Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - First teaser from the Broken faction - pg 91

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**GrimDork**

If the card is remotely similar to battle systems card thickness, you should be able to take super glue (brush on kind is supposedly the easiest) and go around the edges of your tokens and templates. Hardens the edges and makes the piece perform a lot more like plastic, but retains the lovely artwork.

I managed to find one of those storage bin tower things that has been mentioned here. Was picking a few things up at my local Aldis (grocery store) and spotted one with the larger brightly colored (yellow) tubs. I could see them looking very building like with some gubbins attached and a piece of of card to make the front look like a wall with an awning.

Thanks for the inspiration

**legoburner**

The card is 0.5mm thick for the suppression tokens and 1.2mm thick for the templates, so quite easy to use superglue to seal the edges (which is very good advice!)

**GrimDork**

Works for BSL, works for x-wing tokens and dials, it's a pretty handy boardgame/card terrain trick overall.

**cygnnus**

Bought and read both eBooks over the past week (due to some unually long commutes). Not bad. They're a notch below top-tier scifi IMHO, but certainly on par with what some of the better stuff that Black Library or Privateer Press's imprint have kicked out.

The pacing is, as with many gaming-derived books, a bit off. And the prose isn't quite a good as some top notch authors. Both of those, I think, simply come with practice.

But for gaming fiction, they're not bad at all.

Sounds like a bit of faint praise, I know, but I did enjoy them and they are very respectable "first efforts". As I noted, by the standards of gaming fiction they're definitely up there.

Interesting forershadowing in the end of book 2. Won't spoiler anything, but It looks like some avenues for the future have been laid down.

Valete,

JohnS

**bocatt**

darrkespur wrote:
home_brew wrote:
This might have already been asked, but will the other factions be an all consuming race like the zerg or tyranids, and daemon-like beings that came from the maelstrom? Also, is there a faction of self aware robots? I know you already have the factions planned out and I'm hyped to see whats next, just curious what you've got planned.

We'll be revealing our new factions in time, but it's safe to say they won't be any of the above. Whilst in a scifi game it's impossible to not have any similarities to anything that's ever been made before, we are aiming for each of our factions to feel different to other games.

One new faction we have spoken a little bit about so far is the Broken, which is the remains of society left behind when governments and corporations leave worlds close to the Maelstrom. This will be a mix of human and aliens, banding together as revolutionaries, pirates and teams of survivors to get what they need to escape offworld and survive before the Maelstrom reaches them. We have a lot of exciting design work done for these guys and two more factions (the Remnant Fleet and the Kaigus Pact) but due to the levels of investment required to make an all-plastic game, how the launch of the first set goes (both Kickstarter and retail) will determine when we can start working on producing the miniatures. For that reason we are concentrating on the first two factions that will be in the first game, the Epirian Foundation and the Karist Enclave. We still have more models from both to show you so hopefully the Kickstarter continues to go well so we can add more to what backers will get for their sweet spot pledge - the Kaddar Nova and terrain sprue are hopefully just the beginning!

bocatt wrote:

I'm pretty happy with the current range and what is planned for both factions in that I'll definitely be backing, but what caught my interest the most was the mention of the Broken (Aliens, Pirates and Renegades! yes please! ) and other subfactions, I know you're not even a little bit close to that sculpting/release or even know when that will be, and that you guys are busy with the launch, kickstarter and Salute, but when you have time, can we have some hints please? Maybe concept art? I'm not basing my buying decision on this but I want to know if I should get as excited for future releases as I already am

I posted this over in the discussion thread but it was in the middle of the gear up for Salute and kind of got buried in the rest of the talk. I'm still curious about those aliens and anarchists

**Grey Templar**

Yeah, I'd kinda like to see some concept art of those.

**Jehan-reznor**

The robot's are growing on me they make me think of these

Question, if the kickstarter scenery gets unlocked, will there be a "deluxe version" of the boxed set with extra stuff(characters, scenery etcetara) in it?

