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Lionheart713 wrote:
 GoonBandito wrote:
Creed stands alone on the ruined surface of Cadia, and watches as the last Mechanicum ship lifts off into the sky. Cadia was now little more than a graveyard. He felt his strength ebbing away, as his wounds finally caught up with him. The storm parts before him, but not a Demon stands before him. A metal giant in a scaled cloak. Creed's panicked shot goes wide as iridescent polygons flicker on the figures upraised palm, "Ursarkar E. Creed. This need not be your end. Eternity awaits." The giant's laughter follows Creed into darkness....
Who might this be?

-Metal giant
-Scaled cloak
-Doesn’t want Creed to die/wants to keep him around for eternity
-Laughing

Trazyn.

Actually, looking through that link, it seems he's been pretty busy in other armies books.
Hadn't been aware of this.
What else has he been up to lately?
(I know he's known for disguising himself as people from other races and using Mindshackle Scarabs on people around the galaxy just to be able to score his loot, but I never realized he was supposed to be making cameos in other books as much as he apparently has. He's now the best thing Ward did to the 'Crons, imo)

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So what I've learned, is that this really isn't the retcon of Eye of Terror many feared/claimed.

If anything, the outcome is far worse for the Imperium. Cadia is gone (its ambiguous whether it's about to become a new Daemon World, or if it didn't survive its cataclysm?). Abdaddon is ascendant. The Phalanx needs a lot of shop time. The Eye is expanding (and seemingly, has a corridor all the way to Terra, thanks to the preceding 12 Black Crusades)

And that's something interesting, it seems the Pylons aren't just on Cadia, and indeed never have been. Instead they may be dotted about the Galaxy as a whiole, preventing warp breaches from occurring, or at least spreading.

Which raises some interesting questions. How big can a warp breach become without their influence? Is Abaddon barking up the wrong tree with this, taking it purely on faith that The Eye will spread a tendril all the way to Holy Terra? How much does it actually matter to his wider goal?

And is it possible for new Pylons to be erected? Seems it's well beyond the Mechanicus - but Eldar and Necron? Who knows? Can they be shipped in from other planets to reinforce key areas?

Really looking forward to the next instalment,


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 buddha wrote:
Trazyn throwing poke balls full of imperial soldiers is officially the best piece of fluff ever.



Yup! I really enjoyed that bit. Plus, it's given me a new angle on my planned birthday Apocalypse game in June (which we'll be playing at Warhammer World, because Birthday).

Originally planned as a Heresy event, Trazyn's shenanigans have now laid a seed for a potential 30k/40k mashup, especially as my Heresy force is a Loyalist Iron Warrior Garrison. All I need add to their description is 'that mysteriously disappeared, with no trace of their fate'

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Is there any guess what the hell is in in the Ad Mec stasis chamber that is making Abbaddon so crazy about it?
   
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Iracundus wrote:
That was exactly what happened though with that last Eldar/Deathwatch release. When given the choice between working with the Eldar or letting Chaos take over the galaxy, the Deathwatch member chose the latter and shot the Eldar.

Of course that kind of facepalming stupidity is probably also why the Eldar don't think humans can be trusted to handle the truth and instead have to be manipulated.


Brainwashed super soldier who has spent decades hunting and killing Xenos, doesn't trust a member of a species notorious for deception, when its allies are currently killing the local human population as a distraction for what ever warp spawned witchcraft they are up to? I is shocked
   
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 DalinCriid wrote:
Is there any guess what the hell is in in the Ad Mec stasis chamber that is making Abbaddon so crazy about it?


All we know is that its a name that he hasn't heard since Davin.

So far the guesses are Anathame, Loken, or something we haven't heard of.
   
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 DalinCriid wrote:
Is there any guess what the hell is in in the Ad Mec stasis chamber that is making Abbaddon so crazy about it?


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 TheIronCrow wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
Is there any guess what the hell is in in the Ad Mec stasis chamber that is making Abbaddon so crazy about it?


