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2012/11/29 18:37:01
Subject: Re:Games & Gears Kickstarter: Gaming battle boards that fit you and your needs!
Lockark wrote: Thanks for the reply! Sounds like a great idea!
Something I just realized, you could paint the sea board black and make a good looking space board with some ionized gases floating about!
Lockark!!! We are on the same wave length Goes great for space battles.... Going to upload some pictures of the battle boards most have seen but some have not. On the first post and this one.
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Salacious Greed wrote: I really like the brick board that you just showed. Very nice, can be painted as very clean, or metallic like you said. Lots of promise with that one.
Now, with your 12x12 boards, surely you've thought about road systems right? These can be as simple as the Lego base boards, just allow people to plug and play to make roads across their map. You could really liven them up though if you wanted the city board concept, as then you put sidewalks on each side, instead of the blasted terrain or brickscape. This would also really allow you to make some awesome cratered roads, or let people do that themselves for those that want that.
Anyway, while I'm not drawn to your sci-fi board, I think you need a more generic "cityscape" feeling board, where that feels more Mario Kart or apocalyptic gladiator arena(with requisite Vegas lights and chainsaw noises). And if you're going to go for the future warehouse/starship/etc feel, why not just some diamond plate or ship decking?
Great concept, great looking boards you've got. I now know how the European guys feel with crosspond kickstarter shipping. Only its a double kick to the since GBP are more expensive, so I'm not saving anything by your currency being depressed. Severely. Luckily, I send as much of my currency to support groups at miniature gaming stores as I can!
I wish you guys luck and look forward to seeing what else you guys crank out.
Yes, yes and more yes!! =D. We need to get our initial core products out. You are stating our Tier 3 products after Hybrids. To make this happen we need the communities backing at large on kickstarter. As these Games & Gears Gaming boards are a long term investment. We already have 18 months worth of products we want to release. But we need to Kickstarter to be a big success first.
It is good know with the Dakka Dakka community we are on the right track on design. =D.
Best!!
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CptJake wrote: I would like to see a general rough surface that could be painted as dirt or asphalt/concrete.
Dear Cptjake, We do. Field of War :
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scarletsquig wrote: Awesome, awesome product. Can't pledge on any KS this close to Xmas, but will be buying these on release.
Thanks for making an alternative to the GW RoB board that doesn't suck.
The surface options are great too, I can finally get that mordheim board I always wanted!
Dear Scarletsquig,
Thank you kindly for your warm wishes!!
Release date for after Kickstarter project is successful would be June 2012 for everyone else. We need to insure our Kickstarter backers are all sorted and kitted up with our gaming boards. As we are trying to get their gaming boards a little early in March 2013 if we can.
CptJake wrote: I would like to see a general rough surface that could be painted as dirt or asphalt/concrete.
I think this would look better with staggered squares, instead of rectangles. Squares would look like marble sheets, concrete/sidewalk slabs, steel floor plating...
Like this:
What do you think?
Dear Judgedoug,
Noted with thanks!!! One of our Mission statements is "For the community & by the community" (on our FB page). Everyone's input and yours with your warm wishes & pledge makes this effort worth it. It is a real labor of love. Thank you for your Pledge Judgedoug! As gamers, we are very excited and the real fulfillment for us is seeing you playing on our gaming boards. Then we know we have done a good job. 27 days to go on 28% of the initial goal. We are on track. But a pledge bomb smashing the trajectory would be awesome. Thanks!!
Best!!
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While I am probably influenced by Infinity, hexagon looks great for futuristic designs.
While I understand that designing an urban board is difficult especially with a single tile pattern, in my opinion that could be a real attraction, but I understand it is an expensive thing to do.
2012/11/30 00:31:45
Subject: Games & Gears Kickstarter: Gaming battle boards that fit you and your needs!
DaveC wrote: I'd concur with judgedoug staggered squares with probably look better /work better in this case.
Games&Gears what price are you intending to sell these at when they go in sale at normal retail?
Approx 10-20GBP more dearer. pending on volume. As we will then produce per order per day instead of all in one go. So you Kickstarter enables more value for money since we print these in mass.
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PsychoticStorm wrote: While I am probably influenced by Infinity, hexagon looks great for futuristic designs.
While I understand that designing an urban board is difficult especially with a single tile pattern, in my opinion that could be a real attraction, but I understand it is an expensive thing to do.
