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Sorry, I cannot provide one, however lists are appearing from some and others are quoting rules direct from the Codex. Should anyone have as copy through prerelease,  Games Day or whatever, can you please do a review for us. Thankyou.

Question mark added to the title.
-Drake Marcus

put a question mark to the heading please, so the ones in the same situation with you don't have to open this in high expectations

There are a few posters at Warseer who have the dex atleast.

Why even make the thread?

You should of made it asking for one.

I have it and so can answer any questions people might have.

The things that scream DON'T TAKE ME:
Possessed
Demon Weapons
Dreads with Ranged Weapons
Bezerkers
Lesser Demons

Everything else is actually not that bad unit wise, though there are certain things that are much better than their other options:

Obliterators win Heavy Support no question, even with their limited Morphing Capabilities

Winged Demon Princes win HQ, hands down. And of that, Slaanesh ones with the Lash Of Submission is quite possibly the best thing you can take in the army. And you can take two per army. Go see the Tactics Forum for a reading on exactly how broken Lash of Submission is. I'm still trying to figure out if it was Gav or Allessio who wrote the rule. Allessio has written some broken rules before, but Gav has been known for some real choice ones. Maybe they put a team effort in on that one.

1kSons and Noise Marines win the Troops Contest with Nurgle coming up close behind. Noise Marines and 1kSons have the mobility and firepower to be very useful from Turn 1 on, although they are very expensive.

Raptors win Fast Attack now with their new cost. Bikes are about the same, with Nurgle bikes being super sick but expensive. But without good demons to deliver bikers suffer from the fact that while decent, they're powerfist food.

Chosen and Terminators are really sweet units that if you're not playing in a cut-throat environment, they look like they can be a LOT of fun and rewarding, though if you're going to face off against things like Nidzilla, you won't have the points after spending them on all the much more effective units.

EDIT:

Purchasable Vet Skills are gone from the codex.  Zerkers have Furious Charge and Chosen can infiltrate.  Thousands of screams are heard across the eye of terror as Havok Marines have their Autocannons ripped from their arms. 

Oh and the Defiler lost indirect, got fleet, and can get more attacks in CC.

Vindicator is in, basalisks are out. 

Other than that, I'm not remembering much else.

What of Havocs? Has something changed to make them no longer worthwhile, or is it your belief that they never were?

Posted By Spacegoat on 08/06/2007 11:02 AM
I have it and so can answer any questions people might have.

Prove it by taking a digital photo of it in your house. THEN we'll ask questions.

tank hunting autocannons are gone, that is what he meant.

Ah, thanks. That edit was not there when I posted.

My Falcon crews rejoice.

just one question about the havocs:

can they take a "mark" (or standard) ? just because I have two havoc units of EC with sonic veapons... do I have to completely redo all my army ?!

There are no havoks with sonic weapons. While you can buy an "icon" for your havoks to devote them to Slaanesh, they don't become noise marines, and don't have access to sonic weapons.

Posted By Magos_Dooloo on 08/06/2007 12:15 PM
just one question about the havocs:

can they take a "mark" (or standard) ? just because I have two havoc units of EC with sonic veapons... do I have to completely redo all my army ?!

You can give them an icon which marks them, but all that does is confer +1I

Noise marines can all replace their bolters with sonic blasters for 5pts each, and you can take one blast master, but that's it.

Sorry dude =\

Obliterators have gone up 5 points, are now S/T 4, and can only use energy weapons. Considering their cost and vulnerability to instakill, I think Havocs are strong competition for the heavy choice.

Posted By migsula on 08/06/2007 10:39 AM
put a question mark to the heading please, so the ones in the same situation with you don't have to open this in high expectations

There are a few posters at Warseer who have the dex atleast.

The idea is that someone will hopefully add a review in the thread. 

Don't get disapponted with me though, save it for those with the new Codex who can't be bothered to share it with us.

Lots of 'I have the Codex too' comments on various threads so I am suprised noone has done a review to tell us what is in it, except for Voodoo Boy'z reply, which only went as far as what to take and what sucks rather than a complete lineout.

