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Heh dont get me started on Battle Missions. Stil have to find the person at our store, that considers that thing worth the money youd need to spend.

Now yes were all voting with our wallet on that one, stop bringing out books that no one needs. Eldar all get outflanking for a special scenario, as if veteran gamers who are fed up with the 3 standard missions cant think if something like that for themselves when doind a campaign for example :S.

Battle Missions is selling quite well at my local stores and I rather enjoy picking my way through it myself.

bravelybravesirrobin wrote:
The current model is IIRC the oldest thing in the current 40k range. It is laughably out of scale with the rest of the range and especially with other orks. And it has no rokkits! Which are the only things anyone uses them for on the tabletop anyway.

No it actually a multi-melta for when orks used imperial guns, so there goes the WYSIWYG right out of the window. There was once a suggestion that you should use it as a Kustom Mega Blasta (aka plasma cannon) in the ork 3rd edition codex. Now it has no use what-so-ever as it looks nothing alike the new Kustom Mega Blasta.

And with the new Killa Kans and Deff Dread I think that makes it pritty much a certainty that their will be new buggy/track on the way. Wonder if the skorcha will be included in the kit or as an upgrade pack???

In regards to the silliest stuff they've been releasing:

eg. Marines on giant wolves = Space Wolves, Marines with angels wings = Blood Angels...will the Dark Angels be dark?

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Imperial Guard Leman Russ Battle tank - price as the new demolisher

It better be more than just a Russ. We don't want another Basilisk on our hands.

Im going to throw a wild guess , but this time it will have a heavy bolter but missing a heavy flamer

You mean like the LS Storm with a heavy bolter inside but missing the heavy flamer that would negate their not so good BS ^^.

I don't know if many people here read warseer as well as dakka dakka but over in their spearhead there are some frankly crazy awesome rumours being thrown around.

A couple of guys, and these are guys supposedly in the know, not nobody's, are saying Eldar will be getting some new stuff (not just a fire prism), guard are expecting a manticore, hydra and deathstrike combo kit (I find this hard to swallow but otoh they'd never sell the deathstrike on it's own) in addition to the new leman russ.

Not to mention the teasing talk of eldar superheavy's and the stormraven coming later in the year.

It's getting very hard to discern fact from fiction.

If the hydra/maticore/deathstrike rumour is true though, it'll be a must have for my Ork projects.

Gargskull wrote:

It's getting very hard to discern fact from fiction.

Stray ye not to Warseer, for that way lies insanity...

...and the blue on black writing makes my head hurt

Lol, you can change that, first thing I did.

ct Gamer said:

close quarter/instillation invasion (fighting inside tunnel/bunker complexes a la Space Hulk)?

Those rules already exist in Imperial armour four.

Argh Gamesworkshop seem intent on stopping me collecting a full army, just started full infantry IG.

I don't think they'll release an Eldar superheavy without making a new Codex first.

Anung Un Rama wrote:I don't think they'll release an Eldar superheavy without making a new Codex first.

Apocalypse kits don't require a new codex.

The Eldar superheavy rumours are quite consistent and frequent, GW have been doing an apocalypse release once a year since it's launch too.

Lorgar's Herald wrote:

ct Gamer said:

close quarter/instillation invasion (fighting inside tunnel/bunker complexes a la Space Hulk)?

Those rules already exist in Imperial armour four.

Argh Gamesworkshop seem intent on stopping me collecting a full army, just started full infantry IG.

Yes I know, but GW is not above bringing things from FW into the official side of things: take Baneblades for example.

The Cobra and Scorpion are both pretty simple kits to make but do you really think they would release an Eldar kit before a Thunderhawk?

don't know if many people here read warseer as well as dakka dakka but over in their spearhead there are some frankly crazy awesome rumours being thrown around.

The operative words here are "crazy" and "rumours". A lot of that sounds too good to be true and it might be best to moderate expectations till more information is available so as not to be disappointed in June.

Spamming marine codices is not enough now GW has to spam strange mission books. From a business perspective I suppose writing some half-cocked mission books to accompany new model releases is the way to go. Compared to the development of the models the cost of the books is a pittance.

BrassScorpion wrote:

don't know if many people here read warseer as well as dakka dakka but over in their spearhead there are some frankly crazy awesome rumours being thrown around.

