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So... if everyone gets an oval base model now... DO SPACE WOLVES GET GIANT FENRISIAN BEARS!?!?!?!

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This new trend of GW leaves me cold. A flyer and a giant mecha model for every faction feels not only uncreative but also blocking the chance of seeing old models rehauled, and Eldars really do need that... With about half of all Eldar options available in Finecast, I'd much more appreciate a plastic Aspect kit (yes, even a dual). But since it's usually not more than 4-5 units per release, we will probably see only new Jetbikes and Wraithguard...

And yeah, I'm really wondering what large oval base release GW plans for SM, IG and others.

   
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 LlamaAgility wrote:
So... if everyone gets an oval base model now... DO SPACE WOLVES GET GIANT FENRISIAN BEARS!?!?!?!

Lol, a drunken bear maybe. I guess not. Space Marines will hardly get such giant walkers.

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I personally love the wraithknight (and the blurry shot of the flier looks good too) and am hoping the other eldar new or re-releases match up (especially plastic wraithguard please!).

I am not worried personally about GW re-releasing older models in plastic (except the wraithguard) as I have pretty much all the Troops and Elites I am ever going to need from the current army list.

I will pick up a Wraithknight or two, some Wraithguard, maybe a flier and some jetbikes and Scorpions/Swooping Hawks if the new rules are decent.

I would need a plastic box like the DE Reavers for me to pick up jetbikes though.


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I don't like the look of the WK at all... hat chest looks so bad and they went WAY over the top with all the bumps/gems everywhere.

Iyanden is the one that never forgot about the crons aren't they? If so.. I kinda predict the supplement will do 2 maybe 3 things

1 - Warlord Trait
2 - Iyanden Character
3 - PE: (Crons)

If I was wrong, then just the first 2 (what insaniak said)


LlamaAgility wrote:So... if everyone gets an oval base model now... DO SPACE WOLVES GET GIANT FENRISIAN BEARS!?!?!?!


If everyone will get one large based model when updated, SoB will miss out...
   
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 Makaleth wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't dislike the Wraithknight (it's not as herpaderp stupid as the Baby Carrier), I just think it's lazy (as is its name). They could have done so much more.


The name is lazy, but not bad... so I'll give that a pass..


Lazy names are just par for the course now:

Blood Angels get "Blood Fists" and "Blood Talons" and "Blood Lances"
Dark Angels get "Dark Talons" and "Dark Shrouds" then the Ravenwing have "Corvex" and "Corvus Hammers"

even Tau to some extent, Mantas, and Hammerheads, and Devilfish were one thing, but "Sunsharks" and "Razorsharks"

they just grasp at obvious themes and make the most cliched names imaginable.

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 launcelot7891 wrote:
milo wrote:
I don't see how big models for two races is such a clear sign that everyone will get them now.
Three races...
Three?

CSM - Forge/Maulerfiend
Eldar - Wraithknight
Grey Knights - Dreadknight
Tau - XV104 Riptide
Tyranids - Mawloc/Trygon, Tervigon/Tyrannofex




 
   
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Oh and the codex cover looks freakin' sweet!!

I always thought it would be a Seer on the cover as they are so iconic to the Eldar.

GW have really hit the ball out of the park on all the 40K codex covers IMO but this one tops it for me. The only one I am not as partial to is the CSM cover but even that looks good.


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 Breotan wrote:
 launcelot7891 wrote:
milo wrote:
I don't see how big models for two races is such a clear sign that everyone will get them now.
Three races...
Three?

CSM - Forge/Maulerfiend
Eldar - Wraithknight
Grey Knights - Dreadknight
Tau - XV104 Riptide
Tyranids - Mawloc/Trygon, Tervigon/Tyrannofex





Yeah, it does seem like big monsters are the way forward for GW right now. At least their choices of army have been appropriate for them.

Tyranids - always had big monsters anyway so just made them bigger
Eldar - Had Knights in the past so just an update of that
Tau - Most technologically dynamic race in the game so upscaled battlesuits were inevitable
CSM - Needed more Daemon Engines imo, the Defiler is ok but uninspired compared to the Fiends and showing its age a bit now
Grey Knights - OK they dropped the ball a bit with the baby carrier concept but it wouldn't be too hard to make an enclosed canopy would it?

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 wuestenfux wrote:
 LlamaAgility wrote:
So... if everyone gets an oval base model now... DO SPACE WOLVES GET GIANT FENRISIAN BEARS!?!?!?!

Lol, a drunken bear maybe. I guess not. Space Marines will hardly get such giant walkers.


