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This may be of some interest then: 'Unlike Battle Titans, all Emperor class Titans carry short range anti-infantry weaponry to keep enemy assault troops at bay.' Titan Legions Rule Book page 44

Some sort of automated defence system for all Titans seems entirely reasonable despite what that entry says above; even a Warhound could and should have a few automated bolter turrets to protect itself. On a Warlord it is extremely silly to suggest that they can't or don't have such defence systems or that the crew could not act as such.

Let's equate the situation with 20th century Battleships.

In 1906 (I believe) the 'Dreadnought' was launched, the first all big gun Battleship. Eight years later airplanes became a potential threat so machineguns were equipped on Battleships. Fast forward to WWII and the Super Dreadnoughts had big guns, 4.5 and 5.0 inch secondary guns plus numerous AA cannon.

How vulnerable would a Battleship be without the anti-aircraft defense?

 The_Blackadder wrote:
Let's equate the situation with 20th century Battleships.

In 1906 (I believe) the 'Dreadnought' was launched, the first all big gun Battleship. Eight years later airplanes became a potential threat so machineguns were equipped on Battleships. Fast forward to WWII and the Super Dreadnoughts had big guns, 4.5 and 5.0 inch secondary guns plus numerous AA cannon.

How vulnerable would a Battleship be without the anti-aircraft defense?

For sure. In one of the recent HH novels, "Betrayer" the World Eaters take down a Titan by getting into its legs and killing all the crew. So it definitely makes sense for it to have anti-personnel as well as Anti-Aircraft guns.

Together Again, Again:

This time with the upper torso reassembled. I haven't seen this this complete until today when it's been completely assembled (aside from a few glitches such as the new beefier gun stanchions interfere with the catwalks and the interior of the main guns barrels need to be painted. I started highlighting basic shiny armour with metallic gold and copper dry pigments but only on the interior. The effect needs a little refining before pictures.

http://i.imgur.com/EO1R8nx.jpg


The exterior needs some lighter silvery highlights and quite a few splashes of colour I know but right now I am overly pleased with the effect so far.

http://i.imgur.com/kFFEZGs.jpg


These low angle shots really show the majesty of this titan much more so than straight on and high level images especially without pieces that demonstrate the scale of the beast.

http://i.imgur.com/VcUaPke.jpg


I have to install locking washers on the axles because the upper torso has become so heavy the bolts loosen just standing static and Luteus almost took a header off the telly console and I caught it just in time before it crashed to the floor.

http://i.imgur.com/9E1d6i9.jpg


Note in the view above the engineering upper gallery faceted rectangular view ports, I may highlight those with copper bands so the glue seams don't show.

http://i.imgur.com/k8ErOjW.jpg


Finally what every grunt longs for; that a Warlord has passed him by and he can still lives to tell about it.

In all not a bad week's effort...........I may celebrate tonight with a Martini.

By The Emperor, that thing is HUGE! Outstanding attention to detail, Blackadder, it looks fantastic... enjoy that Martini!

When you're all done, you NEED to take some Grunt's Eye View pics of that with a greenscreen behind it, so we can all take a shot at putting it in a suitable background.

I planned to use these photos for just such a purpose.

BTW Cosmic, I haven't measured it lately but the last time I checked it was 70 CM in height i.e. just shy of 28 inches.

Good catch, that would have been a drag!

Are there going to be interior lights in the engineering upper gallery faceted rectangular view ports? They may not need any highlighting if there is some sort of red engineering lighting coming from within.

Great work. Hope to see the finished product soon.

Holy crap on a cracker with butter and cherry on top... wow!

 Sammoth wrote:
Great work. Hope to see the finished product soon.

No not finished (Will it ever be "Finished" probably not?) but ostensibly for now the main components are satisfactorily completed.

Still to be done:

Highlighting the armour with silvers, golds, and copper and a steel blue wash in certain areas plus an overall black wash to reveal the detail.

Interior paint, computer panels and more lighting.

Chasing circuits for the plasma weapons and turbo lasers (Still haven't figured those out?)

Assorted heraldry and purity seals.

Assorted Banners and battle pendants.

Crew, gunners, tech priests and auto and manned small arms (Bolters) installations.

A display base and stand.

Thanks for getting me to formulate a list although I'm sure it's not complete...........

Such an impressive amount of detail and effort in there. And even if you get even half of that list completed then itis going to be a real wonder to behold!
Hats off!

 AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:
Seconded...

I would like to see you Black if possible attempt the warlord Melta cannon and Quake cannon too

The Hellstorm cannon you showed interest in is an Emperor class weapon and as such as a tad too large for a Warlord

Is "Anunearthlychild" and "Mxwllmdr" & etc (way too many to list here) still posting on this forum? I am about to start building additional weapons for "Dirty Harry " and crave their input for these cannon. I just reread this thread and miss all my old bud's.

I always liked Mxwllmdr projects. Sadly he hasn't posted in almost a year. But then I wonder, being that I have just lurked for a few years now, who knows when someone is around or will come back.

Is there a Mars pattern Warlord in your future?



Seems the buzz is that FW will be relasing a Mars Warlord in the first half of this year according to:

http://battlebunnies.blogspot.com/2015/04/soooooo-who-is-up-for-warlord-titan.html?showComment=1429094217110#c3746920820961701592

unless this is the cruelest April fools joke imaginable. Now why they were keeping this a secret is beyond comprehension because unless you're independently wealth you're going to have to save up to buy one of these because the projected price will be around £914 (1351.86 US Dollars); hope that includes weapons.


The good news is it appears 1.5 to 2.0 times taller than the Reaver Titan judging by the main gun showing
in the Reaver image:



so my Lucius Warlord is in the same ball park:


http://i.imgur.com/kFFEZGs.jpg


plus it's a Mars so there's no conflict there......... Whew!

Anvildude wrote:
When you're all done, you NEED to take some Grunt's Eye View pics of that with a greenscreen behind it, so we can all take a shot at putting it in a suitable background.

Missed this post,

Looking up how to make a green screen

 The_Blackadder wrote:

Anvildude wrote:
When you're all done, you NEED to take some Grunt's Eye View pics of that with a greenscreen behind it, so we can all take a shot at putting it in a suitable background.

Missed this post,

Looking up how to make a green screen

Get some from the local art store. They have it there.

I am loving the progress and while your list of "remaining actions" remains long, I believe in you Blackadder!

Something Unholy Comes This Way:

A tease in the FW newsletter; the foot pad of the Mars Warlord. and a scale figure so I can do a bit of calculating.



To my eye it seems a bit smaller than my 'Luteus' but that might just be my paranoia.

Anyway there is significant changes in detail from the Epic Warlord cast metal titan I based my model on so I shall have to see if any amendments can be made to 'Luteus Vexant' I believe what is presented here are the diagonal trapezoidal toes. which are detachable on mine so modifications should be easy.

See boys and girls, "Craziness pays........."




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Side by Side:

It's easy to see why FW gets the big bucks.



Luteus is hopelessly out classed; Fah!

Don't quit yer day job Blackadder..........


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 pantheralegionnaire wrote:
I am loving the progress and while your list of "remaining actions" remains long, I believe in you Blackadder!

Green Screen Hyjinks:

Well since Luteus has been usurped I figure I'll have some fun before the real Warlord comes out.

Red Eye Panorama I call this one:

http://i.imgur.com/3PxUvq0.jpg


Hey this green screen stuff is kinda fun..........

Bah. The took the easy way out with those non-working ball joints. There's no way that design would actually be able to support the weight and still have a full range of motion- besides which, there's not even any proper connection points there, just a little bit of smoke and mirrors trying to handwave away the discrepancies and pass off 'ruffles and holes' as mounting points.

Right you are, this is what I wrote about ankle joints and ball socket foot attachments back in 2012 when I was just starting this Warlord below highlighted in red:

 The_Blackadder wrote:

Xypus wrote:

The_Blackadder wrote:I don't know I stated this before but I did some studies on the dynamics of walking ...

Hi, I've been following your t'hawk project for some time and this project from the start; I'm also wrestling with a functional Warlord design and your efforts are very helpful.

I was really curious how are you gonna tackle the articulation of the toes and seeing what you've devised I have some questions and comments:

- don't you think that the side toes should also have some upwards mobility? In case, for example, of the foot stepping into some depression in the ground? In such case they could easily get damaged or impair the stability of the whole construct, if the ground didn't yield.

The way I interpret the toes the diagonal toes are stationary or extend to increase stability when the opposing foot is in the air. The side toes do not need to flex upward.

do you plan to mask somehow the hinge mechanism in the side toes? As it is now it's clearly visible with the toe bent down.

It's not visible now with the hydraulic compartments installed the hinge is completely hidden.

you seem to have run out of room for the articulation of the diagonal stabilizing toes. I imagine they should have quite large range of movement not to restrict the front toe, which might be the case here.

also I'm wondering if it's a good idea to place the hinge on the upper edge of the front toe - there's quite a gap from the underside when it's bent and I can't help but think what would happen with the real thing if something got stuck in there (like a tank turret, or a fragment of a ferrocrete wall). According to your theory of walking it would impair the Titan's ability to actually step forward.

