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Lets try him for witchcraft too, while we're at it! I'm sure he weighs the same as a duck!


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Seriously Frazzled, you are exactly the kind of person that I am was talking about. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I am saying that you cannot know, and I am using the word 'know' for a reason. You suspect it, I suspect it, but as long as we do not know, even telling us about his crime as if it were a fact is, at least in my country, actually a crime (defamation). It isn't usually prosecuted much, since everybody does it all the fething time, but it is a crime.

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And you know what's funny? "feth" is actually censored on a forum about a dystopia where the nice guys are the ones who kill only millions of innocents, not billions. 
   
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Skylifter wrote:Seriously Frazzled, you are exactly the kind of person that I am was talking about. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I am saying that you cannot know, and I am using the word 'know' for a reason. You suspect it, I suspect it, but as long as we do not know, even telling us about his crime as if it were a fact is, at least in my country, actually a crime (defamation). It isn't usually prosecuted much, since everybody does it all the fething time, but it is a crime.


As the Nazis said to Schindler "I guess we shall have to risk regret." In the court of public opinion I am not burdened by your country's laws.

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Uh gak, which rule was that again? I think it was one of the first internet rules ever. My country's history has nothing to do with the matter at hand: you want to prosecute someone without trial because you think you know he was guilty, which is something that is forbidden by the laws of both our countries, and for a reason.

Thus, while the guy in question is probably a rapist, but must be considered innocent until proven guilty, you definitely are at odds with human rights. And therefore, I detest you.

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And you know what's funny? "feth" is actually censored on a forum about a dystopia where the nice guys are the ones who kill only millions of innocents, not billions. 
   
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I'll give that post all deliberate consideration when I am away from work.

EDIT: Wait, I haven't used this in a while. Its appropriate:

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Frazzled wrote:He banged an underage chick. there's no other reason for him to talk to underage chick. Lets get ing real here. Its not like they could hold a conversation about anything but ing.


Wait... a teacher and a student (who may well have been friends with his daughter at one point) have nothing to talk about other than sex? Not school, not the daughter, just sex?

Really? You mean all my high school teachers ever talked to me about was sex? When did this happen, I certainly don't remember it!


EDIT: Ah, I missed the part about the thousands of text messages.

Well, theoretically it is possible that they are telling the truth. Maybe they did wait until she was 18. Until someone can prove otherwise, all we can say is that he's a douche for leaving his wife and kids, and a jerk for taking up with a student.

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Frazzled wrote:He banged an underage chick. there's no other reason for him to talk to underage chick. Lets get ing real here. Its not like they could hold a conversation about anything but ing.

No, there is no definitive proof that he had sex with her before she was legal, don't jump the gun Frazzled.

What do you mean there is no reason for him to talk to underage chick? Are you saying because he is a heterosexual teacher and she is a heterosexual student the only thing they are aloud to talk about is sex? What a load of Frazzled, what is she needed help on some, you know, school work? "Oh sorry, you gotta go see a female teacher because I can only talk to you about sex". We need to get real? That's certainly the pot calling the kettle black if I ever saw it.

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Krellnus wrote:
Frazzled wrote:He banged an underage chick. there's no other reason for him to talk to underage chick. Lets get ing real here. Its not like they could hold a conversation about anything but ing.

No, there is no definitive proof that he had sex with her before she was legal, don't jump the gun Frazzled.

What do you mean there is no reason for him to talk to underage chick? Are you saying because he is a heterosexual teacher and she is a heterosexual student the only thing they are aloud to talk about is sex? What a load of Frazzled, what is she needed help on some, you know, school work? "Oh sorry, you gotta go see a female teacher because I can only talk to you about sex". We need to get real? That's certainly the pot calling the kettle black if I ever saw it.

You missed the thousands of text messages, many before she was 18. Seriously, reading some teenager babble for thousands of texts would make me shove a rusty spoon in my eyes, or more hopeful, unlock the Seventh seal and finally release Dachshundskrieg upon the world.

40 year old men don't have thousands of texts with an underage girl unless something is on their mind...

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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That girl is pretty cute.

Maybe I should be a teacher instead of joining the navy...


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Frazzled wrote:40 year old men don't have thousands of texts with an underage girl unless something is on their mind...


He might have had something on his mind, but that doesn't mean they acted on it. It seems more than likely that they did, but until it is proven one way or the other the guy is just a douche.

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I find it amazing that so many people just wave their hand at how he ditched his family and say they're better off. He took up commitments. He decided to get married and have children, and now he's foregoing those in favor of this "fling."

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Surtur wrote:I find it amazing that so many people just wave their hand at how he ditched his family and say they're better off. He took up commitments. He decided to get married and have children, and now he's foregoing those in favor of this "fling."

