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2016/10/26 04:35:57
Subject: Mostly Scratch Built Stuff on the Cheap - 40K Genestealer Cult at the moment
Tried a different technique for the Sentinel bases. Used alluminum foil to get an impression off of some techy looking bits that were laying around, then filled those impressions with hot glue. Waited for it to harden then hot glued it to the base. After that, all it took was a sharp pair of scissors to trim it to the proper shape.
Experimented with the foil top off a snack sized can of Pringles Chips and it worked better, with the thicker aluminum foil lid. Next grocery run will include a roll of the heaviest aluminum foil to be found.
I've looked forward to seeing how they will look with some paint, but It's been too cold an rainy to base coat, with black matte spray paint. Hopefully it's something that can be accomplished tomorrow.
Have some progress pictures to upload as well.
Genestealer Cult Icons, in foil.
Tech detail panel, in foil.
Statue Face, in foil.
Any ideas that would be a good application of this technique ?
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since you have a relatively flexible substance here... what about making treads? for tanks?....a long and rather thin band of treads then made to a kind of bracelet?...could be you´re bound for a revolution...
The detail is only one side, so I wouldn't use the method for wings, but strips of rivets is another excellent suggestion.
The mold material is aluminum foil, so there isn't really any give. If you don't allow enough slack, it tears. If you allow too much slack you end up with additional material bunched up.
Admittedly, aluminum foil is very thin, and you can press it nearly flat if you don't over do it.
Silicon molds would reproduce pretty much anything better than aluminum foil, but require more time and resources. The Foil method is great for small, mostly flat things, that you would likely only need one or two of.
Converted death chickens look great! those Mega nobz must have had the most, and biggest teef collections!
The doors are great! I could see some for buildings, some for ship hallways, especially that iris door.
"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
2016/10/29 23:39:52
Subject: Mostly Scratch Built Stuff on the Cheap - 40K Genestealer Cult at the moment
Yeah, most of those nobz are Warboss sized. A slight disadvantage mechanically for the sake of looking cool.
When I posted those Chicken Walkers over on Facebook , some people were upset I desecrated hard to find OOP Star Ship Troopers models to make them. It made that conversion work completely worth it It's not like I was going to use them for Star Ship Troopers, with it being our of production and hard to get models for.
Did back both of the Trash Bash Bits Kickstarters, still waiting on the models from the second one. Been procrastinating making a proper silicone mold for them to make enough to suit my modeling needs. Trying to focus on models and not get caught up constantly turning out new terrain.
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Cheap easy alternatives to silicone are available. Your foil technique is very interesting, and will be borrowing it. One or too things I can think of you trying out would be individual panels for ork use. See if you can get a bit of checker plate and cut it into miscellaneous shapes and add a rivet or too, then cast, so you have various panels to stick to a basic design or kit. You could also do brickwork, rock walls and just odd face stones for sticking to foam core to make it a bit more interesting adding texture. Thin stone sections would definitely be an idea. Control panels would be another idea. If you have a friend in catering ask if they can get you some industrial grade foil from the kitchens, that is usually thicker stuff, but would also suggest doubling your layers of foil.
To be honest though, I have found good results casting with Plasticine for if you just need a few of something, and £20 will buy you a lot of Blue Stuff, that stuff that you "melt" in hot water, way more useful than silicone to us and you can reuse it over and over. I have no issues with silicone myself though, got a batch at present sets up in 4 hours, very good tear resistance, no problems to work with. Spent £30 on a pot of stuff you melt in the microwave, it is great, except the heat can be an issue.
Lastly, how are you applying your hot glue, out the gun? Try melting it in a pan, don't go too far, and use an dedicated pan, but this gives you a pouring consistency much better for getting into the details. Have seen videos of people making moulds like this.
After all that, love your results so far, great work, and as always inspirational.
2016/10/30 05:48:51
Subject: Re:Mostly Scratch Built Stuff on the Cheap - 40K Genestealer Cult at the moment
The foil thing is basically embossing taken to the next level. You get some alluminum foil, sturdier is better, form it around something you want to duplicate, peel it off, and then fill the inside with glue , to allow it to keep it's form.
Yeah, not like SST is that played much that I have seen.
Ah, paperclips reshaped can be made into anything!
I see you smoothed the foil to make the face molds, inventive!
"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
2016/11/04 23:46:09
Subject: Mostly Scratch Built Stuff on the Cheap - 40K Genestealer Cult at the moment
It's not like I was going to use them for Star Ship Troopers, with it being our of production and hard to get models for.
of course, that's really sturdy...maybe tomato creme too? In tubes?