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 OIIIIIIO wrote:

 karlosovic wrote:

Ironclad Warlord wrote:
I'm against the wolves having a codex, their worse than the ultramarines, why do we need another space marine codex, how about we codexs for different guard regiments, bring back the lost and the damned, maybe introduce a new group of aliens like the ones the inquisition keeps mentioning but we never see any of them.

Yeh well back in 1994, we got the first ever codex. So if we're doing this thing, Space Wolves kinda own the idea of the codex, since we were there first, and your army can lose its codex instead
We also had the first Primarch

Lots of the lore started with Space Wolves

It's much more likely GW would discontinue chaos than Space Wolves

You are aware that Leman Russ was actually originally a Guardsman right?

Nope, I was not aware. I started playing in the early 90s and the only Rogue Trader book I have has a page dedicated to Leman Russ, describing him as one of the 20 Primarchs, and includes the story of the feud between him and Lion El'Jonson. I also have the Rogue Trader era miniature of him.

If the name existed in lore as an Imperial Guardsman prior to that, OK, sure.... doesn't change the fact that the first dedicated "Codex Book" was for Space Wolves..... so it's not really a case of

Ironclad Warlord wrote:
another space marine codex

When you're the First, you're the only who simply cannot ever be called "another".

I want a horribly undercosted, overpowered flyer (aka helturkey but of course twice as mean because we are a new codex maybe Armor 2/2++ and immune to graviton weapons), a new army unit that everyone must buy or they can't compete, so Space Wolves must be at least allies, and that means Matt Ward writes our codex. I am not playing warhammer 40k after the flyers ruined the game after playing for 20 years because again Chaos has been horribly broken.

We need
- Destroyer blades on vehicles
- Dirge caster
-Warp flame gargoyles
-Havoc launcher so our empty Rhino MUST be destroyed
-A broken flyer that roasts unit with a 3/5++ save against everything and lets add regenerates hull points and grossly undercosted on top for fun
-A deathstar with 2/2++ with armor and save rerolls,AKA seer council
-A flying transport yhat we can take 6 of course under costed yet again
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How about we instead go right to Warhammer 7th edition and fix everything first??!! Lets have actual army balance (now everyone is laughing) and we don't just all play whatever army is the most broken looking at Necron flyer lists/Choas Marine 3 Helturkey/Eldar seer council harlequin/Flying Demon circus

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I am not playing warhammer 40k after the flyers ruined the game after playing for 20 years because again Chaos has been horribly broken.

Chaos space marines is one of the lowest army wins right now, and is only used for cultists/helturkey, we can't even field actual CSM because it's a bad idea too.

Also Space puppies were OP in 2E, 3E, and 5E. So don't go there.

krenalor wrote:


*angry rant*

As a Black Templars player, keep up the flow of tears, it lets me craft more Holy Orbs of Antioch.

krenalor wrote:
I want a horribly undercosted, overpowered flyer (aka helturkey but of course twice as mean because we are a new codex maybe Armor 2/2++ and immune to graviton weapons), a new army unit that everyone must buy or they can't compete, so Space Wolves must be at least allies, and that means Matt Ward writes our codex. I am not playing warhammer 40k after the flyers ruined the game after playing for 20 years because again Chaos has been horribly broken.

We need
- Destroyer blades on vehicles
- Dirge caster
-Warp flame gargoyles
-Havoc launcher so our empty Rhino MUST be destroyed
-A broken flyer that roasts unit with a 3/5++ save against everything and lets add regenerates hull points and grossly undercosted on top for fun
-A deathstar with 2/2++ with armor and save rerolls,AKA seer council
-A flying transport yhat we can take 6 of course under costed yet again
:

How about we instead go right to Warhammer 7th edition and fix everything first??!! Lets have actual army balance (now everyone is laughing) and we don't just all play whatever army is the most broken looking at Necron flyer lists/Choas Marine 3 Helturkey/Eldar seer council harlequin/Flying Demon circus

Yes ... I want Matt Ward to write the SW codex ... and Phil Kelly to write the BA codex. I want an army that is not a WHOLE bag of suck. Lets look at Wards books. CSM, sucked; Necrons ... not too bad actually; CBA, pathetic; Grey Knights, suck .... so yeah ... have Ward write your codex. Everything that Kelly touches is the next golden child.

Remove Wolfy McWolf and his Wolf Claws of Wolfiness rising a WolfWolf equipped with the Wolf Pelt of Wolves.

Especially Wolf Claws. At least they don't have Wolf Fists.

 4oursword wrote:
Remove Wolfy McWolf and his Wolf Claws of Wolfiness rising a WolfWolf equipped with the Wolf Pelt of Wolves.

Especially Wolf Claws. At least they don't have Wolf Fists.

I think I'm reaching the point where if someone says that at my store I'm going to try and hurt them.

All I want is to not have Centurions.

Definately an update on long fangs they are way to underpriced or how well they do in game and 5 heavy weapons in one squad too much imho

 RileyJessup wrote:
Definately an update on long fangs they are way to underpriced or how well they do in game and 5 heavy weapons in one squad too much imho

They're devs, who cares?

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
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I am not playing warhammer 40k after the flyers ruined the game after playing for 20 years because again Chaos has been horribly broken.

Chaos space marines is one of the lowest army wins right now, and is only used for cultists/helturkey, we can't even field actual CSM because it's a bad idea too.

Also Space puppies were OP in 2E, 3E, and 5E. So don't go there.

Yep, thats what I mean...nothing like a Chaos Space Marine codex with ZERO actual marines in the armies...because of two units that aren't actually marines are OP. Well really only one grossly OP that everyone is is now running 3 of in my gaming group. Good job though GW selling those Helchicken models.

I was there for 2nd edition, it was all Eldar for tournament wins so don't even state SW was overpowered!

Now it IS Eldar/Tau/Demons at tier 1, SW aren't even close they are tier 3 max.