We have the ability to do many things here @ Games & Gears. The first goal/challenge is completing our kickstarter. The whole Hybrid system and also the next stage is to insure you your gaming boards keep evolving and that your play your games on these beautifully detailed boards & at the same time paying a good price for them too. Once we have hopefully established ourselves in the market we can build on our range and offer more.
Best!!
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How about this for a Hex Tile would work for Sci-Fi settings and Painted the right way a Dreadball pitch - you could make massive Ultimate pitches with it. Hexs aren't sized for Dreadball I just got the hex image off google.
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2012/11/30 01:33:38
Subject: Games & Gears Kickstarter: Gaming battle boards that fit you and your needs!
Nice work and yes we can do that!! First off, thank you Dave for your pledge and your great comments. Please keep them coming in!! We appreciate your great enthusiasm in Games & Gears =). Means allot.
However we would want to initially concentrate on the initial Battle Boards including our Sci-Fi War Board, which we are confident in.
A big reason for this which may also hinder us, but I hope not. Is that we do not want to over promise in terms of delivery time. We know Kickstarter projects sometimes bundle a whole load of products to get ones pledge in mass, although this does work as a manufacturer we know that this method does lead to delays and some long term delays. Since we want this business for the long term we need to keep honest and meet our promises to our backers and even do more as in delivering earlier than promised =).
That said we can do that =) and probably might do in the future. But we need to get our core initial line out first and this kickstarter backed as a success. 1000 backers is our magic number.
We hope to run competitions in the future for the community in what design they want to see in the near future. However all that will be possible with the success of the current kickstarter and we are on track. A pledge bomb would be awesome. We are humbled so far with the support, warm wishes & pledges.
One thing we will add soon which is in high demand from the RPG community is 1inch grids. Which will be offered as 12" By 12" pvc transparent sheets with the grids on which one side has strong self adhesives (like the IPAD screen protector but with grids). This will be put in the optional load out. They will lay smoothly on all our boards without any bumps. We recommend you paint your battle board prior applying the Grids.
Best!! =)
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I like that hex map. Make them small enough and they can work for Battletech. I think it is 1" hexes, but I would have to check to be sure. Or have the resident Battletech Guru chime in here.
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2012/11/30 04:26:14
Subject: Games & Gears Kickstarter: Gaming battle boards that fit you and your needs!
DaveC wrote: No problem I get that it's best to concentrate on 4 or 5 boards for now hopefully you'll keep it in mind for further down road.
Absolutely!! Thanks Dave =)
Best!!
I'm pretty enthused, I hope it's successful as I can imagine all of my gaming boards will be this company in the future. Especially if it becomes very popular and boards with hills, trenches, craters, rivers, roads, etc, get made.
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2012/11/30 08:56:03
Subject: Games & Gears Kickstarter: Gaming battle boards that fit you and your needs!
megatrons2nd wrote: I like that hex map. Make them small enough and they can work for Battletech. I think it is 1" hexes, but I would have to check to be sure. Or have the resident Battletech Guru chime in here.
Hmm indeed a 1 inch hexagon board is widely versatile, space combat, battletech and other games use this configuration.
2012/11/30 10:07:29
Subject: Games & Gears Kickstarter: Gaming battle boards that fit you and your needs!
megatrons2nd wrote: I like that hex map. Make them small enough and they can work for Battletech. I think it is 1" hexes, but I would have to check to be sure. Or have the resident Battletech Guru chime in here.
Hmm indeed a 1 inch hexagon board is widely versatile, space combat, battletech and other games use this configuration.
In all honesty D&D 4E and many other RPG's that use mini's seem to play better on a hex grid then a square grid, since it's easier to mark out blasts and AoE's correctly then the normal squar grids. Food for thought.
Edit: I've been so hyped for these things I just realized ANOTHER use for them. Since they are 12" squars, that makes them the perfect size for making display boards, since you can make your board as big or small as you need for the army/force/game your playing. Even more so if your able to follow threw on the idea of matching base toppers for your army.
Also I can Imagen modleing hills/buildings/ruins directly onto the 12"x12" panels to make a seamless look well still keeping a level of modularity. (Compared to the 24"x24" panels on GW's board.)
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2012/11/30 11:37:09
Subject: Games & Gears Kickstarter: Gaming battle boards that fit you and your needs!
Dear all will touch base on all your great comments today.
Prototype of hex Grid sheet will be up today!! .
Thanks for all your comments. For the community and by the community absolutely !!
Best !!!
