Switch Theme:

Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in gb
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Earth

Mechanicum in 40k would be sick, while marines and auxilia are pretty good ish in 40k, mechanicum are a whole other story, I could see people getting annoyed if they use orks, tau etc against them, even eldar would have issues. I'm not calling them op, but they'd be up there with crons and eldar I think in terms of what can be abused and spammed :/
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka






 BrookM wrote:
Now mind, you can play 30k lists against 40k lists, though they really come into their own against the more powerful (or unbalanced) 40k lists when you play at 2500+ pts, when you can field larger squads (a lot of the 30k units have a large initial price tag, but adding more models to the unit is usually hella cheap) or squadrons of vehicles backed by a Lord of War or two and if you play Astartes, a Primarch.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, to the people who are buying the Red Mechanicum book, could any of you, upon receiving it, confirm whether or not is also includes the rules for the Questoris Knights army list?

While it does include all patterns of suits of armour, along with that creep Arch Magos Draykavac, no mention is made whether or not the actual list is included as well.


Yeah for sure. And nothing stops you from taking 30k units and just putting them into 40k as-is as long as your buddies are ok with it.

The price of the book is in-line with other GW books, too, but you can't get store discounts :X Maybe we'll get lucky and somehow a version of these will filter through trade distribution channels.
   
Made in us
Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces






Southeastern PA, USA

I think -- because it makes nothing but business sense -- that we'll see 40k rules for the 30k Mechanicum miniatures in a future IA book.

My AT Gallery
My World Eaters Showcase
View my Genestealer Cult! Article - Gallery - Blog
Best Appearance - GW Baltimore GT 2008, Colonial GT 2012

DQ:70+S++++G+M++++B++I+Pw40k90#+D++A+++/fWD66R++T(Ot)DM+++

 
   
Made in nz
Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances






The rumor is an IA book for Tau vs Mechanicus later this year... Hopefully there is more than this..

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/08/28 21:02:58


 
   
Made in gb
Mysterious Techpriest







In the preview pictures i can make out the entries on the back - thought i would list them here.

HQ: magos prime, magos dominus, archmagos draycavac, archmagos inmar satarael, magos reductor calleb decima (!!!!)
Elites: tech-priest auxillia, domitar class battle automata, myrmidon secutors
Troops: adsecularis covenant, thallax cohort, scyllax guardian automata covenant, castellax class battle automata maniple
Fast attack: Ursarax cohort, tarantula sentry gun battery, vorax class battle automata maniple, crusade fleet avenger strike fighter, crusade fleet primaris lightning strike fighter, crusade fleet arvus lighter orbital shuttle (!!!)
Dedicated transport: triaros armoured conveyor
Heavy support: thanatar class siege automata, thanatar-calix class siege automata, thanatar-cynis class siege automata, ? ? (mechanical engineer? makrotek engineseer? mechanicum landraider?) , krios battle tank squadron, myrmidon destructors
Fortifications: imperial castellum stronghold
LOW: ordinatus (!!!!!), imperial knights paladin, errant, magaera, styrix, lancer, castigator and acheron

Legio cybernetica appendix: legio cybernetica battle cohort, archmagos ?
Ordo reductor army list appendix (!!): the war covenant of the ordo reductor, the ? of ? army force organisation chart, magos ? , ordo reductor artillery tank battery, ordo reductor minotaur battery (!)
The titan legions: warhound, reaver, warlord

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/08/28 21:14:59


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-px27tzAtVwZpZ4ljopV2w "ashtrays and teacups do not count as cover"
"jack of all trades, master of none; certainly better than a master of one"
The Ordo Reductor - the guy's who make wonderful things like the Landraider Achillies, but can't use them in battle..  
   
Made in gb
Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps





Warwickscire

 SirDonlad wrote:
In the preview pictures i can make out the entries on the back - thought i would list them here.

