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 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Interesting, how are those people that believe that table top war games glorify war think about more abstract games like;

Chess could be considered a war-game, Igo is definitely a battle for area control. How about board games? Some of those could be thought of as glorifying violence, lying, backstabbing, deceiving etcetera.

All those games of Monoply, training me for the real world.

 Krellnus wrote:

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Interesting, how are those people that believe that table top war games glorify war think about more abstract games like;

Chess could be considered a war-game, Igo is definitely a battle for area control. How about board games? Some of those could be thought of as glorifying violence, lying, backstabbing, deceiving etcetera.

All those games of Monoply, training me for the real world.

For a career in manipulating the property market?

I don't tell people I play this game. It's just something I like to do on my own. Whenever I have house parties I throw a sheet over the painting table. It cracks me up. What's funny though, is this chick was in the room just chilling out and she must have peeped under the sheet and she came out into the main room where the party was cranking and she was like "Hey! You paint Warhammer!" and I was like *runs over, grabs it off her and tucking into my pocket* "Oi shush, I don't want everyone to know I'm a nerd." and she was like "Your painting is really good." - then I was like, mmm, yea boy. Warhammer skillz pull da ladies.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

I'm not sure that you're properly responding to my point. My point is the same as Talizvar's...that boys and girls are wired differently, and will gravitate toward different toys and interests regardless of what pressure you place on them. That's the struggle that some transgendered people go through, right? That they just can't identify with a given gender no matter how much parental and societal pressure has been placed on them throughout their lives.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding jorny's explanation of those studies he's referring to, but it sure sounds like they're claiming some kind of gender neutrality in the absence of these pressures. Which I simply don't buy.

Of course you can teach them things, like the gravity of war.

I'd definitely agree with this... my kids are 4 and 2 (one of each gender) and I gotta say that they each have no problem playing with hot wheels, legos, dolls, etc... My daughter tends to play with the "boy toys" in a more gentle, nurturing sort of way, whereas the boy, even when grabbing/playing with his sisters' doll, basically destroys it (it flies, gets body slammed, crushed, etc) and generally plays with it as if it were any GI Joe toy.

I had Action Men when I was a kid.

One ended up on the roof of our three storey house (in my defence it had a parachute and was supposed to be thrown into the air).

Another one was obliterated when I used the washing line as a slingshot and launched him at a fence. It was really quite beautiful the way the limbs came apart.

And I dressed one in a camo jacket, placed him on a pile of leaves and artfully arranged leaves to camouflage him. I promptly forgot where he was and found him days later, after heavy rain. His joins were never quite the same again...

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Chess could be considered a war-game...

Even a cursory look at the history of chess shows that it most definitely is a war game.

I find approaching the subject from a painting and modeling point of view sets the hooks nicely for most people, then you can mention "oh and there's rules to use them for fights and the like"

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I find approaching the subject from a painting and modeling point of view sets the hooks nicely for most people, then you can mention "oh and there's rules to use them for fights and the like"

Agreed. My grandmother is 88 years old and has always painted ceramic figurines. I never really made the connection between that and the fact that I like to paint models until recently. I think there's something genetic that makes that aspect of the hobby enjoyable to certain people. I find it relaxing and rewarding when I finish a miniature.

i find that i won't mention it at work, even though i dont actually game,only model/paint, because of the stigma associated with it, and being in the armed forces, there are some less than intelligent folk who would jump upon it, although 2 or 3 of my good friends from my unit know that i do, and dont say anything about it. overall, i think stuff like this that would be steroetypically 'nerdy' are becoming less so nowadays. retro videogames, comic books etc, are becoming more and more in vogue..and i think this is definately in part due to tattooing and its growing popularit y. a great number of the tattooists on my instagram also paint/play warhammer. and tattoos themselves are perfect for that sort of scene..demons, swords through heads, skulls, sexy ladies... whats not to love? and with that, all the people who are getting into tattoos are starting to find that sort of thing cool..and thus, the similar things also open up to them.


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 Kill3RKiD wrote:
I don't tell people I play this game. It's just something I like to do on my own. Whenever I have house parties I throw a sheet over the painting table. It cracks me up. What's funny though, is this chick was in the room just chilling out and she must have peeped under the sheet and she came out into the main room where the party was cranking and she was like "Hey! You paint Warhammer!" and I was like *runs over, grabs it off her and tucking into my pocket* "Oi shush, I don't want everyone to know I'm a nerd." and she was like "Your painting is really good." - then I was like, mmm, yea boy. Warhammer skillz pull da ladies.

i feel like youve left this story unfinished..


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ps, if any fellow brits want to see a good looking gal, go to the oxford street store in london, theres a very pretty lady who works there

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
i find that i won't mention it at work, even though i dont actually game,only model/paint, because of the stigma associated with it, and being in the armed forces, there are some less than intelligent folk who would jump upon it, although 2 or 3 of my good friends from my unit know that i do, and dont say anything about it. overall, i think stuff like this that would be steroetypically 'nerdy' are becoming less so nowadays. retro videogames, comic books etc, are becoming more and more in vogue..and i think this is definately in part due to tattooing and its growing popularit y. a great number of the tattooists on my instagram also paint/play warhammer. and tattoos themselves are perfect for that sort of scene..demons, swords through heads, skulls, sexy ladies... whats not to love? and with that, all the people who are getting into tattoos are starting to find that sort of thing cool..and thus, the similar things also open up to them.

Maybe the UKs military is weird, but I know that in the US military, if you cant find a game on/around base, you're doing it wrong... Gaming is, quietly huge in the army.. It's funny, because some guys wont mention it at work like you, but then they'll see a guy from work, play against him, and occasionally not even realize that they work near each other all the time.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

weeble1000 wrote:

It also has a lot to do with protective equipment. You don't bash your head into someone at full speed if you are just wearing a leather helmet because...it hurts like the dickens. The pain that happens when your head hits things is good at encouraging players to avoid aggressive motions that cause their brains to rattle around inside of their very well-protected skulls.

Louisiana. So back woods they still use leather helmets for football

You know what I meant :/. When american football players used leather helmets there were less injuries of the sort we see today, and I didn't know the name of that lightly padded rugby headgear, which is apparently called a scrum cap. In any case, the point is that, ironically, the protective equipment is likely a significant cause of the injuries.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
i find that i won't mention it at work, even though i dont actually game,only model/paint, because of the stigma associated with it, and being in the armed forces, there are some less than intelligent folk who would jump upon it, although 2 or 3 of my good friends from my unit know that i do, and dont say anything about it. overall, i think stuff like this that would be steroetypically 'nerdy' are becoming less so nowadays. retro videogames, comic books etc, are becoming more and more in vogue..and i think this is definately in part due to tattooing and its growing popularit y. a great number of the tattooists on my instagram also paint/play warhammer. and tattoos themselves are perfect for that sort of scene..demons, swords through heads, skulls, sexy ladies... whats not to love? and with that, all the people who are getting into tattoos are starting to find that sort of thing cool..and thus, the similar things also open up to them.

Maybe the UKs military is weird, but I know that in the US military, if you cant find a game on/around base, you're doing it wrong... Gaming is, quietly huge in the army.. It's funny, because some guys wont mention it at work like you, but then they'll see a guy from work, play against him, and occasionally not even realize that they work near each other all the time.

A lot of the UK's military is populated by the following:

1) Real manly men (You dare question my manliness? I certainly do not "play")
2) Chavs or Ex-Chavs, who seem to be genetically adverse to wargaming
3) People with little to no money or time (How can you waste so much?)
4) The average person who lived through an education with the above.

 gorgon wrote:

weeble1000 wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 jorny wrote:
Your wife is probably the best example here. I have never heard of the study you refer to. I have only seen Swedish studies that show that kids are very influenced by societal pressure, but provided toys that are gendered both "boy" and "girl" from the start, children will play with both regardless of their sex. So there is nothing that says that boys in particular are wired to play war. There are however a lot of things that point to that there is a drive in children to play games that involve some degee of physical struggle with each other, and this is regardless if they are boys or girls.

