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Yay! more IG goodnees - hopefully not a woefully sub-par repackage...

Honestly, I can see myself buying up a few russes before the new ones come out, *just in case*

thank god the eldar range is being updated - it's about time!

Vlad

I have a Russ that needs a stripping for my new guard army. I have been waiting on it expecting a new russ kit. I kind of hope they use the new turret design.

Another tidbit from Warseer (11th February) that now makes sense:

axiom from Warseer wrote:I heard last week from an excellent internal source that the following new figures are currently at the moulding room at GW’s manufacturing facility at Lenton. The models are currently being scanned/digitally edited in preparation for tooling, have had / are having the moulds tooled, or first sprues have been produced:

• Eldar Night Spinner (first production sprues). Supposedly this is an add-on sprue to the Falcon kit with a turret similar to the FW kits.
• Re-cut Vyper (mould tooled). Don’t know if the pilot or gunner have been resculpted.
• Dark Eldar Ravager (digital editing). Weaponry very much of Eldar aesthetic, a few spikes and what appears to be a sail similar in fashion to a multi-strutted, slightly spiky Eldar BFG wraithship feel.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244500

Kroothawk wrote:Another tidbit from Warseer (11th February) that now makes sense:

axiom from Warseer wrote:I heard last week from an excellent internal source that the following new figures are currently at the moulding room at GW’s manufacturing facility at Lenton. The models are currently being scanned/digitally edited in preparation for tooling, have had / are having the moulds tooled, or first sprues have been produced:

• Eldar Night Spinner (first production sprues). Supposedly this is an add-on sprue to the Falcon kit with a turret similar to the FW kits.
• Re-cut Vyper (mould tooled). Don’t know if the pilot or gunner have been resculpted.
• Dark Eldar Ravager (digital editing). Weaponry very much of Eldar aesthetic, a few spikes and what appears to be a sail similar in fashion to a multi-strutted, slightly spiky Eldar BFG wraithship feel.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244500

That sounds plausible to me, actually. Just making a new sprue for the Night Spinner isn't a whole lot to do. I predicted a re-cut Vyper, since the model is so old, and a new Dark Eldar vehicle would be throwing a nice bone to the unsupported Dark Eldar. Also this means that if they redo one of their kits now, they won't have to when they redo the codex. In other words, more room for new releases when that actually happens. All this, a new Leman Russ and IG artillery kit, and that's one hell of a release. I'd predict the Night Spinner sprue to be direct-only like the Deffrolla.

Older than the jet bike? :\ Not sure I see the sense in recutting the vyper and keeping the ancient jet bike kit around that much longer...

And if they seriously are redoing Dark Eldar stuff then why only one thing, won't they want to replace the entire line at once? I really hope they don't just trickle out releases one at a time like that...

I kind of hope they use the new turret design.

I think it's kind of sad that we've come to the point where noone even dares to hope GW makes a new Leman Russ. Instead we're going to get another 'new Chimera' type release with a new tank commander and/or some other minor detail change to the turrent design which normal people won't even notice. As far as the other rumoured releases are concerned, seems like this isn't a 'new tank' release at all, it's a 'new turret' release. New Leman Russ turret, new Chimera turrets to make Manticores and Hydras and Death Rockets, new Eldar Falcon turrets to make Night Spinners and Fire Prisms, etc. It's just sad. The Leman Russ is so incredibly ugly that it's simply nauseating and the same also applies to the Chimera. The Eldar Falcon chassis is nice of course but it's still decades old and therefore out-dated and it could easily be stylised so that the new modern Falcons and Wave Serpent tanks would look more like the FW Cobras and Nightwings.

Why would we want a new leman russ? The current kit has aged well and fits in with the rugged practical feel of the guard. All it seems that most people want are the other weapons and sponson options.

Like I described in my previous post I don't think it's aged well as I think it's outright horrible nor do I think that it fits with any modern models. Plastic cadians, metal kasrkin, the command squad models etc are all of a higher standard than the tanks and deserve much better.

I love the way LRBT's and Chimeras look.

Think they did need an update.

Ooh new Ravager . . . If they do both Raider and Ravager out at the same time that would definitely make a lot more sense . . . maybe a kit for both?

Oshova

Oshova wrote:Ooh new Ravager . . . If they do both Raider and Ravager out at the same time that would definitely make a lot more sense . . . maybe a kit for both?

Oshova

I'd think the Ravager set would simply contain an extra sprue with just the Ravager parts(think like the Immolator kit), so I'd think that's more than a possibility.

Lorne wrote:Why would we want a new leman russ? The current kit has aged well and fits in with the rugged practical feel of the guard. All it seems that most people want are the other weapons and sponson options.

We didn't need the new Basilisk either. The Leman Russ is the last tank still using the old treads. Releasing a new kit, even half-assedly, allows GW to retire a couple sprues from production.

