Is the Emperor going to die in 40k 6th Edition?

Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:

No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.

If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

**DarthSpader**

kill him... or better yet, a DE raiding force attacks, captures him, and uses him as a practice target in the arenas during then day, and then rents him out for "emprah rides" in the evening. much pain and fun to be had by all.

**b1soul**

Highly unlikely
Games Workshop treats 40K as a setting, not a evolving storyline. They'll probably continue fleshing out the universe before moving it forward...and there's a lot to flesh out

**Draigo**

I heard gw confirmed movin out of the age of man.

**Kaldor**

Mukkin'About wrote:While it would seriously be a good move for GW to do something new and exciting like advance the storyline.

Well, you gotta remember it's a setting not a storyline. I'd hate it if they advanced it. I like things the way they are.

**McNinja**

Kaldor wrote:
Mukkin'About wrote:While it would seriously be a good move for GW to do something new and exciting like advance the storyline.

Well, you gotta remember it's a setting not a storyline. I'd hate it if they advanced it. I like things the way they are.

You can't advance a setting.

As it is, it's like playing Mass Effect 2, except instead of actually going after the Collectors you continually fight more and more battles against them. It'd get stale and old really quick, even if you were given history upon hsitory and dozens more characters. The story has been the same since what, 3rd edition? They need to move something forward. For a galaxy consumed in war, the status quo has been maintained for a surprisingly long time.

**Kaldor**

McNinja wrote:You can't advance a setting.

Exactly ;-)

As it is, it's like playing Mass Effect 2, except instead of actually going after the Collectors you continually fight more and more battles against them. It'd get stale and old really quick, even if you were given history upon hsitory and dozens more characters. The story has been the same since what, 3rd edition? They need to move something forward. For a galaxy consumed in war, the status quo has been maintained for a surprisingly long time.

Mass Effect is a role playing game, where the main attraction is uncovering and experiencing the story, which isn't really analogous to 40K.

40K needs a precipice like setting, on the verge of a massive shift of power, but never quite happeing, in a galaxy large enough that you can fight your own battles. I'd hate for it to advance.

**ifStatement**

If they kill the emperor off the background section had better be BL novel length to explain the mess it leaves everything in.

**Bouregard**

No he won't die but maybe this will happen instead:

AdMech manages to fix the Golden Throne similar to fixing a fusion reactor with duct tape and spit.

However here comes the problem: They will now need roughly ten times as much psykers each day to power it also the AdMech discovered that you can also use geneseed to power the throne for a bit longer.

The IoM now has to start a few new crusades to find more psykers and will even start to feed captured xenos to the Golden Throne.
Also some Chapters don't take kindly to seeing their geneseed shiped of as fuel.
Further the massive effort raised to repair the Golden Throne is noticed by the general populance. Rumours start that the Golden Throne is failing. While Inquisition, Ministorium and those police dudes crack down hard on everyone voicing doubts about the future, there will be even more heretic cults and people wanting to join the Tau.

GW can use this to justify quite a few new big Apocalypse battles.

**Durza**

It'll most likely remain exactly the way it was.

**b1soul**

Draigo wrote:I heard gw confirmed movin out of the age of man.

That would be moving out of the age of business

**DarkWind**

Mukkin'About wrote:While it would seriously be a good move for GW to do something new and exciting like advance the storyline... I can't help but think that no matter what they do none of you will be satisfied with it.
Just look at all the hate that follows every codex release / new models and you'll see that It's probably safer for GW not to rock the boat.
Props to them if they actually do move the storyline forward though.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT!!!!

Any who If they did go through with the Emperor Dieing and being reborn ect... they would have to make a counter event because as we all know all is never well in the 40K vurse. If they did go through with this (which would explain why we keep getting new Imperial Dexes all the time) then they have to do something to counter it say....... The Chaos Gods Revive Horus?

**SomeRandomEvilGuy**

DarkWind wrote:If they did go through with this (which would explain why we keep getting new Imperial Dexes all the time) then they have to do something to counter it say....... The Chaos Gods Revive Horus?

