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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 14:02:29
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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Conrad Turner wrote:
And the Zeus isn't doing much for me either. Can't really put my finger on it, and I do realise that this is a really early render, but I think it could do with being
A. a little longer in the breach, and probably the barrel too. longer barrels rob some of the power, but increase accuracy, so this seems to be a little too close to the Stuka Zu Fuss - powerfull but not necessarily that accurate.
B. a little higher (Possibly). The longer the breach, the lower the angle it will be stopped at when it hits the floor, so the nearer horizontal it will be firing.
It may also be I was thinking more of a variant with a 'flat-bed' rear and a turret mounted AA flak quad or the equivalent of an '88' on the back.
The Zeus is based off a real WWII German variant of the vehicle the APC is based off of. The gun is a short range howitzer for infantry support, firing high explosive shells at infantry, not other vehicles.
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Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 14:10:23
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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I was actually about to comment on how much I liked the gun section, Mark has done a great job of adding some realism to the vehicles and infantry alike, no giant oversized guns, vehicles which can actually fit troops in and no giant shoulder pads!
I would like to see some larger mounted weapons in the future however. These would probably be on a new chassis though as it would not really suit a pair of flak cannons sitting on the top imo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 14:10:28
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Lord of the Fleet
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Mad4Minis wrote: Conrad Turner wrote:
And the Zeus isn't doing much for me either. Can't really put my finger on it, and I do realise that this is a really early render, but I think it could do with being
A. a little longer in the breach, and probably the barrel too. longer barrels rob some of the power, but increase accuracy, so this seems to be a little too close to the Stuka Zu Fuss - powerfull but not necessarily that accurate.
B. a little higher (Possibly). The longer the breach, the lower the angle it will be stopped at when it hits the floor, so the nearer horizontal it will be firing.
It may also be I was thinking more of a variant with a 'flat-bed' rear and a turret mounted AA flak quad or the equivalent of an '88' on the back.
The Zeus is based off a real WWII German variant of the vehicle the APC is based off of. The gun is a short range howitzer for infantry support, firing high explosive shells at infantry, not other vehicles.
Most likely the 7.5cm one right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 14:12:37
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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kenshin620 wrote: Mad4Minis wrote: Conrad Turner wrote:
And the Zeus isn't doing much for me either. Can't really put my finger on it, and I do realise that this is a really early render, but I think it could do with being
A. a little longer in the breach, and probably the barrel too. longer barrels rob some of the power, but increase accuracy, so this seems to be a little too close to the Stuka Zu Fuss - powerfull but not necessarily that accurate.
B. a little higher (Possibly). The longer the breach, the lower the angle it will be stopped at when it hits the floor, so the nearer horizontal it will be firing.
It may also be I was thinking more of a variant with a 'flat-bed' rear and a turret mounted AA flak quad or the equivalent of an '88' on the back.
The Zeus is based off a real WWII German variant of the vehicle the APC is based off of. The gun is a short range howitzer for infantry support, firing high explosive shells at infantry, not other vehicles.
Most likely the 7.5cm one right?

Id say thats the one. A couple of those mixed in with the troop carriers to soften up the enemy before you deploy infantry.
Also of note...the "6 Rad" wheeled APC from WWII is seems to be as much inspiration (if not more) for the Eisenkern APC than that half-track.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/09/15 14:14:32
Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 14:19:32
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
Berlin
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Yup, the Zeus is the equivalent to the real life Sdkfz 250/8 Neu 'Stummel' Halftrack or Sdkfz 251/9 Stummel Halftrack. Equipped with a 7.5 cm L/24 low velocity Gun, both halftracks were nicknamed the Stummel (Stump).
By sheer coincidence I just converted a 1/100 Kätzchen model into a fictional SdKfz 255/8 Stummel Kätzchen ...
http://www.adpublishing.de/html/15mm_german.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 14:36:17
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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While the big gun is nice in the picture, I'm overwhelmed by the size of the rifle just over it. That must have been a hell of a weapon, mano-a-mano.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 14:42:52
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
Berlin
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Mathieu Raymond wrote:While the big gun is nice in the picture, I'm overwhelmed by the sixe of the rifle just over it. That must have been a hell of a weapon, mano-a-mano.
