Army books=$35 Each - MK2 RELEASE DATES & PICS [UPDATED: Khador Jacks]

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**ShumaGorath**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:If we don't have Tau, we can make fun of the tiny ankles all we want. It's just wierdly disproportinal.

How do space marine dreadnoughts stand up?

They have big, articulated feet.

I'm OK with Dreads.

And ankles smaller than the marines they serve with.

**JohnHwangDD**

Sidstyler wrote:Nevermind how they stand, how do SM dreads walk...

If you've seen the CG animations, far better than one might otherwise expect...

**malfred**

Kanluwen wrote:
malfred wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Wayfarer wrote:Yeah considering that these plastic kits are a type of plastic that has just as much detail as metal, and the kits have more parts I'd say $5 more is very reasonable.

Oh christ, it's that same plastic the Starship Troopers models used, isn't it?

EURGH. I HATE that crap. It requires so much more work and doesn't accept primer as readily as any other models I've worked on, from Tamiya to GW.

The models I've painted so far have taken primer okay... Maybe I'm doing it wrong?

Or maybe it's just the same plastic as GW. I dunno. Not really willing to drop money just to experiment and get that godforsaken plastic.

I swear, it's like kryptonite for me. Kryptonite that results in hours of swearing.

It's not the same as GW plastic as you can't use the plastic polystyrene glue on it.

**Kanluwen**

Eurgh. Hate that stuff then

**skrulnik**

My impression is that the material is closer to a resin than a polystyrene plastic.

I am willing to bet it isn't cast with steel molds. You can't get the details these show that way.

So it has great detail, a little flexibility, and you need to use superglue.

The price is acceptable due to the bonus parts given.
They price it where they do expecting players to magnetize. but you still may want 2-3 bodies.

I am waiting for the pricing on man-sized plastic units.
The 10-man Fennblades, approx. Termie size, are $50. *subject to change it says on their site.

**RogueMarket**

All I got to say is ... these multi - kits are revolutionary in some little way or another for PP.

I dont think I've seen this much .. talk of the talk about PP rumour before haha.

So has PP done something good?!

Purely subjective to each and everyone's own oppinion.

I just perosnally thing its something cool overall!

**LunaHound**

@ page 4:

To be fair the thickness of the saw doesnt make it less realistic or less detailed.

Sure its not a jewelry saw , but thats not what it is ,
compare it with those giant tree saws .

**Sidstyler**

I know one thing, I'm interested in seeing what their forums look like...how many people are pissed off at the move to plastic and eventual transformation into GW, whom they hate so much.

It's their own fault, though.

**Platuan4th**

Sidstyler wrote:I know one thing, I'm interested in seeing what their forums look like...how many people are pissed off at the move to plastic and eventual transformation into GW, whom they hate so much.

It's their own fault, though.

Being rather regular on their forums, I haven't seen any pissyness really. Most people there are eagerly anticipating these plastics. It's not like PP didn't tell us well ahead of time when they originally announced the Exemplar Bastions. There isn't the all consuming hate for plastics and GW that PP Haters think there is.

**malfred**

Anyone who was angry about it is already gone by this point. Everyone on the
forums for the most part waits for every new post or scrap of information.

**ShumaGorath**

LunaHound wrote:@ page 4:

To be fair the thickness of the saw doesnt make it less realistic or less detailed.

Sure its not a jewelry saw , but thats not what it is ,
compare it with those giant tree saws .

You've never seen a saw before have you? Thats a digging instrument, not a cutting one.

It looks nothing like any scale of tree cutter.

It does look a lot like a bucket wheel though.

**Zathras**

Sidstyler wrote:I know one thing, I'm interested in seeing what their forums look like...how many people are pissed off at the move to plastic and eventual transformation into GW, whom they hate so much.

It's their own fault, though.