Horus can't be brought back. His soul was destroyed.

Besides which, the Emperor reborn wouldn't still have his compassion for Horus. As such, Horus wouldn't be as much as a threat (since the Emperor would go all out immediately rather than holding back).

**Mr Morden**

I just figured they would Astropath Tech Priest Support who would tell them to disconect the Throne for 10 seconds and then reconnect it - job done

**RaptorsTalon**

I once read/was told something that said Cypher of the Dark Angles wanted to kill the emporer and birth the star child. And the image on the spines of the WD shows a dark angel, but only for a small part of the height of the spine. My thoughts are preahps, as the image develops, we will see that it is indeed cypher killing the emporer. This would move the story on and out of the age of man.

I have no idea if this has been mentioned before, and this is only my opinion, but what do you think?

**Gorskar.da.Lost**

It's pretty unlikely, but eh. You never know.
Perhaps we'll get another global campaign to decide a chunk of new fluff instead. That'd be pretty neat.

**kshaw2000**

1hadhq wrote:
fluffywyvern wrote:My friends and I were thinking about what GW might do for the next edition of 40k. One of the things we discussed is that in the 5th edition Rulebook fluff, it mentions that the Adeptus on Terra are no longer able to fix the throne that keeps the Emperor alive. If this was followed through to it's logical conclusion I think that this will happen:

1) The Emperor will die in 6th edition plunging mankind into disarray

2) Chaos will take the opportunity to make a massive offensive on Terra. GW will therefore make the 6th edition boxset Marines versus Chaos. Probably some massive gaming event to go with it also.

3) To balance things out, the Emperor may use his power before he dies to bring back some Primarchs who have been lost/fallen.

4) The first codex after this would probably be Chaos.

1) => all Gates broken.
2) => most human worlds overrun with demons
3) => exile Mankind, leave this Galaxy and start anew, lead by the Primarchs.
4) => yes, multiple chaos codices.
5) => smaller species extinct, Eldar leave too, Tau squatted because Nids/orks/chaos/necrons are still there, IoM discontinued.
6) => orks, evil elfs, bugs and robots isn't so interesting. GW finally collapsed.
7) => new company just wants to loot the carcass of 40k : reboot game as WH 30k. New kits? NO, new repacked old kits...

or

1) => Emperor just lost his anchor in the material realm
2) => chaos offensive.
3) => campaign to contact the "lost" Emperor.
4) => C'tan takes over Mars and most of the IoM.
5) => rise of the C'Tan levels the threats again, chaos shut off because the "great plan" is in place and running.
6) => last stand of smaller species and newbies like Tau. Eldar leave.
7) => Necrons destroy every single Hive fleet. Infected planets are moved into the next black hole.
8) => Necron use a fungizid to remove orks.
9) => finally the campaign has success and contact with the Emperor is re-established.
10) => obviously the glourious leader of Mankind didn't twiddle his thumbs where he made unwillingly "holidays", a virus is spread through Necron systems.
11) => Necrons can't stop dancing, the few C'Tan cannot withstand the wrath of the enslaved.
12) => Galaxy is a burning wreck. Eldar ask if its over, so they could return. Emperor orders them to be chained to the still dancing necrons for all eternity.

doubt it daemons, necrons and nids being the largest threat I do not belive the hive fleets would be wiped out completely. actually I think they would thrive in it. First catachan would be re attacked and the nid will have learnt a lesson, then hive fleet behemoth ploughs through terra and other imperail worlds

**Gorskar.da.Lost**

kshaw2000 wrote:doubt it daemons, necrons and nids being the largest threat I do not belive the hive fleets would be wiped out completely. actually I think they would thrive in it. First catachan would be re attacked and the nid will have learnt a lesson, then hive fleet behemoth ploughs through terra and other imperail worlds

It'd have a hard time doing that, given that Behemoth pretty much no longer exists as a Hive Fleet any more.