Never say never, the trend towards mini-titans for every army is pretty strong.



I'm really looking forward to the Chibi-Stompa for Orks, though.

   
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 ergotoxin wrote:
 wuestenfux wrote:
 LlamaAgility wrote:
So... if everyone gets an oval base model now... DO SPACE WOLVES GET GIANT FENRISIAN BEARS!?!?!?!

Lol, a drunken bear maybe. I guess not. Space Marines will hardly get such giant walkers.


Never say never, the trend towards mini-titans for every army is pretty strong.



I'm really looking forward to the Chibi-Stompa for Orks, though.

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll just give us a plastic Squiggoth instead.

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I'm hoping that the new flyer will be a little bigger than the RJF - it would make a good starting point for a Void Raven.

Like the cover for the new 'dex. Slightly sinister Ulthwe vibe is nicely done.

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 wuestenfux wrote:
 LlamaAgility wrote:
So... if everyone gets an oval base model now... DO SPACE WOLVES GET GIANT FENRISIAN BEARS!?!?!?!

Lol, a drunken bear maybe. I guess not. Space Marines will hardly get such giant walkers.


Yeah, because GW wouldn't release a giant kit that's SW fluffy and ... oh, wait:

Spoiler:



All it needs are some cannons and the FENRISIAN MAMMOTH is ready to go!

Fenrisian Mammoth - The Fenrisian Mammoth is a gigantic shaggy quadruped evolutionarily similar to the ancient and extinct Terran Mastodon. It can crush a man beneath its great padded feet or skewer him on its long ivory tusks.

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 Sidstyler wrote:
 Fezman wrote:
Wraith Knight looks like a Wave Serpent Transformer. Transporting it could be interesting, to say the least.

At this rate, with the bigger is better approach, the next Guard Codex will have Warhounds...


No, because FW already make warhounds. That's why none of the other cool FW models (like the CSM hell blade or the Tau barracuda) got turned into plastic with their army updates, despite the fact that it would be stupidly easy to do so (if they can do the heldrake they can do the hell blade, same with the sun shark and barracuda), and we instead got ugly new designs that don't really fit with their armies and look more like children's toys than models. Why convert a more expensive model into a more affordable plastic kit when you can just sell the more expensive model? Surely people will want it badly enough that they'll have to pay for it, right?

So Guard will either get a gigantic ogryn mutant or a super sentinel. If it's the latter then the pilot will be strapped to the outside of it and completely exposed to enemy fire, because feth it, we don't care anymore, 12-year-olds will buy anything. It'll also be the first 40k kit to feature spring-loaded ammunition so that it can actually shoot at other models on the table, and as you can imagine you will be expected to pay a premium for this new revolution in miniature wargaming. Naturally, people who will whine about their ridiculously-overpriced models or paint jobs getting damaged just take the game too seriously and should either lighten up or play chess. Besides, GW games and models aren't meant to be played with anyway, they're art pieces for collectors (because that gives us more protection when suing the crap out of everyone for IP infringement).


I think your second paragraph will turn out to be more true than you think. I was only joking about Titans (with hindsight I could have joked that they would make it the next step up from the big centrepiece models, and you'd need an oval base for each foot), but I do think IG will end up with some sort of big humanoid walker thing that will then be retconned into the fluff. Ditto for probably every other army eventually, maybe even leading to something like the WD flyer rules...the super-special limited edition "Stompy Walkers Rules" WD issue.

I think the Wraith Knight looks too burly and and too busy. They should IMO have taken a design cue from overall aesthetic of the FW Eldar Titans and gone for a more slender, lightweight look. So with that in mind, for this release I'm mostly interested in seeing any new infantry.

EDIT

OK, I do quite like the sword on the WK.

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I like the WK.

Having a pilot inside justifies the bulky body for me (This is better than baby carrier). Head is big enough (not too big as in Wraithlord, not too small as in Riptide). Maybe we see weapon/weapon loadouts, apart from weapon/shield. And that shields reminds me of that from Dire Avengers (older than riptide).

I like the flyer too. Both of them are very Eldar, and that's good. As someone else said, I prefer this than the extra-original models for CSM (Heldrake, Forgefiend) that I will never buy for my CSM army.

I'm considering (more pics needed) to buy a Wraithknight just to paint it (I play no Eldar).

About Iyanden supplement.... That's silly. Again, I share someone else opinion: this is a day 1 DLC. At least, some videogames allow pre-orders that include that DLC for free. I would like to see the face of an Iyanden player when told that he needs 2 books to play his army. At least, Blood angels, Space wolves and so, don't need C:SM to play.

