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2016/01/11 18:37:00
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
Was lucky enough to get the Algoryn Skirmish Force from the missus for Christmas whilst my Dad got me the Concord Combined Command Starter army...just far too much BTGOA goodness to cope with.
Did I pick the "Space Marines" of the Antares game?!?
They would probably be the closest thing in Antares to marines, but they're different enough. Still waiting for my Concord army box to arrive... stupid mail...
2016/01/11 19:20:06
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
Did I pick the "Space Marines" of the Antares game?!?
the closest thing to Space Marines in GoA are the Ghar. One can almost detect a few subtle jabs at 40k in general and space marines specifically in the background and technology of the Ghar. They are the closest analog, being "generically engineered soldiers" that know "only war" and wear "powered armor" that requires a reactor and still uses slug-throwing weaponry.
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke
2016/01/11 19:24:09
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
I meant "Space Marines of Antares" in terms of the faction that many will be playing!
Hopefully there will be a fairly even spread among all factions...wherever it is I go to get games of Antares in!
Oh hahaha my mistake
Well as of this moment Concord and Ghar are the easiest to play because of the starter set and the plastics available. Sort of like how USA and Germany were the easiest when Bolt Action came out in 2012 due to only those plastics being available. With time you'll get a much larger spread - the factions play quite differently! And everyone's waiting for the Isorians because apparently even the models previewed in the rulebook are just proofs of concept and not final at all!
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke
2016/01/11 19:51:42
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
Alex C wrote: So the concensus on this game is good?
Wife likes the activation mechanic so we are looking to try the game. It seems to have been well received.
You're going to get a bit of a biased perspective asking in this thread. It seems ok but I've never played. I've got my concerns on token spam and some of the model/faction aesthetics but it looks like it has potential now (as opposed to during the poorly executed kickstarter). They've used the years since well.
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2016/01/11 22:01:31
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
That Ghar command crawler is a conversion using Robogear parts someone posted on Facebook.
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke
2016/01/12 14:09:46
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
Alex C wrote: So the concensus on this game is good?
Wife likes the activation mechanic so we are looking to try the game. It seems to have been well received.
So far I'm liking it. I think (I have to play more to be sure) that the activation mechanic works more unevenly at low units games (as in, a row of activations from the same side will have a bigger impact), but as the number of units get bigger it will even out. At bigger unit games command units will probably feel a lot better (at low points, I didn't really see the point of fielding them when not forced to).
2016/01/15 09:33:29
Subject: Re:Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
Maybe I'm just too brow beaten by Games Workshop and their "other stuff doesn't exist!" policy for decades but... is the official GOA channel showing off a conversion of a primarily other company's model in a video?
edit: I booboo'ed. The models are indeed different as pointed out below.
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2016/01/15 14:18:41
Subject: Re:Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
After hearing the D6 interview, I got pretty excited. The gameplay sounds like a great update to sci-fi table top miniatures games.
I'd like to buy the book and a faction. But, from the site, I can't really tell how they play. I'm not too into the Ghar (but maybe I am, don't know) based on look and low model count. So, I don't think I want the starter box
Any chance somebody can map BtGoA to 40k factions for me?
For example, I assume:
C3 = IG due to large model count and mostly shooting and losing troops is no big deal
Algoryn = Eldar? I basing this on aesthetics alone
2016/01/15 19:09:22
Subject: Re:Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
evancich wrote: After hearing the D6 interview, I got pretty excited. The gameplay sounds like a great update to sci-fi table top miniatures games.
I'd like to buy the book and a faction. But, from the site, I can't really tell how they play. I'm not too into the Ghar (but maybe I am, don't know) based on look and low model count. So, I don't think I want the starter box
Any chance somebody can map BtGoA to 40k factions for me?
For example, I assume:
C3 = IG due to large model count and mostly shooting and losing troops is no big deal
Algoryn = Eldar? I basing this on aesthetics alone
Nobody can map the Gates of Antares factions to equivalent 40K factions. They aren't meant to be analogues for 40K armies. This isn't Mantic.
But I'm sure someone can give a quick overview on how the factions play. I think I saw a good summary of that somewhere.
2016/01/15 19:26:36
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
I can't help with any 40K mapping to Antares mostly because, like Albino Squirrel wrote, it's not analogous. It's early in the life cycle of the game so how factions play I'm sure will be viewed differently now vs. the future when more models and units are released.
I've been playing with and against the following and so far here is what I see on how some of the factions play:
Concord - Very good weapons, good at shooting from range. Not superior when up close and in hand to hand. Not bad though even at that. I do love my drop troopers!
Ghar - Elite Suits and Horde units. Not as many units and less flexible with their force structure. Very tough suits, they can take punishment. Hordes can be made shooty and very much a threat. I fight against Ghar a lot these days, very popular faction.
Algoryn - Good shooting and above average close combat. I like to field this faction the most. I am able to take on all comers so far with my force but it requires a different way of playing vs. when I field my Concord. Algoryn don't have plasma weapons for all their soldiers.
Boromites - They like to get up close and are very tough. Really good heavy weapon to. Slow. Still very powerful when used correctly.
Freeborn - I've only fought against them a couple of times. They seem like a faction with a lot of options.
Iosorians - Haven't fought them yet. I suspect they're going to be similar to Concord.
Remember that drones and shards are a part of the game and that while they do the same thing in game, IE: a targeter probe...targets stuff. How or if you use them varies between factions and changes how they play. Hopefully someone will find the good summary and post a link to that.
Edit: and I can't wait to get that new Concord Howitzer. Very nice looking model and I think it'll see a lot of use on the table, even with my Concord Drop Trooper force.
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2016/01/15 19:38:58
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
Warlord Games has announced to release the german rules within the first half of 2016 according to Christian on Brückenkopf-Online. That is quite important for us here
Maybe even some other language editions are in the works as well?
I don't know about the French, Spanish and Portuguese markets but in Germany you will have a much larger crowd to sell to if you translate the rules of a tabletop system. It is not because of ignorance but the average english skill level here makes it hard to get into, regularily play with and especially enjoying a game with non-german rules for many players (That's what you get told quite often). For people starting with the tabletop hobby, translated rules are a must.
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2016/01/19 15:19:46
Subject: Re:Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
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2016/01/19 15:57:43
Subject: Beyond the Gates of Antares: The Ongoing News & Rumors Thread
Individual model poses are now available to order direct.
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke