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How then would they break off?

Aenarian wrote:I was thinking about making a conversion from the Death Korps Officer model, which would have the added benefit of giving me a standard I could use on the mounted command squad, as well as some additional infantry. But I wish that they still made the mounted Commissar.

I saw a similar conversion using the Company Commander and it looked awesome! I'll try to find a link. I might just have to do this.

Singleton Mosby wrote:

 Crabbit wrote:
It would be double sweet if FW released a DR Colonel model to make that DRCCS really pop!

If they would make one I will most certainly buy it. However, for now I will use the mounted commisar for the role. It is a suitable 'commanding' model, and paying Krieg you've no need for commisars anyways.

Alternatively you can always convert a command model yourself by replacing the upper part of the Rider's torso with that of the infantry platoon commander. I am at the moment working on such a model and it looks quite nice with the sword and pistol in hand. I'll post some pics as soon as I have somethion.

The Krieg mounted commisar is an awesome model! Alas, I do not have one and they only appear on ebay ever so often for $$$.

I'm thinking a conversion from either the company or platoon commander would be a fun project. Guess I need to get some more Death Riders!


On another note, while trying to find the DRCC conversion I stumbled on this and thought I would share... Fething awesome!

Okay, that picture made me rummage in my bitbox straight away. How awesome!

This picture is quite close to what I had envisioned, although with all the cool bits in green stuff.

That is a nice conversion!

I was thinking something more like this, minus the sawed-off:

 Crabbit wrote:
That is a nice conversion!

I was thinking something more like this, minus the sawed-off:

That's a very nice conversion and perhaps not even difficult to do. The only drawback is that there's something not right in the pose and that it's hard to get any 'action' in the model.

Here's a (very) WIP picture of my future platoon commander.

Well, that certainly is pretty effin' cool. Even better than what I had planned.

Here's the earlier clip for those interested:

I'm planning a less dramatic officer for my Death Riders. I'm going to use the binocular arm from the Leman Russ commander kit and add a command section pauldron. I originally wanted to use a spare sword arm, but it didn't look all that great when i removed the sword hilt from the body of the miniature. So that figure was more or less ruined as a result.


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Also I frequently take my miniatures with me on plane trips. I've found the KR double aluminium case works well as carry-on luggage on domestic flights. Magnetic bases and metal trays wouldn't work for me, and the size of the miniatures is also an issue, because I want to pack my collection as compactly as possible.

Singleton Mosby wrote:

 Crabbit wrote:
That is a nice conversion!

I was thinking something more like this, minus the sawed-off:

That's a very nice conversion and perhaps not even difficult to do. The only drawback is that there's something not right in the pose and that it's hard to get any 'action' in the model.

Here's a (very) WIP picture of my future platoon commander.

He looks great! I like the action pose too; looks like he's ready to do some serious buisness! Was it difficult matching the torso to the waist/legs?

Zingraff wrote:
I'm planning a less dramatic officer for my Death Riders. I'm going to use the binocular arm from the Leman Russ commander kit and add a command section pauldron. I originally wanted to use a spare sword arm, but it didn't look all that great when i removed the sword hilt from the body of the miniature. So that figure was more or less ruined as a result.

That sounds like a cool conversion too. Any WIP pics?

This is how I plan to create my officer:


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I think it works out pretty well. In the background story, the Death Riders are mainly used for reconnaissance, so it makes sense that the officer in charge would be equipped with binoculars.

Zingraff wrote:
This is how I plan to create my officer:


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I think it works out pretty well. In the background story, the Death Riders are mainly used for reconnaissance, so it makes sense that the officer in charge would be equipped with binoculars.

Very cool! You guys are giving me some great ideas!

I always thought it would be fitting if DRs had special rules according to their reconnaissance role in the fluff. Maybe Scout, Infiltrate, and/or Outflank?

Scout and Infiltrate yes. I think they're too frail for Outflank.

Zingraff wrote:
I'm really interested in using Death Riders in my army, what's holding me back is that I don't know how to transport them.

The miniatures are so slender and delicate, and with an added lance they just take up so much room.

I have 15 models that I bought less than a year ago, and I've worked on most of them, but what I can't figure out is whether I should glue the lances in place or not. If I make the lances detachable, the miniatures would be easier to store for transport, but the lances might fall off too easily when playing.

I actually magnetized the torsos onto the legs of my rough riders (mostly because it was easier that the arms) that way if anything gets close enough to trying to break a lance it simply pops off the whole torso. Also makes them easier to transport since they are not as tall. I had considered the arms but i always figured gravity would make short work of them. Plus it lets me position them more dynamically on the fly!

Note: I don't have death riders, I am using Victoria Miniatures Rough Riders mounted on Cold Ones.

 Crabbit wrote:

Singleton Mosby wrote:

Here's a (very) WIP picture of my future platoon commander.

