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Those are resins, right? I hope the PVC is easier to work with and not as much as a pain as warmachine's PVC mix.

Yeah, that's pretty extensive cutting of PVC (much harder to cut than resin, in my experience) to get those bases to work... which is why flatter ones like tech, planks, or old factory make the most sense, imo.

I agree. That's why I'm in for a set of scrap and lots of tech. Brilliant designs with lots of flat surface for gluing figures to.

 Breotan wrote:
Those are resins, right? I hope the PVC is easier to work with and not as much as a pain as warmachine's PVC mix.

I have yet to see any form of PVC that is easy to work with.

We can always hope, right?

 Piston Honda wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
Those are resins, right? I hope the PVC is easier to work with and not as much as a pain as warmachine's PVC mix.

I have yet to see any form of PVC that is easy to work with.

We can always hope, right?

Ha!

This is why I'd stick to the designs that have lots of nice flat spaces already there!

 Piston Honda wrote:
I have yet to see any form of PVC that is easy to work with.

What problems do you have with PVC, and what "types" of PVC are you referring to?

I'm only used to scraping mold lines on soft boardgame plastic (eg. Zombicide), and use an engraving pen.

Let me know how much trouble I'll be in if I pick up these bases for basing. (:

Thanks in advance!

ced1106 wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:
I have yet to see any form of PVC that is easy to work with.

What problems do you have with PVC, and what "types" of PVC are you referring to?

I'm only used to scraping mold lines on soft boardgame plastic (eg. Zombicide), and use an engraving pen.

Let me know how much trouble I'll be in if I pick up these bases for basing. (:

Thanks in advance!

Well, these are bases, if they are anything like the Sedition Wars bases it should be a non-issue.

But as far as PVC goes (sometimes refereed to as restic) Is painful. There are different "formulas" some are more bendy/softer than others. But mold lines are a pain to clean off of miniatures suck as relic knights and sedition wars. Been told the same issue exists with warmachine models but I've never prepped them so I can't speak for PP models.

they are tough to scrape, tend to cut into the model or cut your fingers, and it is a common problem when you think you've removed all mold lines, less evident ones show up when you prime the model. You can either leave it or scrape some more. Lose-lose.

I'll buy a board game that uses the material because I treat them as just board game pieces.

But when it comes to models, I'll be avoiding the material, me thinks. I bought some WOK models to see if this "new process" is what they say it is, or just more crap.

I'm glad Poots decided to go from PVC to HIPs, otherwise I would be putting up my pledge for sale.

I've long enough. In short I would not worry about PVC regarding bases. PVC has its places in my opinion. Board game pieces, bases and terrain. Possibly some bits on a model where they would just snap too.

Ced- I just meant, I find it harder to cut than resin or polystyrene, so the extensive surgery needed on the jungle bases would make me think flatter ones are a safer bet, until you see how easy these are to work with.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
Those are resins, right? I hope the PVC is easier to work with and not as much as a pain as warmachine's PVC mix.

I have yet to see any form of PVC that is easy to work with.

We can always hope, right?

Ha!

This is why I'd stick to the designs that have lots of nice flat spaces already there!

Speaking of which, why isn't their urban line in this? Would it sell too well?

I've no idea why the chose what they chose. Hopefully this is just a start and once post KS production begins they'll have enough sales to justify making more molds in new designs.

I believe the 4 the KS started with are their best selling MAS lines (not sure this is overall or just via CMON in the states),

subsequent stuff that we've been voting on has apparently just been a random pick from the lines

(presumably with the 'complete' range of the appropriate base sizes so MAS don't have to do any extra sculpting)

They've posted another update on their KS page. Essentially they're showing what the bases will look like in PVC beside what the actual resins look like now. Here are a few examples:

I'm not really sold on the whole pvc bases will look just as good as resin bases thing. To me with the majority of the pictures they showed in the update the resin bases look substantially better.

It could just be the colour/photography; I can't see any detail on the bases on the left. Which one is which?

Resin is yellow; pvc is grey.

I think saying the resin bases are substantially better is quite the substantial hyperbole. But that's just to my eye.

I honestly can't tell the diff.

I don't think I could tell the diff if primed, but the colours don't help here. Even an ink wash would show the detail.

I'm still more worried on the softness front, so hoping they'll become too cheap for me to turn down.

Edit: Just has a look at this on kicktraq and it seems to have fallen off a cliff - one day it made $18, and today it's lost money. I was expecting it to be beyond $100k now with a lot more freebies. Do you think they'll do anything with it or is this all we're going to get?

They said future goals mean new patterns not more bases. I think it is falling because there is competitions for bases on kick start and the cheapo people are doing that. This one has nicest looking bases though.