I'm only following the visual evidence on the rather primitive epic model I would suppose that on a real titan precautions would be taken to prevent jamming and FOD.

why didn't you choose to articulate the 'ankle' with a ball joint, as it is with Warhound Titans? It seems to be an easiest and most intuitive design - and three enormous actuators on the Epic Titan model, one in the back an two on the sides, seem to corroborate such a construction.

I explained that in an earlier post but I will repeat it here:

The model shows a disc shaped plate at the end of the shank that is not in the Warhound. I see no evidence of steering/tilting actuators as in the Warhound.

The Warlord needn't be as quick or nimble as a Warhound any more than a battleship needs to emulate a destroyer and therefore doesn't require the flexibility the ball socket affords. Instead it has the benefit of the much stronger ankle attachment with one axis above and one axis below the disc that incidentally is similar to the way the human foot works that also does not employ a ball/socket arrangement although nature does have ball and socket joints elsewhere in the body i.e. shoulder and hip.

You're not going to quibble with the Grand Designer are you?

Also you have to remember that the ball/socket in the Warhound is not the ankle. The actual ankle is the joint above the greaves. which cannot turn or swivel. What the ball/socket is corresponds to the so-called ball of our foot directly behind the toes. The Warhound actually walks/runs on tiptoes as we do when we run. It's an entirely different means of locomotion.

(Forgive my wording or spelling errors, I'm not a native speaker).

You could have fooled me.

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I'm not posting anymore until I get an interrupt........

Ha! I just saw that Forge World teaser and came looking for this thread....only to find you had already posted the pic! Don't be hard on yourself, man--they are trying to keep up with YOU!

It should be fun to see how it progresses, and I must say once again that I am so impressed with your positive attitude. That your reaction to this was "Oh, well, I can easily make some modifications to my (own amazing) model"...that's just incredible. So, well done to you, on all counts!

Thanks and thanks for the interrupt.

Luteus Vexant Stands 160 feet (49 meters) tall.
This is not a kit, everything is handmade from scratch fabricated from individual bits of styrene. There are well over 10,000 bits of plastic glued together some no bigger than the head of a pin. "Luteus Vexant" is the name I chose for the Warlord It in Latin loosely translated means "Dirty Harry." The Titan has a full interior with five levels completely furnished and manned with a crew. I am still in the process of wiring the lighting and it needs more paint.

http://i.imgur.com/NgEqa30.jpg

You know, the Warlord they're making is a Mars Pattern titan. Your's could be a different pattern from another forgeworld.

 Valhalla130 wrote:
You know, the Warlord they're making is a Mars Pattern titan. Your's could be a different pattern from another forgeworld.

Yes it's a Lucius Pattern..........

The only other Titan I know of is the Warhound that was made by Forge World in the Lucius Pattern. I'm sure it was a matter of economy but both Lucius and Mars (and Chaos for that matter) share the same overall leg and hip and waist components.

This apparently is not the case in the Warlord and the Reaver.

You don't need a green screen, per se. You do need no shadows on the screen. A white background would do if there are no shadows. I tried 'shopping just now but gave up cutting around things. ;-)



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(And you want to avoid green reflecting on the side or that'll get cut out by accident!)

Somebody asked if I could come up with a green screen; I believe it was on this forum.

Well the Blackadder isn't anything if he isn't obliging so I went out and bought some green screen material and a set of LED track lights (Big bucks..) and spent the weekend learning how to photoshop green screen and now you tell me I don't need green screen Arrgh!

Bring me the head of Anvildude

Heh.

The reason for the 'green' is because green is not often used in costuming and such- or rather, that shade isn't. What you can do with this green-screen'd picture is use a photo-manip program (GIMP or Photoshop or whatever) and use a Color-Select that is looking for all the connected green in the shade range that includes the shadows, and replace that. You'd also want another layer that takes the green reflections that appear on the Titan itself and re-color those to work with the implaced background.

Of course, you need to pick a background image with lighting that matches the lighting on the Titan as well, so it doesn't look out of place. That's the biggest cause of 'obvious green-screen' out there- non-matching lighting.

"Heh" Huh!

I was looking to buy track lights anyway I needed an overhead light source in the corner I take my photos in.

The green screen was $10 bucks for ten sheets of poster paper

Day glow green; a small outlay.

So what can you do with what I've posted? I presume you have the necessary program to manipulate the image.

GIMP is free.

I'd probably be able to do some simple cut'n'paste- problem is, I've not been trained in how to determine lighting angles in still images and all that, so I can't really do everything I was talking about, with matching light sources and all that.

But I could see about getting your Titan in a wasteland, battlefield or cityscape.