Do you have children?

I haven't met many parents who don't think nature is easily the dominant factor over nuture. And I trust those observations -- even if they may be biased -- over the limited kind of observations that a study can conduct.

I am a parent, and you can add me to your list that place nurture in at least equal measure with nature. You can feth a kid up...badly. And as a parent, you don't, and can't, control everything your child is exposed to. Your children are being socialized by the society around you. They are being taught about gender norms by just about everything they see around them, and they soak that gak up like a damn sponge.

You can't dictate everything that your children will see, and hear, and experience. But as a parent you can provide guidance and context to help them become the kind of person (broadly speaking) that you earnestly hope they will be. Talizvar's post is an excellent example. Edit: and Slowthar's post above.

I'm not sure that you're properly responding to my point. My point is the same as Talizvar's...that boys and girls are wired differently, and will gravitate toward different toys and interests regardless of what pressure you place on them. That's the struggle that some transgendered people go through, right? That they just can't identify with a given gender no matter how much parental and societal pressure has been placed on them throughout their lives.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding jorny's explanation of those studies he's referring to, but it sure sounds like they're claiming some kind of gender neutrality in the absence of these pressures. Which I simply don't buy.

Of course you can teach them things, like the gravity of war.

That is precisely what I was responding to. I do not think boys and girls are "wired" that differently, and I did not get the impression that Talizvar's post had anything to do with it one way or another. I think his post did have relevance to my other point about child rearing. I think you read into that post what you wanted to see. Just because a boy is going to pick up a stick and go "bang bang" does not mean boys are bilogically predisposed to do that.

And as a parent, you don't, and can't, control everything your child is exposed to. Your children are being socialized by the society around you. They are being taught about gender norms by just about everything they see around them, and they soak that gak up like a damn sponge.

Simply put, gender is predominantly socialized, as opposed to being biological. That point is made rather explicitly in my post, as you can see from the quote above.

This is pretty damn well understood and well researched. Sex = biology, gender = socialization. Because I can't control everything my boys are exposed to, they are going to be exposed to gender norm socialization. You can try to fight it, but you aren't going to win that fight, because boys in our western society will probably pick up a stick and go "bang bang" with it even if you don't give them guns to play with and try to keep them from being exposed to violent media.

If you take your kids to the playground...uh oh! They are playing with other kids whose parents are not restricting their children's access to gender norm socialization. Ergo, now your child is being exposed to it. You can put your kid in a box and feed it through a tube if you want, but you'd cause far more problems then you'd solve, assuming you think gender norms are a 'problem'.

 Azreal13 wrote:
There is no escaping the fact that these hobbies to attract a slightly disproportionate number of the socially awkward. That it's "not a thing for girls" might have meant that it isn't "sexy." She's right, it isn't, but in my experience it isn't so much the hobby itself that's not sexy so much as the sort of gamer that takes the whole thing slightly too seriously.

Slightly disproportionate? Since I restarted playing 6 months ago I've resigned myself to that 90% of people are socially awkward and hampered by massive egos in some way or another. Out of the 5 first people I met in my local GW four of them had speech impediments (all different ones); one had a stutter, another whispered, the third guy immediately told me "don't play against these guys cause they're WAAC and donkey-caves" in a totally bizarre windy voice (I can't describe it in any other way), and the fifth guy, who was in his late teens and who couldn't say "r", was swinging from leg to leg, his massive belly almost totalling the nearby games tables as he bellowed "I AM A SPACE MUWEEN!" across the store. I have no problem with people with speech impediments, but these were all guys with serious social issues. Luckily, the fourth guy was a nice, chatty guy!

I played a tournament where one guy told me all about his awesome Chaos guys and his awesome unkillable Nurgle Chaos Lord, who then started shaking with rage because he lost due to first blood. I hated that game as I was stood next to a guy with the most serious BO problem I've ever encountered. I was gagging throughout the game and the entire store smelled of sweat and cheetos. I HONESTLY thought the stereotypical neckbeards was a rarity until I played that tournament.

