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She got a dossier at the same time as the Guija pilot, si I'm sure she will get a miniature.

 -Loki- wrote:
She got a dossier at the same time as the Guija pilot, si I'm sure she will get a miniature.

She also got a render, so yeah. It's a given that she's coming.

Earliest would be a March reveal/April release. Next month-- February reveal/March release is slated to be:
Yu Jing Starter-- Yu Jing
Hassassin Govad HMG-- Haqqislam
Moderators from Bakunin-- Nomads
Sukuel Commandos-- Tohaa
Tech-Bees-- Pan-Oceania

Depending upon how the moderatrices look, it may be an even more contentious time than right now with the Guijia Pilot.

Really, I just want that Govad HMG to be fantastic. And the Lollipop moderatrix. We have seen no renders of the Moderator box though, have we?


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And at some point soon we should see the renders for this Anti-Establishment team. The Bit and Switch
etc...

 Kanluwen wrote:


Guijia Pilot preview from Guerilla Games.

I guess we're going to have to sculpt our own pole.

 Red Harvest wrote:
Really, I just want that Govad HMG to be fantastic.

The render certainly looks great.

 TalonZahn wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
Thats a horrible pose and a waste of a release slot. I miss well posed models since they started digital sculpting.

I found Kans Sock Puppet account!




Also, before the BEWB design/armor complaints come out, just paint it like a shirt.

You could paint as a shirt but it would still look gak due to the trying not to piss herself pose.

No I am not anyones puppet, I do agree with Kan on something's though and disagree on others.

I think Infinity did suffer from scale creep and I am unlucky enough to have a Corr squad full of child soldiers.

T&A don't bother me as cheesecake is not an issue, I do think HI with there tits hanging out is dumb.

I think CB rushed the roll out of digital sculpts before they were ready leading to the whole rage fist/tactical rock issue.

I do think CB need to look at there production capabilities because they are a bit of a joke.

Also seriously you think that pilot models is ok? I am not talking about the outfit or the lack of it, or even what the intention of the pose was. I am simply saying that the model due to the poor sulpting of the pose is trash, unless they were trying too say she needs the loo in which case they suceeded.

 General Annoyance wrote:
Fair enough - apart from this year's releases, I don't know anything about how regularly such models pop up. But as a newcomer browsing through the store, especially in the Nomads section where my new collection came from, it's difficult for me to be surprised at such models, or to understand why people who have been into Infinity way longer than I have are still surprised with them.

I've been into Infinity since Ice Storm came out, and I'll be honest - the cheesecake is what pulled me in. Actually, I don't really want to call it cheesecake, because that's not really fair. Infinity models are typically sexy without crossing the line to trashy (though a couple do), and they are very much in the style of something like Appleseed or Ghost in the Shell. In GitS, Major Kusanagi has been known to walk around in a thong leotard with thigh highs (or occasionally, much less). If GitS were released today, maybe it would be subject to the "only neckbeards like it" commentary, but I love that style. I love that Infinity pays homage to it without trying to copy it. Compare it to something like Relic Knights, which is aping a particular style without making it its own.

Anyway, I really think Infinity deserves major props for their character designs - I see where their inspirations came from, and hey, I loved those things too. I feel like, at this point, whining about a sexy Infinity model is a bit selfish. They don't understand what Infinity is going for, stylistically, and they aren't trying to. They just want to take the things they like about it and change the things they don't like, perhaps not realizing that the two are different sides of the same coin. You can't have an ORC Trooper without having a sexy TAG pilot, the same way that Evangelion wouldn't be Evangelion without Rei in her plug suit with bandages over one eye - the giant robots are just as fetishistic as the sexy women. In a way, it is a balancing agent that prevents the fiction from becoming too militaristic (and by that nature, somber and jingoistic). It makes it a little fun and distances it from works like Starship Troopers and the like, which stuff like 40k and Gates of Antares feel overly similar to. I saw the female models in the game and I thought Bubblegum Crisis, not VOTOMS, and that's a really important distinction for something like Infinity to make at a glance.

