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I'm probably looking right at it, but any estimated release date for these new starter boxes?

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I don't believe they have announced a release date, but there were general statements of "early 2014." There is a lot of stuff in the pipeline, but I'm sure these sets will be out before Operation Babylon, which be a campaign set in North Africa and is also planned for release in the near future.

If you are thinking about getting into the game, you can find the current starter set, which has 2 factions, typically discounted to $50-60 online, although I've seen some copies selling on Ebay and other places as low as $40. It is a good way to get started, especially if you can split it with a friend. The only issue is there is some overlap on units with Axis between the current and upcoming sets, but even there the only unit you probably would not want two of are the Heavy Laser Grenadiers.

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Very cool models, these are something I'd like to collect.

Maybe I'm reading the site wrong or missing something, but it says most of these are "Dust Premium" and are pre-painted, not to mention expensive. I can't seem to find the newer releases in an unpainted version.

 
   
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Fixture of Dakka






Glasgow, Scotland

Huh, didn't know this game was still going, though that may just be because my flgs has sold off all their stock of it at a pittance. From what I played it was interesting, pity nobody plays it anymore around here. =/

@ Cave_Dweller

I think that's a site dedicated to just selling pre painted models and conversions rather than the base kits. Fantasy Flight Game's site has full listings.

Oh, and question. Are the Aks that the SSU wield available separately, and at a price suitable to buy in enough numbers to outfit say thirty troopers? They're kind of the look I'm going for with my Fallout Chinese Remnants.

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 Cave_Dweller wrote:
Very cool models, these are something I'd like to collect.

Maybe I'm reading the site wrong or missing something, but it says most of these are "Dust Premium" and are pre-painted, not to mention expensive. I can't seem to find the newer releases in an unpainted version.


Dust is kind of a buying fup right now. FFG has the rights to the current models until they sell out, so Battlefront can't sell them yet. Then we are waiting to for Battlefront to start release the new waves of models, but there keep the cards close to there chest. Me I'm waiting to see if they jack the price up, to be inline with there FoW cost, I'll stop buying Dust if they do that (more then enough model to keep playing). So as for your question, you get the non-painted one from FFG for now.

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Thanks Noir & Wyrmalla, that clears it up!

 
   
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 Cave_Dweller wrote:
Very cool models, these are something I'd like to collect.

Maybe I'm reading the site wrong or missing something, but it says most of these are "Dust Premium" and are pre-painted, not to mention expensive. I can't seem to find the newer releases in an unpainted version.


You can buy most kits from FFG, or from other online retailers, like Miniature Market and The Warstore, which sell at 20-30% off retail. This is typically where I purchase mine. The unpainted kits all come assembled and pre-primed. Dust Studios also sells both 1:35 and 1:48 scale kits, but these are higher quality plastic and resin multi-piece kits, and are somewhat more geared towards modelers than for gaming, although they can absolutely be used on the table, at least for the 1:48 scale kits. The 1:35 are purely hobby models and not in correct scale for gaming. These are closer to GW prices for the Dust Studios kits.


Noir wrote:
Then we are waiting to for Battlefront to start release the new waves of models, but there keep the cards close to there chest. Me I'm waiting to see if they jack the price up, to be inline with there FoW cost, I'll stop buying Dust if they do that (more then enough model to keep playing).


Well, the first few kits have already been released by Battlefront and the prices have not gone up at all, so I don't really think it is something to worry about.

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Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but are the Warfare campaign books being done away with for future releases?
   
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Bob the Accountant wrote:
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but are the Warfare campaign books being done away with for future releases?


From what Steven told me during our little Q&A, it seems they are going over to PDF formats for those. I think with official cards coming out, the need for printed books does seem less useful and also allows them to be released at the same time as the Tactics models a lot easier.

   
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 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
Bob the Accountant wrote:
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but are the Warfare campaign books being done away with for future releases?


From what Steven told me during our little Q&A, it seems they are going over to PDF formats for those. I think with official cards coming out, the need for printed books does seem less useful and also allows them to be released at the same time as the Tactics models a lot easier.