HQ: magos prime, magos dominus, archmagos draycavac, archmagos inmar satarael, magos reductor calleb decima (!!!!)
Elites: tech-priest auxillia, domitar class battle automata, myrmidon secutors
Troops: adsecularis covenant, thallax cohort, scyllax guardian automata covenant, castellax class battle automata maniple
Fast attack: Ursarax cohort, tarantula sentry gun battery, vorax class battle automata maniple, crusade fleet avenger strike fighter, crusade fleet primaris lightning strike fighter, crusade fleet arvus lighter orbital shuttle (!!!)
Dedicated transport: triaros armoured conveyor
Heavy support: thanatar class siege automata, thanatar-calix class siege automata, thanatar-cynis class siege automata, ? ? (mechanical engineer? makrotek engineseer? mechanicum landraider?) , krios battle tank squadron, myrmidon destructors
Fortifications: imperial castellum stronghold
LOW: ordinatus (!!!!!), imperial knights paladin, errant, magaera, styrix, lancer, castigator and acheron

Legio cybernetica appendix: legio cybernetica ? cohort, archmagos ?
Ordo reductor army list appendix (!!): the war covenant of the ordo reductor, the ? of ? army force organisation chart, magos ? , ordo reductor artillery tank battery, ordo reductor minotaur battery (!)
The titan legions: warhound, reaver, warlord


Nice detective work. Tarantulas, interesting but not unexpected thinking about it. Also, the Minotaur is one of my favourites and I've been needing an excuse to buy one...
   
Made in gb
Mysterious Techpriest







I think they want you to buy three..

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-px27tzAtVwZpZ4ljopV2w "ashtrays and teacups do not count as cover"
"jack of all trades, master of none; certainly better than a master of one"
The Ordo Reductor - the guy's who make wonderful things like the Landraider Achillies, but can't use them in battle..  
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut



Las Vegas

 Manchu wrote:
Clampacks are generally for selling things on racks rather than by mail. Interesting.


Yet they've been clampacking smaller things for quite a while. Smaller things like Legion upgrades, the Praetors, Contemptor weapons, etc, and I've never heard of anyone finding those on racks anywhere.
   
Made in gb
Giggling Nurgling




Staffordshire

shade1313 wrote:
 Manchu wrote:
Clampacks are generally for selling things on racks rather than by mail. Interesting.


Yet they've been clampacking smaller things for quite a while. Smaller things like Legion upgrades, the Praetors, Contemptor weapons, etc, and I've never heard of anyone finding those on racks anywhere.


Maybe, and this may be an utterly mad idea, maybe they store them on racks at the Forgeworld warehouse? It's been three years or so since I managed to get to the Forgeworld Open Day, but the bins they used to store all the old baggies of models in must've accounted for quite a few breakages and bends. The clampacks are more structurally rigid meaning you can move them around in bulk a lot more confidently.
   
Made in gb
Mighty Vampire Count






UK

Hmm love the FW Red Books been waiting for the Mechanicum Collection for some time!

I AM A MARINE PLAYER

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page

A Bloody Road - my Warhammer Fantasy Fiction 
   
Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





The Shire(s)

Do we have any idea when the next full HH book is supposed to be coming out? I'm getting a massive HH fluff bunny itch that can only be scratched by another book to read...
I love the profiles of individual soldiers detailing part of their history and their wargear and heraldry. Really interesting little snapshots into the period.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/08/29 21:42:26


 ChargerIIC wrote:
If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
 
   
Made in us
Sagitarius with a Big F'in Gun



Edmonton, Alberta

Book V was released in May. When was Book IV released? That might give us an idea of when we can expect Book VI
   
Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut





There is Forge World Open Day Amsterdam coming on September 5th, anything new coming up soon will most likely be previewed there.
Hopefully some members of this board will be there too to snap a lot of high quality pictures and/or ask a lot of question from the FW design team members.

I am selling an original "Iron Warriors" painting by Karl Kopinski: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/121232313078?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

 
   
Made in au
Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend




Australia

Book VI will be out before Christmas this year

The Circle of Iniquity
The Fourth Seal
 
   
Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





The Shire(s)

Brilliant, that isn't too long to wait
Also eagerly awaiting the images and info to come out of Amsterdam too.