Spend too many monies already so i have to wait until the retail release :(

**Torga_DW**

bocatt wrote:
I posted this over in the discussion thread but it was in the middle of the gear up for Salute and kind of got buried in the rest of the talk. I'm still curious about those aliens and anarchists

This. I'd want to like the game and get on board, but more info is needed. I get that i may not be the 'target player', but the lack of info seems a bit perplexing. Almost feels like the gw 'no info' way of selling a product. Still watching to see what happens with the stretch goals, and hoping more info might come that way.

more feedback: i like the epirian contractors, but not feeling it with the mechs & scarecrows so far. Not a big fan of the karists, the limp wrist thing is fine but the pics so far look like a cross between eldar and space marines and i find them a bit uninspiring. Which is where knowing about the other factions might help, but then i guess it may not either. Will see how things develop.

**squall018**

Just backed. Been out of town for most of the week, so been catching up with this. Went in for the 50$ pledge. I'll stay there just to support the game, but may go to the 90$ pledge depending on how things shake out. Good luck, guys!

**RiTides**

Jehan-reznor wrote:
The robot's are growing on me they make me think of these

Spoiler:

Question, if the kickstarter scenery gets unlocked, will there be a "deluxe version" of the boxed set with extra stuff(characters, scenery etcetara) in it?

Spend too many monies already so i have to wait until the retail release :(

Yeah, the robots feel very retro to me as well, which I kind of dig

As far as I know, the hope is to add things into the main $90 pledge as the total increases and they can take advantage of volume discounts (hence both the current stretch goals adding content, and I expect that to continue!)

**darrkespur**

Torga_DW wrote:

This. I'd want to like the game and get on board, but more info is needed. I get that i may not be the 'target player', but the lack of info seems a bit perplexing. Almost feels like the gw 'no info' way of selling a product. Still watching to see what happens with the stretch goals, and hoping more info might come that way.

We don't want to show all our cards at the start of the kickstarter - people would get excited for a few days and then we'd have nothing more to talk about for the rest of the campaign! We have a carefully planned schedule to reveal all over the next few weeks so we can give attention to each part of the game in turn.

A little hint - every unit you can see in the art has been made into a (fully plastic) model, and will be revealed at some point during the campaign. Most of the units in the novels are also going to be revealed, and there's a few hints at the end of the books of where we'll go with future factions. If we raise enough money in the kickstarter all of the new designs will be added as stretch goals to the sweet spot pledge.

**Panic**

yeah,

legoburner wrote:
The card is 0.5mm thick for the suppression tokens and 1.2mm thick for the templates, so quite easy
to use superglue to seal the edges (which is very good advice!)

I use Sharpie Paint pens. Basically it's acrylic in a pen.

Spoiler:

It makes tokens pop and seals the edges.

Before:

Spoiler:

After:

Spoiler:

This technique is very easy and will look great on the suppresion tokens.

Panic...

**Lost Egg**

The slow reveal is frustrating (ya big tease) but understandable especially given the long KS campaign.

I assume the 40day length was chosen to take advantage of Salute but also to allow you to finish off the Drone Controller and the Kaddar Nova.

Grabbed the twin set of novel from Salute and looking forward to reading them (just got to finish TP's Soul Music first). I'm also eager to see future novels in physical form, my dyslexia makes reading a lot on the comp a bit of a head ache.

**Slinky**

Wow, thanks for the Sharpie paint pen hint, Panic!

Off to Amazon I go

**Stormphoenix**

The KS time period was mostly to cover two people's paychecks so people can plan a bit

**hans_co**

I'm very curious and I wish the Dakka team the best of luck!

That said--the name is terrible. Say what you will about Warhammer and Warmachine, the names are simple, punchy, and *recognizable* as hell. Malifaux is a name that's out of left field but for that reason is memorable.

Maelstrom's Edge sounds like a bad SF flick. It's bland and forgettable and tells me nothing about the game. Consider changing it before full launch.

**darrkespur**

hans_co wrote:
I'm very curious and I wish the Dakka team the best of luck!

That said--the name is terrible. Say what you will about Warhammer and Warmachine, the names are simple, punchy, and *recognizable* as hell. Malifaux is a name that's out of left field but for that reason is memorable.

Maelstrom's Edge sounds like a bad SF flick. It's bland and forgettable and tells me nothing about the game. Consider changing it before full launch.