Ah, okay. Thanks for enlightening me!
   
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Allies Starter set preview is up: http://www.dust-tactics.com/Home/tabid/56/entryid/96/Default.aspx


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Calgary, Alberta, Canada

I assume they are planning a big relaunch once all the 'who can sell what' things are settled?
The sale seems to have killed any momentum this game had which is a shame.

I like the new(?) Bazooka Joe, much better than the original starter set who was shaped not unlike a pear.
   
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Looking good!



And looking forward to where they take the license...

   
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Maybe more tanks knowing BattleFront?



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 BrookM wrote:
Maybe more tanks knowing BattleFront?


They don't control what models are released. They are just in charge of distribution and the Warfare rules.

Also, so everyone knows, these new starter sets are really almost entirely geared to Tactics. Aside from the models themselves, nothing else in it is really for Warfare.

And, for those looking to jump in, I put up some articles to help new people play Warfare:
BoLS Article
Recruit Depot (Part 1)
Recruit Depot (Part 2)
More to come soon!

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 BrookM wrote:
Maybe more tanks knowing BattleFront?


Please no . The Reds are already bad enough with one midget walker for the entire faction, tanks are the last thing we need in this game.
   
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 plastictrees wrote:
I assume they are planning a big relaunch once all the 'who can sell what' things are settled?
The sale seems to have killed any momentum this game had which is a shame.

I like the new(?) Bazooka Joe, much better than the original starter set who was shaped not unlike a pear.



I'm not sure how that will play out exactly. The new starter sets are still 1.0 rules. There seem to be some minor changes, but the core rules are more or less the same. They are working on Tactics 2.0 from what I gather, so there may be a bigger push whenever those new rules come out, although the game functions pretty good as is. I think Warfare players are the ones hoping for more changes, and I have every intention to play Warfare as well(I have 2 copies of the rulebook already haha) but I'm still fairly new to Dust and my friends are pretty happy playing Tactics currently.

FFG just had a huge Dust sale for Black Friday and I scooped up a ton of units that made me damn near giddy considering how much I got for what a single GW kit goes for these days. I fact I just sold the last of my GW stuff, and am pretty excited about Dust. So while some momentum may have died off due to the changeover, if they can pull a 20 year GW vet away completely, with cheap quality models, tight rules and a cool game background, I'm sure they can swing momentum back up with the new releases they are pumping out lately. They are even doing open betas for the campaign releases from BF, so they are really involving the community in transition I feel. Basically, everything that Dakka complains that GW would doesn't do, they have done for their game.

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Nevermind. :/

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Just picked up 5 boxes of Dust for $5 a box due to a clearance sale of them on ebay. Hoping to use them for Infinity as Kazaks, so I will see how I go with them. If not, I can always flog them on to someone else.

Wish shipping was cheaper from Miniature Market. Would love to pick up some of the terrain they have going cheap for this to use, but shipping prices are just ludicrous.
   
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Their moving sale makes the shipping a wee bit better to swallow, I picked up a pair of Leviathan arms myself from them, despite the rather steep shipping fees involves.



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They put out a PDF of the updated starter book today:
http://www.gf9-dnd.com/Docs/Dust/Dustrules_starter.pdf

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Sharpsburg, MD

The starter rules seems to be pushing the idea that Tactics should be an smaller easier version of warfare. Which I think is great something that should have been there from the beginning. I can't wait to see what else BF has in store.
   
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There's also a print copy of that booklet with next month's Wargames Illustrated, following this month's 4 page introduction to the Dust universe.

   
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Since no one else is updating this lately, I thought I post a few of the recent releases.

Dust Warfare cards are out. This means Warfare can now be updated as each kit is released, rather than waiting on an expansion book to cover the new units. You can check them out here: http://www.dust-tactics.com/Home/tabid/56/entryid/112/Default.aspx


Battlefront has also previewed the new Dust Tactics cards that will be released alongside DT 2.0, which should be released in the next 1-2 months. The most dramatic change is that the point values have been cut by 2/3rds, so the "standard" game size is now 100 points rather than 300. Cards preview is here: http://www.dust-tactics.com/Home/tabid/56/entryid/140/Default.aspx


The new starter sets are finally out in the wild and seem to be available at many FLGS, but some online retailers still have them on pre-order. They retail for $50, but Miniature Market has them for $35 and The Warstore for $38. If you've been considering starting the game, these are all solid starter forces.