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Don't forget Battletech players too. We love our hexes!
I was on the fence about pledging to this Kickstarter, but the sci-fi boards and the potential for hex boards has me salivating. I will have a pledge in momentarily.
2012/12/01 00:11:54
Subject: Re:Games & Gears Kickstarter: Gaming battle boards that fit you and your needs!
I really look foreword to seeing the grid overlays! Makes me wonder if just clear overlays to protect the boards would also be something people would be interested in?
My self I'm only interested in the grid overlays, since I would just spray a hard coat over the finished wargameing board. But might be worth pointing out all the same to people interested in something more rugged. =)
I know if you can sort out doing overlays, I will probly increase my pledge to get my hands on a few extra tiles+squar grid over lays. Going to need a board for Endless Fantsey when it's done after all. >.>
Would probably grab a hex one too just to have on hand, if I can swing the cash.
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2012/12/01 00:39:35
Subject: Games & Gears Kickstarter: Gaming battle boards that fit you and your needs!
Games & Gears Hex Grid Gamer screen Strong self adhesive.
close up Hex grid mock up sheet. Demonstration of how flat it lays on our Battle Boards. We will do a video tomorrow for you to see. Models in this picture are Warmachine & Hordes by Privateer Press, for display purposes only. The Hex Grid sheet will be 1inch hex grids with strong self adhesive to stick on smoothly and strong stick to the Battle Boards.
This will be added to our optional load out tomorrow. We will do a video to show how smooth the lay out on all the Battle Boards. there is no bumps and has a smooth adhesive finish on the Games & Gears Battle boards!! Spread the word!
Best!!
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Update: Video coming soon on Hex grid sheets. To show how smooth and flat there are on our Battle Boards.
Each Hex Grid sheet is 12" by 12" inches
Material: Same as IPAD screen protector self adhesive screen. High Quality
Price:
x1 Games & Gears Hex Grid Gaming Sheet 1.00GBP
x9 Games & Gears Hex Grid Gaming Sheet: 9.00GBP
x16 Games & Gears Hex Grid Gaming Sheet: 16.00GBP
x24 Games & Gears Hex Grid Gaming Sheet: 24.00GBP
x32 Games & Gears Hex Grid Gaming Sheet: 32.00GBP
We cannot comment on why other same quality without printing on them are allot more dearer per sheet than our prices please ask the relevant seller or maker of the goods.
Best!!!
Automatically Appended Next Post: In the video we will show you how smoothly Dark vengance models go on the hexes.
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Automatically Appended Next Post: Update: after various request on cost of the Hex Grids which are high quality. For this Kickstarter we will bear more than half the cost. But this is for Kickstarter only. We hope this move increases our pledges. Price above amended
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Prices for Square Grid & Hex Grid sheets up on our kickstater page. I hope everyone picks these up as these prices will only be for kickstarter and will have to jump considerably when we sell these in June 2013. So get them now as we are bearing the cost. for these high quality self Adhesive sheet.
Warhammer Quest.... awesome game and we should open that box up again and play here at the Games & Gears Studio.
Best!!
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/12/01 22:52:33
This is a mock up of our 12" by 12" sheet 1 inches square Hex grid self adhesive sheet. The mock up itself is not self adhesive and shows you just how smooth it lays on our battle board!! The actual product will be the same as quality as an Ipad screen protector with strong self adhesive.
The actual Grids sheets is using the identical tech as Ipad screen protectors. With the exception that Games & Gears Grids have grids on them (Hex or Square. Both 1inch).
I really think you guys could use some more, and better-painted pictures of your product.
Take the basic sand board for instance, all you've got is some 2-second blasts of spraypaint on it. Considering this is going to be your most popular in sales terms board, this isn't good enough and doesn't show off any of the details on it.
You really want to have a basic sand board fully painted, drybrushed, finished with static grass and maybe even shown off with really nicely painted minis on it to have good visual appeal. right now a lot of the paint jobs you've given the boards come across as a little half-assed* aren't showing them off to their full potential.
Visuals really, really, really matters on KS and right now I feel like you're a little sub-par with the "vanity shots" of the product itself compared to other gaming kickstarters that I've seen.
*Currently, you just have basic washes, and some basic painting on most of your tiles. What you really want is some careful drybrushing, and then subtle variations in wash tones for different rocks/tiles to add variation and break up the overall surface, before using a second drybrush highlight to bring things back together to the overall base colour).
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