All we know is that its a name that he hasn't heard since Davin.

So far the guesses are Anathame, Loken, or something we haven't heard of.

My first thoughts were back to the events in False Gods, and I was racking my brain trying to figure out what it could be (hence why I asked for speculation ). But then I realised, that wasn't when Horus "first stepped foot on Davin". Davin was originally brought to compliance in the 143rd year of the Great Crusade (60 years before Horus was struck down by the Anathame Blade on Davin's Moon) by the Luna Wolves and the Imperial Heralds, led by Horus himself - that's when he would have first stepped foot on Davin. This is where the concept of the Warrior Lodges (aka the Davinite Lodges) came from - being a key part of the tribes of Davin's cultures, and Horus being impressed with their courage in the face of a vastly superior foe. Davin was then left in the hands of the Imperial Heralds for re-education into the Imperial Truth, and clearly in the years between the XVIIth Legion - now known as the Word Bearers - had cultivated a following of the Primordial Truth amongst its tribes instead.

Now admittedly that's a rather obscure piece of fluff, but perhaps Abaddon is thinking back to something/someone to do with the original Warrior Lodges or the Word Bearers involvement in them that led to the path to Chaos?


 
   
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 GoonBandito wrote:
 TheIronCrow wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
Is there any guess what the hell is in in the Ad Mec stasis chamber that is making Abbaddon so crazy about it?


All we know is that its a name that he hasn't heard since Davin.

So far the guesses are Anathame, Loken, or something we haven't heard of.

My first thoughts were back to the events in False Gods, and I was racking my brain trying to figure out what it could be (hence why I asked for speculation ). But then I realised, that wasn't when Horus "first stepped foot on Davin". Davin was originally brought to compliance in the 143rd year of the Great Crusade (60 years before Horus was struck down by the Anathame Blade on Davin's Moon) by the Luna Wolves and the Imperial Heralds, led by Horus himself - that's when he would have first stepped foot on Davin. This is where the concept of the Warrior Lodges (aka the Davinite Lodges) came from - being a key part of the tribes of Davin's cultures, and Horus being impressed with their courage in the face of a vastly superior foe. Davin was then left in the hands of the Imperial Heralds for re-education into the Imperial Truth, and clearly in the years between the XVIIth Legion - now known as the Word Bearers - had cultivated a following of the Primordial Truth amongst its tribes instead.

Now admittedly that's a rather obscure piece of fluff, but perhaps Abaddon is thinking back to something/someone to do with the original Warrior Lodges or the Word Bearers involvement in them that led to the path to Chaos?

Sooo Eerebus? He was one of the architects of the betrayal... but arent he on the same side as Abby?
   
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Also why would Erebus be in stasis and in the hands of the Admec? If anyone in the know (in the imperium) got their hands on that corrupted git, there would be some serious purging happening one would think.
   
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 gummyofallbears wrote:
wait wait wait, what happened to the firehowlers???

As the main Great Company I play, I will be pretty angry to get screwed over again.

I like the fact that they are advancing the story though, not as bad as I thought.


All wulfin. Pretty much wrecked/dead.

 
   
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 chalkobob wrote:
Also why would Erebus be in stasis and in the hands of the Admec? If anyone in the know (in the imperium) got their hands on that corrupted git, there would be some serious purging happening one would think.

Then why it would be Loken? From an audio book it is known that Garo find him on Istvaan III and make him part of Deathwatch. Could it be Roboute Guilliman if GW plan to bring him back, but then I cannot recall Abbadon to have any personal agenda with him. Ultramarines have their official hate to the Word Bearers... I am actually thinking of Euphrati Keeler here. She is the first Saint of the Imperium and what happens to her is uknown after she joins the sisters of silence on the Moon of Earth.
   
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 DalinCriid wrote:
 chalkobob wrote:
Also why would Erebus be in stasis and in the hands of the Admec? If anyone in the know (in the imperium) got their hands on that corrupted git, there would be some serious purging happening one would think.

