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Don't worry, Forar, paulson is going to do us proud

Damned right he is. 15mm and 6mm alike, this project is still tearing along at a nice pace and there are goodies for all.

Gotta say, I'm more familiar with 30'ish day campaigns. The 2 week and change approach has piqued my interest based on that alone.

Only a few days in and I've gotta say it's going well. Glad to see it won't stretch out like a month as a standard, or 6+ weeks, like one I watched early last year (spoiler alert: it had some negative backer and funding days, things got ugly at that point).

Responsive to feedback, short, sweet and to the point, if more campaigns ran this way I'd be a happy backer indeed.

I'm a tad annoyed it's not 30 days, mostly because then I could defer payments til next free paycheque. But at the same time, it's nice to see it have a clean set of goals and a short goal setup. It's kindof refreshing.

-John

Took a small break to go watch the new Captain America tonight, not too bad.

There's no real science to the naming, for the lights I went with birds of prey as they are supposed to be fast and agile also based around predators that are found in their respective local. There's a lot of bleed over between the types of animals is the Northwest and in eastern Russia so at some point I think I was like meh and switched to larger animal names. I don't know any Russian so making up impressive sounding names was a bit futile. US military stuff tends to be named after generals or the inventor but I figured I'd keep with animals as that was an easier theme.

Stretch goal stuff I've got a few ideas still behind the curtain but it's going to be a bit lighter as there's not a huge reason to flog things for a cash grab. I think the current flow pattern has been working quite well, it should give people enough to do some planning with their spending without throwing the whole show on stage at once. The current workload of models is going to keep me plenty busy. However I certainly won't turn away more funding. If it hits 30k I'll have all the models funded for the initial line and I'd prefer to let it stay there rather than scramble to push out new stuff I hadn't planned for, rushed designs would likely come off feeling weaker and of course rushed.

We're getting to the point where more funding is going to likely add a couple of months onto the delivery time. The heavies will likely move delivery back a bit to Oct or early Nov as I'll need time to do all the extra 3d work and casting.

One of the first minor purchases I'll be doing with the KS funds is buying a proper exhaust fan for my workspace. Right now it has window ventilation but it's bad and after a few hours it's like being in paint fumes for an extended period I get loopy and sometimes headaches. I'm sure in 5-7 years time I'll keel over dead with my lungs having turned into a solid brick, but I'm all gangsta like and I say "Live by the resin, die by the resin".

I'll resume all the fun times tomorrow afternoon after classes and hopefully nothing catches fire too badly while I'm away

 Forar wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Oh my god! It's tappered off, the lack of stretch goals is going to kill this campaign. You should unlock more stuff. I think the value isn't there for the lowest pledges/I'm not getting enough free stuff.

What? It's been at least three hours since we smashed a stretch goal...

PLEDGE PULLED PRE-ORDER PRE-CANCELLED RAWR!

Also, well played. THAT'S the spirit!

You guys are such chicken littles. I'm still in,

For a dollar.

But I'll go in big on the pledge manager.

Whoah, do not let the fumes get out of hand. At least make your own ventilation by getting a box fan up against that window sucking air outside.

As a society, we're way too lackadaisical about that kind of materials safety. But all the science done about it lately is proving that it's causing all sorts of chronic diseases.

Still need to have a solid read through the rules. I was initially turned off by the random card draw for initiative, but it's a system that works well in Bolt Action and it keeps the game flowing. Takes some getting used to, to not just zone out, or get up for a break the moment you finish an action with a unit while your opponent takes his turn.

Sometimes the hardest part of making, and marketing games is overcoming all the baggage from other games.

I was wondering if you have ever put any thought into making a tripod mech?

With the rules focused between the two legged ones and the Quads, I don't think a tripod work work super well. SInce one of the benefits from having a Quad is that it can still function after losing a leg, whereas a Tripod would likely be crippled after losing a leg due to it -needing- all three legs.

Just my guess anyway.

 Vertrucio wrote:
Whoah, do not let the fumes get out of hand. At least make your own ventilation by getting a box fan up against that window sucking air outside.

Sometimes the hardest part of making, and marketing games is overcoming all the baggage from other games.

I've got a box fan set up when it's not middle of winter, the problem is the airflow in the basement is wonky and it needs to travel 6-8ft before the fan grabs it. I'll be setting up a hood directly over the workbench and putting in a decidated exhaust hose so I can have it running without needing the window open every time. I've put it off for way too long considering it'll only be about $100 to set it up.