My brother and I went into the local GW 'cause he was a bit curious, but the stench of sweat and the people there was enough to put him off. For all the hate GW staff sometimes get for their sales techniques, he found them far more polite and nice than the landwhales slouching around the store.

 Poppabear wrote:
Wargaming will probably always never be socially acceptable which is sad because its such a fantastic thing, its social, fun, and you gain A LOT of useful skills along the way. But, it isn't going out on the town, drinking a lot, indulging in the useless dramas young people get into, just making a general knob of yourself (which to be honest I join in on a lot, cause its a good time! ;D)

Its that stereotypical socially inept fat guy who never leaves his house, that has cheedo stains on the top and bottom of his sweat stained shirt and smells like mothballs... which I have encountered to many times. that people are put off by, and manage to think that's what the majority of wargamers look like. I mean, if your that guy, just friggen clean your self, you actually do all us wargamers a favor by not putting yourself to that stereotype.

 Selym wrote:

I'm usually pretty smartly presented, and I'm easy to converse with, thankfully. Though, I've never seen much point in what many people in my school used to call fun, which was getting drunk and then staggering around for several hours making racist comments and damaging property.

Maybe it's culture shock, like Blue and Orange morality.

Going out on the town and getting wasted gains you social skills (though doing it sober is better), which the wargaming community as a whole struggles with. Leading on from the "slightly disproportionate" comment, the pick up community, which I've been heavily into for years, have a lot of people of similar disposition to the wargaming community as far as social angst and skills go. However, some/most go out up to 7 days a week and spend hours every week improving their social skills by talking to strangers and acquiring good habits that help them in life, be it taking care of their bodies, reading good literature (BL is the literal equivalent to McDonald's) or learning financial skills. The wargaming community is very different there's no culture for self improvement even though there are people who take care of themselves, but to a much smaller extent than most mainstream hobbies.

As far as clothing goes... well, this is the GW dress code, nevermind the black band t-shirts with Hammerfall (or something with wolves/dragons etc), cargo trousers, and if the boots aren't on you can bet they're those sporty hill walking shoes or worn-out trainers. And seriously, goatees look like gak. Wargamers tend to be more uniform than goths and emos.

 slowthar wrote:
OP, if you think that's a close-minded view, you should've asked her her opinion on gay marriage, minorities, and her least favorite political party. Turns out old people don't like a LOT of stuff.

It's a good exercise for all wargamers to grapple with this kind of judgement by others to remind them of two things:

1. You could really take it to heart and feel like a victim, but would that really get you anything? No. You have to learn to ignore other people's opinions of you, because they don't matter.

2. The next time you're quick to judge someone who has completely different interests, think about how un-informed others are who judge you.

Also, see below.

 Bullockist wrote:

I often wonder if religious crusaders let their children read the old testament , hell, even the new testament with Herod and Revelations.

 DukeBadham wrote:

TBH I doubt most religous crusaders read the bible either, just google "bible qoutes against..."

 Shandara wrote:

For a career in manipulating the property market?

These are prime example of what people think of wargamers (though some of this might be tongue in cheek). Thinking that spending hours and hundreds of pounds on toy soldiers is weird does not mean they hate minorities and gays. The entire community is full of faux-intellectual atheist preacher liberals (but not liberal in the classical sense of the word). Look at the wargaming twitterfeeds and there's an obscene amount of knee-jerk hate for anything conservative (this includes BL writers), which I presume is due to their massive egos. This is mostly Yuropean wargamers mind.

My prime example is me walking into GW and chatting to one of the staff, when he casually states, verbatim, that "the Tories blame the poor for everything." This was not tongue in cheek.

 Naberiel wrote:
Please, dont take it as insult, but people that hiding they hobby that they like are hypocrites.

This is also very true. Hiding your hobby due to being ashamed is generally due to a massive ego that doesn't want bruised - I once did an experiment where my brother and I pulled two chicks back to mine and I had on purpose left loads of 40k miniatures on the kitchen table. It didn't even register. However, there's a massive difference between hiding/denying you're a wargamer and being all crossfit about it.

 jorny wrote:


The reason that there are so few women in the nerdy hobbies is not only because of the prejudice against it, it is also because some gamers and games seem hell bent of keeping women out, with both content of games and the behaviour of the gamers.