SeanDrake wrote:
Also seriously you think that pilot models is ok? I am not talking about the outfit or the lack of it, or even what the intention of the pose was. I am simply saying that the model due to the poor sulpting of the pose is trash, unless they were trying too say she needs the loo in which case they suceeded.

I'm considering buying a Guija so I can use it.

Can't wait for the next Yu Jing starter!

 master of ordinance wrote:
Am I the only one here who likes the TAG pilot?

Nope you're not, think it looks kind of cool (although would probably paint it with different hair colour). Of course helps that the TAG she comes from looks so damned awesome.

This kind of reaction to an unzipped top, I'm afraid to see what happens when another tech-bee pilot is revealed!

Hope Bagh Mari HMG is going to be as nice as that Govad.

 Pacific wrote:
This kind of reaction to an unzipped top, I'm afraid to see what happens when another tech-bee pilot is revealed!

Maybe they'll do a turnabout. I do expect Gecko pilots to be male and have more armour, although that does create a rather strong contrast.

You mean like this?


However, Geckos have Zero-G, so it does make sense they'd be fully enclosed.

I imagined it with a small shoulder, knee and ankle guards in addition to the above. Come to think of it, this could be plugged next to Terran Republic usual attire and it wouldn't look that off, I might have seen similar helmet in the shop.

 ImAGeek wrote:
You mean like this?


However, Geckos have Zero-G, so it does make sense they'd be fully enclosed.

Hmmm... I think I'll hold out to see how this model turns out. The Guijia pilot's legs are too goofy for me.

I've used a ninja model in the past to rep the pilot, since it had a similar "bodysuit " feel to it.

With all the TAG hooplah, can we get an update on the old szalamandra? It may be a great model, but it's woefully out of date.

I love that thing - as is!

Same with the Lizard.

But I suppose I wouldn't mind seeing updated versions - done right, of course!

 Alpharius wrote:
I love that thing - as is!

Same with the Lizard.

But I suppose I wouldn't mind seeing updated versions - done right, of course!

It needs an update for the current silhouette standards. It's currently shorter than a gecko.

Models not matching their silhouette isn't new though, even with new models.

I do not think we have any information about resculpting Szallamandra other than it will be done for sure, but no work has started on her yet.

Szalamandra is the reverse legged one with the guns mounter over the arms, right? Yeah, that thing needs a serious resculpt.

The new sniper shot:

Could be someone from PanOceania my bet is on Knauff (the Manga's promo miniature) since the style of the footwear is obviously similar and it's not the classic PanO base design.

 Barzam wrote:
Szalamandra is the reverse legged one with the guns mounter over the arms, right? Yeah, that thing needs a serious resculpt.

Szalamandra


Lizard


Love 'em!

If I'm honest, it was the Lizard that convinced me to start Nomads, but I do love that Szalamandra too!

New Releases.

Order Sergeants




Guijia Pilot




Haqqislam Starter Pack



Raicho pilot and something I don't know what the hell is supposed to be.




Miranda Ashcroft

Well, Raicho Pilot. Nice shooting pose, even if it is a bit of a B&B pose. Scindron looks suitably alien. We've already seen the Haqq starter, so setting it aside, Order Sergeants win, to my eyes. But there are some low cards in that hand (Ashcroft, Guijia Pilot...or Guijia pee-alot (alt pronunciation.).

Onto February. Govad HMG! The render, I cannot comment on. I've learned that lesson. Wait for the actual mini.

Is the Scindron the Sphinx pilot? Does this mean we will see PanO remote presence TAG pilots or do the combined just have really weak wi fi and the Scindron is actually only 30 ft away from the Sphinx at all times?

 plastictrees wrote:
Is the Scindron the Sphinx pilot? Does this mean we will see PanO remote presence TAG pilots or do the combined just have really weak wi fi and the Scindron is actually only 30 ft away from the Sphinx at all times?