?? Sorry don't get it.
Are talking about the E-50 tank?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 14:47:00
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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No, the one posted originally by Kenshin620. And I fixed my sixe to size.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 14:49:28
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
Berlin
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Of that is just a MG-42, it might look that big because of the small size of the halftrack!
Automatically Appended Next Post: BTW - just finshed the female Kriegsmarine Trooper conversion:
Still works for me!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 15:45:45
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 15:55:30
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
Berlin
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She is fronm Statuesque Minis Female Resistance Fighter!
I am planning to use the female Kriegsmarine as new DAK troopers together with Tina from DUST:
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/09/15 21:51:37
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 16:05:32
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Really wish I could shell out more cash for the apc + cannon :( betcha we can still get high enough to unlock it though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 16:25:29
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
I don't even KNOW anymore.
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Just noticed that Ada was unlocked - very nice. KS is at $173K now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 17:11:12
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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Necros wrote:Really wish I could shell out more cash for the apc + cannon :( betcha we can still get high enough to unlock it though 
Me too. Oh well, Ill be awaiting its regular release. They can count me as a guaranteed sale, just not able to sign up for it right now.
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Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 17:25:02
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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I agree, that is a very well done model. Unfortunately, I just checked the Statuesque Minis site and it looks like you can only get the helmeted heads separately. The bare heads come with the resistance fighter models.
But I wonder if these heads will work?
http://www.meowmeowminis.com/Galactic_Chevaliers_Bare_Heads_5/p1646481_7725411.aspx
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 17:48:56
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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[DCM]
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Mad4Minis wrote: Necros wrote:Really wish I could shell out more cash for the apc + cannon :( betcha we can still get high enough to unlock it though 
Me too. Oh well, Ill be awaiting its regular release. They can count me as a guaranteed sale, just not able to sign up for it right now.
Same here, unfortunately.
Real Life expenses + other recently ended Kickstarters have drained my hobby funds.
I'll be there for the retail release of the Iron Core line though!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 18:38:05
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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the meow meow minis look promising, but I'd like to see a bit more variety.
Ideally, I'd like to see Defiance sell their head sprues separate, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 19:14:30
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Over 177K now, getting close to it  11 hours to go.
Just posted asking Mark when he'll put up the price of that conversion kit, it must be coming very shortly!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 19:56:12
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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The price for the Zeus upgrade has been posted in the new calculator ($15 each).
After upping my pledge to include extra Ada models and three Zeus+APCs, my final total is not $1337. Kind of an appropriate number, eh?
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 20:23:04
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Heroic Senior Officer
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How much are extra ada models? I cant find a price for them anywhere.
Its either going to be me buying like 5 of her, or another ten man squad. I cant affor anything more sadly...
Also, when will ada be mailed? Stage 2 or 3 right?
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'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
"Sector Imperialis: 25mm and 40mm Round Bases (40+20) 26€ (Including 32 skulls for basing) " GW design philosophy in a nutshell |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 20:28:47
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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Another Ada would be the grand price of two of your American dollars, not bad right? Oh and she is coming in the first shipment. Just check the calculator as Mark updates that before anything else for some reason! Automatically Appended Next Post: Hmm, I wonder if I would be able to interchange the Regular APC parts with the Zeus bit? Would mean I don't need to buy half as many if I could!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 20:57:36
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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Alpharius wrote: Mad4Minis wrote: Necros wrote:Really wish I could shell out more cash for the apc + cannon :( betcha we can still get high enough to unlock it though 
Me too. Oh well, Ill be awaiting its regular release. They can count me as a guaranteed sale, just not able to sign up for it right now.
Same here, unfortunately.
Real Life expenses + other recently ended Kickstarters have drained my hobby funds.
I'll be there for the retail release of the Iron Core line though!
