dont like it take the same list as him/her. Tournamenst should apeal to hardcore gamers and non hardcore gamers alike I agree but the ones who are not hardcore should not cry about it when they get thrashed. Its like saying everybody should be able to play in the NFL. Fine but when you get people who are crap and they get a leg broken they should not moan about it. If you play against the hard core you should except the fact you might lose.

Beef I've got to applaud you on this statement, it brought a smile to my face and it's actually won me around to your way of thinking. Tournaments are there to be won, plain and simple and as you say, if you play with the big boys then you've gotta be prepared for the consequences.

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You lost me at hello. And I think this thread is starting to lose all context. Once we get to page 12 in a thread I feel it is my duty to hijack the thread into new and interesting places.

So, I say we just start over from here:

Rules Vs Aesthetics - The title bout of the Century! (this time it's personal!)

In a straight up match, I say Aesthetics will beat Rules in 4 rounds or less. Aesthetics has more going for it. It's got the style, the experience, and the crowd loves it. Now, in a no holds barred street fight or Iron man match I gotta tip my hat to Rules. It'll be a hard fight, but Rules is a totally different kind of fighter. Rules will set you up and get you into a rhythm and just when you think you got it pegged for a jab BANG! FAQ right in the face.

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do you realize, barring survivor threads, that this is one of the longest threads out of 44 current pages of the newest dakka's incarnation, if not THE longest?

I should provoke people more often!
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shhh dont say that to loudly before the MOD lock it, Back to the topic at hand, Its a hooby so it should be pleasing to the eye as its your army. Its only when you play with others do the rules come into it. but by yourself its ok/ Its like some of you may be sitting typing on the comp in your dirty underwear only which is fine if you are that way inclined. If thats aestheticaly pleasing to you than cool. Just dont step out the house like that. Its against the rules unless you live in a commune for the special people/perverts



[quote name='ArmouredWing' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:38 PM' post='1551280']
[quote name='Beef' post='1551252' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:10 PM']You said it, we dont control the rules so we should stop trying to control the tournaments. Let the person with the most abusive list win. If you dont like it take the same list as him/her. Tournamenst should apeal to hardcore gamers and non hardcore gamers alike I agree but the ones who are not hardcore should not cry about it when they get thrashed. Its like saying everybody should be able to play in the NFL. Fine but when you get people who are crap and they get a leg broken they should not moan about it. If you play against the hard core you should except the fact you might lose.

Beef I've got to applaud you on this statement, it brought a smile to my face and it's actually won me around to your way of thinking. Tournaments are there to be won, plain and simple and as you say, if you play with the big boys then you've gotta be prepared for the consequences.

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Posted By Green Angel on 11/29/2006 10:48 PM

 

 

Your Welcome



Who's welcome?

Hellfury's welcome? I missed it. Was it a good one?

Glaive's welcome? I thought he usually didn't welcome people. Was it polite?

 

What's this thread about?

12 pages?!?!? Badump ching!

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I have seen some really nice painted armies that dont look anything like they are supposed to for exampl at a tournie I saw an eldar armie that had giant eagles with starcannons and bright lances on there backs representing vypers. they were painted and coverted really well so I had no problem with it.

The sword is a weapon for killing . . .
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Sound cool. I would liked to have played that army. But more than that I would like to play againsyt a monster nid army with hello kitty nids. It might take away my feer of Nids. I have never won against Nids EVER, So I try to play against them NEVER/



[quote name='ArmouredWing' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:38 PM' post='1551280']
[quote name='Beef' post='1551252' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:10 PM']You said it, we dont control the rules so we should stop trying to control the tournaments. Let the person with the most abusive list win. If you dont like it take the same list as him/her. Tournamenst should apeal to hardcore gamers and non hardcore gamers alike I agree but the ones who are not hardcore should not cry about it when they get thrashed. Its like saying everybody should be able to play in the NFL. Fine but when you get people who are crap and they get a leg broken they should not moan about it. If you play against the hard core you should except the fact you might lose.

Beef I've got to applaud you on this statement, it brought a smile to my face and it's actually won me around to your way of thinking. Tournaments are there to be won, plain and simple and as you say, if you play with the big boys then you've gotta be prepared for the consequences.

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Dont trust Beef.

He plays blood angels. 'Nuff said.

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I'm sorry, this thread is far too silly. We'll have to move on to something much more sensible...


















































and in before lock...

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syr8766 there's something wrong with your link. It won't come up on my computer screen. Heh, all I know is I love page 13! Wooohoo! It's time to hijack this thread and take it to Mexico baby! And you know the best part!? There ain't nothing anyone can do about it! Ha! I'm the king of...

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Links? We don't need no stinkin' links!

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Qualifications?

Stampeding Cattle.

That's not much of a crime.

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Kinky.

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cant see a link, An here was me trying to keep the thread going by being sensible. To hell with that then, @HELLfury I play SPace wolves mainly hence my avater and my own abundence of facial hair.

When some people Smoke they look so good,

 

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[quote name='ArmouredWing' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:38 PM' post='1551280']
[quote name='Beef' post='1551252' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:10 PM']You said it, we dont control the rules so we should stop trying to control the tournaments. Let the person with the most abusive list win. If you dont like it take the same list as him/her. Tournamenst should apeal to hardcore gamers and non hardcore gamers alike I agree but the ones who are not hardcore should not cry about it when they get thrashed. Its like saying everybody should be able to play in the NFL. Fine but when you get people who are crap and they get a leg broken they should not moan about it. If you play against the hard core you should except the fact you might lose.

Beef I've got to applaud you on this statement, it brought a smile to my face and it's actually won me around to your way of thinking. Tournaments are there to be won, plain and simple and as you say, if you play with the big boys then you've gotta be prepared for the consequences.

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