Personally, with the increased complexity and ever expanding rules releases happening in 40k, it is a breath of fresh air to play a straight forward, but very tactical game that can be set up and played in around an hour. Not to mention a full starter force cost the equivalent of a single unit in 40k. Not trying to hate on 40k, but this game just checks all the boxes for me that 40k doesn't any more. High quality models, clear and balanced rules and very cheap in comparison to a lot of other games and plays quickly.

I have only been playing a few months and have not used these updated rules yet, but if you have any questions about the game in general, I'm happy to answer any questions as best I can. The Babylon expansion(North Africa campaign) is just around the corner as well as the new rule book, so it is a great time to get into the game if you are interested!

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Well, between Paolo saying he basically wanted to merge Warfare into Tactics (as per a recent interview) and the overall weakness of the support from the parent company, I think the smart thing to do would be to get out as fast as you can if you are a Warfare player. Looks that despite Warfare cards, the game has pushed over to pdf books and almost zero support, especially given the pathetic attempt at "fan-run" organized play for Dust. I had high hopes for Warfare, but I saw no worthwhile future, resulting in my closing down my site Dust-War.com and offloading my army.

Oh and this little freakout from Paolo made me chuckle. The overall mood of a good chunk of the playerbase has been negative in regards to the new Tactics rules and the "shut up and wait" attitudes.
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@em en oh pee, do you have the site. I can't seem to locate it. I am curios to read the responses.
It was not very professional thing for Paolo to say.he could have just said wait for the rules to give it a chance. Instead, he berated those with concerns and dismissed them as unintelligent.
   
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Ernster wrote:

@em en oh pee, do you have the site. I can't seem to locate it. I am curios to read the responses.
It was not very professional thing for Paolo to say.he could have just said wait for the rules to give it a chance. Instead, he berated those with concerns and dismissed them as unintelligent.


That is from the Dust Tactics Facebook group, where he posts with some regularity. It wound up getting nasty and the Dust Studio folks wound up banning people, from what I hear.

Sad, sad fate for a game that had such promise, as least in regards to Warfare.

   
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Ernster wrote:

It was not very professional thing for Paolo to say.he could have just said wait for the rules to give it a chance. Instead, he berated those with concerns and dismissed them as unintelligent.


Hardly. He's having a human reaction to the useless stupidity of nerd rage from a select group of people because things got changed.

Things they haven't even fully seen.

So if they want to say "I'm outta here" then it's get out and don't expect us to beg to come back.

I'm also part of that FB group.

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Wow em_en_oh_pee, are you really going to try and spread this nonsense just because YOU didn't like that Battlefront wasn't moving at your pace? Look, it's one thing that you wanted to rage quit and shut down your DW forums for whatever perceived faults you have with Battlefront or whoever you blame for Dust Warfare. So far literally nothing has changed with the game you once championed aside from new unit cards. Seriously though if you have a problem with the game that's fine but you are really going to try and dissuade people from the game just because you stop liking it? You JUST wrote articles on BoLS about how great it was like a month ago!

I have no vested interest in Dust Warfare, so I don't care as much about the changes that may or may not be coming, but so far, the rules aren't even out for Dust Tactics 2.0 or Warfare 2.0 and aisde from you and a few others, everyone in the Dust community seems excited about it. Oddly enough the Dust forums have got A LOT less negative since you rage quit.

I'm not trying to pick a fight or start drama here, but seriously, if you don't like the game anymore just move on. There is no need to paint the game in a bad light because they are bringing out new rules we haven't even seen yet. That is basically what your sudden crusade against Dust boils down.

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I agree with Starfarer, you're going to have to back up your conjecture about the ".pdfs only" and "no support"

Because a company doesn't spend a lot of money to get a new release if there's no support. That makes zero business sense.

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