Yes the Chimera/Basilisk re-do was a let down. But only because people thought they were new sculpts, not just re-jigged sprues. The new sprues are better, in that they contain all the upgrades you can have. But worse, because they cost less to produce, but are still the same price IIRC

Oshova

Or more, like the Basilisk.

Oshova wrote:Yes the Chimera/Basilisk re-do was a let down. But only because people thought they were new sculpts, not just re-jigged sprues. The new sprues are better, in that they contain all the upgrades you can have. But worse, because they cost less to produce, but are still the same price IIRC

Oshova

In CDN ( canadian currency ) it actually gone up i think... 8% in price :'/
I was sort of disappointed , but no so much because i like Leman Russ more xD

Therion wrote:Like I described in my previous post I don't think it's aged well as I think it's outright horrible nor do I think that it fits with any modern models. Plastic cadians, metal kasrkin, the command squad models etc are all of a higher standard than the tanks and deserve much better.

+ 100 posts. When I look to a LR I cant avoid thinking Ork due to the unmilitary lines of the tank when compared to the rest of the IG especially now that we have Vendettas.

M.

Gargskull wrote:

Anung Un Rama wrote:I don't think they'll release an Eldar superheavy without making a new Codex first.

Apocalypse kits don't require a new codex.

The Eldar superheavy rumours are quite consistent and frequent, GW have been doing an apocalypse release once a year since it's launch too.

No, but Eldar need some sort of sales boost to justify the production of a Superheavy.

Platuan4th wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:That actually got released? I remember that they were working and planning on it, but I never heard of anything else about it. Was supposed to be called "Battlezone: Zeropoint" or something like that. They kept being excited about it and wanting to do it at the two Games Days following the Eye of Terror event--and then just stopped talking about it.

It wasn't called Battlezone anything when released, though. It was released more as a BFG release, and features a small vignette on the cover of some Bridge Officers(and I think a Marine) discussing a chart by a huge window with BFG ships in space.

The release White Dwarf had Black Templar vs Word Bearer mini-batrep followed by a BFG mini-batrep that used the rules of how one battle affects another for linking the two systems.

Edit: Remembered the name, it was Battlefleet Gothic: Invasion.

Sounds cool. I want that. And a Gothic fleet, while we're at it.

axiom from Warseer wrote:• Eldar Night Spinner (first production sprues). Supposedly this is an add-on sprue to the Falcon kit with a turret similar to the FW kits.
• Re-cut Vyper (mould tooled). Don’t know if the pilot or gunner have been resculpted.
• Dark Eldar Ravager (digital editing). Weaponry very much of Eldar aesthetic, a few spikes and what appears to be a sail similar in fashion to a multi-strutted, slightly spiky Eldar BFG wraithship feel.

Interesting. A new regular tank for Eldar would suggest that the new Codex is already underway.
If the Ravager is finished, wouldn't that mean that Dark Eldar as a whoe are pretty far by now?

If they realease a ravanger I hope they do not use its sale as a guide to how well they will sell. Just a new unit with no new codex is not going to generate much excitement. Well some but not a lot.

So from what I've gathered thus far the June releases are all IG and Eldar, with the majority being for Eldar. Pretty interesting turn of events there. If there's really nothing coming out for marines I'll be amazed.

This is what I think is coming based on all the rumours/hints I've seen around.

IG:
New Leman Russ with 3 or maybe 4 cannon options
Manticore/Deathstrike combo kit, no Hydra as it is not the same design as Forgeworld's one

Eldar:
Falcon/Fire Prism combo kit
Nightspinner, maybe part of the falcon but I doubt it, those are pretty big guns. Not seen any talk of variants or different builds for it but I wouldn't be surprised.
Heavy weapons platform kit

That's all the stuff that seems pretty solid, anyone know if there are any other surprises?

The new Russ kit should have all the options not currently included in the Demolisher box.

Surely, though any Manticore kit would make more sense to be made as a Hydra? Both have a quad weapon mount on the back of a Chimera chassis. The Deathstrike (quite apart from being a very silly concept that would have been better in apocalypse only) will need a completely different mount and quite a lot of large components.

The Nightspinner is an easy fix as the falcon already has a weapon mount either side of the turret - a pair of appropriate spinners and done.

The one that seems odd is the Eldar heavy weapons as that would be the only non-vehicle release.

Gargskull wrote:So from what I've gathered thus far the June releases are all IG and Eldar, with the majority being for Eldar. Pretty interesting turn of events there. If there's really nothing coming out for marines I'll be amazed.

For the plastic kits, it seems so yeah, haven't seen anything regarding other armies. Perhaps there will be some metal models though.

Chimera_Calvin wrote:The new Russ kit should have all the options not currently included in the Demolisher box.

The Leman Russ will indeed have the missing variants.