 ChargerIIC wrote:
If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
 
   
Made in gb
Thermo-Optical Hac Tao





Gosport, UK




Photos of some upcoming transfers from today's bulletin. Legio Fureans and Legio Astorium. Really like both of these.
   
Made in ca
Sagitarius with a Big F'in Gun



Edmonton, Alberta

The solar system/constellation one (Astorium, I'm guessing) is really cool! Very unique. I need a way to use these without dropping hundreds on a titan.
   
Made in nl
[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight

It says so on the top of the sheet.



Fatum Iustum Stultorum



Fiat justitia ruat caelum

 
   
Made in us
Huge Hierodule




United States

Still not a huge fan of the super detailed transfers. I feel like unless your painting standard is super high, they're going to look really out of place when juxtaposed against your painting. Anyways, I got the Centurion today. Lovely model despite the ugly head which actually isn't as bad as I thought when viewed in person. Still not going to use it though. I was a tad disappointed to find that he has the flat Praetor-esque head bulb with the flat bottom and a peg. The torso doesn't seem like it will fit a helmet after several attempts at fitting one, as the chins of every helmet I tried (I tried a lot) get caught on the collar. and look like its too big for his armor. I was able to get a standard plastic bald head into the torso after cutting down the bulb. Just be aware that getting a different head on this guy will require a bit of work!

Hydra Dominatus: My Alpha Legion Blog

Liber Daemonicum: My Daemons of Chaos Blog


Alpharius wrote:Darth Bob's is borderline psychotic and probably means... something...

 
   
Made in gb
Thermo-Optical Hac Tao





Gosport, UK

Speaking of the LE centurion, is it just the power armoured Praetor body with different arms and a different head? I can't see any difference between the bodies on the website.
   
Made in ca
Sagitarius with a Big F'in Gun



Edmonton, Alberta

 BrookM wrote:
It says so on the top of the sheet.


Yes it does, very sorry!
   
Made in gb
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Earth

 ImAGeek wrote:
Speaking of the LE centurion, is it just the power armoured Praetor body with different arms and a different head? I can't see any difference between the bodies on the website.



Yep it is.
   
Made in gb
Thermo-Optical Hac Tao





Gosport, UK

 Formosa wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Speaking of the LE centurion, is it just the power armoured Praetor body with different arms and a different head? I can't see any difference between the bodies on the website.



Yep it is.


Cheers. Not bothered about getting it really now, I'd change the head anyway and if I was gonna use the weapons I could approximate them.
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut



Las Vegas

 Formosa wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Speaking of the LE centurion, is it just the power armoured Praetor body with different arms and a different head? I can't see any difference between the bodies on the website.



Yep it is.


Almost. The torso is actually turned slightly the other direction from the Praetor mini.
   
Made in gb
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Earth

 ImAGeek wrote:
 Formosa wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Speaking of the LE centurion, is it just the power armoured Praetor body with different arms and a different head? I can't see any difference between the bodies on the website.



Yep it is.


Cheers. Not bothered about getting it really now, I'd change the head anyway and if I was gonna use the weapons I could approximate them.


You could make the exact model with the upgrade kit, more expensive I know, but more options.
   
Made in de
Dakka Veteran






 Darth Bob wrote:
Still not a huge fan of the super detailed transfers. I feel like unless your painting standard is super high, they're going to look really out of place when juxtaposed against your painting. Anyways, I got the Centurion today. Lovely model despite the ugly head which actually isn't as bad as I thought when viewed in person. Still not going to use it though. I was a tad disappointed to find that he has the flat Praetor-esque head bulb with the flat bottom and a peg. The torso doesn't seem like it will fit a helmet after several attempts at fitting one, as the chins of every helmet I tried (I tried a lot) get caught on the collar. and look like its too big for his armor. I was able to get a standard plastic bald head into the torso after cutting down the bulb. Just be aware that getting a different head on this guy will require a bit of work!