Another problem is that most women aren't drawn to wargaming, but aye, the fedora-tippers and white knights are fething bizarre and freak women the f-out.

tl;dr - the stereotypes (or median) are more or less true which reinforces people's opinion of wargamers.

Can I just say my comment was half joking and half serious, I have seen way to many people using religion to bash on things (homosexuality is always a fun topic) but then when confronted they reveal they dont have as much knowlegde of the bible as they claim. But at the same time I have nothing against religion of people disaproving of actions due to their religion (hell theres a whole argument on youtube where I defend a homophobic christian from an athiest because no one should ever have their religion attacked) but I dislike those who try and force their beliefs about their religion on others; i.e. religous crusaders.

Basically I was being sarcastic about a topic I have experienced (thanks to youtube...)

Yeah, I think I was just called a "faux-intellectual atheist preacher liberal."

Good times.


Edit: I smell a new sig...

Monopoly is very much training for real life, it shows you never to give a 13 year old a break at anything.. and to watch family members more closely than you most hated foe.

Does that game actually have a rulebook? not sure I've ever seen it they seem to be "lost" to be replaced with a huge range of suspicious sounding rules that are apparently in the rules but "we lost them so sorry can't show you", see above comment on never trusting a 13 year old..

Not bitter...

Honest guv.

And the tories are to blame for everything, as are the rest of the cheating weasels of all colours...

Everyone wants something to bash, some way to feel superior, gamers get the short end of the stick as we seldom fight back, or for that matter appear to notice.

At college I used to play Star Fleet Battles in the canteen at lunch time and indeed during any spare time, group of about ten of us played it. Some had "problems" with that, mind you they had more of a problem when one of my fellow gamers pointed out that at some ill defined point in the future he would own a house with a pool, and would perhaps hire this guy to clean it..

As the saying goes thats when the fight started..

Turns out several of my fellow gamers also studied both martial arts and had spent time leaving in Manchester. Fight didn't last long, and since as a group we we no trouble to anyone and turned up to classes it wasn't us who got thrown out at lunchtimes..

Me? I look down on people with silly suitcases who walk slowly, I have to look down at them as they are on the floor, under the bus where I pushed them.. Well everyone has to feel superior to someone...

It takes all kinds to make the world go round.

Early teen boys stink, just a fact, they can shower twice a day and will still be strong.
http://allnurses.com/general-nursing-discussion/what-is-smell-147185.html

The older great unwashed I have no excuses for them.

The problem is holding against someone something they cannot change.
Speech impediments, physical features, mental "challenges" should not be ridiculed because they have no choice.
Religion is more "choice" but how you are raised and dare I say "indoctrination" applied there was not.

I think the "observations" that are the most hurtful is "how could you waste your time with that?".
While other "grown-up" men of my age go drink at the bar and cheer-on some professional athletes on the TV.

Heck, I can do anything I need, surprising how many men cannot cook and their wife seems to be a direct replacement for their mom in care and upkeep.
Things you choose not to learn, things you choose to do are subject to judgment no matter what: it is part of life.

As long as anyone does something different from the majority it will always be judged since it appears to be deviant behavior in their world view.

I have never met a woman (this goes both for co-workers, acquaintances, friends or love interests) who had a problem with the fact that I play Warhammer or other nerdy games. And I can't see why being a gamer should be a problem when meeting a partner.

As i said earlier, how you are met when saying you are a gamer goes down to how you present it, and yourself in general. Of course, you can always be unlucky and meet the odd hater, but I think that is rare.

I never play at a store, I prefer to play with a group of friends. Simply because I want to play with people I would spend time even if there wasn't any gaming involved. I also prefer to shop at FLGS's that are run like real serious shops and not like an arena for neck beards, shops that even casual gamers and people in general feel comfortable visisting. I am lucky to have two of those in my home town.