Chimera_Calvin wrote:Surely, though any Manticore kit would make more sense to be made as a Hydra? Both have a quad weapon mount on the back of a Chimera chassis. The Deathstrike (quite apart from being a very silly concept that would have been better in apocalypse only) will need a completely different mount and quite a lot of large components.

People in the know are hinting that the mounting of the Manticore won't be as in the codex art. I guess they'll be more like their old epic model, with all the missiles mounted side by side. That way a Deathstrike missile swap won't be as hard. I agree it's a pity though, would have rather had a Manticore/Hydra box with the codex art.

Gargskull wrote:Eldar:
Falcon/Fire Prism combo kit
Nightspinner, maybe part of the falcon but I doubt it, those are pretty big guns. Not seen any talk of variants or different builds for it but I wouldn't be surprised.
Heavy weapons platform kit

That seems to be the Eldar stuff, aye. Someone who has seen the Fire Prism describes it as:

'All i'll say is that the crystal and its attached assembly is much more in keeping with the new Eldar aesthetic which seems to have been pionered by the mk2 forgeworld super heavy variants. It's much, sleaker than the current prism..'

There's also some unconfirmed rumours that the Fire Prism crystal could be cast in transparant plastic.

Redemption wrote:There's also some unconfirmed rumours that the Fire Prism crystal could be cast in transparant plastic.

Urgh! Really? Because that green plastic Necron stuff works so well...

Redemption wrote:

People in the know are hinting that the mounting of the Manticore won't be as in the codex art. I guess they'll be more like their old epic model, with all the missiles mounted side by side.

This makes me a very sad panda

I wonder when we'll get confirmation on this? If there's no Hydra and only a poor-mans Manticore I'll not bother waiting and go to forgeworld instead.

A clear plastic prisim that you could paint the inside of could work very well. I have always loved painting the backs of clear parts as it ends up looking great.

Flashman wrote:

Redemption wrote:There's also some unconfirmed rumours that the Fire Prism crystal could be cast in transparant plastic.

Urgh! Really? Because that green plastic Necron stuff works so well...

I don't see it as a bad idea. If you don't like the stuff, just spray it over and paint it as usual. And for the ones that do like it, they can keep it, or even combine it with some nice LED and transparent paint effects. There's no drawback is there?

Redemption wrote:

Flashman wrote:

Redemption wrote:There's also some unconfirmed rumours that the Fire Prism crystal could be cast in transparant plastic.

Urgh! Really? Because that green plastic Necron stuff works so well...

I don't see it as a bad idea. If you don't like the stuff, just spray it over and paint it as usual. And for the ones that do like it, they can keep it, or even combine it with some nice LED and transparent paint effects. There's no drawback is there?

Or you could use special plastic glue made for transparent parts. I use it for my Valkyrie cockpits.

Cement for clear parts: http://www.testors.com/product/136633/3515C/_/Clear_Parts_Cement___1_Oz.

Redemption wrote:

Gargskull wrote:So from what I've gathered thus far the June releases are all IG and Eldar, with the majority being for Eldar. Pretty interesting turn of events there. If there's really nothing coming out for marines I'll be amazed.

For the plastic kits, it seems so yeah, haven't seen anything regarding other armies. Perhaps there will be some metal models though.

Chimera_Calvin wrote:The new Russ kit should have all the options not currently included in the Demolisher box.

The Leman Russ will indeed have the missing variants.

Chimera_Calvin wrote:Surely, though any Manticore kit would make more sense to be made as a Hydra? Both have a quad weapon mount on the back of a Chimera chassis. The Deathstrike (quite apart from being a very silly concept that would have been better in apocalypse only) will need a completely different mount and quite a lot of large components.

People in the know are hinting that the mounting of the Manticore won't be as in the codex art. I guess they'll be more like their old epic model, with all the missiles mounted side by side. That way a Deathstrike missile swap won't be as hard. I agree it's a pity though, would have rather had a Manticore/Hydra box with the codex art.

http://www.ifelix.net/gamingblog/wp-content/032_29.jpg

Gargskull wrote:Eldar:
Falcon/Fire Prism combo kit
Nightspinner, maybe part of the falcon but I doubt it, those are pretty big guns. Not seen any talk of variants or different builds for it but I wouldn't be surprised.
Heavy weapons platform kit

That seems to be the Eldar stuff, aye. Someone who has seen the Fire Prism describes it as:

'All i'll say is that the crystal and its attached assembly is much more in keeping with the new Eldar aesthetic which seems to have been pionered by the mk2 forgeworld super heavy variants. It's much, sleaker than the current prism..'

There's also some unconfirmed rumours that the Fire Prism crystal could be cast in transparant plastic.

Nice and comprehensive.

Eldar stuff sounds great, bodes well for their future. Always liked the look of their stuff.

SO disappointed that there's STILL no word on a Griffon/Colossus. Until that set come sout, I'm not budging on my IG army.