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...urrrr... I dunno

biccat wrote:
Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:
DukeBadham wrote:If he raped her, in any sense of the word, he deserves to suffer, for what he has done, not over the top but the proper amount.

I'm not sure where this came from, there are no allegations of rape being made.
Still, can't say I don't agree, but I don't think it occurred.

Statutory rape is the implication throughout this thread.


EDIT: I see now. Alright, now the claims make more sense to me.

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Melissia wrote:Stopping power IS a deterrent. The bigger a hole you put in them the more deterred they are.

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Ma55ter_fett wrote:Strangely enough it seems as though a few people on here are hoping there was statutory rape, for no other reason than they want him thrown into jail.

I don't know why you would wish the worst on the girl just so you can justify your violent thoughts (directed towards the guy) to yourselves.

Here’s a thought, how about you pray that everything was above board and no laws were broken and he didn’t violate her.

Because the alternative is quite terrible.

Don’t go saying that I’m being soft on him, or I’m on his side, because I’m not.

If he broke the law (raped her), then lock him up.

If he didn’t then thank god


Bingo. This is what we mean. Ma55ter_fett has summed it up perfectly.

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Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:
DukeBadham wrote:
If he raped her, in any sense of the word, he deserves to suffer, for what he has done, not over the top but the proper amount.

I'm not sure where this came from, there are no allegations of rape being made.
Still, can't say I don't agree, but I don't think it occurred.

Just to clear up, I never said he did, or implied it, just saying if he did. I meant that in the event he did, he deserves to pay.

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Was she hot? I'd totally bang a cougar for some minis.

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Hazardous Harry wrote:
Castiel wrote:I think what KC is saying is there are worse things out there to get this angry about. Sure its odd, but it is legal. Wishing the man a lifetime of misery because of it is a bit of an over reaction. Also, how do we know she didn't pursue him? It doesn't say who initiated the relationship.


Necroshea seems more upset at the father ditching his wife and kids, which is understandable, not just the fact that he initiated an relationship with a young student of his.


There you go. As I've already stated, I don't care about legal ramifications. Teenage girls can and will be stupid, and so can 40 year old men. I don't care about that in the slightest. What I care about is the child and wife that he created a negative impact on.

Some people in this thread would slap a thieves hand and tell him no, I'd rather just break said hands and not have to worry about it anymore. It makes things so much simpler that way.

Too many soft spines in this thread.

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Necroshea wrote:There you go. As I've already stated, I don't care about legal ramifications. Teenage girls can and will be stupid, and so can 40 year old men. I don't care about that in the slightest. What I care about is the child and wife that he created a negative impact on.


Sad to say it, but he isn't the first, and he won't be the last. These things happen in life, not often thankfully, but they do. I'm not particularly soft-spined, I just don't think that wishing for the ruination of a man's life is a reasonable response to the situation.

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Necroshea wrote:

Some people in this thread would slap a thieves hand and tell him no, I'd rather just break said hands and not have to worry about it anymore. It makes things so much simpler that way.

Too many soft spines in this thread.


I disagree with this strongly. What if the thief was stealing solely for sustenance? And the punishment of breaking their hands, and the unlikelyhood of them being properly reset, if they even were capable of holding any kind of job down before they certainly aren't now. You've essentially ensured that the offender will never be able to make any kind of income, through legitimate or illegitimate means, making them a lifetime burden of the state.

I have no qualms with rapists and murderers being locked up for life or even facing the death sentence, but the focus on petty theft and other minor crimes should be rehabilitation, not punishment.

sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.

But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
 
   
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Hazardous Harry wrote:

I have no qualms with rapists and murderers being locked up for life or even facing the death sentence, but the focus on petty theft and other minor crimes should be rehabilitation, not punishment.


Agreed. Unless the thief is stealing solely for greed or out of malice. In that case, lock him up.

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CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Hazardous Harry wrote:

I have no qualms with rapists and murderers being locked up for life or even facing the death sentence, but the focus on petty theft and other minor crimes should be rehabilitation, not punishment.


Agreed. Unless the thief is stealing solely for greed or out of malice. In that case, lock him up.


Even then I disagree. I used to steal my brother's video games or books and keep them for myself all the time (as he did, I think this is normal amongst siblings). I hardly think I need to be locked up.

sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.

But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
 
   
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Castiel wrote:
Necroshea wrote:There you go. As I've already stated, I don't care about legal ramifications. Teenage girls can and will be stupid, and so can 40 year old men. I don't care about that in the slightest. What I care about is the child and wife that he created a negative impact on.


Sad to say it, but he isn't the first, and he won't be the last. These things happen in life, not often thankfully, but they do. I'm not particularly soft-spined, I just don't think that wishing for the ruination of a man's life is a reasonable response to the situation.