**Durza**

RaptorsTallon wrote:I once read/was told something that said Cypher of the Dark Angles wanted to kill the emporer and birth the star child. And the image on the spines of the WD shows a dark angel, but only for a small part of the height of the spine. My thoughts are preahps, as the image develops, we will see that it is indeed cypher killing the emporer. This would move the story on and out of the age of man.

I have no idea if this has been mentioned before, and this is only my opinion, but what do you think?

Cypher is an unknown quantity, all that's really known about him is that his sword is broken and it's thought to be the Lion's sword. The Fallen claim that he's going to redeem them all somehow, but they tend not be believed for some reason.

**Omegus**

Emperor dead = no more Astronomicon = no more Imperium = this ain't ever gonna happen

**Brother Coa**

Emperor is not going to die you guys...
He is going to resurrect and kick Chaos a** big time.
Primarchs will return to lead their Legions, and all will be fine at last.

**AtariAssasin**

It's gotten to the point where I don't really care WHAT happens, just so long as something does. For a game with such a devoted fan base of people who love the fluff, we don't really get a whole lot of fuel in regards to new story. I don't see why GW can't continue to be profitable while progressing the storyline....

**King Pariah**

I agree with whoever said that there would have to be a counter event to the Emperor being reborn. I'd vote Fabius Bile makes a new black pariah who becomes a scourge of the galaxy and helps Chaos bust through Cadia.

**Draigo**

b1soul wrote:
Draigo wrote:I heard gw confirmed movin out of the age of man.

That would be moving out of the age of business

Why? Emprah dies he just goes into the warp as a god, reborn in a new child or any number of things. That wouldnt be awful... Then in the new sm codex they could make custodes an hq choice or something since theyre not guarding the throne. Change doesnt mean game suicide. It could also allow the crusade through the eye and make the setting like another heresy as in a massive war through out the galaxy waiting for the emprah or whatever.

**Commissar41.0**

The Emporer die?GOOD now all of us Tyranids will find the exact location of the astronomicon and go non nom noming on terra like we did on Ultramar (remember that Ultramarine players?) besides we already have Genestealers there waiting. We just do what we did in the Black Nebula (see fall of Jormungandr)

P.s. how do you pronounce that? I always thought it was Jorga-mun-der?

**King Pariah**

IF the emperor dies, the astronomicon vanishes and nids won't be making headway towards terra anymore...

**Void__Dragon**

Omegus wrote:Emperor dead = no more Astronomicon = no more Imperium = this ain't ever gonna happen

Best answer.

**1hadhq**

King Pariah wrote:IF the emperor dies, the astronomicon vanishes and nids won't be making headway towards terra anymore...

He focuses it, he doesn't run it.
So no, it won't vanish. Just less attracting. But the nids are here and hungry, so to move on they still choose to consume all biomass.
I'd hope the emperor has a long life, if I'd be a non-human as the moment the nids aren't heading towards terra.....

All you can eat

**Ignatius**

Does the emperor have a conscience thought? Or is his mind simply going on "auto-pilot" and doing everything it is doing on its own?

If he can think, then I would think that he knows that the thing keeping him anchored in the materium is failing, and I'm assuming he would know best what would happen if he weren't on the throne any longer. That being said, I would think he would be creating some sort of exit strategy for when he finally kicks it.

Like say, focusing his energies to do a myriad of things. Perhaps it's a direct blow to chaos, to cripple them for long enough for the Imperium a moments respite. Or it could be for the astronomican to resonate for a period of time, maybe long enough for him to be found again and re light the light as it was.

Just a theory

Anyway, I would be in favor of the Emperor dying. Even though I am one of those 'For the Emperor" Guard players.

**Kaldor**

Commissar41.0 wrote:
P.s. how do you pronounce that? I always thought it was Jorga-mun-der?

I'm pretty sure it's yor-mun-gander

**CuddlySquig**

It took the Eye of Terror worldwide campaign to kill eldrad. It's going to take GW a lot more than 6th edition to bump off the guy on the golden throne.