Thanks for the well wishes. Sorry you don't like the name, but that's set in stone now with the public launch. I actually think it tells you a lot about the game and our setting. The Maelstrom is the core of our universe, the galaxy-spanning event that causes our factions to come into conflict, and the Edge is the area of space where our stories and games are set. I think any name you give something is unknown at the beginning, it's only after people become more familiar with a game that you learn to associate it with the models, art and fiction - I know that when I first came across thigns like Infinity or Malifaux I didn't know what those names implied about the games themselves. Hopefully as people learn more about what we've made they'll come to associate the name Maelstrom's Edge with everything we've created.

**Emperors_Champion**

I'm in at the sweet spot!

Good luck everyone!

**darrkespur**

Thanks everyone! We've already made loads of progress and it's great to see so many people supporting us already - we really appreciate it.

We've posted pictures of all the sprues for the models released so far on Kickstarter so you can see exactly what you're going to get (and how we get such a smooth finish on the Angel Minnows!)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/medge/maelstroms-edge-a-next-gen-sci-fi-miniatures-warga/posts/1212308

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Torga_DW wrote:
bocatt wrote:
I posted this over in the discussion thread but it was in the middle of the gear up for Salute and kind of got buried in the rest of the talk. I'm still curious about those aliens and anarchists

This. I'd want to like the game and get on board, but more info is needed. I get that i may not be the 'target player', but the lack of info seems a bit perplexing. Almost feels like the gw 'no info' way of selling a product. Still watching to see what happens with the stretch goals, and hoping more info might come that way.

I believe the idea is that there is no point talking about factions that will not see any place on the table for years (based on the time and expense needed to develop and produce hard plastic minis), especially because no matter how much you emphasise the point some people would buy in to the game expecting to be able to buy them relatively soon and end up bitter and disappointed

they also want to have new stuff to talk about/reveal throughout the campaign which is long by KS standards in order to cover 2 paydays, but because of this risks people getting bored and putting out

**TP^DC Deputy Manager**

Panic wrote:yeah,
legoburner wrote:
The card is 0.5mm thick for the suppression tokens and 1.2mm thick for the templates, so quite easy
to use superglue to seal the edges (which is very good advice!)

I use Sharpie Paint pens. Basically it's acrylic in a pen.

Spoiler:

It makes tokens pop and seals the edges.

Before:

Spoiler:

yukky!

After:

Spoiler:

This technique is very easy and will look great on the suppresion tokens.

Panic...

Awesome - thank you very much for that tip!

Lost Egg wrote:The slow reveal is frustrating (ya big tease) but understandable especially given the long KS campaign.

I assume the 40day length was chosen to take advantage of Salute but also to allow you to finish off the Drone Controller and the Kaddar Nova.

Grabbed the twin set of novel from Salute and looking forward to reading them (just got to finish TP's Soul Music first). I'm also eager to see future novels in physical form, my dyslexia makes reading a lot on the comp a bit of a head ache.

I have to use coloured overlays to read due to my dyslexia and they just don't work with eBooks for some reason. That's why I've been so keen to get printed copies too. I hope I manage to bag some of the leftovers when they are available *Fingers crossed*

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

OT:

Have you tried reading ebooks via a dedicated ereader like a kindle (not kindle fire) or nook? or just via an app on pc/tablet/phone

I know somebody with dyslexia who uses a coloured overlay successfully on e-ink devices but who can't can't use them on pc/tablet/phone type screens

**Eilif**

Panic,
The paint pen idea is wonderful! I've used regular sharpie to blacken the edges of card scenerybefore, but that's just for looks and doesn't provide any protection. The bright edges on your painted tokens look really sharp. I may have to give this a try.

RiTides wrote:
Jehan-reznor wrote:
The robot's are growing on me they make me think of these

Spoiler:

Question, if the kickstarter scenery gets unlocked, will there be a "deluxe version" of the boxed set with extra stuff(characters, scenery etcetara) in it?

Spend too many monies already so i have to wait until the retail release :(

Yeah, the robots feel very retro to me as well, which I kind of dig

I think the robots look much better than the RT designs, but if you like the RT designs, you should definitely check out these guys:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/179741323/ramshackle-robots?ref=nav_search

**Krinsath**

Yeah Panic, thanks for the tip there; I have plenty enough tokens to try that out on and they do certainly have more pop.

Looking forward to these rumored goodies from Salute as well as the campaign goes on. From the initial view the Scarecrows didn't do much for me, but that could be the angle/color/light making it a bit misleading. They looked quite spindly when I looked at them at first then I zoomed in and they look better; they're not bulky but they're not on stilts either. Reminds me of the Griffin/Roundfacer really which is no bad thing.