The operative words here are "crazy" and "rumours". A lot of that sounds too good to be true and it might be best to moderate expectations till more information is available so as not to be disappointed in June.

Oh I do, I'm not new to internet rumour mills I can assure you.

I've already gotten over the fact that new Ork buggies in june was just poo poo'ed yesterday.

Latest from GW on this:

This June the Imperial Guard unveil yet more of their armoured might. However they are not the only force ready to unleash powerful, death dealing weapons.

The manafactorums have been working overtime this past year to supply the frontline regiments with tanks to pound the enemies of the Imperium into dust. This summer they're stepping up production once more as yet more vehicles rumble off the production lines.

Not to be outdone by the Imperial Guard, the Bonesingers of the enigmatic Eldar have begun to craft new and elegant vehicles. In June the Eldar are gaining several new plastic kits, including a brand new tank. You can find all the information you need, including the rules and background for this vehicle, in White Dwarf 366.

Brother SRM wrote:Latest from GW on this:

This June the Imperial Guard unveil yet more of their armoured might. However they are not the only force ready to unleash powerful, death dealing weapons.

The manafactorums have been working overtime this past year to supply the frontline regiments with tanks to pound the enemies of the Imperium into dust. This summer they're stepping up production once more as yet more vehicles rumble off the production lines.

Not to be outdone by the Imperial Guard, the Bonesingers of the enigmatic Eldar have begun to craft new and elegant vehicles. In June the Eldar are gaining several new plastic kits, including a brand new tank. You can find all the information you need, including the rules and background for this vehicle, in White Dwarf 366.

I'm going to cry if they don't stop teasing me.

Several new kits for Eldar? So, I would guess at least 3.

New Tank (Web spinner?)
Fire Prism (combined with Webspinner)
We have seen Jetbikes, will they finally appear?

Please, dear Lord, Wraithguard?

Well that's just more or less confirmed the warseer rumour's I was referring to earlier.

The new tank is rumoured to be a, er, I think it was called a fire storm?

I personally think this is completely silly concept, but of course there will be enough people around to buy into it and spend money on new kits as well (only £ 49.90 )

Massed tank battles on 40k table? Did they miss a game called EPIC?

Some of us already have large collections of vehicles and rather enjoy games that encourage their use. I never had any interest in Epic, I like using the larger models I'm already painting in large quantities. Judging by the success of Apocalypse, I'm not alone.

Rules for models in White Dwarf? The last time that happened, Doomrider came to be. I can't wait to return to the heady days of the early 90s GW. Stock up on red paint now!

Scottywan82 wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Latest from GW on this:

This June the Imperial Guard unveil yet more of their armoured might. However they are not the only force ready to unleash powerful, death dealing weapons.

The manafactorums have been working overtime this past year to supply the frontline regiments with tanks to pound the enemies of the Imperium into dust. This summer they're stepping up production once more as yet more vehicles rumble off the production lines.

Not to be outdone by the Imperial Guard, the Bonesingers of the enigmatic Eldar have begun to craft new and elegant vehicles. In June the Eldar are gaining several new plastic kits, including a brand new tank. You can find all the information you need, including the rules and background for this vehicle, in White Dwarf 366.

I'm going to cry if they don't stop teasing me.

Several new kits for Eldar? So, I would guess at least 3.

New Tank (Web spinner?)
Fire Prism (combined with Webspinner)
We have seen Jetbikes, will they finally appear?

Please, dear Lord, Wraithguard?

A new Eldar tank outside of the Codex does suggest an Apocalypse release. However, I too will be praying harder for plastic Wraithguard.

Lorgar's Herald wrote:

ct Gamer said:

close quarter/instillation invasion (fighting inside tunnel/bunker complexes a la Space Hulk)?

Those rules already exist in Imperial armour four.

And GW already did Boarding Party rules during 4th in an obscure 40K/BFG crossover book that I seem to be the only person to remember being released(seriously, I can't find it anywhere online).

Basically, it was small point games with no vehicles(except maybe dreads, it's been awhile) and a restriction on the types and strength of weapons(no Meltas, nothing over St 7, IIRC, because those things would puncture the hull).

That actually got released? I remember that they were working and planning on it, but I never heard of anything else about it. Was supposed to be called "Battlezone: Zeropoint" or something like that. They kept being excited about it and wanting to do it at the two Games Days following the Eye of Terror event--and then just stopped talking about it.