Then why it would be Loken? From an audio book it is known that Garo find him on Istvaan III and make him part of Deathwatch. Could it be Roboute Guilliman if GW plan to bring him back, but then I cannot recall Abbadon to have any personal agenda with him. Ultramarines have their official hate to the Word Bearers... I am actually thinking of Euphrati Keeler here. She is the first Saint of the Imperium and what happens to her is uknown after she joins the sisters of silence on the Moon of Earth.


Guilliman has been in Ultramar for a very long time in his stasis field. That one is guaranteed not to be in Crawl's vault.

More than whatever Crawl is carrying, I'm dying of curiosity concerning the new Eldar: That red armored one, a mix between Eldar and Dark Eldar, uuhh, I want to know more, so very, very badly.

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I know everyone is saying Yriel, but i'm hoping it's some kind of ancient pre-fall Eldar warrior that was awoken from a slumber somewhere. Unlikely though, still I can hope.

P.S I really don't like Yriel
   
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 TheDraconicLord wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
 chalkobob wrote:
Also why would Erebus be in stasis and in the hands of the Admec? If anyone in the know (in the imperium) got their hands on that corrupted git, there would be some serious purging happening one would think.

Then why it would be Loken? From an audio book it is known that Garo find him on Istvaan III and make him part of Deathwatch. Could it be Roboute Guilliman if GW plan to bring him back, but then I cannot recall Abbadon to have any personal agenda with him. Ultramarines have their official hate to the Word Bearers... I am actually thinking of Euphrati Keeler here. She is the first Saint of the Imperium and what happens to her is uknown after she joins the sisters of silence on the Moon of Earth.


Guilliman has been in Ultramar for a very long time in his stasis field. That one is guaranteed not to be in Crawl's vault.

More than whatever Crawl is carrying, I'm dying of curiosity concerning the new Eldar: That red armored one, a mix between Eldar and Dark Eldar, uuhh, I want to know more, so very, very badly.


I think it (plus the hint on the Warhammer channel) it's implying that he's an Exodite.
   
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Thanks a lot for the summary, GoonBandito!

I don't know what to think of the possibility of Great Alliances in 40K. I always liked the "yes, the 'not that bad' factions could possibly defeat chaos if they weren't too narrow-minded and/or arrogant to team-up." feeling. It just alludes to my sometimes misanthropic point of view. To have an Order Alliance or something like that doesn't fit to a dystopian fiction.

Could'nt that metal giant with a scaled cloak be a Alpha Legion Marine? Yes, Trazyn seems obvious, but why give us such an obvious hint? Seems to easy...
   
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 Octavius Vorrak wrote:

Could'nt that metal giant with a scaled cloak be a Alpha Legion Marine? Yes, Trazyn seems obvious, but why give us such an obvious hint? Seems to easy...


Leading up to it, the book describes Trazyn as being hunting for a person to bring home from the battle directly before this happens, handling a Tesseract Labyrinth, and uses almost the exact words verbatim to describe him/the Labyrinth earlier in the book as it does in this passage with the scaled cloak bits.
   
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HuskyWarhammer wrote:
 TheDraconicLord wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
 chalkobob wrote:
Also why would Erebus be in stasis and in the hands of the Admec? If anyone in the know (in the imperium) got their hands on that corrupted git, there would be some serious purging happening one would think.

Then why it would be Loken? From an audio book it is known that Garo find him on Istvaan III and make him part of Deathwatch. Could it be Roboute Guilliman if GW plan to bring him back, but then I cannot recall Abbadon to have any personal agenda with him. Ultramarines have their official hate to the Word Bearers... I am actually thinking of Euphrati Keeler here. She is the first Saint of the Imperium and what happens to her is uknown after she joins the sisters of silence on the Moon of Earth.


Guilliman has been in Ultramar for a very long time in his stasis field. That one is guaranteed not to be in Crawl's vault.

More than whatever Crawl is carrying, I'm dying of curiosity concerning the new Eldar: That red armored one, a mix between Eldar and Dark Eldar, uuhh, I want to know more, so very, very badly.


I think it (plus the hint on the Warhammer channel) it's implying that he's an Exodite.

Well I wish they could go im depth why Eldar and Dark Eldar are teaming up to aid the Imperials... What is driving them to do that? What kind of negotiations they've been tru with Commorgah, how they convised Vect to join them. etc etc. Now I can see Necron logic. They want the eye of terror shut so the Psychic races like Eldar and Humans can be weakened aldo Tarzyn want's to capture Abbaddon.

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 DalinCriid wrote:
HuskyWarhammer wrote:
 TheDraconicLord wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
 chalkobob wrote:
Also why would Erebus be in stasis and in the hands of the Admec? If anyone in the know (in the imperium) got their hands on that corrupted git, there would be some serious purging happening one would think.

Then why it would be Loken? From an audio book it is known that Garo find him on Istvaan III and make him part of Deathwatch. Could it be Roboute Guilliman if GW plan to bring him back, but then I cannot recall Abbadon to have any personal agenda with him. Ultramarines have their official hate to the Word Bearers... I am actually thinking of Euphrati Keeler here. She is the first Saint of the Imperium and what happens to her is uknown after she joins the sisters of silence on the Moon of Earth.


Guilliman has been in Ultramar for a very long time in his stasis field. That one is guaranteed not to be in Crawl's vault.

More than whatever Crawl is carrying, I'm dying of curiosity concerning the new Eldar: That red armored one, a mix between Eldar and Dark Eldar, uuhh, I want to know more, so very, very badly.


I think it (plus the hint on the Warhammer channel) it's implying that he's an Exodite.

Well I wish they could go im depth why Eldar and Dark Eldar are teaming up to aid the Imperials... What is driving them to do that? What kind of negotiations they've been tru with Commorgah, how they convised Vect to join them. etc etc. Now I can see Necron logic. They want the eye of terror shut so the Psychic races like Eldar and Humans can be weakened aldo Tarzyn want's to capture Abbaddon.

I don't see how the Eye of Terror closing weakens anyone who isn't Chaos.

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pm713 wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
HuskyWarhammer wrote:
 TheDraconicLord wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
 chalkobob wrote:
Also why would Erebus be in stasis and in the hands of the Admec? If anyone in the know (in the imperium) got their hands on that corrupted git, there would be some serious purging happening one would think.

Then why it would be Loken? From an audio book it is known that Garo find him on Istvaan III and make him part of Deathwatch. Could it be Roboute Guilliman if GW plan to bring him back, but then I cannot recall Abbadon to have any personal agenda with him. Ultramarines have their official hate to the Word Bearers... I am actually thinking of Euphrati Keeler here. She is the first Saint of the Imperium and what happens to her is uknown after she joins the sisters of silence on the Moon of Earth.


Guilliman has been in Ultramar for a very long time in his stasis field. That one is guaranteed not to be in Crawl's vault.

More than whatever Crawl is carrying, I'm dying of curiosity concerning the new Eldar: That red armored one, a mix between Eldar and Dark Eldar, uuhh, I want to know more, so very, very badly.


I think it (plus the hint on the Warhammer channel) it's implying that he's an Exodite.

Well I wish they could go im depth why Eldar and Dark Eldar are teaming up to aid the Imperials... What is driving them to do that? What kind of negotiations they've been tru with Commorgah, how they convised Vect to join them. etc etc. Now I can see Necron logic. They want the eye of terror shut so the Psychic races like Eldar and Humans can be weakened aldo Tarzyn want's to capture Abbaddon.

I don't see how the Eye of Terror closing weakens anyone who isn't Chaos.


Closing the Eye would only screw with Chaos.... but if enough Cadian Pylons were placed around and activated---- all warp powers could be shut down. So the Necrons would win the long war with the Eldar (without their powers they are nothing in comparison), and the Imperium suffers massively due to lack of functional Astropaths etc.

