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2015/03/05 08:15:58
Subject: My Blue Table Painting Experience with Chaos Dwarves
fidel wrote: What I am wondering is - and someone can correct me if this is not legal. If lets say, hypothetically, I recorded the original videos that Tenebre had.... could I put them up under my own name, or would that null and void his agreement.
I would say not since speech freedoms come into affect. Also I do not know tenebre or am affected by this ruling. Not sure though what do you guys think.
Tenebre has a copyright to those vids. If you illegal copy / record them, and he finds out, he can C&D you to remove them or you risk him taking action to compel you to (legal action). His settlement probably compels him to do so. (conjecture, but likely).
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Grey Templar wrote: Technically, Tenebre would be able to force you to take them down. But he would be under no obligation to do so, and I doubt he'd have the inclination.
This probably is incorrect.
The settlement likely has clauses that he can't promulgate the vids, and he must take reasonable action to cease and desist anyone that does that either he discovers or BTP does and alerts him to as well. I wrote a lot on this earlier, i won't bother rehashing it. If you have interest, check out my posts over the past few pages.
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plastictrees wrote: While being blind must be a challenge it's probably unreasonable to form an opinion on the quality of painted models if you're unable to see them.
I was kidding. See my earlier posts in the thread for context.
Haha, yes I was lazy and rolled the dice on you being a lunatic and didn't dig into it anymore.
You do realize that his being a lunatic does not mean that he wasn't joking, yes?
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
2015/03/18 17:24:25
Subject: Re:My Blue Table Painting Experience with Chaos Dwarves
so I gave in here just because the youtube video of his demise is still saved on my desktop and I wondered today, if anything has changed in this case.
Happy for tenebre he reached some concensus.
For some reason I knew from the very first post that it would either go this way or dakka would be legally forced to take down the entire post.
Anyhow, nothing that BTP could have done now, other than what they did. They will have to live with the fallout, which is their fault.
Also they cannot simply act like nice guys NOW, the damage is done, and if they would disclose how much they reimbursed to their client it would open a whole bag of other issues with unhappy clients.
2015/03/18 17:34:59
Subject: My Blue Table Painting Experience with Chaos Dwarves
Mr Blue Table's meltdown appears complete, he's barely coherent and is apparently sleeping in the studio... So if you had bought into the business, you'd have a 'tenant' by now.
His wife has given him 'the big D"... (8.40)
He also appears to now be stuck with several large fantasy armies for sale.
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2015/07/15 22:09:20
Subject: Re:My Blue Table Painting Experience with Chaos Dwarves
Mr Blue Table's meltdown appears complete, he's barely coherent and is apparently sleeping in the studio... So if you had bought into the business, you'd have a 'tenant' by now.
Is it just me or is he considerably more manic than usual?
His wife has given him 'the big D"... (8.40)
Divorce??
2015/07/15 22:10:49
Subject: My Blue Table Painting Experience with Chaos Dwarves
Note that Frontline Gaming (who is doing the repainting) has specifically asked that folks not discuss BTP in the comments of the videos (just FYI if you check it out). Seems like a reasonable request since they're putting in so much work to make this army right!
What I want to know is, what is tenebre doing with the army now that AoS has hit - moving to KoW? That's what I'm doing with my, now abyssal dwarf, army
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2015/07/16 03:48:46
Subject: Re:My Blue Table Painting Experience with Chaos Dwarves
heartserenade wrote: Hopefully he moves to KoW, so he can play with that really nice army. And we need new blood!
Please, I have seen the repaints.
It isn't 'new blood'.
It's 'new blood, Blood, BLOOD!'
The Auld Grump, with a few spatterings of gore.
Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
2015/07/16 13:45:25
Subject: Re:My Blue Table Painting Experience with Chaos Dwarves
This also makes me think of the large number of painted miniatures being sold on eBay with the title 'Pro Painted' when they are barely tabletop standard.
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2015/07/17 18:48:32
Subject: My Blue Table Painting Experience with Chaos Dwarves
After the Chaos Dwarf debacle, it seemed like word got around pretty well in regards to just how slap-dash they could be.
Have they taken any measures to repair the rampant vandalism that they inflicted on their own reputation?
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
2015/07/18 02:11:08
Subject: Re:My Blue Table Painting Experience with Chaos Dwarves
Allow me to enter the dispute.
I decided to send my Assassinorum Force to BTP for assembly and painting. I wanted a 'complete' board game. I payed for it. And I have high expectations.
Shawn was always there to quickly answer my email, give a proposition, listen to any wishes I might have. The pictures of the final product I received as 'quality control' did not look good. They look like they were taken with a very bad cellphone camera. I am hoping everything is fine.
Once my AF comes to me, I will take few photos with my phone and rest my case.
As this thread is about a specific incident (as opposed to a general thread about BTP), and the OP feels that incident has been thoroughly covered by this point, the thread is being locked.
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