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I am definitely up for both historical and fantasy homages, lets have Henry VIII in his very special suit of armour:


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weeble1000 wrote:
But all the same, just because something is funny doesn't make it a parody.
Technically just because something is funny or isn't funny doesn't define said item as a parody. A parody at the heart of it is not necessarily defined as 'funny' or completely have to be a spoof, parody at the base is imitation, which does not imply being a duplicate or copy.

 Piston Honda wrote:
Does anyone else wish they didn't go the fantasy route and with historical figures from middles ages, renaissance, etc. ?

I wanna see pope Innocent III, William Wallace, Joan or Arc, vlad Dracula, Simon de Montfort
I don't see why they can't do both while still maintaining its whimsical nature. Granted I don't see it being historically accurate in terms of detail but merely in name. There are many versions of vlad Dracula that aren't historical and still fantasy.
   
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 General Seric wrote:
I am definitely up for both historical and fantasy homages, lets have Henry VIII in his very special suit of armour:


Agree lots of cool historical figures - and even TV/Film Hstorical figures be cool to have:

William Marshall "The Greatest Knight"
Edward I
The Black Prince
Hentry VIII
Elizabeth I
Saladin
loads of them out there

Pretty much any of the main cast from Vikings
or the Tudors
The Originals from the show of the same name/Vampire Diaries
Blackadder and firends

Dracula and others from the recent film would be great


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 Dark Severance wrote:
weeble1000 wrote:
But all the same, just because something is funny doesn't make it a parody.
Technically just because something is funny or isn't funny doesn't define said item as a parody. A parody at the heart of it is not necessarily defined as 'funny' or completely have to be a spoof, parody at the base is imitation, which does not imply being a duplicate or copy.

 Piston Honda wrote:
Does anyone else wish they didn't go the fantasy route and with historical figures from middles ages, renaissance, etc. ?

I wanna see pope Innocent III, William Wallace, Joan or Arc, vlad Dracula, Simon de Montfort
I don't see why they can't do both while still maintaining its whimsical nature. Granted I don't see it being historically accurate in terms of detail but merely in name. There are many versions of vlad Dracula that aren't historical and still fantasy.


In our discussion of the law, parody is defined as commenting on the source. That is, commenting on or poking fun at the thing that you have copied, or the source of the good or service in the case of a trademark. Using the copy or the mark to comment on or poke fun at something else is satire.

In other words, just because something is funny (or intended to be funny) doesn't make it a parody. Parody, as you point out, is about intent. And the intent, as I described, relates specifically to the object of commentary.

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Well this turn into legal discussion wan't anticipating.

Just was giving a warning regarding HBO IP, as of late HBO has been on the warpath regarding the GoT IP.

GRRM has an entire collection of the dark sword miniatures line and even has dioramas of scenes from his books. Dark Sword has permission to make the SoIaF line and they seem to be good acquaintances/ friends with GRRM. It was just a warning in the event HBO wanted to step and and say NOPE.

By the way doesn't Dakka have a lawyer?

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 Alpharius wrote:
Again, it isn't worth 'worrying' about, it just might mean that we shouldn't expect many of them going forward - other than ones based on historical figures of course!


Because of the setting, or because of legal threats? Because they've done three Kickstarters with tons of these homage characters and so far the only issue they've come up against is Jules/The Bride.


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Sure? Maybe? Yes?

With a side of 'are you arguing with me just to...argue with me?'

When does this one launch so H.B.M.C. and I can discuss stuff that's actually fun?

   
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I'm just surprised at all the apparent doom and gloom over how Guillotine are never going to be able to do homage characters again to be a little silly, given that aside from one example they've never had a problem.

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I wasn't doom or glooming it nor meaning to turn this to into a legal discussion, so I will refrain. I was just agreeing and disagreeing with a few things.
   
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It's rather appropriate in a thread about the zombie apocalypse. And this being the Internet a 'successful' thread is not possible without gross ignorance, personal attacks, and wild speculation argued as fact exclusively by experts.
   