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 Otto Weston wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
HuskyWarhammer wrote:
 TheDraconicLord wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
 chalkobob wrote:
Also why would Erebus be in stasis and in the hands of the Admec? If anyone in the know (in the imperium) got their hands on that corrupted git, there would be some serious purging happening one would think.

Then why it would be Loken? From an audio book it is known that Garo find him on Istvaan III and make him part of Deathwatch. Could it be Roboute Guilliman if GW plan to bring him back, but then I cannot recall Abbadon to have any personal agenda with him. Ultramarines have their official hate to the Word Bearers... I am actually thinking of Euphrati Keeler here. She is the first Saint of the Imperium and what happens to her is uknown after she joins the sisters of silence on the Moon of Earth.


Guilliman has been in Ultramar for a very long time in his stasis field. That one is guaranteed not to be in Crawl's vault.

More than whatever Crawl is carrying, I'm dying of curiosity concerning the new Eldar: That red armored one, a mix between Eldar and Dark Eldar, uuhh, I want to know more, so very, very badly.


I think it (plus the hint on the Warhammer channel) it's implying that he's an Exodite.

Well I wish they could go im depth why Eldar and Dark Eldar are teaming up to aid the Imperials... What is driving them to do that? What kind of negotiations they've been tru with Commorgah, how they convised Vect to join them. etc etc. Now I can see Necron logic. They want the eye of terror shut so the Psychic races like Eldar and Humans can be weakened aldo Tarzyn want's to capture Abbaddon.

I don't see how the Eye of Terror closing weakens anyone who isn't Chaos.


Closing the Eye would only screw with Chaos.... but if enough Cadian Pylons were placed around and activated---- all warp powers could be shut down. So the Necrons would win the long war with the Eldar (without their powers they are nothing in comparison), and the Imperium suffers massively due to lack of functional Astropaths etc.
You'd have to place them all over the Galaxy for that so it's a pretty long shot. It's like saying if the Eldar place enough Firehearts they'll be the only faction left.

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 DalinCriid wrote:
HuskyWarhammer wrote:
 TheDraconicLord wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
 chalkobob wrote:
Also why would Erebus be in stasis and in the hands of the Admec? If anyone in the know (in the imperium) got their hands on that corrupted git, there would be some serious purging happening one would think.

Then why it would be Loken? From an audio book it is known that Garo find him on Istvaan III and make him part of Deathwatch. Could it be Roboute Guilliman if GW plan to bring him back, but then I cannot recall Abbadon to have any personal agenda with him. Ultramarines have their official hate to the Word Bearers... I am actually thinking of Euphrati Keeler here. She is the first Saint of the Imperium and what happens to her is uknown after she joins the sisters of silence on the Moon of Earth.


Guilliman has been in Ultramar for a very long time in his stasis field. That one is guaranteed not to be in Crawl's vault.

More than whatever Crawl is carrying, I'm dying of curiosity concerning the new Eldar: That red armored one, a mix between Eldar and Dark Eldar, uuhh, I want to know more, so very, very badly.


I think it (plus the hint on the Warhammer channel) it's implying that he's an Exodite.

Well I wish they could go im depth why Eldar and Dark Eldar are teaming up to aid the Imperials... What is driving them to do that? What kind of negotiations they've been tru with Commorgah, how they convised Vect to join them. etc etc. Now I can see Necron logic. They want the eye of terror shut so the Psychic races like Eldar and Humans can be weakened aldo Tarzyn want's to capture Abbaddon.


Well, in the book Valedor, where prince Yriel teams up with the crafworlds AND Dark Eldar to destroy hive fleet Leviathan before they merge with the remnants of HF Kraken, creating "super-tyranids" that'd devour the galaxy, there's a vision of a giant battlefield, with Eldar from all craftworlds, exodites, Dark Eldar, MANKIND and other races standing united. Gods, long thought dead walking, all against legions of demons: The Rhana Dandra, the Final Battle.

Heck, it's Veilwalker who shows Yiriel this. Veilwalker has been working her ass off!

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Which sword did Fulgrim use to drop Guilliman?