So.... thinking.... Should we expect a "Back Templars - A Codex:Space Marines supplement"?

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garrapignado wrote:

So.... thinking.... Should we expect a "Back Templars - A Codex:Space Marines supplement"?


Now that you mention it, that doesn't sound impossible. If it sells well, it could lead to a new book for each Craftworld, followed by ones for IG regiments (well, apart from the metal ones if they get discontinued) C:SM Chapters, etc...I don't like the idea but I wouldn't be surprised either.

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1.) There will only be one flyer kit with two options. The bomber will have a two section rudder. The other two plastic kits seem to be the Wraithguard (incl cc variant) and the jet bikes, both needing it badly. IMHO, the Guardians, Farseers, tanks and aspect warriors are all fine and don't need a new model. Maybe add the female farseer people are waiting for for 10+ years.
2.) In principle, I like the idea of craftworld supplements. The background is rich enough to justify a list variation. If GW actually fills the book with content to justify the price, we will see. BTW this could also be what GW plans for Black Templar, fitting the very few rumours.
3.) Wraithknight name and design are lazy as can be (Eldar riptide etc), showing that model ideas and unit concepts are still done in less than 5 seconds. But I like the design more than the Eldar Titans by Forge World and Armorcast and Epic. Even as an Eldar fan, I was never before tempted by Titans because of their uglyness.

Edit: I type too slowly, ninja'd on the BT idea

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I don't like the idea of the Iyanden supplement either, especially as it appears to simply be a few extra rules that could easily have made it into the Codex.

Also, not that I am complaining as an Eldar player, but why is it they are releasing supplements for Craftworlds and not other armies like the Chaos Traitor Legions?

They could do with supplemental rules just as much imo.

The one thing that really puts me off with this supplement is that it appears at this stage to be digital only. No way would I buy an Ipad just for this, even if I played Iyanden.

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 Fezman wrote:
garrapignado wrote:

So.... thinking.... Should we expect a "Back Templars - A Codex:Space Marines supplement"?


Now that you mention it, that doesn't sound impossible. If it sells well, it could lead to a new book for each Craftworld, followed by ones for IG regiments (well, apart from the metal ones if they get discontinued) C:SM Chapters, etc...I don't like the idea but I wouldn't be surprised either.


Not so bad now that digital versions of the White Dwarf issues can be available forever. It was a problem when they put important rules in magazines that would go out of print and be impossible to find. If they moved to putting new rules for an IG army, SM chapter, CSM chapter or Craftworld in each WD, then collected them periodically into a print publication, they could add a lot of value to WD.
   
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milo wrote:
Not so bad now that digital versions of the White Dwarf issues can be available forever. It was a problem when they put important rules in magazines that would go out of print and be impossible to find. If they moved to putting new rules for an IG army, SM chapter, CSM chapter or Craftworld in each WD, then collected them periodically into a print publication, they could add a lot of value to WD.

Or they could add a 400$ iPad to the hobby starter bundle (starter box, glue, spray) ... or an English lexicon for the printed version.

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GW releases entirely new unit. Dakka: "GW never does anything creative. They're lazy."

Ahhh, Dakka, you're more predictable (and lazy) than GW itself.

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 Kroothawk wrote:
milo wrote:
Not so bad now that digital versions of the White Dwarf issues can be available forever. It was a problem when they put important rules in magazines that would go out of print and be impossible to find. If they moved to putting new rules for an IG army, SM chapter, CSM chapter or Craftworld in each WD, then collected them periodically into a print publication, they could add a lot of value to WD.

Or they could add a 400$ iPad to the hobby starter bundle (starter box, glue, spray) ... or an English lexicon for the printed version.


Or simply make their digital content available on Android...

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Warhammer 40000: Codex Eldar104 page full colour, hardback Warhammer 40,000 CodexContains New Artwork, Background and rules whilst showcasing the fantastic miniature range

Warhammer 40000: Eldar WraithknightThis box contains a multipart plastic kit that makes one Eldar Wraithknight, this completely new Walker stands a massive 9 inches tall and can be constructed with a variety of armaments to fulfill a range of battlefield roles.

Warhammer 40000: Eldar Hemlock Wraithfighter/ Crimson HunterThis box contains a multipart plastic kit that makes either a Hemlock Wraithfighter or a Crimson Hunter, both new Eldar Flyers. The Hemlock Wraithfighter is a Psychicly armed bomber designer to cause havoc among enemy troops while the Crimson Hunter is an all new aspect warrior class whom excel at aerial combat.

