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2013/02/27 22:10:05
Subject: Re:Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Black Templar Servitor Dragging Masonry
A Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy.
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Star Wars. It is far superior in every way
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2013/03/01 16:02:03
Subject: Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Trek and Wars have very little in common. It's frustrating that they're always talked about oppositionally like this.
Star Wars is about giant allegorical wars between good and evil. Trek is about individual people having individual people problems on the backdrop of bigger events.
Totally different focus and style. Being in space is the only connection between the two.
I'm seeing a lot of people in here bashing one or the other with things that are simply untrue. Don't come in here and say you hate one based on parodies and cultural references.
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2013/03/01 17:43:38
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Dakka Veteran
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50% the same
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2013/03/01 19:00:47
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Star Wars because of the OT, KotOR1&2, and the Thrawn trilogy&duology. The vast majority of the EU is garbage as are all of the prequels, including Revenge of the Sith. George Lucas is a hack that ripped off Dune and relied on others to turn his handful of good ideas into a well written and developed universe.
I really like Wrath of Khan, The Voyage Home, The Undiscovered Country, and First Contact, but most of Star Trek suffers from unimpressive writing and pretentiousness. TOS has a few really good episodes, but as a whole its not particularly good. I think the Twilight Zone and Outer Limits were both much better series. TNG had its moments, but it was nigh unwatchable nearly on with Mary Sue Wesley Crusher, Roddenberry's self insert, saving every damn day. DS9 was the best series, but it is well documented that it "borrowed" many key elements from Babylon 5. Voyager isn't bad. Enterprise was terrible.
Star Trek is more consistent than Star Wars, but the best storylines and characters in Star Wars are superior to the peaks in Star Trek. I don't think either series is significantly better than the other or that either series is half as good or as important as its extreme fans believe them to be. The biggest thing that annoys me about Star Trek is the emphasis on scientific mumbojumbo and that the series is true scifi while Star Wars is a space opera. Star Trek is extremely soft scifi with a lot of complete nonsense and fantastical elements in it.
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2013/03/01 19:46:47
Subject: Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I hope one day to see DS9 fans and B5 fans join together in the knowledge that their favorite show got made twice. Nobody else gets to say that.
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2013/03/01 20:09:09
Subject: Re:Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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I'd rather have it combined into one uber show. Captain Sisko CO of Babylon 5, Klingons kicking crap out of Shadows, Lyta Alexander blowing up Jem'hadar with her mind.
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Read my story at:
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2013/03/02 00:21:00
Subject: Re:Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Chicagoland
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Well B5 is far better. BSG is also a cut above the rest. IMO.
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2013/03/02 09:31:20
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Emboldened Warlock
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#1 is Firefly. It was what Roddenberry claimed was his goal(Wagon Train to the Stars) only much better and deeper.
#2 The first 4 seasons of Babylon 5. A show set during war times that had no problem killing off popular characters. Favorite scene is when the Churchill rams the Roanoke
#3 First 2 Star Wars Movies...The originals where Han Shot first.
#4 Star Trek ... The Original Series
#5 Doctor Who ... Tom Baker and David Tenet are Equal, imo
#6 Star Blazers/Space battleship Yamato
#7 Star Gate 1 ... The Movie
#8 Star Wars .. The Clone Wars..(animated series)
#9 Star Gate Atlantis
#10 Star gate 1 the Series
#11 Farscape (Hercules in space? ... ookayy)
#12 Battlestar Galactica ...the original series
#13 Star Trek Voyager....From season 3 until its end
#14 Buck Rodgers in the 25th Century (Cheesy Disco Space Adventure still much better than socialist soap opera in space)
#15 Star Trek TNG ...Socialist soap opera in Space. Only thing redeemng about TNG is Micheal Dorn as Worf
#16 DS9 Only thing worse than TNG due to it being so bloody boring. Only saving grace was Micheal Dorn as Worf .
Note- Did not include Enterprise because I didn't watch it, Roddeberry was dead (had no control over it) and Scott Bakula is either loved or hated by many people(esp. women)
Did not include the new BSG because I haven't seen it.
What series would I like to see???
Aside From Fire Fly returning then maybe a 5th Element Series
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2013/03/02 21:07:47
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David Tenant sucks Dalek ass as the Doctor.
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2013/03/02 22:07:01
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Ultramarine Scout with Sniper Rifle
Australia
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Star Wars
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Sleep when you are dead
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2013/03/02 23:53:04
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Captain Avatar wrote:#1 is Firefly. It was what Roddenberry claimed was his goal(Wagon Train to the Stars) only much better and deeper.
Firefly has to be the most overrated thing ever overrated.
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Read my story at:
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2013/03/09 18:34:18
Subject: Re:Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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IMPOSSIBLE TO CHOOSE??
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Relapse wrote:
Baron, don't forget to talk about the SEALs and Marines you habitually beat up on 2 and 3 at a time, as you PM'd me about.
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2013/03/14 18:35:32
Subject: Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Screaming Shining Spear
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As far as Sci-Fi universes go...
Star Wars first, followed by some other non-Trek items like:
Firefly
Space: Above and Beyond
Battletech
Then Star Trek.
