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 radarbabyeater wrote:

Tyranid607 wrote:
As I told both of the new tank is not open top and can fire up to 6 from rear and I can't recall seeing anything like IG troop inside

The tank have ability to destroy/ignore terrains
And one of the tank is able to do something like tank shock ( no idea what it is)


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One of the tank see water as a open ground instead of different terrain

Do you know what the transport capacity is on the Goliath? Not the Rockgrinder version; we already know that one.

I will update you tomorrow when I back to store
I believe it is 10 or 12
And can't transport genestealer, at the page of genestealer it said so

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
Holy hell the dice actually look super cool too.

Guess which facing the Genestealer cult logo is on....

Guess what is sold out already.

Tyranid607 wrote:

 radarbabyeater wrote:

Tyranid607 wrote:
As I told both of the new tank is not open top and can fire up to 6 from rear and I can't recall seeing anything like IG troop inside

The tank have ability to destroy/ignore terrains
And one of the tank is able to do something like tank shock ( no idea what it is)


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One of the tank see water as a open ground instead of different terrain

Do you know what the transport capacity is on the Goliath? Not the Rockgrinder version; we already know that one.

I will update you tomorrow when I back to store
I believe it is 10 or 12
And can't transport genestealer, at the page of genestealer it said so

I just can't believe that neither of the vehicles are open-topped... it defies all logic. Then again, this is GW, so I can't say I'm surprised.

Do you know any other information about the Metamorphs?

Thanks ahead of time.

 oldzoggy wrote:
I don't think that the cult is intended to be used with tyranid allies. Those "allies" will also devour the cult when they reach the planet, thats the whole fun of the fluff behind this army ; )

Well they're willingly devoured, with the hybrids being under the Tyranids psychic control n all.

 Baldeagle91 wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:
I don't think that the cult is intended to be used with tyranid allies. Those "allies" will also devour the cult when they reach the planet, thats the whole fun of the fluff behind this army ; )

Well they're willingly devoured, with the hybrids being under the Tyranids psychic control n all.

Precisely, and if some pesky interlopers arrive when that's about to happen, the nids and their willing subjects will all attack the intruders.

I think both nids and guard will be AoC.

Why so eager to have transports, especially open-topped, when Genestealer Cult units can pop up basically everywhere on the table, charge and fight a round of combat and go into ongoing reserve to strike again. Something like this was mentioned in the game design video or on the GW website. With enough fire points to make use of the passengers' special and heavy weapons not being open-topped is a plus, preventing template weapons from destroying the passengers. The use of the Goliath is probably more like a mobile gun platform than a CC unit delivery system.

Its not open topped, as it seems to be a closed hull with a firing platform on the back. Surely you should be able to target the people on the back then?

 SJM wrote:
Its not open topped, as it seems to be a closed hull with a firing platform on the back. Surely you should be able to target the people on the back then?

Technically, no. It isn't open-topped. The passengers can't be targeted.

Fluff-wise, yes.

I'd wait to see if either vehicle has some special rule regarding this before passing any further judgment, though.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Why so eager to have transports, especially open-topped, when Genestealer Cult units can pop up basically everywhere on the table, charge and fight a round of combat and go into ongoing reserve to strike again. Something like this was mentioned in the game design video or on the GW website. With enough fire points to make use of the passengers' special and heavy weapons not being open-topped is a plus, preventing template weapons from destroying the passengers. The use of the Goliath is probably more like a mobile gun platform than a CC unit delivery system.

Yeah, I agree. It seems like the Transports are more of a limitation than benefit to the mobile units.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Why so eager to have transports, especially open-topped, when Genestealer Cult units can pop up basically everywhere on the table, charge and fight a round of combat and go into ongoing reserve to strike again. Something like this was mentioned in the game design video or on the GW website. With enough fire points to make use of the passengers' special and heavy weapons not being open-topped is a plus, preventing template weapons from destroying the passengers. The use of the Goliath is probably more like a mobile gun platform than a CC unit delivery system.

Because this depends on a random roll on a chart no one has seen, and is likely to be gak. An assault vehicle would solve a lot of issues and mitigates a lot of derp.

I will gladly eat my words if it's awesome and they're more than MSU maelstrom hopper units.

What I want to know is the Pure-strain Genestealers rules are and the unit size. Their formation would be nice to know too. Would really like to know that.

The army wide rule would be nice as well. As in the what's the random aspect of it .

Super late to the party but I ordered the CE and a set of cards. Dice are already on 'email me', so I made sure they'll let me know when/if they get back in stock. Love love love this release.

Neophyte hybrids will get Astra Militarum gear options. Those are the Astra Militarum units shown on the back of the codex.

In the Black Library website entry for the codex, the image with the chimera describes the astra militarum unit as a neophyte hybrid.

The seismic cannon "shakes" the enemy to death--what if it has the graviton rule?


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Also is the codex not yet for sale on iBooks? I was hoping to at least peek at the sampler and maybe see a glossary but I can't find it.

The Seismic Cannon rightfully should be grav. But it will probably not be because GW is dumb. Or it will lack grav's advantages somehow.

I want it to be grav for the sake of the army's effectiveness, but simultaneously don't want it to be grav because I think its too rock-paper-scissorsy for the game.

Part of me wants it to be an interesting Grav Weapon. ie have the Grav rule but only be AP4 or something like that.

Part of me also doesn't though. :shrug:

I don't want it to be grav because hi-tech is not really the genestealer's cult thing. Grav, on any level, is not portrayed as something miners have lying around.

No plasma, no grav, no melta please, unless we are talking cut-down versions of the things (like the mining laser is a poor man's lascannon).


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My guess is the seismic cannon will be something like S5 AP4 Large Blast Strikedown Pinning.

it is going to be a long week, waiting for my Hybrid boxes and the Oct. White Dwarf :(
next weekend will be fun, though

do we know the release date on the truck???

cheers
jah

 jah-joshua wrote:
it is going to be a long week, waiting for my Hybrid boxes and the Oct. White Dwarf :(
next weekend will be fun, though

do we know the release date on the truck???

cheers
jah

Not for sure yet. It will probably go on pre-order next weekend, so two weeks from now it should release.

Alcibiades wrote:
I don't want it to be grav because hi-tech is not really the genestealer's cult thing. Grav, on any level, is not portrayed as something miners have lying around.

No plasma, no grav, no melta please, unless we are talking cut-down versions of the things (like the mining laser is a poor man's lascannon).


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My guess is the seismic cannon will be something like S5 AP4 Large Blast Strikedown Pinning.

I am thinking it is more in line of a sonic weapon. Ignore cover more then likely. Hopefully large blast with ap3.

Is this pic clear enough? Looks like 4 crew.

Eventually, I think this vehicle looks like a toy.

 godardc wrote:
Eventually, I think this vehicle looks like a toy.

It is a toy........

Chikout wrote:
Is this pic clear enough? Looks like 4 crew.

Oh yes, totally not in any way open-topped.

On another note, that twin-autocannon is in a terrible position. What's it got, a 90 degree fire arc... to the front right!? Madness. At least the Rockgrinder variant's weapons are on a crane arm, making it a more sensible 'technical'.

 Gen.Steiner wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Is this pic clear enough? Looks like 4 crew.

Oh yes, totally not in any way open-topped.

On another note, that twin-autocannon is in a terrible position. What's it got, a 90 degree fire arc... to the front right!? Madness. At least the Rockgrinder variant's weapons are on a crane arm, making it a more sensible 'technical'.

If the Machine Gods wanted us to shoot at people on the left they would have placed the gun on a center mount!

Alternate explanation-After the Horus Heresy PDF weapons were moved to the right side of their vehicles and a new doctrine established that trustworthy Imperial forces would always march on their left. This anti-rebellion measure has saved uncounted trillions of lives since those dark days.

 Ambience 327 wrote:
GSC are rumored to "Allies of Convenience" with Astra Militarum - which makes it easy to ally them in.

It also means I can have my Deathstrike "Doomsday Weapon" with a very small tax of an HQ and a squad of Veterans.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

Now if only we could learn if they were AoC with Chaos Marines.

I want to go back to my 2nd ed roots!

 Gen.Steiner wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Is this pic clear enough? Looks like 4 crew.

Oh yes, totally not in any way open-topped.

On another note, that twin-autocannon is in a terrible position. What's it got, a 90 degree fire arc... to the front right!? Madness. At least the Rockgrinder variant's weapons are on a crane arm, making it a more sensible 'technical'.

I think its based of one of the large number of infer-war light tanks that had of set min turrets set up like this so it could be crewed buy a passenger without increasing the axel length

They had offset mini-turrets on both sides, though. In the case of the Austin-Putilov armoured car, for example, it had two mini-turrets each mounting a Maxim gun.

I'll be sticking my guns on the crane arm, or building my own mount.

Maybe something like this?