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You're exactly right, Ehsteve, but they've said as much from the start- these pieces are going to be more expensive to tool, and thus you won't get as many as in the first campaign.

I think the value will only get better, of course, but if you're comparing it to the first campaign it is never going to be equivalent. The Iron Rings one you mention is cast by hand or the like, I believe... so pieces would cost the same. But at this volume, getting tooling done in China, it's not going to be equivalent for the more complex cavern pieces.

But yeah... shipping on something heavy like this is a killer! Heck, I even just received some MDF sheets of laser cut terrain from CNC Workshop in Australia, and even shipping on something that light was rough.

Awesome update: free piece, and underground lake pieces coming!

Dwarven Forge wrote:Update #8 Mar 25 2014
Free Stalagmite Coming at $1,050,000!
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Dear All Backers,

I hope you all are having a good week. With Stefan working 110% to prepare the upcoming add-on offers, he wants to throw a little curve at everyone:

An additional free stretch goal at $1,050,000!



In addition to our $1.1 million dollar stretch goal (two free 45-degree pieces ), we are adding a free Narrow Stalagmite (one for every set backed, applicable to all 2+ set pledges) as soon as we hit $1.05 million.

And get ready for some great add-ons, coming soon!

A "watery" sneak preview is now showing on Kickstarter -- click here

Thanks so much for your continued support.

- Jeff Martin

And the pic of the underground lake pieces:

Underground lake add-on pack.

Dammit!

Just when I thought I was out...

Missed this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfmUeOCtZis

I think the still image above shows a later version of the water pieces... but there was a floor piece shown right near the end that I don't think we've seen. Here are two screen captures of it:

So we can fill our own clear resin in on those lake pieces, right? Those look great. I've been waiting for them to restock the water pieces forever, but apparently theres some kind of issue and I guess they canned them.

After considering how much room I need to clear out for the tile sets and moving next year for school.. I think I am going to pull out of the ks.. Coming to ones sense kinda sucks lol..

Yeah, realizing other things need to take priority is never easy, but good of you to make that call now, rather than realize it after the money is already gone.

Stefan just teased the Dungeon Passages:





Looks like both a new 45 degree piece and a 10' to 5' converter piece way in the back there.

Edit: Found another pic:



Also:

Stefan wrote:those who want only the double sided bevel pieces passage: you will be able to pledge for only those pieces in it's own 10 pack....also a straight passage 10 pack and a corner , T pack.....

~iPaint

They are also offering a fourth pack of dungeon pieces- narrow passages with a bevel on one side and a flat on the other.

I hope that's the last of the dungeon-related items... I'd like to get back to the caverns. Where's that underground lake gotten to?

Stefans mom passed away this morning. You may wish to offer your condolences.

If there's anyone in New York who wants to go in on multiple sets together (in order to get cheaper individual sets), PM me.

 snurl wrote:
Stefans mom passed away this morning. You may wish to offer your condolences.

That sucks.. I wish him and his family all the best and hope they get through this troubled time quickly..

so...more add-on pack stretch goals...

[sarcasm]whoop-de-doo[/sarcasm]

The free pieces so far have been pitiful, and we have a week left before I'm just dropping support.

It's not even that this has to reach the dungeon level of pieces, it just has to reach a reasonable level for the cost-per-set.

Eh, they tossed us the stalagmites at 1.050m as a little bonus to keep things along, we know we have 45 degree pieces at 1.1m, and I'd be surprised if 1.2m wasn't another 'free'/bonus piece as well.

The add ons work for some people who have the funding to blow a couple hundred extra on a type they want to round out. They're not for me, but I don't fault them for loading a few up.

Can't fault someone for wanting to withdraw before the end, that's a choice we all have to make, but I still think it's sort of pointless to worry much about this until the last 12 hours or so, when things are in full swing and we're hopefully unlocking a new goal every hour or two (or even less).

The middle point is a holding pattern. Even 'good' and successful campaigns would often kill to be doing a steady 10k a day or so in the middle.

If a week goes by, the final surge starts and by 1.5m we've only gotten another handful of add ons I could see a little frustration growing to more widespread concern, but honestly, I think right now is just something campaigns have to put up with.

Some pics from an article over at Examiner.com:



And from Facebook:



~iPaint

Man, so much cool stuff, I wonder why they don't update with it?

 RiTides wrote:
Man, so much cool stuff, I wonder why they don't update with it?

Stefan mentioned earlier that:

1) the images were "leaked" a bit ahead of time because
2) they are preparing to show off the lakes/rivers tiles later tonight

There was a FB video earlier where they were painting the elevation and river/lake pieces.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152360674029458&set=vb.783984457&type=2&theater

~iPaint

Water tiles are up. $50 add on. 30 pieces.

Photo gallery for the water tiles: here.

For consistency, it's worth noting it's only $35 for dungeon grey.

Crap. $50 tempts me. With S&H, however, it's getting up there...

That said, it'd pretty much be dedicated to expanding the base area I can field (in terms of raw floor space).

The end is going to involve some tough choices.

The additional add-on previews are in the DF gallery:

Elevation pack

Mushrooms/fungi and such: Additional pieces pack (cavern dressings?)

I managed to escape the add ons in the first campaign.

This time though... that river pack, the elevation pack, and the cavern dressings are all calling to me.

Gonna have to win the lottery in the next two weeks.

That, or start clearing out some old stuff. Might finally be time to begin sorting through that Magic bin...

I wonder how many water sets they used to create that layout?
Very tempting.

Wow, that water set is attractively priced (to me). I can't add any during the campaign, but might get up to 3 of those during the pledge manager. I'm doing an icy cavern and so will just model them iced over, so can use for large rooms if needed... but they look sweet!

Edit: Looks like that's the only way people will be allowed to go anyway- pledge manager is for add on packs only, no base sets:

. . . IMPORTANT ! ! ! ! . . @Simon - It has been decided today that we will NOT allow backers to add extra funding for base Cavern sets during the Pledge Manager phase of the project. You will be able to add funding for extra Add-On Packs, however. We are doing this because of the tight deadlines with the factory. We need to make a firm order with them ASAP after the project ends in order to get the base Cavern sets shipped on time. The Add-On Packs will take less time to produce, so we can delay that part of the order for a few weeks. -- Jeff . . . .

Mar 29 2014 on Dwarven Forge's Caverns - Dwarvenite Game Tiles Mini Terrain.

That's a reasonable stance to take. Get the big, time consuming (at least comparatively) orders lined up, let people pick and choose add ons for a few weeks afterwards.

I mean, the piece count difference isn't huge between some of them currently, but the time it'll take to punch hundreds of thousands (millions?) of copies of some pieces will add up right off the start.

And considering how quickly (and on time, can't mention that enough) they delivered the last campaign, if that's what they need to do to meet their objective again, I'm not one to argue with the experts.

Agreed on that being a reasonable stance, especially considering they are restricting it to hit shipping deadlines

Free piece coming at 1.2M! This is starting to pick up as the final week starts, which is great (27K yesterday, and almost to that number already today!).

Also, you can make this with 5 cavern sets and 3 water sets, which a backer just linked to. Looks pretty sweet to me

http://www.dwarvenforge.com/mapmaker/shared?mapId=611b73a8efd7f5e307a3a120a11a792f0d40396b

Kicktraq has us over $37k today, the best day they've had since the first 4 days of the campaign, and it's not over yet.

Seems people love their river pieces.

Breaking 1.2m today to get that next piece unlocked would be nice, but even with a lackluster day we should see it tomorrow, so either way it should be here shortly.

Sounds like a floor pack will be a thing.

Stefan wrote:right now I am sculpting a brand new 4" x 4" piece for a cavern floor pack

~iPaint

Oh man, that is sweet! But will force me to choose . Likely 3 water and 1 floor pack, or possibly 2 of each. Will depend on cost, as the water pack is fantastically priced for an add-on.