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New Bedford, MA USA

I see zombies in a fantasy setting and I don't get Zombie Apocalypse from it. The Zombie Apocalypse is usually a staple of modern horror. This just comes off as a D&D style hack and slash to me, or Army of Darkness Horror/Comedy romp.



   
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Minnesota

Zombicide has always had a humorous flair to it, so I think that's an adequate description. Also, a "not Luke Evans Dracula" would be fantastic. Either that, or Bard, whichever way, I must have a Luke Evans in Black Plague!

I may be alone on this, but I would love to see "zombie bosses" based on some of history's more despicable cast. I'm thinking a zombie Elizabeth Bathory, Vlad, or Gille de Rais could be pretty freaking sweet. That's probably far too dark, though, so I doubt we'd see anything like it. Otherwise, I'd prefer we mostly get fantasy characters instead of historical ones.

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The Fragile Breath wrote: . . . something but I was distracted by the username.
Holy gak that is an awesome username. Please tell me your army is called Kabal of the Fragile Breath. Morathi's Darkest Sin has some competition here for best handle, I think.
 
   
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Historical characters would only have appeal to history buffs. They would never be as recognizable as pop culture references.

Not saying their can't be some crossover between the two. Abraham Lincoln is featured in multiple movies where he has been known to slay both Vampires and Zombies, and his likeness is Public Domain.


   
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 Piston Honda wrote:
Well this turn into legal discussion wan't anticipating.

Just was giving a warning regarding HBO IP, as of late HBO has been on the warpath regarding the GoT IP.

GRRM has an entire collection of the dark sword miniatures line and even has dioramas of scenes from his books. Dark Sword has permission to make the SoIaF line and they seem to be good acquaintances/ friends with GRRM. It was just a warning in the event HBO wanted to step and and say NOPE.

By the way doesn't Dakka have a lawyer?


The Dark Sword-line makes it a point to look different than the TV-show actors though. And it's probably the likenesses of the TV actors that Zombicide would want.

In other words, they probably don't care for "Jon Snow" sculpted to some pre-TV-show artwork or possibly even an official "Jon Snow" that is very different from the TV-show interpretation. What they would want is a not-Kit Harington in TV-show-gear. GRRM can't help you with that.
   
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New Bedford, MA USA

Zombicide would give us the blonde, blue eyed, Captain of the Daywatch who knows everything, and just so a happens to look a bit like Kit Harington.

   
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I suppose that we'd possibly get to see maybe a teenager wielding a tiny magic wand and possibly wearing a cloak of invisibility

   
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As for legalities, we already saw what happened with Miramax. CMON received a C&D or some other legal letter and changed the sculpts. Probably cheaper than paying the lawyers.

Did anyone here back CMON's Arcadia Quest? AQ had medieval/fantasy references/parodies. Woo... Grey Adder Exclusive Figure...


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New Bedford, MA USA

It's like a Kickstarter Game of Chicken between Zombicide Black Plague and Bones 3. Both at the same time will be a bad thing

   
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BONES 3 will be a 'pick and choose' a few things - especially large terrain pieces.

Zombicide BP will be, I fear, an 'all in' experience!

   
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Minnesota

 Alpharius wrote:
BONES 3 will be a 'pick and choose' a few things - especially large terrain pieces.

Zombicide BP will be, I fear, an 'all in' experience!


It sounds as though Black Plague will be more or less the same as Rue Morgue. $100 gets you Black Plague, $150 gets you that and a smaller expansion akin to Angry Neighbors or Toxic City.

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Manchu wrote:
The Fragile Breath wrote: . . . something but I was distracted by the username.
Holy gak that is an awesome username. Please tell me your army is called Kabal of the Fragile Breath. Morathi's Darkest Sin has some competition here for best handle, I think.
 