To clear up what was said in the Warseer thread.

First, as quoted above, it is about the Spearhead releases in June, accompanied by rules and stuff in WD #366 (and supported by the website). The GW text confirms several new IG tanks and several new Eldar plastic kits, including a new tank. So they are not Apocalypse releases.

Daemon Prince Adramalech added the following cryptic vision:

Daemon Prince Adramalech wrote:The veil parts...

Through the mists the daemon spies a great battle raging on the surface of a long forgotten world. The hammer of the Corpse God is being wielded against the bright soul sparks of an ancient race much coveted by one of his kind. Missile after missile streak over head, launched from the humans crude mechanical workhorses. Tanks in the shape of wolves hurtle across the battlefield of every type imaginable.

Across the battlefield graceful tanks float unhindered across the carnage, some with shining crystal shards, pulsing with energy, destroying tanks with every flicker. Others unleashing a black morass, slicing humans to pieces with every burst. To the south a group of bright soul sparks fire a weapon that hits one of the wulfen tanks with a screech born not of this realm. A hole opens and the tank folds down as if being crushed and disapears into the baleful glow of the portal, the lesser daemons feed well on the pitiful human sparks contained within the metal beast.

As the battle rages the daemon draws back sensing that it will soon reach its zenith. The sky turns red as if the clouds themselves are a flame, the daemon sees a brief glimpse of a missile larger than any that has come before. As the fiery clouds part the bright soul sparks flicker in fear, the corpse god has sent them a gift...

The vision fades, the veil draws close....the daemon smiles.

People familiar with Eldar and Imperial background concluded the following
1.) "Hammer of the Corpse God" = IG vs. "bright soul sparks of an ancient race" = Eldar
2.) Manticore, maybe including variants like Deathstrike ("Missile after missile")
3.) Leman Russ, much expected ("Tanks in the shape of wolves")
4.) Full plastic Fire Prism tank ("shining crystal shards")
5.) Night Spinner, new tank, maybe combined with Fire Prism tank kit ("black morass, slicing humans to pieces")
6.) Eldar heavy weapon platform with a.o. a D-cannon ("A hole opens and the tank folds down")
7.) Deathstrike Missile, see Manticore entry ("missile larger than any")

Summary: One Manticore/DeathStrike (/Hydra? probably not) kit, one Leman Russ recut, one Fire Prism/Night Spinner kit plus one Eldar heavy weapon platform kit, all 4 fully plastic. According to BramGaunt, all tank kits are priced like the Demolisher.

Short reminder: Deathstrike missile was originally launched by a Chimera chassis:
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k327/mockier/Shogo%20Tech%20Guard/Deathstrike%20Missile%20Launcher/MK2Deathstrike.jpg

The Eldar superheavy talk in that thread was just a misinterpretation of "2 Eldar tanks a tad bigger than a Predator" (= Falcon hull). Some people still hope for plastic Wraith Guard and Jetbike releases, no evidence yet on their release. Anyway, Daemon Prince Adramalech adds:

Heh i've redone my entire Eldar army purely for whats coming in the next 8 months.
(...)Heh that would be telling but everything is mechanised now for a start :-)

BTW Daemon Prince Adramalech also strongly hints at Grey Knights being the SM release in autumn.

Kanluwen wrote:That actually got released? I remember that they were working and planning on it, but I never heard of anything else about it. Was supposed to be called "Battlezone: Zeropoint" or something like that. They kept being excited about it and wanting to do it at the two Games Days following the Eye of Terror event--and then just stopped talking about it.

It wasn't called Battlezone anything when released, though. It was released more as a BFG release, and features a small vignette on the cover of some Bridge Officers(and I think a Marine) discussing a chart by a huge window with BFG ships in space.

The release White Dwarf had Black Templar vs Word Bearer mini-batrep followed by a BFG mini-batrep that used the rules of how one battle affects another for linking the two systems.

Edit: Remembered the name, it was Battlefleet Gothic: Invasion.

I remember what you're talking about now. It was about the size of the old Warhammer Fantasy: Skirmish booklet. Cost $19.99 MSRP and was a really shoddily made thing bound like an old Discovery magazine.

Yep.