Do you mean the Basius basing system? That's completely different as it's a base mould.

To be fair, this may have the nicest looking bases but it's using the worst material and that might be putting people off.

I don't think Basius is competition, really- it happens to be a better fit for me as I already have bases with a raised lip that were custom made (by Wehrkind!) that I want to add texture / details to.

But if I didn't already have bases, I'd be buying these in a heartbeat, instead! I think the PVC will be fine, the bigger concern is some of the designs, but obviously people can just choose the more conservative ones if they're worried about that.

There is a lot of competition from Basius and Happy Sepuku which will be cheaper in the long terms,

(but possibly not as nice results depending on user skill and personal taste)

I've seen plenty of chat about which one of the 3 projects people are going to back on a variety of forums

They're also fighting against the 'mystery' shipping costs as the estimates provided for Arcadia Quest and Zombicide 3 have been massively out for some backers leading to much upset

so a subset of regular CMON backers are now probably not going to be pledging with them again

We've also seen people deciding to back out as they are not offering larger bases/GW style bases/square bases

and finally too much choice (and not enough of it available yet).. people have favourite MAS bases, they hope they get converted but until it does they won't pledge.

(I 'm in at the moment, but unless I see one of 2 or 3 base types appear I'll probably drop out, I can make decent approximations of many of the bases so I really one the ones like Jungle that I just can't do)

I'm on the fence right now too as I'm not quite sure what I'd use these bases, in these bases styles, for!

30mm, 40mm and 50mm round lipped bases - unless I'm mistaken, they don't actually fit in any game I'm currently playing!

Well they just unlocked 6 new sets to get things moving again

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coolminiornot/coolminiornot-base-system-featuring-micro-art-stud/posts/1003929



I have an EB but even with the addition of the new styles I'll be out if they don't add some more 50mm bases - 2 per set just isn't enough for my needs (and I was really hoping for Halodyne but that's very unlikely now :( )

Well I'm happy now and staying in

Backers! Mr. Black here, and we're in the middle of what is known as Campaign Lull... The time during the middle (but not quite the end) of a campaign when things just seem to die down, which usually leads to a loss of momentum...

... And it's something I truly hate.

Well, we here at CMoN have decided to really give you guys a big push in the last days here, basically as sort of a rally for anyone on the fence about joining us.

What is this push, you ask anxiously?

Let me show you:



SURPRISE! We're unlocking the Old Factory, Derelict, Arcane, Jungle, Desert, and Forest Base Designs for all our backers!

We really want this to be a big push for you guys as well as the campaign. We're moving ahead of schedule, but we figured what the heck, more options for our loyal backers

Of course, this will change the $65,000 stretch goal... But I'll reveal those options soon

So come on, get the word out there, backers now have over a DOZEN base options to choose from!













Remember backers, you can always add another $22 (Pick Your Base) or $20 (All The Bases) to pick up additional sets (and each set is a staggering 34 bases!)

Get the word out there backers and let's hit one out of the park!

-Mr. Black

I was thinking of starting Dark Age I guess...

Can someone list what game systems use the round lipped bases that this campaign is producing?

Warmachine
Dark Age

...?

 Alpharius wrote:
I was thinking of starting Dark Age I guess...

Can someone list what game systems use the round lipped bases that this campaign is producing?

Warmachine
Dark Age

...?

Malifaux, Brushfire, Relic Knights

Well, that's certainly a nice gesture! Tons of options to choose from now.

This update is pretty awesome. I think I'm going to change my pledge from Pick your Base to All the Bases. I'm using Arcane bases for one of my factions in Malifaux. It will be cool to have more as I was getting ready to order more and bigger bases from that range.

Just awesome.

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I was thinking of starting Dark Age I guess...

Can someone list what game systems use the round lipped bases that this campaign is producing?

Warmachine
Dark Age

...?

Malifaux, Brushfire, Relic Knights

Thanks for the list - I'm tempted to stay in on this one as I'm bound to pick up some of those games eventually...

 MightyGodzilla wrote:
This update is pretty awesome. I think I'm going to change my pledge from Pick your Base to All the Bases. I'm using Arcane bases for one of my factions in Malifaux. It will be cool to have more as I was getting ready to order more and bigger bases from that range.

Just awesome.

Lols self quote.

I went to update my pledge and upon rereading the All the Bases pledge is the first four introductory styles and not the styles past that. I had to stick with Pick your Bases pledge and add on to that as I wanted Mystic, Graveyard, Arcane, & Jungle. I thought rementioning how All the Bases worked was worth it, as I almost made a mistake. $88 vs $80, no big deal.

I think they noted/clarified that you can get any 4 styles even with the "All The Bases" pledge.