Exactly. He's the antiFrazzled. He probably likes cats and squirrels and believes in the inherent goodness oif humanity.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Frazzled wrote:
Skylifter wrote:Seriously Frazzled, you are exactly the kind of person that I am was talking about. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I am saying that you cannot know, and I am using the word 'know' for a reason. You suspect it, I suspect it, but as long as we do not know, even telling us about his crime as if it were a fact is, at least in my country, actually a crime (defamation). It isn't usually prosecuted much, since everybody does it all the fething time, but it is a crime.


As the Nazis said to Schindler "I guess we shall have to risk regret." In the court of public opinion I am not burdened by your country's laws.


Wait, did you really just bring up Nazi's in an attempt to undermine a German poster's arguement? You say a lot of crazy stuff Frazz, but this is simply offensive.

sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.

But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
 
   
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Hazardous Harry wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Skylifter wrote:Seriously Frazzled, you are exactly the kind of person that I am was talking about. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I am saying that you cannot know, and I am using the word 'know' for a reason. You suspect it, I suspect it, but as long as we do not know, even telling us about his crime as if it were a fact is, at least in my country, actually a crime (defamation). It isn't usually prosecuted much, since everybody does it all the fething time, but it is a crime.


As the Nazis said to Schindler "I guess we shall have to risk regret." In the court of public opinion I am not burdened by your country's laws.


Wait, did you really just bring up Nazi's in an attempt to undermine a German poster's arguement? You say a lot of crazy stuff Frazz, but this is simply offensive.


I don't think that was his intention with that comment, somehow.

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Honestly it's hard to interpret what Frazzled is actually saying with most of his comments. I'll just wait for him to explain what exactly he was on about.

sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.

But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
 
   
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I think what he was trying to say was that'd he'd be all for shooting the guy for rape without a trial because he'd rather see him dead but innocent than have him alive if he did commit the crime.

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Hazardous Harry wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Skylifter wrote:Seriously Frazzled, you are exactly the kind of person that I am was talking about. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I am saying that you cannot know, and I am using the word 'know' for a reason. You suspect it, I suspect it, but as long as we do not know, even telling us about his crime as if it were a fact is, at least in my country, actually a crime (defamation). It isn't usually prosecuted much, since everybody does it all the fething time, but it is a crime.


As the Nazis said to Schindler "I guess we shall have to risk regret." In the court of public opinion I am not burdened by your country's laws.


Wait, did you really just bring up Nazi's in an attempt to undermine a German poster's arguement? You say a lot of crazy stuff Frazz, but this is simply offensive.

Nope, just referencing one of my favorite quotes (its actually opposite, I would be calling myself the Nazi as they were the ones who used the line). The bad German accent is what makes the line so choice. It actually sounds like "Ve vill hav to wisk, regetttt."

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Castiel wrote:
Hazardous Harry wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Skylifter wrote:Seriously Frazzled, you are exactly the kind of person that I am was talking about. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I am saying that you cannot know, and I am using the word 'know' for a reason. You suspect it, I suspect it, but as long as we do not know, even telling us about his crime as if it were a fact is, at least in my country, actually a crime (defamation). It isn't usually prosecuted much, since everybody does it all the fething time, but it is a crime.


As the Nazis said to Schindler "I guess we shall have to risk regret." In the court of public opinion I am not burdened by your country's laws.


Wait, did you really just bring up Nazi's in an attempt to undermine a German poster's arguement? You say a lot of crazy stuff Frazz, but this is simply offensive.


I don't think that was his intention with that comment, somehow.

Really? That would seem perefectly in-character, to be honest. The guy's a blatant chauvinist.

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Castiel wrote:
Hazardous Harry wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Skylifter wrote:Seriously Frazzled, you are exactly the kind of person that I am was talking about. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I am saying that you cannot know, and I am using the word 'know' for a reason. You suspect it, I suspect it, but as long as we do not know, even telling us about his crime as if it were a fact is, at least in my country, actually a crime (defamation). It isn't usually prosecuted much, since everybody does it all the fething time, but it is a crime.


As the Nazis said to Schindler "I guess we shall have to risk regret." In the court of public opinion I am not burdened by your country's laws.


Wait, did you really just bring up Nazi's in an attempt to undermine a German poster's arguement? You say a lot of crazy stuff Frazz, but this is simply offensive.


I don't think that was his intention with that comment, somehow.


Nope, on the other hand the poster did accuse me of criminal activity.


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Hazardous Harry wrote:Honestly it's hard to interpret what Frazzled is actually saying with most of his comments. I'll just wait for him to explain what exactly he was on about.


You're assuming Frazzled knows what he's actually on about....


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Albatross wrote:
Castiel wrote:
Hazardous Harry wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Skylifter wrote:Seriously Frazzled, you are exactly the kind of person that I am was talking about. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I am saying that you cannot know, and I am using the word 'know' for a reason. You suspect it, I suspect it, but as long as we do not know, even telling us about his crime as if it were a fact is, at least in my country, actually a crime (defamation). It isn't usually prosecuted much, since everybody does it all the fething time, but it is a crime.