   
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Yeah, I'd fully expect BP to follow the Season 2 & Season 3 format, given that it worked really well for CMoN. I do like how Season 3 capped things off with all of the dashboards, dice tower, etc. to enhance the play experience. That was really nice.

   
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Same, I can't wait to get the rest of my pledge. Are we betting the small expansion adds werewolves or vampires? Because I'd love that.

Oh my God. I just had the best-worst idea ever. Zombie dinosaurs. I know, it'd never work, nor will it ever happen. It's just perfectly ridiculous and humorous, which goes well with Zombicide.

I'm kind of bummed that they pushed it to June, but it sounds like Ninja All Stars pledge manager is going up next week, and I need to pay for my Adventure Case, so I guess it might be a good thing. But I want to hear more about the new survivors!

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Manchu wrote:
The Fragile Breath wrote: . . . something but I was distracted by the username.
Holy gak that is an awesome username. Please tell me your army is called Kabal of the Fragile Breath. Morathi's Darkest Sin has some competition here for best handle, I think.
 
   
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I'd bet on Skeletons in the expansion.

Though I would play the heck out of an Underworld Vampires vs Lycans game!

Tho it would need a Selene homage. Rawr.


As for pushing BP to June, that's barely over a week away. For me, the real question is when the Others: 7 Sins is ready for launch.

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New Bedford, MA USA

I just expect more zombies in an expansion. The base game appears to have walkers, runners, fatties, Abominations, and Necromancers.

BERSERKERS - work well as is in a fantasy setting
TOXIC - could be reworked as flaming or plague zombies
SKINNERS/CRAWLERs
ZOMBIE HOUNDS

They could also work in human and dog companions, like squires and warhounds/hunting dogs.

Heck, go a step above dogs and shoot for HORSE COMPANIONS

   
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California the Southern

Vamps and wolves somehow getting tied in would be cool. Skeletons could work I'd think.

I'm going to keep hoping to flip the dashboard over for a super heroic leveled- up version of the heroes.

Zombie dinos would be great. Something I've wanted for a long time, but I don't think this is the right place for them.

Zombie dragons however? Sure, why not?

I ended up getting rid of my Z3 stuff (family aren't fans of undead/ modern games), but the toughest pieces to part with were those dashboard and dice tower. What a nice idea to include. I'd like to see CMON start making or including those towers with more of their dice heavy games.

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

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Really hope my wife and friends will agree to play this, or this'll end up being a really expensive shelf warmer... but I need it!
   
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New Bedford, MA USA

Just remember that, if your wife and friends don't agree to play Zombicide, you can always find a new wife and friends that will.

   
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ced1106 wrote:
As for legalities, we already saw what happened with Miramax. CMON received a C&D or some other legal letter and changed the sculpts. Probably cheaper than paying the lawyers.


It happened once. In the very first Kickstarter. It didn't slow 'em down one bit.

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Wake me for zombicide: wild, Wild West you know the one with John "The Baron" Waine and Flint Eastwards.

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 Theophony wrote:
Wake me for zombicide: wild, Wild West you know the one with John "The Baron" Waine and Flint Eastwards.


That would be pretty darn awesome. Wild West is a tricky genre though. Just take a look at Wild West films at the box office.

Unforgiven, one of the best westerns ever made, only has a lifetime gross of $101 million. Tombstone has been beaten out by both Brokeback Mountain and Back to the Future III.

Of course, The Hateful Eight will be hitting theaters pretty soon, which should absolutely be a boon to all Wild West table top games.

Kirasu: Have we fallen so far that we are excited that GW is giving us the opportunity to spend 58$ for JUST the rules? Surprised it's not "Dataslate: Assault Phase"

AlexHolker: "The power loader is a forklift. The public doesn't complain about a forklift not having frontal armour protecting the crew compartment because the only enemy it is designed to face is the OHSA violation."

AlexHolker: "Allow me to put it this way: Paramount is Skynet, reboots are termination attempts, and your childhood is John Connor."
 
   
 
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