If he's anything like the teacher that pursued my friend when she was underaged in high school, then married her when she turned 18, I think it's a reasonable wish. They both denied anything going on before she was 18, also, although there was plenty going on.
The guy was a total control freak, and once she had their first kid, he upped the donkey-cave factor. He continually used the children as weapons against her and threatened to kill her family if she left him.
In the end, he got a new girlfriend and told her that the girlfriend was moving in with them. She took that as her cue to leave, and he finally let her, but with more threats, he made her give up the kids.
It was only after some years she got to see the kids again, and they are some jacked up works of art thanks to the situations he makes happen around them.

Yeah, if he's anything like this guy, and the pattern I'm seeing would indicate this, I'd love to see his life wrecked to the degree he smartens up and tries to make right with everyone he's messed up.


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Chowderhead wrote:
Albatross wrote:
Chowderhead wrote:
Casteil wrote:but I wouldn't wish death, injury or lifelong misery on the man for it. I don't agree with the situation, but I'm not going to wish for the destruction of his entire life.

I agree with the death part, but I think me and Frazzled agree that we'd like to break his kneecaps with a hammer.

And I am pretty sure that neither of you are really aware of what that actually entails, and are just a pair of nerds engaging in macho posturing towards an 'accepted' hate figure.

It's called joking around. Neither of us want to hurt anyone.

And the fact that you are taking me or Frazz seriously is worrying.

I never take either of you seriously, so there's no need to worry about that.

I just think it's distasteful to joke about torturing another human being - you wouldn't joke about raping another person and expect it to pass without comment, would you? What's the difference?

Frazzled wrote:You'd be surprised Brit.

What has my nationality got to do with anything?

nomsheep wrote:I highly doubt that you know what ths entails either. if you do then i'm worried for you.

This might sound unlikely, but believe it or not, I've never smashed another person's knees with a hammer. There I said it. Feels good to get it off my chest.

Of course I don't fething know what it entails! I'm not engaing in the nerdy power-fantasy circlejerk though, am I?

Unless you are a troll then you're a nerd but if you aren't a nerd like us then you don't belong here.

Jog on, son. You don't get to tell me where I should and shouldn't be.


Incidentally, Ma55ter_Fett has this thread absolutely nailed.


 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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Don't we have a rule in most of our western jurisdictions that says "innocent until proven guilty"? All of you guys hating on this man are not the tiniest bit better than a good old-fashioned angry mob with torches and pitchforks, and all your legal and ethical argumentation cannot hide that fact.

So if the guy is found to have committed statutory rape, he is going to go to jail for that. No need to hate on him for that, in that case he will go to jail whether you hate him or not. So why do you people hate so much?

You see, people only ever hate the things they fear. Parents who fear that something like this happens to their children I can understand. Anybode else hating on this guy should probably check if he wasn't sexually harassed as a child himself, because that could be a reason for fearing the guy, and it isn't unusual for victims to suppress the memory but keep the fear.

Me? I fear angry mobs of unenlightened, frenzied-into-stupidity persons, because I do not want to be killed or maimed for being a free thinker and for now and then doing things that do not fit into the very narrow minds of bible belt inhabitants (sorry, if you live there and you aren't a christian fundamentalist, I did not mean you). Therefore, I hate people doing exactly what you do here: hating someone and prosecuting him without a fair trial.

"We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write "feth" on their airplanes because it's obscene!" (Colonel Kurtz in Apocalypse Now)

And you know what's funny? "feth" is actually censored on a forum about a dystopia where the nice guys are the ones who kill only millions of innocents, not billions. 
   
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this is why I hate threads like this, they always degrade into internet arguments and people trying to act tough online.


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Skylifter wrote:
So if the guy is found to have committed statutory rape, he is going to go to jail for that. No need to hate on him for that, in that case he will go to jail whether you hate him or not. So why do you people hate so much?


because this gives many a chance to try to act tough online, since there's no logical reason to carry on about this man.

You see, people only ever hate the things they fear. Parents who fear that something like this happens to their children I can understand. Anybode else hating on this guy should probably check if he wasn't sexually harassed as a child himself, because that could be a reason for fearing the guy, and it isn't unusual for victims to suppress the memory but keep the fear.


it's easier to hate than understand, the flaw of society.

Me? I fear angry mobs of unenlightened, frenzied-into-stupidity persons, because I do not want to be killed or maimed for being a free thinker and for now and then doing things that do not fit into the very narrow minds of bible belt inhabitants (sorry, if you live there and you aren't a christian fundamentalist, I did not mean you). Therefore, I hate people doing exactly what you do here: hating someone and prosecuting him without a fair trial.


I gotta agree with that.