I agree with the gaming baggage concept, while the most common reaction when seeing the models is oh another battletech game it plays entirely different. I love battletech but it plays slows as hell and mecha front is very fast paced. Once people give the game a run they are surprised at how quick it is, but at first glance they have a mental picture that all mech games move slowly due to their experiences with battletech.

There's also a bit of bias in the 15mm crowd towards games centered on infantry and they expect to see every 15mm game revolving around fairly detailed depiction of squad level action, so with offering a game focused almost entirely on vhecihle and mecha it gets an negative reaction sometimes. Once they play the game it gets dispelled, but with most gaming there's a strong preconceived notion of what a game will be based on other game types (even if that notion is wildly incorrect)

I know that if somebody say hey try out this new shooter it's like call of duty it sets up a certain expectation in my mind, it might not be anything like call of duty but COD is such an familiar frame of reference for people.


Now I retreat to the real world for a few hours.

 paulson games wrote:
We're getting to the point where more funding is going to likely add a couple of months onto the delivery time. The heavies will likely move delivery back a bit to Oct or early Nov as I'll need time to do all the extra 3d work and casting.

If I might make a suggestion; that might be a good thing to put in the FAQ. You've been pretty up front regarding your time table for anyone that might have known to look here, and I think it's come up elsewhere, but I'm thinking for the general public who might just notice the project through a forum link elsewhere.

Delivery falling back to Oct/Nov doesn't bother me any, but there's always that one guy who starts getting antsy around the estimated delivery date. ... sometimes that guy is me, though as noted, that's with campaigns that play fast and loose with reality. >.>

 Forar wrote:

 paulson games wrote:
We're getting to the point where more funding is going to likely add a couple of months onto the delivery time. The heavies will likely move delivery back a bit to Oct or early Nov as I'll need time to do all the extra 3d work and casting.

If I might make a suggestion; that might be a good thing to put in the FAQ. You've been pretty up front regarding your time table for anyone that might have known to look here, and I think it's come up elsewhere, but I'm thinking for the general public who might just notice the project through a forum link elsewhere.

Delivery falling back to Oct/Nov doesn't bother me any, but there's always that one guy who starts getting antsy around the estimated delivery date. ... sometimes that guy is me, though as noted, that's with campaigns that play fast and loose with reality. >.>

What Forar really means is the following:

Paulson, I can't believe you're slipping the delivery date before the KS is even done! What kind of amateur shop is this?! Look, if you just wanted a handout that's fine - say so and I wouldn't give you money!1!!eleven

Seriously - is it worth doing in waves or would that decimate you with shipping costs? Although a 2-3 month slip isn't that bad and not really enough to split up. But you know someone will ask.

At the price he charges for shipping, compared to when I ordered from him, wave shipping would end up biting him hard.

As Forar said, an official update saying "all your stuff will be there in October 2014... but this is good because it's a)still faster than Raging Heroes and b)a lot faster than if I had done so mecha by mecha." would be the best, imho.

Also, from my experience, having a card deck randomize activation is very nice because even the best plans can't account for that. If you add in a few cards for commanders' orders and duplicate cards for Ace drivers or light Mecha, you can still have a general idea of what you want to accomplish. Sure, if luck is really not on your side, you can have a hell of a night. Aren't you glad he didn't go with my suggestion of a random interrupt, though?

What the rules need, really, is a objectives system. King of the Hill is fine for intro games and playtesting, but once you know the ropes, you need to have something external throwing kinks in your playstyle.

rigeld2 wrote:
What Forar really means is the following:

Paulson, I can't believe you're slipping the delivery date before the KS is even done! What kind of amateur shop is this?! Look, if you just wanted a handout that's fine - say so and I wouldn't give you money!1!!eleven.

Damnit, I'm already failing at providing the authentic KS experience. >.<

$149 or so from the next unlocks!

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Also, from my experience, having a card deck randomize activation is very nice because even the best plans can't account for that. If you add in a few cards for commanders' orders and duplicate cards for Ace drivers or light Mecha, you can still have a general idea of what you want to accomplish. Sure, if luck is really not on your side, you can have a hell of a night. Aren't you glad he didn't go with my suggestion of a random interrupt, though?

As someone who gets mana-screwed far, far more often than is statistically likely in Magic - I don't have high hopes for activations going according to plan.