Also the obligatory "Yep I'm in for the sweet spot" post I didn't make over the weekend when I pledged.

**TP^DC Deputy Manager**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
OT:

Have you tried reading ebooks via a dedicated ereader like a kindle (not kindle fire) or nook? or just via an app on pc/tablet/phone

I know somebody with dyslexia who uses a coloured overlay successfully on e-ink devices but who can't can't use them on pc/tablet/phone type screens

I've tried kindle/laptop/iPad - each device loses the benefit of the overlay for some reason - I start re-reading lines again, getting headaches and going at a much slower pace. I've got software for the PC, but it doesn't work as well. I think I'm just really busy and am less tolerant than previously of things taking longer than necessary. If I don't get print copies, I'll wait for an iBooks version and buy them then.

**Hordini**

insaniak wrote:
MLaw wrote:
The more I look at them, the more the assless chaps are pushing me away. However, the idea of doing a Village People strike team is pretty amusing.

I wonder if this is some sort of odd generational-cultural divide thing? Growing up with western movies, the first thing that chaps* bring to mind is cowboys, which fits the frontier nature of the setting. It seems a lot of people jump straight to 'Hollywood gay bar' instead, for some reason...

We've also had people post examples in this thread of other professions that wear chaps for extra leg protection.

* (seriously, folks, just 'chaps'... there is no more point in calling them 'assless' chaps then there would be referring to their trousers as 'footless' pants...)

I'm starting to wonder about this too. Maybe it's a symptom of more people working desk jobs or other jobs that don't involve as much outdoor labor. To me, chaps are a pretty normal thing for riding or outdoor work. But people keep talking about "assless" chaps as if that is different from regular chaps and acting like it's just some kind of weird outfit for strippers or leather bars rather than something that would make sense to wear on a planet with a lot of thick brush or undergrowth.

**warboss**

See, now you're discriminating against those who wear chaps for work at stripclubs and leather bars! They have feelings too!

And back a bit more to the actual KS, I started following it today on kicktraq. It's been a while since I followed a campaign daily (probably 2 years now) but it seems like they took away the hourly pledge/pledgers tracking from the "daily" tab. It looks like the initial rush is likely over (although there may be a small bump from Salute today) and we're in for the long haul. I know Lego and Yak have stuff spaced out likely for 40 days but I do hope we have a pic of one of the larger figs soon or a render of the drone handler. It says the drone handler plastic is "still in development" so maybe they can take some of the feedback here into account about the shape/proportions of the model. That might, though, make the new guy look a bit out of place with the grunts though.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Looks like the minnows come with an extra pair of wings. Hats for everyone!

**MLaw**

Hordini wrote:
insaniak wrote:
MLaw wrote:
The more I look at them, the more the assless chaps are pushing me away. However, the idea of doing a Village People strike team is pretty amusing.

I wonder if this is some sort of odd generational-cultural divide thing? Growing up with western movies, the first thing that chaps* bring to mind is cowboys, which fits the frontier nature of the setting. It seems a lot of people jump straight to 'Hollywood gay bar' instead, for some reason...

We've also had people post examples in this thread of other professions that wear chaps for extra leg protection.

* (seriously, folks, just 'chaps'... there is no more point in calling them 'assless' chaps then there would be referring to their trousers as 'footless' pants...)

I'm starting to wonder about this too. Maybe it's a symptom of more people working desk jobs or other jobs that don't involve as much outdoor labor. To me, chaps are a pretty normal thing for riding or outdoor work. But people keep talking about "assless" chaps as if that is different from regular chaps and acting like it's just some kind of weird outfit for strippers or leather bars rather than something that would make sense to wear on a planet with a lot of thick brush or undergrowth.

Quite the opposite.. those chaps are super wrinkly.. if the material were rigid enough to be protective, they'd not have wrinkles and folds. Since they are made from a non-protective material (or at least sculpted that way) then I can only conclude that they are for costume only.. and according to Wikipedia, when chaps are worn in that manner they are referred to colloquially as assless chaps. Don't blame me for the sculptor liking wrinkles so much

**home_brew**

The Epirian Contractors look like a mix between NCR troopers from Fallout and the marines in Aliens.