Thats exactly my case. My plans to move got delayed, costing more than moving would have, wife is out of work, and Soda Pop ended last weekend. To top it all off a check I was expecting didnt come this week. What Im wondering now is are the ship dates for the stages also the retail release dates?
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Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 21:02:39
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Nice number, Tann
Retail release dates are likely delayed from KS ship dates, imo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 21:05:20
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Morphing Obliterator
The Frigid North of Minneapolis
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I was worried that being pretty broke, I wouldn't be able to finally get in on this. But a flurry of Swap Shop/Bartertown sales have replenished my Paypal funds, and I am down for a Crusader and 20 Stormtroopers.
I would like to be down for a 15mm Mortis too, and 4 arms for it, but I think I am just going to have to wait for that. Since I wouldn't get it until 6 months down the road, it doesn't bother me too much. Between now and then I can save a few pennies here and there, and hopefully we'll have a better idea of when and how these items might be available to purchase outside of this Kickstarter. I definitely plan to patronize Mark's work again in the future, and hope that it isn't too long before these models see the light of day (or the dark of various FLGS shelves... )
-C6
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 21:09:38
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
West Midlands (UK)
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Well, looks like it's gathering steam for the showdown
Tweet, Tweet
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 22:09:50
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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 I hated to do it but had to drop my pledge down to almost nothing. A friend of the family who had been a pastor at ou previous church has had a terrible tragedy. His ten year old daughter has been on life support for the last week, it was unexpected and there has been no higher brain function. She was taken off of life support the other night. We are still praying for a miracle, but are expecting the worst. He has been out of work for six months and has no medical insurance, bill are stacking p frm the doctors.
I still have some in this kickstarter because I think mark has some of the best models out there.
If any dakkite out there believes in a god, please put Jessica in you prayers. Thanks.
Theophony
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 22:13:34
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Dankhold Troggoth
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That's terrible news (not about the KS) Theophony... Sorry to hear it.
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As many backers as day 1! Getting close to the magic number
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 22:17:05
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Theophony wrote:  I hated to do it but had to drop my pledge down to almost nothing. A friend of the family who had been a pastor at ou previous church has had a terrible tragedy. His ten year old daughter has been on life support for the last week, it was unexpected and there has been no higher brain function. She was taken off of life support the other night. We are still praying for a miracle, but are expecting the worst. He has been out of work for six months and has no medical insurance, bill are stacking p frm the doctors.
I still have some in this kickstarter because I think mark has some of the best models out there.
If any dakkite out there believes in a god, please put Jessica in you prayers. Thanks.
Theophony
I think the money is much better sent to a good cause like that. Besides, these minis will be seeing the light of day now, so you can always pick up the rest at your FLGS someday. Right now, that preacher needs the money more.
Besides, the guy has got over 180 grand in the kickstarter, he'll be ok. People like me are getting a little antsy and doubling our pledges
I went from 20 dudes and thats it, to 40 guys, 4 more of the Ada figure, and an extra accessory pack for the heck of it. Don't be surprised if you see it go up and down a lot though, I'll be fiddling with it a bit as I decide what I "want" and what I "need" to get my sisters of battle finally off the ground. The 40 stormtroopers and ada's are definitely staying though!
I can't wait to get these minis. If they're half as good as they look on the kickstarter, they will be worth every penny!
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'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
"Sector Imperialis: 25mm and 40mm Round Bases (40+20) 26€ (Including 32 skulls for basing) " GW design philosophy in a nutshell |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 23:02:31
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Wow, less than 1K to go till we hit the stretch! I wonder if this will top 200K
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 23:12:12
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstart ends Saturday- Final stretch, APC conversion kit!
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[DCM]
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Tannhauser42 wrote:The price for the Zeus upgrade has been posted in the new calculator ($15 each).
After upping my pledge to include extra Ada models and three Zeus+APCs, my final total is not $1337. Kind of an appropriate number, eh?
I an curious - just exactly what are you getting?!?
(And yes, I am jealous!)
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