Oh, and I dont see why there should be a problem with anyone being a bit socially awkward, as long as you best to be a nice, kind and emphatic person. And no one should be mocked for having a speech impediment.


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 Talizvar wrote:
It takes all kinds to make the world go round.

Early teen boys stink, just a fact, they can shower twice a day and will still be strong.
http://allnurses.com/general-nursing-discussion/what-is-smell-147185.html

The older great unwashed I have no excuses for them.

Yeah, and as long as they shower on a regular basis, early teens usually don't smell that bad.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Some of those could be thought of as glorifying violence, lying, backstabbing, deceiving etcetera.

Monopoly and uno spring to mind

weeble1000 wrote:

You know what I meant :/. When american football players used leather helmets there were less injuries of the sort we see today, and I didn't know the name of that lightly padded rugby headgear, which is apparently called a scrum cap. In any case, the point is that, ironically, the protective equipment is likely a significant cause of the injuries.

Yeah... Scrum Cap is the "proper name" for them. And honestly, the ONLY thing they really protect against is cauliflower ear (and potentially frostbite, if you're playing in a game that's cold enough).

Young teenagers and old teenagers will always have a bit of a whiff about them, thats why we love baths and showers and aftershaves and deoderants. At the end of the day, I am larger then average, as such I sweat more then average (not too much mind you) so I bathe daily, wash well, and apply roll on anti-perspirent and also spray deoderant+anti-perspirant daily, and if I leave the house I also apply aftershave to make sure I stink as little as possible. I also usually take deoderant and aftershave with me if I have a bag. If more wargamers did similar things we wouldnt have a reputation as BO smelling people (Not saying I'm amazing or anything, just I do what I need to minimize my BO)

 DukeBadham wrote:
Young teenagers and old teenagers will always have a bit of a whiff about them, thats why we love baths and showers and aftershaves and deoderants. At the end of the day, I am larger then average, as such I sweat more then average (not too much mind you) so I bathe daily, wash well, and apply roll on anti-perspirent and also spray deoderant+anti-perspirant daily, and if I leave the house I also apply aftershave to make sure I stink as little as possible. I also usually take deoderant and aftershave with me if I have a bag. If more wargamers did similar things we wouldnt have a reputation as BO smelling people (Not saying I'm amazing or anything, just I do what I need to minimize my BO)

I agree, but to be fair, the place where I play is hot as crap and I sweat like crazy. I'm all for hygiene, but sometimes it is the environment that makes players stinky too

 jreilly89 wrote:

 DukeBadham wrote:
Young teenagers and old teenagers will always have a bit of a whiff about them, thats why we love baths and showers and aftershaves and deoderants. At the end of the day, I am larger then average, as such I sweat more then average (not too much mind you) so I bathe daily, wash well, and apply roll on anti-perspirent and also spray deoderant+anti-perspirant daily, and if I leave the house I also apply aftershave to make sure I stink as little as possible. I also usually take deoderant and aftershave with me if I have a bag. If more wargamers did similar things we wouldnt have a reputation as BO smelling people (Not saying I'm amazing or anything, just I do what I need to minimize my BO)

I agree, but to be fair, the place where I play is hot as crap and I sweat like crazy. I'm all for hygiene, but sometimes it is the environment that makes players stinky too

This. ^

In my experience, the majority of GW stores I've visited were always hot and stuffy.

 slowthar wrote:
Yeah, I think I was just called a "faux-intellectual atheist preacher liberal."

Good times.


Edit: I smell a new sig...

It was not meant to be taken personally. The quotes were there to illustrate why people think wargamers are a certain way.

See?
Identified root cause, GW not to be cheap on air conditioning, think of it as producing an ideal sales environment.

yeah but theres a difference between getting a bit sweaty during general daytime activity, and having BO, which is a result of not showering/washing for a few days. without doubt this is what i consider the worst part of enjoying things that are a bit nerdy.. i went to a retro videogames convention the other weekend, and ever so often you'd get an overpowering whiff from someone or another..its was like biological warfare. grim.