It's not the switch to plastic, which I find hypocritical on Privateer Press's part after reading page 5 of the Prime rulebook, that drove me away from Warmachine. It's the switch from the MK1 ruleset to the craptastic MK2 ruleset that did it. And I'm not the only one. At my FLGS, everyone who plays Warmachine/Hordes is either getting out of the game completely or is sticking with the MK1 ruleset because of the MK2 rules.

**Agamemnon2**

Zathras wrote:It's not the switch to plastic, which I find hypocritical on Privateer Press's part after reading page 5 of the Prime rulebook, that drove me away from Warmachine. It's the switch from the MK1 ruleset to the craptastic MK2 ruleset that did it. And I'm not the only one. At my FLGS, everyone who plays Warmachine/Hordes is either getting out of the game completely or is sticking with the MK1 ruleset because of the MK2 rules.

That's an interesting thing. What motivated your ire? To me, the rulesets look more identical than any two consecutive editions of 40k. (I'm assuming here your beef is with the rules and not the unit cards, which changed rather more drastically).

Frankly, if the choice is between upholding "page 5" and doing something that makes sense like plastic miniatures do, I'm all for abolishing page 5.

**George Spiggott**

@Zathras: Do tell, what is it about MkII that made you leave?

**JohnHwangDD**

ShumaGorath wrote:
LunaHound wrote:compare it with those giant tree saws .

You've never seen a saw before have you?

O RLY?

Or perhaps...

Nah, totally not like a circular wood saw...

**RogueMarket**

Lol, I'm not quite sure how MK 2 sucks.

**malfred**

The complaint I've seen that I understand is the scaling down of abilities.

**usernamesareannoying**

ShumaGorath wrote:

a bit off topic but why is that robot humping that tree?

**Railguns**

Perhaps the better question is, why aren't ALL robots humping trees.

In any case, I suppose that the "saw" is either intended to be an instrument of intense mangling, or simply suffering from Warmachine "even our swords are blunt instruments" syndrome.

**ShumaGorath**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:
LunaHound wrote:compare it with those giant tree saws .

You've never seen a saw before have you?

O RLY?

Or perhaps...

Nah, totally not like a circular wood saw...

That saw isn't a foot wide like the khador model. It's not the diameter, it's the width of the blade that makes it unable to cut. And that blade would be totally unable to cut.

a bit off topic but why is that robot humping that tree?

Find a video of one in action. It's not humping that tree, it's murdering it. Really really badly.

**JohnHwangDD**

The blade width is a function of PP designing plastic like they design metal.

Yes, it could (and should) be narrower in plastic. GW proved thin plastic was possible with the original DE models a decade ago.

Better yet, it should be cross-beveled for self-cleaning, but that's RL trying to intrude.

**usernamesareannoying**

hey, at least they were nice enough to put the splatter shield over the top to limit the about of gore that gets on the jack.

**George Spiggott**

Looking closely at the model the 'blades' are wider than the wheel to which they are attached. If it bothers you I suspect that they could be sharpened to make them more 'realistic'.

**usernamesareannoying**

George Spiggott wrote:Looking closely at the model the 'blades' are wider than the wheel to which they are attached. If it bothers you I suspect that they could be sharpened to make them more 'realistic'.

or replaced with a dremel cutting wheel.... and motorized

**jmurph**

Like the plastic. Like the options. Like the paint. Don't like the narrower Khador chassis. Don't like the straight flail chain.

**RogueMarket**

CRYX REAPER

CRYX SLAYER

MENOTH VANQUISHER

MENOTH CRUSADER

What a tease.

I'm DIGGING THE VANQUIHSER.,

**George Spiggott**

They look gosh damned familiar.

**Platuan4th**

The Plastic Slayer looks more intimidating than the metal does. Gratz, PP, you've just sold me at least 2 of these bad boys.

**Thanatos73**

The plastic Vanquisher looks so much better, the legs having a wider stance is such a vast improvement.

**Agamemnon2**

I'm liking the changes they're made to these. For one, they had the restraint to have the Mk2 plastics very close to the original metals, so cohesion is clearly maintained.