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 slk28850 wrote:
You didn't include an I don't mind them option. I just buy less.

there was a good reason for this. distilled GW hatred doesn't need an antidote. no GW white knights wanted here.

 The Shadow wrote:
This is a culmination of the GW-hate on Dakka, a thread that assumes everyone dislikes them.

Hey, Dean Ambrose, is this what this thread is about?



This thread is for people who dislike GW to tell the OP why. If you like GW, why exactly did you come into a thread titled "When did you start disliking GW?". What exactly do you expect to find in here?


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 viewfinder wrote:

 slk28850 wrote:
You didn't include an I don't mind them option. I just buy less.

there was a good reason for this. distilled GW hatred doesn't need an antidote. no GW white knights wanted here.

Yet you're still posting in this thread...

I don't hate GW per se. I just think the guys in charge have no idea what they are doing.

 viewfinder wrote:

 slk28850 wrote:
You didn't include an I don't mind them option. I just buy less.

there was a good reason for this. distilled GW hatred doesn't need an antidote. no GW white knights wanted here.

Your views aside, you realize the context of "White Knighting" is not a positive one, right? It usually means defending a subject or person at the expense of reasoning or logic usually due to ignorance, incompetence, or being a "Fan At All Costs".

And to be honest, I have not see much actual fact based reasoning from most of your posts. Many people wouldn't call support GW "White Knighting" if you brought a reasonable argument. And no, "They didn't design the game to be competitive" isn't a reasonable argument. It's quite factual that a balanced game is a better game for all player types.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I don't hate GW per se. I just think the guys in charge have no idea what they are doing.

I second this.

It would be easier to put an option at the bottom of the poll that would be "all of the above", so I could just check that one....

 AegisGrimm wrote:
It would be easier to put an option at the bottom of the poll that would be "all of the above", so I could just check that one....

So, you wanted there to be a "one click bundle"?

 Grimtuff wrote:

 viewfinder wrote:

 slk28850 wrote:
You didn't include an I don't mind them option. I just buy less.

there was a good reason for this. distilled GW hatred doesn't need an antidote. no GW white knights wanted here.

Yet you're still posting in this thread...

Viewfinder has been posting pithy one liners all over these threads just recently, and while I'm sure, in his head, he's thinking...


Personally, all I'm really getting is..


So perhaps try engaging in a proper debate, rather gaking and running huh?

 Grimtuff wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
It would be easier to put an option at the bottom of the poll that would be "all of the above", so I could just check that one....

So, you wanted there to be a "one click bundle"?

Totally! A lazier way to get the exact same result, but with no added benefit for doing it all at once...

When the sales department , took over the studio.
And the game development changed from making exiting games to appeal to players.
To a '.. promotion department of a toy company...'

 thenoobbomb wrote:
No option "I don't hate GW".

Yay for biased polls, I guess.

It's funny. Back in the eye of the storm, right after GW released Finecast and it was an abomination on top of a huge price rise, there were literally dozens of complaining threads on Dakka. Someone made a "What are some things you LIKE about GW?" thread. You know, because there's always got to be someone defending a corporation.I got a warning and my post deleted for jokingly saying I liked a negative. It's like the OP specifically was fishing for a certain attitude of GW worship in its posts, and if you didn't fall into line, you could go pound sand.

It's funny how this is a thread specifically to discuss the things that people that don't like about GW, and white knights are posting over and over, complaining there's no positive option on the poll. And somehow these posts are still here, over and over again. Just thought that was a funny little double standard.

As for me, the Finecast debacle coupled with the price rise put me right on the anger train. I could have accepted either one, but both of them together was really offensive to me. I STILL hate working with Finecast, even with its problems "fixed." It still feels cheap, and I'd much rather them go into multi-part plastics for said models.

I personally enjoy 6th edition, and I like the accelerated releases, which are something I had been advocating since I got into the game in 3rd Edition. The "downloadable content" not so much.

Brother Gyoken wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:
No option "I don't hate GW".

Yay for biased polls, I guess.

It's funny. Back in the eye of the storm, right after GW released Finecast and it was an abomination on top of a huge price rise, there were literally dozens of complaining threads on Dakka. Someone made a "What are some things you LIKE about GW?" thread. You know, because there's always got to be someone defending a corporation.I got a warning and my post deleted for jokingly saying I liked a negative. It's like the OP specifically was fishing for a certain attitude of GW worship in its posts, and if you didn't fall into line, you could go pound sand.

It's funny how this is a thread specifically to discuss the things that people that don't like about GW, and white knights are posting over and over, complaining there's no positive option on the poll. And somehow these posts are still here, over and over again. Just thought that was a funny little double standard.

As for me, the Finecast debacle coupled with the price rise put me right on the anger train. I could have accepted either one, but both of them together was really offensive to me. I STILL hate working with Finecast, even with its problems "fixed." It still feels cheap, and I'd much rather them go into multi-part plastics for said models.

I personally enjoy 6th edition, and I like the accelerated releases, which are something I had been advocating since I got into the game in 3rd Edition. The "downloadable content" not so much.

that may have been my friend Solofalcon's thread. it was shut down pretty quick, yet a GW whine thread still stayed strong.

No company will ever do everything right all the time. I'm surprised about the limited complaints on the new Astra Militarum book. very few screams of anguish...

 viewfinder wrote:


that may have been my friend Solofalcon's thread. it was shut down pretty quick, yet a GW whine thread still stayed strong.

No company will ever do everything right all the time. I'm surprised about the limited complaints on the new Astra Militarum book. very few screams of anguish...

I doubt it, this thread went on until people were sick of it.