Warhammer 40000: Eldar Wraithguard/WraithbladesThis box contains a multipart plastic kit that makes either 5 Wraithguards previously only available in metal or 5 Wraithblades, a new type of deadly close combat warrior.

Warhammer 40000: Eldar FarseerA plastic Clamp pack containing 1 Eldar Hero in a dynamic mid-casting posse.

Reformatted Warhammer 40000: Eldar Battle ForceContains 10 Eldar Guardians and a Heavy Weapon Platform, 5 Dire Avengers (including the option of making an Exarch), a Wave Serpent and a Vyper Jetbike

Reformatted Warhammer 40000: Eldar Dire AvengersThe Dire Avengers squad has been repackaged as a five miniature boxed set (including the option of making an Exarch)

New Finecast ReleasesWarhammer 40000: Illic Nightspear· A clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature sculpted by Edgar Ramos. Illic Nightspear is an outcast who has become an deadly assassin armed with the sniper rifle Voidbringer.

Warhammer 40000: Eldar Spiritseer· A clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature sculpted by Mike Fores. Armed with a Witch Staff and spirit stone wearing a distinctive eyeless helm.Available While Stocks LastThese Items are highly limited, please request the quantity you require and we will supply you as close to this number as we can.

Warhammer 40,000 Psychic Cards: Eldar·This pack contains 14 reference cards that describe the effects of each of the Primaris Powers and the the six psychic powers available to each area of mastery


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The Riptide can't be a giant death robot, its completely lacking a sword or massive chainsaw. All giant death robots have swords or massive chainsaws.
 
   
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Disappointing that there are no mentions of new jetbikes in that list
   
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From some unnamed 4chan source, quoted on Warseer:
I hope I'm not slowpoking but got e-mail from my bfriendly retailer with new **** for Eldars listed...
New boxes:
WRAITHGUARD / WRAITHBLADES
WRAITHFIGHTER / INTERCEPTOR
ELDAR WRAITHKNIGHT
and add to that plastic farseer
Repacked:
DIRE AVENGERS - half the box, and the same price (not sure as I always seen them cheap)
WINDRIDER JETBIKE SQUAD - 3 OLD jetbikes.

No finecast mentioned (Wtf?)

GW I'm sooooo disappoint

(...)
Just to add some details.
The full name for the flyers is Hemlock Wraithfighter and Nightshade Interceptor.

The Wraithknight is 23 cm tall

edit/update:
about* 23 cm tall

And one more thing - the eldar supplement was not mentioned in the offer, but it could be available later with finecast.

I really hope this is just a bad joke.

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It was a problem when they put important rules in magazines that would go out of print and be impossible to find.

That's only been a problem comparatively recently. Back when they first started printing rules in WD, you could still buy back issues for years after the issue was released.

 
   
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Yeah, really don't like the model, not one bit.
Plus, the digital mini-dex is a real turn off too, I simply refuse to give apple any money whatsoever, I detest their business practices and will not support them.

So, the Eldar are looking to be a good release then /sarcasm.
   
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Im sure the Wraith knight will look awesome in real life and with posing/paintjob to fit my own army, Im sure to be proud to put it on the table.
(I admit, next to the riptide, the riptide looks far, far cooler, but only in comparison between 2D pictures so far).

Still, Im puzzeled to the general etethics of it (as many other has wented).
It has a peculiar shaped armour to represent a muscled athlete rather than the smooth limbs of a dancer that, IMO, fit better with the eldar style.
Perhaps they wanted something to break from the FW styled walkers both in estethics and function.
And no, I dont think it looks like a upscaled wraithlord, and most certainly not as a riptide.

Well, I guess I didnt have anything new to say after all.

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 insaniak wrote:
milo wrote:
It was a problem when they put important rules in magazines that would go out of print and be impossible to find.

That's only been a problem comparatively recently. Back when they first started printing rules in WD, you could still buy back issues for years after the issue was released.


Plus GW periodically did WD rule compendiums too, so you could always buy the rules even if you couldn't find the WD.
   
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 JohnnyHell wrote:
GW doesn't update army. Dakka: "GW never does anything creative. They're lazy."

GW releases entirely new unit. Dakka: "GW never does anything creative. They're lazy."

Ahhh, Dakka, you're more predictable (and lazy) than GW itself.
Dakka is not a hive mind organism. It's hardly surprising that in a community of thousands, people have opinions on what is going on...

 
   
 
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