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 Talizvar wrote:
See?
Identified root cause, GW not to be cheap on air conditioning, think of it as producing an ideal sales environment.

my local store did invest in AC during the hot summer months this year.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
i find that i won't mention it at work, even though i dont actually game,only model/paint, because of the stigma associated with it, and being in the armed forces, there are some less than intelligent folk who would jump upon it, although 2 or 3 of my good friends from my unit know that i do, and dont say anything about it. overall, i think stuff like this that would be steroetypically 'nerdy' are becoming less so nowadays. retro videogames, comic books etc, are becoming more and more in vogue..and i think this is definately in part due to tattooing and its growing popularit y. a great number of the tattooists on my instagram also paint/play warhammer. and tattoos themselves are perfect for that sort of scene..demons, swords through heads, skulls, sexy ladies... whats not to love? and with that, all the people who are getting into tattoos are starting to find that sort of thing cool..and thus, the similar things also open up to them.


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 Kill3RKiD wrote:
I don't tell people I play this game. It's just something I like to do on my own. Whenever I have house parties I throw a sheet over the painting table. It cracks me up. What's funny though, is this chick was in the room just chilling out and she must have peeped under the sheet and she came out into the main room where the party was cranking and she was like "Hey! You paint Warhammer!" and I was like *runs over, grabs it off her and tucking into my pocket* "Oi shush, I don't want everyone to know I'm a nerd." and she was like "Your painting is really good." - then I was like, mmm, yea boy. Warhammer skillz pull da ladies.

i feel like youve left this story unfinished..


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ps, if any fellow brits want to see a good looking gal, go to the oxford street store in london, theres a very pretty lady who works there

Later that nigh she summoned the courage to tell me she contracted herpes a few months prior. I decided not to go there. She felt undesirable but I explained that I've never been a gambler and wasn't prepared to expose myself to a lifelong STD.

Thank god I only do historical games... far more normal people who can hold a conversation. Probably due to the higer average age... though our youngest club member is 21 and a sound lad.

Though our historical geeks are true Ubergeeks.

I must say, after reading this thread I will never go into a GW store again.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Chess could be considered a war-game, Igo is definitely a battle for area control. How about board games? Some of those could be thought of as glorifying violence, lying, backstabbing, deceiving etcetera.

Chess is generally considered to be the ORIGINAL war game.

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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
i find that i won't mention it at work, even though i dont actually game,only model/paint, because of the stigma associated with it, and being in the armed forces, there are some less than intelligent folk who would jump upon it, although 2 or 3 of my good friends from my unit know that i do, and dont say anything about it. overall, i think stuff like this that would be steroetypically 'nerdy' are becoming less so nowadays. retro videogames, comic books etc, are becoming more and more in vogue..and i think this is definately in part due to tattooing and its growing popularit y. a great number of the tattooists on my instagram also paint/play warhammer. and tattoos themselves are perfect for that sort of scene..demons, swords through heads, skulls, sexy ladies... whats not to love? and with that, all the people who are getting into tattoos are starting to find that sort of thing cool..and thus, the similar things also open up to them.


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 Kill3RKiD wrote:
I don't tell people I play this game. It's just something I like to do on my own. Whenever I have house parties I throw a sheet over the painting table. It cracks me up. What's funny though, is this chick was in the room just chilling out and she must have peeped under the sheet and she came out into the main room where the party was cranking and she was like "Hey! You paint Warhammer!" and I was like *runs over, grabs it off her and tucking into my pocket* "Oi shush, I don't want everyone to know I'm a nerd." and she was like "Your painting is really good." - then I was like, mmm, yea boy. Warhammer skillz pull da ladies.

i feel like youve left this story unfinished..


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ps, if any fellow brits want to see a good looking gal, go to the oxford street store in london, theres a very pretty lady who works there

Later that nigh she summoned the courage to tell me she contracted herpes a few months prior. I decided not to go there. She felt undesirable but I explained that I've never been a gambler and wasn't prepared to expose myself to a lifelong STD.

well, never let the truth get in the way and all that