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I like the idea of something Chaos or Warp-driven chasing them. Someone said earlier that it's possible for another galaxy to have advanced races with emotions spawning a seperate Chaos pantheon. Perhaps the Shadow in the Warp was something the Tyranids evolved to combat this.

While it seems logical that something mechanical would be chasing them, I don't think that would be it. True enough, mechanical beings have no biomass to harvest, but when Tyranids consume a planet, they leave all inorganic life behind, such as metal which could be used to strenghten a mechanical being's forces. I don't think the Hive Mind would make that mistake.

Then again, I don't think they're really running from anything. They're just hungry.

The Borg. A race of incomprehensible alien creatures controlled by an overmind of sorts, with the sole desire to consume all living beings in the universe. Or The Flood, from Halo.

Or the Zerg.

Although I did like the missing Primarch theory.

They could be fleeing from a galaxy that has already fallen to Chaos completely in an attempt to avoid mutation.

Ratius wrote:I assume when people say running from the two Primarchs, that includes their full Legions behind them at Pre Heresy strenght right?

Otherwise.....

Wrong. 'The First Heretic', as well as a few of the other HH novels, state quite clearly that the 2nd and 11th legions were added to the Ultramarines, and that is why they were the largest of the legions.

If they WERE fleeing (which is contrary to the canon set forth in the rule book and codex's) , it'd probably be from a second Hive Mind. What's possibly worse than an endless fleet of Tyranids controlled by a gestalt Cthulhu-esq intelligence? An even larger endless fleet of Tyranids.

Okay here is my idea's.

1. A Tyranid Civil War, much like Bee's Swarm and attack each other when 2 Queens are around. Maybe there are several Hive Minds, each powerful but in competition for food and space. It would explain how they have come from different directions into Imperial Space. Maybe they are seeking each other to eradicate each other. They have overspilled from their Galaxy in a vicious biological war of survival and that's why you have different hive Fleets.

2. Leman Russ has turned into a great huge Wolf - Sheep dog and has been kick arse in another galaxy and has forced them inadvertently into the Milky way. Kind of in a Sheep -dog " Look what I found master " way.

And that would also explain the different colours.

Deadshot wrote:And that would also explain the different colours.

I usually put the colours down as genetic differentiation of the hive mind, each one representing a more powerful varient of the last.

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:

Deadshot wrote:And that would also explain the different colours.

I usually put the colours down as genetic differentiation of the hive mind, each one representing a more powerful varient of the last.

And i thought someone went rampage with a can of spraypaint (sarcasm lol)

NOOOOO THE SQUAT ARE COMING RUUUUNNNN!!!!!!!
Actually I have no idea. Mabye the chaos gods themselves...

Ive always liked the idea that they are being chased. I think that the way Behemoth juggernauted into the Qalaxy could show that they were in mad panic just trying to get away from what was behind them, until it ran itself dry. In my opinion Behemoth was like a wounded gazelle (although not as dainty) it can run all it wants, until it runs out of blood.

The Tyranid inquisition? Maybe the Tyranid economy collapsed and the only way o revive it is through Biomass.

Going off the current economic climate, that could be viable. Guess we can say good bye to organic deficit and planetary property values, whatever that means.

Tyranids have discovered the concept of Lebensraum.

BlaxicanX wrote:They're running from Vulkan and Leman Russ, obviously, who are giving chase slowly but surely in their fisher-price rubber duck ship. It fits the fluff perfectly.

hahahahah Firmly Agree.

If the Tyranids really are running away form something I would say it would be something like one of these things:
>As genestealers run away from hive fleets perhaps the hive fleets run away from other bigger, nastier and more numerous forms of Tyranid life, and they are just a sign of a larger invasion to come.
>As many people have said before me something robotic or daemonic.
>Some sort of highly advanced civilization with the technology to destroy the Tyranids.
>Life forms similar to Tyranids that beat them and now pursues them.

Maybe its the Outsider they are running from. He was trapped inside a star outside the Milky Way by the Necrontyr, so maybe he has escaped and is coming back to wage gloom doom and madness on the natives and 'nids alike...


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I think Warpfire has a point. It might also be a larger hivefleet who sent the 'nids we know only to scout and soften us up abit...

I came up with some new ideas and would like to apologize for ideas that I missed (There will always be some I missed) so here are the new ideas:
>the Tyranids natural predator
>something that they can't fight or eat
>something that is simply too powerful for the Tyranids to defeat
I will post more ideas as I come up with them, and some of my ideas people will have already stated, if this happens take this apology and please don't rage on it.

Haha this still going?

I'll echo Loki (once more!), maybe there is nothing left out there but Nids and they are slow to get to the Milky Way due to distance and being bored with our petty squabblings.

Ok, bring on the flames

The Tyranids are running from Theodore Roosevelt, who left earth to hunt anything he hasn't killed yet.

Saxton Hale.

The Hive Mind's wife is on the rag.

Maybe they are at war with even bigger hive fleets?

Maybe, being bugs, they are being hunted by Spiders or Birds?

Surtur wrote:

Melissia wrote:They aren't blanks.

They aren't blanks in name, but they wind up being similar in function.

Not even remotely close.

Even the weakest blank is capable of entirely shutting down the Hive Mind's connection with creatures in the Blank's vicinity.

Tyranids are not even close to being Blanks. Psychic power is almost as strongly integrated in to the Tyranid race as it is with the Eldar race, ti's just used differently.

And not drawn from the Warp.

Deadshot wrote:And not drawn from the Warp.

Yes it is..

The Hive Mind is a warp entity.

The synapse creatures themselves do not dra it from the Warp. They draw from the Hive Mind. The Hive Mind may draw it from the Warp or it may just be powerful enough to do so anyway.

I really do not buy the whole thing with the Hive Mind being a Warp Entity. Other warp entities, like Chaos Daemons, are made from the Warp itself. And the Hive Mind's Shadow in the Warp disrupt's Warpspace/energy. So wouldn't that disrupt the Hive Mind itself.

Melissia wrote:

Deadshot wrote:And not drawn from the Warp.

Yes it is..

The Hive Mind is a warp entity.

Erm no it isnt... The hive mind creates a shadow in the warp, if it was a warp entity, it'd be disrupting itself. so therefore would be pointless...

Also, the 5th ed codex describes the hive mind as a "Gestalt Conciousness" which contains the collective mind of the Tyranid race. It isn't separate from the race, cannot be defined to a single being either.

I think they are simply running away from starvation.

AethyrKnight wrote:

Ratius wrote:I assume when people say running from the two Primarchs, that includes their full Legions behind them at Pre Heresy strenght right?

Otherwise.....

Wrong. 'The First Heretic', as well as a few of the other HH novels, state quite clearly that the 2nd and 11th legions were added to the Ultramarines, and that is why they were the largest of the legions.

If they WERE fleeing (which is contrary to the canon set forth in the rule book and codex's) , it'd probably be from a second Hive Mind. What's possibly worse than an endless fleet of Tyranids controlled by a gestalt Cthulhu-esq intelligence? An even larger endless fleet of Tyranids.

This is not true. I dont have the book on me but I specificly remember Lorgar telling them to stop spouting that nonsense as it was just a rumor.