Cause if it was in fact the Anathame, the Harlequins might have the cure for its effects.

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pm713 wrote:
 Otto Weston wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
HuskyWarhammer wrote:
 TheDraconicLord wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
 chalkobob wrote:
Also why would Erebus be in stasis and in the hands of the Admec? If anyone in the know (in the imperium) got their hands on that corrupted git, there would be some serious purging happening one would think.

Then why it would be Loken? From an audio book it is known that Garo find him on Istvaan III and make him part of Deathwatch. Could it be Roboute Guilliman if GW plan to bring him back, but then I cannot recall Abbadon to have any personal agenda with him. Ultramarines have their official hate to the Word Bearers... I am actually thinking of Euphrati Keeler here. She is the first Saint of the Imperium and what happens to her is uknown after she joins the sisters of silence on the Moon of Earth.


Guilliman has been in Ultramar for a very long time in his stasis field. That one is guaranteed not to be in Crawl's vault.

More than whatever Crawl is carrying, I'm dying of curiosity concerning the new Eldar: That red armored one, a mix between Eldar and Dark Eldar, uuhh, I want to know more, so very, very badly.


I think it (plus the hint on the Warhammer channel) it's implying that he's an Exodite.

Well I wish they could go im depth why Eldar and Dark Eldar are teaming up to aid the Imperials... What is driving them to do that? What kind of negotiations they've been tru with Commorgah, how they convised Vect to join them. etc etc. Now I can see Necron logic. They want the eye of terror shut so the Psychic races like Eldar and Humans can be weakened aldo Tarzyn want's to capture Abbaddon.

I don't see how the Eye of Terror closing weakens anyone who isn't Chaos.


Closing the Eye would only screw with Chaos.... but if enough Cadian Pylons were placed around and activated---- all warp powers could be shut down. So the Necrons would win the long war with the Eldar (without their powers they are nothing in comparison), and the Imperium suffers massively due to lack of functional Astropaths etc.
You'd have to place them all over the Galaxy for that so it's a pretty long shot. It's like saying if the Eldar place enough Firehearts they'll be the only faction left.


We already know there WAS at least a chain of them stretching from Cadia towards Earth (Abaddon's plan being to spread the eye down this channel of destroyed pylon planets to Terra). Considering that the Eye didn't exist back when the Pylons were built by the Necrons and Terra wasn't even a backwater planet to them --- the existence of this chain means that the Pylons likely do exist across most of the Galaxy.

Potentially they only require proper activation --- like when Trazyn actually started shrinking the Eye and drove Psykers mad due to the lack of Warp presence on Cadia (in the new book).

   
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Last I checked the Pylons were only on Cadia.

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 TheDraconicLord wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
HuskyWarhammer wrote:
 TheDraconicLord wrote:
 DalinCriid wrote:
 chalkobob wrote:
Also why would Erebus be in stasis and in the hands of the Admec? If anyone in the know (in the imperium) got their hands on that corrupted git, there would be some serious purging happening one would think.

Then why it would be Loken? From an audio book it is known that Garo find him on Istvaan III and make him part of Deathwatch. Could it be Roboute Guilliman if GW plan to bring him back, but then I cannot recall Abbadon to have any personal agenda with him. Ultramarines have their official hate to the Word Bearers... I am actually thinking of Euphrati Keeler here. She is the first Saint of the Imperium and what happens to her is uknown after she joins the sisters of silence on the Moon of Earth.


Guilliman has been in Ultramar for a very long time in his stasis field. That one is guaranteed not to be in Crawl's vault.

More than whatever Crawl is carrying, I'm dying of curiosity concerning the new Eldar: That red armored one, a mix between Eldar and Dark Eldar, uuhh, I want to know more, so very, very badly.


I think it (plus the hint on the Warhammer channel) it's implying that he's an Exodite.