As the Nazis said to Schindler "I guess we shall have to risk regret." In the court of public opinion I am not burdened by your country's laws.


Wait, did you really just bring up Nazi's in an attempt to undermine a German poster's arguement? You say a lot of crazy stuff Frazz, but this is simply offensive.


I don't think that was his intention with that comment, somehow.

Really? That would seem perefectly in-character, to be honest. The guy's a blatant chauvinist.

Wienerdogist actually. I'm very supportive of women's rights. After all I am trianing Genghis Connie to rule the world with a smile and an iron fist. You will love her and despair!

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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I'm entirely confused by this conversation now, who is being serious, and who actually knows what we are talking about?

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WTF. is going on here?


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Johnny-Crass wrote:I leave this thread for two days....


Its like the crazies took over the asylum, and I am their king Hail ME!

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Frazzled wrote:
Johnny-Crass wrote:I leave this thread for two days....


Its like the crazies took over the asylum, and I am their king Hail ME!


Do I get to be Batman in this scenario?

 
   
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Johnny-Crass wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Johnny-Crass wrote:I leave this thread for two days....


Its like the crazies took over the asylum, and I am their king Hail ME!


Do I get to be Batman in this scenario?


Nope, For I AM THE BATMAN!!!

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Frazzled wrote:
Nope, just referencing one of my favorite quotes (its actually opposite, I would be calling myself the Nazi as they were the ones who used the line). The bad German accent is what makes the line so choice. It actually sounds like "Ve vill hav to wisk, regetttt."


Frazzled wrote:
You're assuming Frazzled knows what he's actually on about....


Frazzled wrote:Wienerdogist actually. I'm very supportive of women's rights. After all I am trianing Genghis Connie to rule the world with a smile and an iron fist. You will love her and despair!


Frazzled wrote:
Its like the crazies took over the asylum, and I am their king Hail ME!




This thread is now officially Off-Topic.

sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.

But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
 
   
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Castiel wrote:I think what he was trying to say was that'd he'd be all for shooting the guy for rape without a trial because he'd rather see him dead but innocent than have him alive if he did commit the crime.


I'll translate for you.

He's not going to shoot anyone. In the spirit of hyperbole, he is expressing that the teacher is a scumbag, has hurt people, taken advantage of a young girl, and is the kind of person who deserves to be hurt. As Fraz is a Texan, his hyperbole often defaults to mentions of gunplay. That or weiner dogs, but I don't think that's a standard Texas thing.

We are not subject to the rules of "innocent until proven guilty", because we're not a court, and don't have the power to actually imprison or punish the guy. That right is there to protect people from oppressive misuse of real punitive authority. Other judgements, and even other courts, aren't subject to the same strict standards. For example, in a civil case, the judgment is based on a preponderence of the evidence, rather than "beyond a reasonable doubt", as in criminal law.

In the informal court of public opinion, the standards are even less. Each of us can and does judge other people and situations without exhaustive evidence. Many of us take a principled position about not judging other people, or at least not harshly, but if you see a person abuse his wife or smack his kid in the face, you probably don't hesitate to judge him a bad guy.

In the case of this guy, the overwhelming evidence is that he's not a good person. If you know any high school girls, and any 40 year old guys, you know just how little they have in common and how little grounds they are likely to have for a relationship; certainly not one of peers and equals. You can say they may have done nothing wrong, and maybe the girl is really precocious, mature and intelligent. But we all know the odds are small.

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Mannahnin wrote:
Castiel wrote:I think what he was trying to say was that'd he'd be all for shooting the guy for rape without a trial because he'd rather see him dead but innocent than have him alive if he did commit the crime.


I'll translate for you.

He's not going to shoot anyone. In the spirit of hyperbole, he is expressing that the teacher is a scumbag, has hurt people, taken advantage of a young girl, and is the kind of person who deserves to be hurt. As Fraz is a Texan, his hyperbole often defaults to mentions of gunplay. That or weiner dogs, but I don't think that's a standard Texas thing.

We are not subject to the rules of "innocent until proven guilty", because we're not a court, and don't have the power to actually imprison or punish the guy. That right is there to protect people from oppressive misuse of real punitive authority. Other judgements, and even other courts, aren't subject to the same strict standards. For example, in a civil case, the judgment is based on a preponderence of the evidence, rather than "beyond a reasonable doubt", as in criminal law.

In the informal court of public opinion, the standards are even less. Each of us can and does judge other people and situations without exhaustive evidence. Many of us take a principled position about not judging other people, or at least not harshly, but if you see a person abuse his wife or smack his kid in the face, you probably don't hesitate to judge him a bad guy.

In the case of this guy, the overwhelming evidence is that he's not a good person. If you know any high school girls, and any 40 year old guys, you know just how little they have in common and how little grounds they are likely to have for a relationship; certainly not one of peers and equals. You can say they may have done nothing wrong, and maybe the girl is really precocious, mature and intelligent. But we all know the odds are small.


I'll buy that for a dollar.

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