We get only one that fits all of the TAG chassis. Although with its stats I hope we don't get to see it for a long time as there are more pressing miniatures that need a release. A box of 3x Tech Bees and crabbot would work somewhat I suppose.

 plastictrees wrote:
Is the Scindron the Sphinx pilot? Does this mean we will see PanO remote presence TAG pilots or do the combined just have really weak wi fi and the Scindron is actually only 30 ft away from the Sphinx at all times?

It's not a pilot, but rather it's a deployable "specialist bot" or some such nonsense.

Tagline can't die quick enough IMO.

Kanluwen wrote:
It's not a pilot, but rather it's a deployable "specialist bot" or some such nonsense.

Tagline can't die quick enough IMO.

I know you hate everything, but I'll bite on this one: why is this a bad thing? TAGs are generally considered to be a poor choice in most ITS missions, due to the emphasis on specialists+order efficiency. So Corvus Belli put what are in essence trial rules into ITS games, to see how a major boost to TAGs' utility in objective-based missions would pan out. What's wrong with that?

 I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
It's not a pilot, but rather it's a deployable "specialist bot" or some such nonsense.

Tagline can't die quick enough IMO.

I know you hate everything, but I'll bite on this one: why is this a bad thing? TAGs are generally considered to be a poor choice in most ITS missions, due to the emphasis on specialists+order efficiency. So Corvus Belli put what are in essence trial rules into ITS games, to see how a major boost to TAGs' utility in objective-based missions would pan out. What's wrong with that?

Because those trial rules are also mandating them add new models when there are still units/models that don't even have dossiers?

Add to it that these "trial rules" smack of things that got rumored for N3/HSN3 and it just seems more and more like they're desperate to do anything outside of actually balance their game.

Kanluwen wrote:
Because those trial rules are also mandating them add new models when there are still units/models that don't even have dossiers?

Add to it that these "trial rules" smack of things that got rumored for N3/HSN3 and it just seems more and more like they're desperate to do anything outside of actually balance their game.

What? Putting in new abilities for existing units which are considered sub-par is the very definition of balancing a game. Why are you putting trial rules in quotation marks? Rules have been added to a yearly tournament pack set of rules rather than to the core rulebooks.

EDIT: What, in your opinion, is the balance issue that they are ignoring? Your strength of feeling would indicate that it's a very serious imbalance, but most people I know consider Infinity a tightly balanced game.

What? Putting in new abilities for existing units which are considered sub-par is the very definition of balancing a game.

I have high doubts the new piloting rules will change the meta. I am curious to know, how much the pilots in the bootleg line sold and if sudden appearance of pilots isn't related to probable poor sales of that line. Personally would much prefer to see appropriate TAG to get the specialist rule and simply wouldn't have bothered with pilots. As it is, manned TAG seem to have gained a nice benefit, especially those who would prefer to be in mid - close range. Speaking from PanO side, most of my TAG want to be in long range, making any attempt at the mid - close range a rather questionable idea. Should I get there I have simply amazing WIP 10 specialist before any MOD to it are added. It's not a situation I'd like to find myself, even, if it's something I couldn't have done before. If I'd had a choice to decide, I'd rather see the missing profiles (Bagh Mari HMG for instance) than something I really can't see myself using at current time (TAG/crabbot).

The new mercenaries do appear to be great, although it does feel a bit Cygnar-ish to run mercs in my army once again. I have mixed view about the ITS winner allocating where those profiles will go after the end of the season.

Your strength of feeling would indicate that it's a very serious imbalance, but most people I know consider Infinity a tightly balanced game.

They've been tinkering with ITS ever since Paradiso. No one will probably soon forget how quickly they've changed it after they've seen the madness that is Avatar and Achilles as lieutenant - specialists or the IMP/Avatar abuse. Certain changes in N3 have been attempted to make a healthier game, order spam, preference of cheap bodies over elites, camouflage spam, changes to TAG to be less aggressive and so on. If Infinity was that tightly balanced game those changes wouldn't have happened, that's my counter argument, but they did. Some people consider or considered N2-3 TAG/HI to be fine, people are free to have their view, as am I to have my.