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captain fantastic wrote: Seems like this thread is all that's left of Remilia Scarlet (the poster).



wait, what? Σ(・□・;) 
   
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Skylifter wrote:Don't we have a rule in most of our western jurisdictions that says "innocent until proven guilty"? All of you guys hating on this man are not the tiniest bit better than a good old-fashioned angry mob with torches and pitchforks, and all your legal and ethical argumentation cannot hide that fact.

So if the guy is found to have committed statutory rape, he is going to go to jail for that. No need to hate on him for that, in that case he will go to jail whether you hate him or not. So why do you people hate so much?

You see, people only ever hate the things they fear. Parents who fear that something like this happens to their children I can understand. Anybode else hating on this guy should probably check if he wasn't sexually harassed as a child himself, because that could be a reason for fearing the guy, and it isn't unusual for victims to suppress the memory but keep the fear.

Me? I fear angry mobs of unenlightened, frenzied-into-stupidity persons, because I do not want to be killed or maimed for being a free thinker and for now and then doing things that do not fit into the very narrow minds of bible belt inhabitants (sorry, if you live there and you aren't a christian fundamentalist, I did not mean you). Therefore, I hate people doing exactly what you do here: hating someone and prosecuting him without a fair trial.


He banged an underage chick. there's no other reason for him to talk to underage chick. Lets get ing real here. Its not like they could hold a conversation about anything but ing.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Agreed.



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Well maybe they both are into needlepoint Frazz. Just sayin

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...urrrr... I dunno

Frazzled wrote:

He banged an underage chick. there's no other reason for him to talk to underage chick. Lets get ing real here. Its not like they could hold a conversation about anything but ing.


When there's proof of that, then we'll let you disembowel him. Otherwise, the right to fair trial stays.

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Melissia wrote:Stopping power IS a deterrent. The bigger a hole you put in them the more deterred they are.

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Frazzled wrote:He banged an underage chick. there's no other reason for him to talk to underage chick. Lets get ing real here. Its not like they could hold a conversation about anything but ing.


Oh come now, you know they sat around discussing politics and dangers of consuming aspartame.

Its kind of like someone hiring a private investigator to track his wife because he suspect adultery. PI follows her back to a hotel and watches her meet up with another man and rent a room, then after entering he sees them through an open curtain embrace and kiss. After telling the husband this he asks what happens next, and the PI responds that they closed the curtain. Husband responds with "well dang, I guess we'll never know what happened".

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Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:
Frazzled wrote:

He banged an underage chick. there's no other reason for him to talk to underage chick. Lets get ing real here. Its not like they could hold a conversation about anything but ing.


When there's proof of that, then we'll let you disembowel him. Otherwise, the right to fair trial stays.

No.
What trial. We're not stoning him (unfortunately) so your required standards of evidence is moot.

Query though, what exactly are a 40 something year old guy and a 16-17 year old going to text 6,000 times about exactly? Unless he's mentally deficient they are totally off the charts in noncompatibility. She just learned to drive for sake.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Frazzled wrote:He banged an underage chick. there's no other reason for him to talk to underage chick. Lets get ing real here. Its not like they could hold a conversation about anything but ing.


There's proof he did her when she was underaged?

Prestor Jon wrote:
Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
 
   
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MrDwhitey wrote:
Frazzled wrote:He banged an underage chick. there's no other reason for him to talk to underage chick. Lets get ing real here. Its not like they could hold a conversation about anything but ing.


There's proof he did her when she was underaged?


There's proof he didn't?

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Good to know where you're coming from.

I'll get you some rope.

Prestor Jon wrote:
Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
 
   
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That was actually at Frazzled, but it works for your post too.

(Not for the same reason)

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Prestor Jon wrote:
Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
 
   
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MrDwhitey wrote:I'll get you some rope.

We can't just hang him, we've got to give him a fair trial first.

Then we hang him!

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I love it when things like that happen. Your post is meant for someone else, and it totally works on the wrong one. Rare thing just happened here, rare thing
   
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MrDwhitey wrote:Good to know where you're coming from.

I'll get you some rope.



-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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I'm kind of amused that people think him leaving his family has "ruined their lives".

My dad fethed off and my life is just dandy, sure we're not as wealthy as we used to be but we get by.

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biccat wrote:
MrDwhitey wrote:I'll get you some rope.

We can't just hang him, we've got to give him a fair trial first.

Then we hang him!



I say we kill em
I say we hang em then we kill em
I SAY WE STOMP EM! THEN WE TATTOO EM! THEN WE HANG EM!! AND THEN WE KILL EM!
   
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KingCracker wrote:
biccat wrote:
MrDwhitey wrote:I'll get you some rope.

We can't just hang him, we've got to give him a fair trial first.

Then we hang him!



I say we kill em
I say we hang em then we kill em
I SAY WE STOMP EM! THEN WE TATTOO EM! THEN WE HANG EM!! AND THEN WE KILL EM!

When do we make em watch Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman?

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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