Is it any wonder you think everyone is a "whiner" when your immediate instinct is to claim surprise at very few "screams of anguish?"

I have been a 40k gamer since the mid 90's and I can understand what precipitates polls like this one. After all these years, "Bitter" is a word I would use to describe myself only on the absolute best of days, whenever I am asked about how I feel about a game I have spent put so much effort over my life into.

 viewfinder wrote:

my friend Solofalcon.

Well, damn. That explains a lot.

For me, it really is the price. I could forgive everything else, even them laying me off, if the prices weren't off the wall because GW has given me a lot of good times in the past with their products, and I genuinely enjoy their IPs.

 viewfinder wrote:
that may have been my friend Solofalcon's thread. it was shut down pretty quick, yet a GW whine thread still stayed strong.

No company will ever do everything right all the time. I'm surprised about the limited complaints on the new Astra Militarum book. very few screams of anguish...

Maybe because people actually have good reasons to dislike GW and don't blindly hate everything they do. If GW would man up and fix their balance and rules issues 80% of the people you declared blind haters would disapear.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 viewfinder wrote:

my friend Solofalcon.

Well, damn. That explains a lot.

Doesn't it.

Never seen them both in the same room either.

Constant price hiking. I can stomach everything else but it's really that simple.

So newfangled this hate. I started hating when I was playing Daemon Legion and it was announced that it wasn't going to be supported anymore nor a tournament official army. I quickly sold them and quit GW games back then.

 Rautakanki wrote:
So newfangled this hate. I started hating when I was playing Daemon Legion and it was announced that it wasn't going to be supported anymore nor a tournament official army. I quickly sold them and quit GW games back then.

And you still spend time going through 40k forums? Wow.

 Rautakanki wrote:
So newfangled this hate. I started hating when I was playing Daemon Legion and it was announced that it wasn't going to be supported anymore nor a tournament official army. I quickly sold them and quit GW games back then.

Daemon Legion? I don't remember that codex. Was it an Eye of Terror thing I'm forgetting about?

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Rautakanki wrote:
So newfangled this hate. I started hating when I was playing Daemon Legion and it was announced that it wasn't going to be supported anymore nor a tournament official army. I quickly sold them and quit GW games back then.

Daemon Legion? I don't remember that codex. Was it an Eye of Terror thing I'm forgetting about?

Storm of Chaos for WHFB.

At the time the list made Daemons viable as a force on their own (before, their ward save was removed by magical attacks). It had several units that were no longer supported (I want my Plague Chariots back!), but this is understandable given GW's way of doing things.

Then came the Daemons of Chaos book. So in all fairness I'm not entirely sure what Rautakanki is so hung up upon, unless his entire army comprised of Heralds on Plague Chariots and Plague Riders welded to 50mm bases.

Though I do feel the pain with LATD, Cult of Slaanesh and Kroot Mercenaries...

I don't hate GW, but if it were a woman, I wouldn't ask it out to dinner, either.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Rautakanki wrote:
So newfangled this hate. I started hating when I was playing Daemon Legion and it was announced that it wasn't going to be supported anymore nor a tournament official army. I quickly sold them and quit GW games back then.

Daemon Legion? I don't remember that codex. Was it an Eye of Terror thing I'm forgetting about?

Storm of Chaos for WHFB.

At the time the list made Daemons viable as a force on their own (before, their ward save was removed by magical attacks). It had several units that were no longer supported (I want my Plague Chariots back!), but this is understandable given GW's way of doing things.

Then came the Daemons of Chaos book. So in all fairness I'm not entirely sure what Rautakanki is so hung up upon, unless his entire army comprised of Heralds on Plague Chariots and Plague Riders welded to 50mm bases.

Though I do feel the pain with LATD, Cult of Slaanesh and Kroot Mercenaries...

No wonder I don't remember, I'm not as up to snuff on WFB as I am on 40k.


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 kronk wrote:
I don't hate GW, but if it were a woman, I wouldn't ask it out to dinner, either.

Would you pepper spray it and kick it in the groin when it "m'lady"ied you and tipped it's fedora though?

listed items don't go back far enough : When I realized the cycle of New Codexes/rules = New Model sales or die

1101 votes! That's some real upset customers there. If that was even 10% of GW base they would be concerned but in reality that number would have to be in the ten's of thousands

It's a multiple choice poll, people. That means the highest number of votes in one category are a rough estimate of how many people voted in total - around one hundred and fifty.

I have a dislike, but it grew slowly.
It started when the WD was turned to trash, and basically became an over priced advertising mag. However, i merely stopped buying it.
It then increased as the prices where hiked up to the point where a basic infantry unit was costing around £20. So i started Ebaying even more.
Finecast never really affected me as i started pre-Failcast and have a considerable metal collection. Those i needed i Ebayed.
When the store staff where replaced at my local GW and the new ones where really pushy... Thats when i started getting really disgruntled. Nontheless i took my trade elsewhere for the most part.
When the bad and overpriced Terrain sets where released, i said no. I build my own now.
When the new models started looking like anime ripoffs i looked at my stash and smiled. And i Ebayed once more.
The real crime came when they declared codex nerfguard and basically reduced the IG even further whilst pushing up the prices massively. Because they cannot have the SMs looking bad, can they? And even worse, the gacky new models look terrible.

My love for GW waned when they killed the good old days, where they did things like when in White Dwarf they released the beta rules for Battlefleet Gothic, complete with cardstock punch-outs of ships, blast markers, torpedoes, etc. It was just an advertisement at it's base value, but in the coolest way.

Those were the days where GW was a company who had a strong stable of guys/gals who were in touch with what made the company so "cool" to it's fanbase.