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2014/04/17 14:17:22
Subject: Re:GW 4th week of April releases: Tools (1st post with pic and Euro prices)
I bought the GW tool set a few years back. Here's me rating my experience with each on an A-F scale:
Files get a B. They're still functional but have significantly dulled.
Clippers: A-. They work well for plastic and resin but they actually are made of a metal that gets bent by frequent use on pewter. I found that out the hard way, working with metal models made them completely useless. But as far as resin and plastic goes, they're a dream. The grip is fantastic, the size is ideal, and they don't wear down as long as you stick to plastic and resin.
Sculpting tool: C . Served me well, but I've always found it was a bit too clumsy when I needed something bigger than a hobby knife to do things like place greenstuff and base bases with. In the end I found myself going back to the hobby knife.
Drill: D+. Significantly lacks capability to work with metal minis. Also most of the tools I have I'm enthusiastic about using because they effectively accomplish what they're designed to do (which is the purpose of a tool) but this drill can not hold on tightly to the drill pieces that I put in, which sometimes renders the drill useless.
Mold Line Scraping Tool: B+: Sturdy, nice grip, blade's got the right amount of sharpness as to not dull, so I'm expecting longevity out of it. It's sharp enough to remove most mold lines, but it's outclassed by files and the hobby knife. It's got one trade, and it's not the Ace at it. It's just a jack.
Hobby Knife: A+: Hobby knives in this context being the vehicle for X-acto blades, this to-be-former hobby knife is easily the best knife you could hope to find. the shape and material it's made with fit perfectly in your hand with enough grip for you to never have to worry about slipping but not enough friction for your skin to get irritated or anything the new one just looks like an obligatory redesign to make it a set. If I were you, I'd get the current knife before it's too late.
**BONUS RATING**
Citadel Emery Boards! D-. Overpriced sandpaper sticks, 2 of which work well, 1 of which is too *fine* to actually file anything. The wear out horrifyingly fast, too. Like just after a dozen infantry and they're dead. They're disposable tools priced as though they'll last you. Do not buy unless absolutely needed (and the only reason they're not getting an F is because yes, they are sometimes necessary for when regular files are too rough. But this is only for advanced hobbyists, nobody building to play should really worry themselves over this).
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2014/04/17 15:32:09
Subject: GW 4th week of April releases: Tools (1st post with pic and Euro prices)
TheKbob wrote: But guys, it's not aimed at us. It's aimed at the hobbyist who just wants to enjoy the hobby. You're not intended to go out and buy them all at once. Just piece meal them until you have a full collection...
Considering this will probably be a "one click bundle", I disagree
My Armies:
5,500pts 2,700pts 2,000pts
2014/04/17 16:43:18
Subject: Re:GW 4th week of April releases: Tools (1st post with pic and Euro prices)
Name 1 40k release from the main studio (since it's pretty easy when you say that and allow FW but that's a different group of blokes) that didn't make someone mad. I'll wait.
2014/04/17 19:05:31
Subject: Re:GW 4th week of April releases: Tools (1st post with pic and Euro prices)
Name 1 40k release from the main studio (since it's pretty easy when you say that and allow FW but that's a different group of blokes) that didn't make someone mad. I'll wait.
You've got your basic Cadians!
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2014/04/17 19:18:30
Subject: Re:GW 4th week of April releases: Tools (1st post with pic and Euro prices)
Name 1 40k release from the main studio (since it's pretty easy when you say that and allow FW but that's a different group of blokes) that didn't make someone mad. I'll wait.
You've got your basic Cadians!
That's not a major release though now is it? It was tied into a codex release and I would bet money (if I wasn't broke) that something made people mad at the time.
2014/04/17 19:24:56
Subject: GW 4th week of April releases: Tools (1st post with pic and Euro prices)
No release pleases everyone, obviously. There was complaining about IG, but it dissapated quickly after book in hand (those psykers n priests, brah!) where as the Tyranids are still up proverbial poop creek.
This release? You can't defend the cost of those tools. There's no "but I like the fluff!" or "it's just for beer and pretzels!" usual arguments. Those are just flat out overcosted name brand tools.
It's like anyone who buys Monster Brand Cables or Beats by Dr. Dre (which is, ironically, owned by Monster Cables). You're flat out doing it wrong.
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Shine on, Kaldor Dayglow!
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2014/04/17 19:38:01
Subject: GW 4th week of April releases: Tools (1st post with pic and Euro prices)
TheKbob wrote: No release pleases everyone, obviously. There was complaining about IG, but it dissapated quickly after book in hand (those psykers n priests, brah!) where as the Tyranids are still up proverbial poop creek.
I dunno, I'm still complaining about my poor Colossus and the special characters
It's like anyone who buys Monster Brand Cables or Beats by Dr. Dre (which is, ironically, owned by Monster Cables). You're flat out doing it wrong.
