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2016/02/13 00:00:02
Subject: Re:Games & Gears Kickstarer Battleboards - (Ends on 12/24/13)
So the most recent update says that Hellscape backers won't be getting their boards at all, and that they should contact G&G for a refund.
Whilst annoying that I gave G&G a three year interest free loan, I suppose I shouldn't complain too much if they actually follow through and give me my refund - it certainly could have been a lot worse.
Update spoilered below
Spoiler:
Dear backers,
We will now begin the process of fully refunding backers who have not yet received their Hellscape Battle board.
ALT Battle Board OPTION
There is a lot of you, who have requested for an alternative battle board. Which we have changed for you. Please bear in mind we will continue to do this upon request only via PM as we have very little left of alternative battle boards. (Anima, Anime wars, dropzone commander & Urban War). So we can change your hellscape board to another battle board until stocks of alternative board last, which we have very little left. Some regions around the world we are completely out of stock for alternative battle boards.
Please we are very limited in stock for this option and it will be first come first serve basis
Hellscape Full refund process:
To get your full refund please kindly PM us on the 7th & 8th of March 2016, your refund will then be processed on 9th & 10th of March 2016. If your card which you paid via the KS is not the same anymore. We will issue you a full refund via paypal as a personal/family payment so we bear the paypal charges instead of you.
Please give us your PAYPAL EMAIL ADDRESS via PM for us to make payment. If you card is no longer the same or valid via this KS. We will also mark down the refund via backerskit.
If you miss the 9th & 10th of March refund window. Don't worry, PM us and we will sort you out and give you the next date where we will process the refunds. We will issue you an update on the 9th of March to remind you to contact us regarding your full refund.
Due to the unfortunate force majuere since that with a very heavy heart we could not dispatch this and get this one theme in this particular product format out to market in a timely fashion in what has been a very difficult KS and we think you are all heroes for your fantastic support & patience in this matter. This decision was not taken lightly.
Thanks again for your incredible support and it's amazing to know the vast bulk of you are having good times on the battle boards you have received, which was the point of the project to create boards you can replay on for years and decades to comes. Lastly with the troubles had thank you immensely for making the battle boards a huge success. We have more users of these boards that most relative products out there and great to know thousands of players, playing on these next generation boards.
Thank you,
Battle Board Crew
FAQ: If your add ons where only relevant for the Hellscape battle board we will also honor and full refund on those too.
2016/03/02 09:55:45
Subject: Games & Gears Kickstarer Battleboards - (Ends on 12/24/13)
My DZC boards arrived today in the Northern VA area. They're not as great as I hoped for, but honestly better than I expected. I do not regret my purchase, and I purchased at actual retail price (I missed the Kickstarter). They WILL require a lot of work to tune up. I plan to hit all the grey with washes and weathering powders, and flock over the grass areas. I will probably leave the road lines as is, even through they're pretty poor...I don't expect my road lines to be perfect in a ruined city, and I'd probably make it look even worse if I tried to repaint by hand. Images spoilered below.
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2016/03/12 02:01:32
Subject: Games & Gears Kickstarer Battleboards - (Ends on 12/24/13)
If I was going to beat up the lines on the Tarmac, I'd sponge some black over them to break them up, play around with some black weathering pigment and then flat coat over the top to smooth out any disparity in the reflection between the finished surface and my materials.
Just as an idea.
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I don't know if they make it anymore since I haven't seen it at the hardware store in a while, but I have a can of water based minwax wood stain. I use it for washing really big things, and it works pretty good. I water it down first though because it will bead up on flat areas and look bad.. but if you're careful it can be really good at filling in cracks. So a good wash with that maybe with a light drybrush after would probably pick out the details on the sidewalk areas real good.
I know there's oil based stains and army painter has oil based washes in big cans, but I prefer to use water based for everything since I'm too lazy to spend $5 on turpentine.
2016/03/13 17:49:59
Subject: Games & Gears Kickstarer Battleboards - (Ends on 12/24/13)
Necros wrote: I don't know if they make it anymore since I haven't seen it at the hardware store in a while, but I have a can of water based minwax wood stain. I use it for washing really big things, and it works pretty good. I water it down first though because it will bead up on flat areas and look bad.. but if you're careful it can be really good at filling in cracks. So a good wash with that maybe with a light drybrush after would probably pick out the details on the sidewalk areas real good.
I know there's oil based stains and army painter has oil based washes in big cans, but I prefer to use water based for everything since I'm too lazy to spend $5 on turpentine.
MinWax water based stain is still made, and comes in a whole bunch of colors.
Very handy for those of us that like to Dip.
The Auld Grump
Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
2016/03/21 18:44:39
Subject: Games & Gears Kickstarer Battleboards - (Ends on 12/24/13)
They aren't if you want a gaming surface that is quick to set up and break down. In that case a game mat will likely always be "better." However, if you want a gaming surface that isn't 2D, that has more realism than what amounts to a high quality mouse pad or vinyl banner, then a terrain board is often "better" than a game mat.
Different strokes and all that.
2016/03/21 20:33:38
Subject: Re:Games & Gears Kickstarer Battleboards - (Ends on 12/24/13)
Joyboozer wrote: But I have Tablescapes for true 3D, and mats for quick and easy. I just don't get where these fit in? Is it just because they're cheap?
I have both and Tablescapes more pronounced 3D tiles are less friendly for gaming as you can't put terrain on top.
G&G is offering full refunds for any undelivered items. They have totally severed their relationship with the Chinese manufacturers and it appears no further boards will be made, and the trays will not be made either. They refunded me within thirty minutes of asking for a refund for my add-on tray set. Just message them through Kickstarter with your backerkit email address and what add-ons you did not receive.
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2016/06/07 18:33:33
Subject: Re:Games & Gears Kickstarer Battleboards - (Ends on 12/24/13)