He looks great! I like the action pose too; looks like he's ready to do some serious buisness! Was it difficult matching the torso to the waist/legs?

Not at all. They two parts fit together easily. I've created the legs this evening and will make some pictures tomorrow.

@Zingraff : that's a nice officer. I've also made one with binoculars and put a lance strapped to his back, seeing how good your model looks I guess I will take off the lance after all.

Thank you! The lack of a lance means the model isn't strictly WYSIWYG, but on the other hand, almost every other model in that squad will have lances. And I think my opponents will appreciate being able to tell which model is the officer.


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And it's a really easy conversion anyone can do with the right parts.

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Quick question.

Does the DR Company Commander in the DR detachment get an invul save? If so, what is it?

He has a normal refractor field

Ok, thanks. I was hoping so. The DRCCS seems like a rather fragile unit to have your warlord in. It would have been nice if the regimental banners from IA12 were included to buff.

I guess. But compare it to a standard Death Korps Company Command Squad:

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Two wounds and Carapace Armour standard
Decent melee options (+1A and Huntings lances)
Feel No Pain (5+ for Commander/6+ for everyone else)
Cavalry + Augmented Mounts

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Tougher to conceal
Basically zero firepower (laspistols and perhaps a bolt/plasma pistol)

I'd say it's a pretty good deal for 50 points premium over a normal DKCCS, but then again, the DKCCS is 20-30 points overpriced at the least. It's certainly not the best unit to have the warlord in, but you really don't have much choice in the Siege Regiment List. The Quartermaster Cadre is one of the most fragile HQ I can think of, and the Commissar-General is still your run-of-the-mill Lord Commissar, apart from him being unable to join a unit if he wants a seat in a transport.

Can you give the DR CCS/PCS leader a demo charge still?

DOOMONYOU wrote:
Can you give the DR CCS/PCS leader a demo charge still?

Yes. Not that you'll want to very often, since one of the best things about cavalry is that you can make long charges and don't have to get within 3-4" of your target in the shooting phase.

 Crabbit wrote:
Ok, thanks. I was hoping so. The DRCCS seems like a rather fragile unit to have your warlord in. It would have been nice if the regimental banners from IA12 were included to buff.

I agree with you there, you've to be cautious with them. However, they can be quite effective in a charge so that's at least something. On the other hand, who cares about a HQ

Here are some WIP pics on the progress of my Platoon/ Company commander.

Singleton Mosby wrote:

 Crabbit wrote:
Ok, thanks. I was hoping so. The DRCCS seems like a rather fragile unit to have your warlord in. It would have been nice if the regimental banners from IA12 were included to buff.

I agree with you there, you've to be cautious with them. However, they can be quite effective in a charge so that's at least something. On the other hand, who cares about a HQ

This is where the Banner of Martyrdom would be perfect!

Singleton Mosby wrote:
Here are some WIP pics on the progress of my Platoon/ Company commander.

Wow! He looks awesome! Great job! I really like the action pose of the horse. The mechanical legs look great and give it that extra grim/determined appearance. More WIP are encouraged!

Had a PM request for Zhufor, so here we go

Chaos Lord, bonus WS, bonus S, Eternal Warrior, Adamantium Will, Furious Charge. Claw is a PF with Assault 3 storm bolter. Chainaxe is AP4 +2A. He doesn't have the mad skillz of Grimnar so chooses one or the other (and the Chainaxe is 2-handed so no +1A making Specialist Weapon on the Claw redundant). Legendary Fighter Warlord Trait. Still gets his bodyguard of Khorne Terminators as part of his HQ choice, he has to deploy with them but doesn't have to stay with them so gets full use of his IC status. Same price as Kharn (or close).

I've lost track of this topic but if anyone still has questions they want answering pop them up.

Random question guys, in regards to the attachments can I take them solely by themselves or do I have to take something else with them like a Combined Arms Detachment?

 gmaleron wrote:
Random question guys, in regards to the attachments can I take them solely by themselves or do I have to take something else with them like a Combined Arms Detachment?

They are detachments like any other detachment.

Thanks but that doesn't answer my question, I've only ever played with CAD, wanting to know if these follow the same rules or do I have to treat it like an allied detachment and have a CAD primary detachment with this as well?

You treat it like a CAD, but change the rules for the detachment as applicable (e.g. instead of troops gaining Objective Secured, Death Riders will etc.) and change the unit requirements (ex. 1 HQ and 2 Fast Attack instead of 1 HQ and 2 Troops). So there is no need for a CAD detachment.

Unfortunately, the DR detachment makes the normal siege list seem instantly obsolete. When would you ever want to take infantry over DRs? Plus, more HS slots in the DR detachment. Would you run it as a static artillery gunline with good counter-assault, a mobile strike force with LRBT backup, or something altogether different?

On another note, do Thunderer siege tanks still lack the Heavy vehicle rule?