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Farseer Faenyin
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2013/03/22 23:10:11
Subject: Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Precocious Human Child
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I like 'em both but if I really had to choose I'd say Trek, just because I think Shatner is hilarious
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Cesare Vezzoni
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2013/03/23 00:03:38
Subject: Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Farseer Faenyin wrote:As far as Sci-Fi universes go...
Star Wars first, followed by some other non-Trek items like:
Firefly
Space: Above and Beyond
Battletech
Then Star Trek.
What the feth? There's actually another S:AAB fan out here?!
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2013/03/23 00:19:30
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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I like and dislike both about evenly.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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2013/03/23 01:03:33
Subject: Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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prefer Trek, but both have ships that look similar to a MMORPG i play..... Wars does have some decent novels however
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2013/04/26 07:48:54
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Lurking Gaunt
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No contest......
(Dust buster) phaser or lightsabre?!?!
Come on!!!!!
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2013/04/29 10:35:36
Subject: Re:Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Babylon 5 off course!
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2013/04/29 11:03:59
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Star Trek. I don't like the Star Wars prequels, so I'm straight away discounting 50% of the "main" part of Star Wars. Star Trek has bad episodes, certainly, but when I think of the prequels I have a hard time saying anything I genuinely like about them (though they did lead to some good spin-off games). Aside from that I feel I grew up more with Trek, I was into Star Wars as well, a great deal, but I wasn't watching it every week or talking about it so much with friends. I prefer the characters, the ships and the setting.
Also, I think First Contact is better than any of the Star Wars films
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Driven away from WH40K by rules bloat and the expense of keeping up, now interested in smaller model count games and anything with nifty mechanics. |
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2013/05/02 17:19:40
Subject: Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
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Didnt a group of people do the actual math on this once? i can't remember how it went but they somehow figured out equations for the power of weapons and shields and armor. Star Wars won, i think... it might have been Trek haha. Anyone recall this?
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So long as the enemies of the Emperor still draw breath, there can be no peace. |
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2013/05/30 11:27:53
Subject: Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Combat Jumping Rasyat
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My personal list for pure Sci-Fi:
1.Firefly
2.SG-1 seasons 1-7ish (pre Ori)
3. Alien, Aliens, & Predator
4.Star Trek TNG / original Star Wars
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About 50. new Star Wars for Monsters an Vehicles
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ten bajillion. original Star Trek
If you throw in Pulp/Space Opera and tangential Sci-Fi make the list:
1.The Rocky Horror Picture Show
2.Flash Gordon (1980's with Topol, Timothy Dalton, Brian Blessed, & Queen)
3.Firefly
4.SG-1 seasons 1-7ish (pre Ori)
5.Muppet From Space
6. Alien, Aliens, & Predator
Etc.
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2013/05/30 13:37:35
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Firefly is without a doubt the classiest and most fun to watch Sci-Fi I've seen. The characters were so well written and acted while the plots were so original and interesting.
Battlestar Galactica (the new series) was a really thrilling ride and the only Sci-Fi series along with Firefly I've watched every single episode of. I liked a lot of the characters and the story changed so unexpectedly at times I would eagerly anticipate every next episode. The last few episodes in the final season were a bit iffy though. The final episode was pretty good but the ending wasn't spectacular in general.
I never really loved the Star Wars movies, I just liked the universe. I liked the last two of the prequel series even if Anakin was a really bad stain on them.
I generally like Star Trek though I've only seen a few episodes of TNG. I've seen mostly the original series, which while cringy at times can have some pretty good stories.
Stargate is probably my least favorite of the big three "stars" as the plots are pretty repetitive and there are many cliches. I watched quite a number of the Jack O'Neill episodes before they got the spaceship and after, and I counted about 7-8 times that SG-1 got captured and imprisoned. Jack O'Neill's character is pretty good though, somewhat of a saving grace for the show.
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2013/05/30 17:24:24
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Dakka Veteran
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Where's the option for "Both of these have been screwed up beyond recognition"?
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2013/07/02 10:10:52
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I'd say Star Wars mainly because I grew up with the original films and as a kid, I really tried to like Star Trek but my attention span wasn't all too great, it also didn't help that there was so much dialouge that I couldn't understand. (we don't dub things here). However, as much as I fail to find interest in Star trek, I do kinda like the original series mainly due to William Shatner because it's freakin' Shatner!
And Star Wars has the horrid prequels. So I guess they both have ups and downs. But In the long run. I'd say Star wars.
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2013/07/02 10:52:14
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[DCM]
The Main Man
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I voted Star Wars, but I do like Star Trek as well, particularly Deep Space Nine and some of the films, First Contact probably being my favorite.
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2013/07/02 11:27:27
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Blood Sacrifice to Khorne
Ireland
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Star trek is pure gak. Automatically Appended Next Post: Pure gak
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For the dark gods of chaos.But not slanesh.Everybody hates slanesh.
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2013/07/02 13:40:16
Subject: Star Trek or Star Wars?
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
The Ruins of the Boston Commonwealth
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I tried star trek once... not a fan. But I loved the clone wars show!
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2013/07/02 16:08:55
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2013/07/02 22:23:52
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Neither, dr who actually
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