Not really "ironic".
2014/04/17 19:41:30
Subject: GW 4th week of April releases: Tools (1st post with pic and Euro prices)
I used to think these were special tools, until I saw my wife's scrapbooking kits.
Gentlemen, we are using scrapbooking tools for 28mm men.
All the way from Battlefoam bags (which my wife now uses to hold her sewing machine) to the emery boards we file with.
Women's tools for our manly hobby.
Therefore, I will not be buying these as the ones I get from hobby lobby fill the same role, at 1/3 the price.
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
2014/04/17 19:43:34
Subject: GW 4th week of April releases: Tools (1st post with pic and Euro prices)
TheKbob wrote: No release pleases everyone, obviously. There was complaining about IG, but it dissapated quickly after book in hand (those psykers n priests, brah!) where as the Tyranids are still up proverbial poop creek.
I dunno, I'm still complaining about my poor Colossus and the special characters
It's like anyone who buys Monster Brand Cables or Beats by Dr. Dre (which is, ironically, owned by Monster Cables). You're flat out doing it wrong.
Not really "ironic".
More... "ichronic?"
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notprop wrote: What's not manly about hanging out with lots of sweaty men in a dark room?
I can't imagine too many women that would be up for that.
I can introduce you to a couple if you'd like...
Anyway GW tools are expensive and you can get the same elsewhere - this belongs in news?
Three cheers for the status quo!
They are new tools, they are the very embodiment of "news."
That they are overpriced or likely not great quality very much isn't.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Quarterdime wrote: I bought the GW tool set a few years back. Here's me rating my experience with each on an A-F scale:
**BONUS RATING**
Citadel Emery Boards! D-. Overpriced sandpaper sticks, 2 of which work well, 1 of which is too *fine* to actually file anything. The wear out horrifyingly fast, too. Like just after a dozen infantry and they're dead. They're disposable tools priced as though they'll last you. Do not buy unless absolutely needed (and the only reason they're not getting an F is because yes, they are sometimes necessary for when regular files are too rough. But this is only for advanced hobbyists, nobody building to play should really worry themselves over this).
You cannot be serious. The emery boards should get a Z. Ask you girlfriend to buy you some small various coarseness boards next time she's shopping. They're the same thing she uses on her nails, and for what GW charges you'll get more than 10x the amount.
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Well, really it's just 7 pages of people taking the piss. And yes, I realise that this comment has now pushed the thread back to the top of the page, where it most certainly doesn't belong
Meanwhile, no threads on show reports/pics from Adepticon..
Name 1 40k release from the main studio (since it's pretty easy when you say that and allow FW but that's a different group of blokes) that didn't make someone mad. I'll wait.
Every ork release since the last codex? I don't remember anyone saying that the Dakkajet was anything short of a brilliant kit. There might have been a few who managed to have mixed feelings about the stompa or the battlewagon, but I honestly can't say I've seen any overall negative responses to ork releases since I got back into the hobby.
TheKbob wrote: But guys, it's not aimed at us. It's aimed at the hobbyist who just wants to enjoy the hobby. You're not intended to go out and buy them all at once. Just piece meal them until you have a full collection...
"Guys. They are targeted at rubes, not people on the know, so it's totally ok!"
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2014/04/18 11:06:14
Subject: Re:GW 4th week of April releases: Tools (1st post with pic and Euro prices)
Every ork release since the last codex? I don't remember anyone saying that the Dakkajet was anything short of a brilliant kit. There might have been a few who managed to have mixed feelings about the stompa or the battlewagon, but I honestly can't say I've seen any overall negative responses to ork releases since I got back into the hobby.
Orks are pretty difficult to mess up, considering they might be up to anything. However, after the last couple of releases, I'm sure GW will try to find a way - I'm not sure if I should be excited or afraid
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sing your life wrote: GW already has a very large range of tools. they are high-quality but cost to much
High quality? nahhhh! Just go to Maplins/B&Q/eBay etc etc and you'll find better, longer lasting, tools that you won't cost loads!
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2014/04/18 15:33:04
Subject: Re:GW 4th week of April releases: Tools (1st post with pic and Euro prices)
Name 1 40k release from the main studio (since it's pretty easy when you say that and allow FW but that's a different group of blokes) that didn't make someone mad. I'll wait.
Every ork release since the last codex? I don't remember anyone saying that the Dakkajet was anything short of a brilliant kit. There might have been a few who managed to have mixed feelings about the stompa or the battlewagon, but I honestly can't say I've seen any overall negative responses to ork releases since I got back into the hobby.
They loved the model but hated how hard it was to get the rules. I remember that.
2014/04/18 19:30:18
Subject: GW 4th week of April releases: Tools (1st post with pic and Euro prices)
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester 
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k 