What the rules need, really, is a objectives system. King of the Hill is fine for intro games and playtesting, but once you know the ropes, you need to have something external throwing kinks in your playstyle.

Agreed. He does have room in there for actions to do things like capturing objectives.

 paulson games wrote:
I agree with the gaming baggage concept, while the most common reaction when seeing the models is oh another battletech game it plays entirely different. I love battletech but it plays slows as hell and mecha front is very fast paced. Once people give the game a run they are surprised at how quick it is, but at first glance they have a mental picture that all mech games move slowly due to their experiences with battletech.

If this is the case, then a gameplay video would be a great idea to demonstrate the basic flow.

I am now the proud backer of this project but I wonder, you have placed tags for certain products with prices, how do we customers go about adding these products to our package for instance I am a 120 backer but I might want a few extra weapon options and some extra mechs, these are advertised on your kick starter with prices so how do I add them to my basket?

And also the rules for buildings and terrain make it easy to have objectives that require you to take out certain buildings or locations as well.

It'd be cool to have a Reinforced Building that was bristling with Defense Weaponry that one team had to protect.

mullet_steve wrote:
I am now the proud backer of this project but I wonder, you have placed tags for certain products with prices, how do we customers go about adding these products to our package for instance I am a 120 backer but I might want a few extra weapon options and some extra mechs, these are advertised on your kick starter with prices so how do I add them to my basket?

It's become a pretty common thing for Kickstarters to have "add ons" or allow for pledging multiple tiers, which this one does.

Say you wanted to add 2 Micro Lynxes to your $120 tier, you just pledge $144 ($120 + 12 + 12) and when the campaign is over, Paulson will send out a survey/pledge manager where you note what you want the extra funds to go towards.

mullet_steve wrote:
I am now the proud backer of this project but I wonder, you have placed tags for certain products with prices, how do we customers go about adding these products to our package for instance I am a 120 backer but I might want a few extra weapon options and some extra mechs, these are advertised on your kick starter with prices so how do I add them to my basket?

Just adjust your pledge total with the items added in- after the kickstarter is over- at least two weeks after- a pledge manager will be sent out where you confirm all your choices.

Ninja'ed.

Posted it to my huge local gaming group facebook page. Mabye we can get a few more people on board

Posted about it to a few other finished Kickstarters that I thought might have people with similar interests.

Including the Robotech Tactics one.

... mistakes were made.

Though I think I may have drawn in a backer or two, I didn't even think about the history there until someone reminded me.

But realizing what I'd done was kind of funny.

Yeah, that's pretty epic Forar!

Also, even with an Oct/Nov delivery date, there's a non-zero chance I'll get my Mecha Front stuff before I get RRT's first wave.

Which works on just so many levels.

Lol, i was just gonna say that might happen. I didn't back RRT and won't back anything by that company but I do find it funny that this will likely beat it to market...

Now THAT will be awesome!

I have official backed the project (not for much right now...no funds), and shared the project with my facebook group of local TT miniature gamers.

 Forar wrote:
Also, even with an Oct/Nov delivery date, there's a non-zero chance I'll get my Mecha Front stuff before I get RRT's first wave.

Which works on just so many levels.

I'd put money on it, honestly.

As mentioned the backing works like most kickstarters, you pick the highest level of reward you want, figure out what other additional add-on stuff you want and then pledge an amount that those total. When the kickstarter completes you'll get a question form that you simply check off what items you want.


I'd likewise find much humor in launching my whole kickstarter over a full year after Robotech and potentially having my full line in people's hands before they deliver on theirs. They'll like get wave one out before I get my stuff out, but considering that I'm one guy doing all the work and four companies with 30+ people it will prove that with a proper game plan and knowing what you are doing goes a lot further then mismanagement throwing money at problems to make it work. A little bit of preplanning and understanding the industry goes an incredibly long way.

(which is why I wouldn't try and jump into publishing blind as I have no experience with it, PB has been at publishing for 30 years and they still seem to have a very difficult grasp on it, wtf)

I've had a handful of the Mecha Front models available for purchase for over a year now, which also amuses me for similar reasons. Ahh Robotech it should have been a 3-4 month launch project but they just had to muck it up.

It's Palladium, what else did you expect?

It's a situation where some of us have to laugh, otherwise we'd cry.

Discussing 'the rules' (as we understand them and one dude has cobbled together along with a love of Battletech) in the RRT thread is... it's painful, guys.