Well I wish they could go im depth why Eldar and Dark Eldar are teaming up to aid the Imperials... What is driving them to do that? What kind of negotiations they've been tru with Commorgah, how they convised Vect to join them. etc etc. Now I can see Necron logic. They want the eye of terror shut so the Psychic races like Eldar and Humans can be weakened aldo Tarzyn want's to capture Abbaddon.


Well, in the book Valedor, where prince Yriel teams up with the crafworlds AND Dark Eldar to destroy hive fleet Leviathan before they merge with the remnants of HF Kraken, creating "super-tyranids" that'd devour the galaxy, there's a vision of a giant battlefield, with Eldar from all craftworlds, exodites, Dark Eldar, MANKIND and other races standing united. Gods, long thought dead walking, all against legions of demons: The Rhana Dandra, the Final Battle.

Heck, it's Veilwalker who shows Yiriel this. Veilwalker has been working her ass off!


In the Harlequin codex, it references several times how they're the neutral/diplomatic Eldar faction and how they've arranged Craftworld/Dark alliances in the past, so it's not unheard of.
   
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Fall of Cadia says that more planets have them and that each Crusade Abaddon has been destroying some of them. Apparently Cadia was the only world with functioning Pylons left.
   
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Last I checked the Pylons were only on Cadia.

Did you miss the part where Cawl was shown them on the other planet? (With the fight with the Orks?)

 
   
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Still a better story than... Actually no. That's godawful even compared to sparkling vampires.

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Also why would Erebus be in stasis and in the hands of the Admec? If anyone in the know (in the imperium) got their hands on that corrupted git, there would be some serious purging happening one would think.

Then why it would be Loken? From an audio book it is known that Garo find him on Istvaan III and make him part of Deathwatch. Could it be Roboute Guilliman if GW plan to bring him back, but then I cannot recall Abbadon to have any personal agenda with him. Ultramarines have their official hate to the Word Bearers... I am actually thinking of Euphrati Keeler here. She is the first Saint of the Imperium and what happens to her is uknown after she joins the sisters of silence on the Moon of Earth.


Guilliman has been in Ultramar for a very long time in his stasis field. That one is guaranteed not to be in Crawl's vault.

More than whatever Crawl is carrying, I'm dying of curiosity concerning the new Eldar: That red armored one, a mix between Eldar and Dark Eldar, uuhh, I want to know more, so very, very badly.


I think it (plus the hint on the Warhammer channel) it's implying that he's an Exodite.

Well I wish they could go im depth why Eldar and Dark Eldar are teaming up to aid the Imperials... What is driving them to do that? What kind of negotiations they've been tru with Commorgah, how they convised Vect to join them. etc etc. Now I can see Necron logic. They want the eye of terror shut so the Psychic races like Eldar and Humans can be weakened aldo Tarzyn want's to capture Abbaddon.


Well, in the book Valedor, where prince Yriel teams up with the crafworlds AND Dark Eldar to destroy hive fleet Leviathan before they merge with the remnants of HF Kraken, creating "super-tyranids" that'd devour the galaxy, there's a vision of a giant battlefield, with Eldar from all craftworlds, exodites, Dark Eldar, MANKIND and other races standing united. Gods, long thought dead walking, all against legions of demons: The Rhana Dandra, the Final Battle.

Heck, it's Veilwalker who shows Yiriel this. Veilwalker has been working her ass off!


In the Harlequin codex, it references several times how they're the neutral/diplomatic Eldar faction and how they've arranged Craftworld/Dark alliances in the past, so it's not unheard of.

Oh, yeah, Emperor socks! I should have known that this is explained in some book released previously or 10 years ago
   
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pm713 wrote:
Last I checked the Pylons were only on Cadia.

Did you miss the part where Cawl was shown them on the other planet? (With the fight with the Orks?)


Yeah, Crawl connects the dots and understand Abaddon's "failures" were several surgical strikes across the millenia that destroyed the Pylons in the other planets.
Crawl (and we) have no idea if Cadia's were the last ones, but considering how the Eye of Terror began expanding as soon as they were destroyed, we can assume they were at least the last active ones.

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