I remember when I got hold of the Ogre Kingdom army book a month prerelease (how I wont say) and wrote an in depth review on each and every unit and option. If I had CSM Codex or any other in advance I would share it with you guys, just wishing others would do same.

Posted By Vero on 08/06/2007 10:47 AM
Why even make the thread?

You should of made it asking for one.

When, hint hint, someone posts the review here, hint hint, the title will be appropriate.

Posted By Orlanth on 08/06/2007 1:32 PM

 If I had CSM Codex or any other in advance I would share it with you guys, just wishing others would do same.

Do you want it? I'm more than happy to answer people's specific questions but Gods know I'm too lazy to write up a full in depth review of the book.

Hit me up.

Posted By davidson on 08/06/2007 1:45 PM
Just go download the leaked version.

Reviews are legal, its not againast copyright to review a book or game, and you dkont need permission to do so. Asking for links to leaked .pdfs could get Dakka into trouble.

Well, my big question: What rules apply to night Lords armies? Any limits or benefits?

There are none. Legions don't exist anymore in terms of rulesets. Outside generic marks for your units you have the four branches cult marines, which are troops now so you can mix and match as much as you want.

Daemons have one statline and points cost, as do greater daemons. They cannot be affected by marks, so until the new book things are going to be rather bland on that front.

I'd say that the new book is geared towards Chaos Undivided, but they've changed that, too. It's Chaos Glory now...

Can anyone tell me why they continue to call this very bland and dry sounding army "Chaos"?

What happened to customization?

Speaking of customization, Daemon Princes can buy the following:

- a mark
- one psychic power (two for Tzeentch)
- wings.

They come armed with a single close combat weapon.

The End.

Posted By PenguinDude on 08/06/2007 2:46 PM

What happened to customization?

Read: Codex Eldar, DA and BA.

No customization is the new customization.

I don't know why people think princes can take demon weapons, they can't.

Posted By Antonin on 08/06/2007 2:13 PM
Well, my big question: What rules apply to night Lords armies? Any limits or benefits?

Night Lords are now nothing but a paint job. Expect to see that happen to all variant lists.

BYE

Posted By PenguinDude on 08/06/2007 2:46 PM
Can anyone tell me why they continue to call this very bland and dry sounding army "Chaos"?

What happened to customization?

Oddly enough, we had the opposite discussion in 2002.  And even in 2002 it was fairly clear to me that 40k couldn't sustain the levels of customization and cater to a tourney/powergaming crowd.  It seems the tourney crew won the main game, and the "fun game" guys get Apocalypse.  Most of the tourney lists looked the same anyway.

Posted By Spacegoat on 08/06/2007 12:27 PM

Posted By Magos_Dooloo on 08/06/2007 12:15 PM
just one question about the havocs:

can they take a "mark" (or standard) ? just because I have two havoc units of EC with sonic veapons... do I have to completely redo all my army ?!

You can give them an icon which marks them, but all that does is confer +1I

Noise marines can all replace their bolters with sonic blasters for 5pts each, and you can take one blast master, but that's it.

Sorry dude =\

OK and if I understand each "rumour", Doom Sirens are only for champions ?? good... I already know that I've to re-write an EC Codex, but it was only for sure...

My Brother play DG. No Nurglings any more ? WTF ? (death guard on bikes.... fluffy isn't it ?)

OK, we now all know what to do them: don't even do a new army, just because 4-5 years after, U have just have to left half of your minis...

I don't really understand GW... great Minis, just really bad Dex... IMO

is that just really stinks for cults armys, or all the "chaos glory" sucks ? I just think that for "basic" chaos SM it will be very good, so your opinion on that ??

ftl

Holy crap.

2d6 move away is disastrous to an assault army. Why do i even try to run across the field anymore?

Can you have two of those in a list?

Oblits are even more expensive? And more limited? I thought they were overpriced in the old codex.

Three charging Defilers sounds a lot of fun

Defilers are only str 6 now.

Woops my bad, I wonder why the stat line doesn't  show str 6(10)