The larger transfers are also not easy to handle IMO. I will stick to the smaller not overly detailed transfers, but that might be just because I am not painting any vehicles or even Titans.

I have received the Web Praetor as well last week, but did not check out possible helmeted options yet. Only one thing is sure, he will get an alternate head ... be it helmeted or not.

Grey Knights

Red Hunters  
   
Made in us
Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control






 Formosa wrote:
Mechanicum in 40k would be sick, while marines and auxilia are pretty good ish in 40k, mechanicum are a whole other story, I could see people getting annoyed if they use orks, tau etc against them, even eldar would have issues. I'm not calling them op, but they'd be up there with crons and eldar I think in terms of what can be abused and spammed :/

The FAQ has confirmed it is totally legal to run HH armies against regular 40k armies, but most builds will have a massive disadvantage.
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






New Orleans, LA

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
 Formosa wrote:
Mechanicum in 40k would be sick, while marines and auxilia are pretty good ish in 40k, mechanicum are a whole other story, I could see people getting annoyed if they use orks, tau etc against them, even eldar would have issues. I'm not calling them op, but they'd be up there with crons and eldar I think in terms of what can be abused and spammed :/

The FAQ has confirmed it is totally legal to run HH armies against regular 40k armies, but most builds will have a massive disadvantage.


Are you talking about this FAQ?

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Betrayal_FAQ_Errata_V2.pdf

This is just the equivalent of FW saying: "Feel free to play how you like! You might need house rules to make it work!"

Q: Are the armies and units in the Horus Heresy books by Forge World meant to be used in games against regular Codex armies, such as say Grey Knights or Orks?
A:While Forge World’s on-going range of Horus Heresy books and their game content are all designed to use and be compatible with the Warhammer 40,000 rules, they have been fine-tuned and focused on playing battles in the milieu of the Horus Heresy rather than in conjunction with the Codexes representing warfare in the 41stMillennium, and this will remain the case.

Designer’s Note: This means that while you are, of course, free to have fun and play games against your friends using any forces you like, and Horus Heresy forces will be broadly ‘a fair fight’ with Codex forces of the same scale, certain rules anomalies and inconsistencies may be thrown up that you have to deal with, although these should not seriously affect the game in most cases. (For example, certain units, such as those with the Stubborn special rule are at a premium costing in Horus Heresy armies over their regular Codex counterparts, owing to the results of play testing within their own sphere.)

In terms of using Lords of War and the Primarchs, however, these are definitely not intended to be used in standard Warhammer 40,000 games, but only in games where both sides use the Age of Darkness Force Organisation chart, andthe specific provisions within, and in games of 2,000 points or greater.

Designer’s Note:
So if, for example, you wanted to play a battle representing a narrative where the Sons of Horus Legion fought Orks or Eldar during the Great Crusade, you could quite easily use those xenos Forces’ Warhammer 40,000 Codexes (possibly house-ruled to accommodate larger squads) to proxy for their Heresy-era counterparts. In this case, however, both sides should be using the Age of Darkness Force Organisation chart, with the army’s own Apocalypse level units and flyers available as Lords of War entries following the guidelines found on page 184 of Betrayal.

DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
 
   
Made in us
Huge Hierodule




United States

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
The FAQ has confirmed it is totally legal to run HH armies against regular 40k armies, but most builds will have a massive disadvantage.


Volkite alone is massively overpowered against horde armies like Orks, Guard, and Tyranids.

Hydra Dominatus: My Alpha Legion Blog

Liber Daemonicum: My Daemons of Chaos Blog


Alpharius wrote:Darth Bob's is borderline psychotic and probably means... something...

 
   
Made in gb
Thermo-Optical Hac Tao





Gosport, UK

 Darth Bob wrote:
 Bronzefists42 wrote:
The FAQ has confirmed it is totally legal to run HH armies against regular 40k armies, but most builds will have a massive disadvantage.


Volkite alone is massively overpowered against horde armies like Orks, Guard, and Tyranids.


That's about it though, I don't think anything else is massively strong.
   
 
Forum Index » News & Rumors
Go to: