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"HEY EVERYONE, AN OLD MAN IS TALKING!"

There was a website a while back that did Retro WD reviews, reviewing the issue of WD that came out 10 years ago. Always fun to look back.

Well this summer I found Noble Knight Games (www.nobleknight.com) who specialize in OOP stuff and have a pretty good inventory of old WDs for like $5 each.

So I'm starting here with WD 93! September 1987!

Note, if you were not born when this issue came out you must note that fact in your reply. It's a rule.

WD 93 is from the time when GW was transitioning from being an importer of stuff like D&D and Battletech to producing their own games. So it has articles for Call of Cthulhu, Middle Earth Role Playing and AD&D. It also has the premier of a new game, something called Warhammer 40,000 AD



The inside cover also has an ad for some new Warhammer fantasy force called the Skaven by some whippersnapper named Goodwin.



We're also introduced to some guy named Copplestone.

Marc Copplestone of course sculpted most of the RT IG and marines and now has his own shop selling near future and historical figures:
http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/

And what may well be the first ever 40k cartoon

(a noble click embiggens the smallest image)

Then some ads for GW models... some things never change

Y'see back in the old days dwarfs used to use wood.

Coming in part 2, that Warhammer 40k games I was mentioning...



Kyoto-san was a humble government worker. Everyday he shuffled
from his house to the embassy, bearing documents to be signed by
great public officials promising big promises between his native land
(so far away) and "the Red Land" (where all government officials learn
their trade). He did not meet the eyes of those that signed or sent him
with orders to get signed. His eyes remained low, bowed, respectful,
and Kyoto-san only ever saw the folded hands, the desks, and the
feet of those men in power above him.

In this way, Kyoto-san lived. - Malfred
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My lord.. Back in the day GEESH!..

A time when real space marines carried conversion beamers.

as for age I got that issue beat by 17 years...
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Hahaha, those warhammer 40,000 soldiers on the cover are hilariously bad. Oh look it's a starship trooper clone. That game will never take off.

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Back in the day, I was playing Car Wars / Ogre / GEV / Diplomacy. Tho I distinctly recall Dark Future.

And Atra, age-wise, I think I may have you beat, but I refuse to guess by how much.

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Laughing my ass off, crying my heart out.

am I that old? !$@%#^ it!!!!
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& we're back!

With what you've been waiting for, the dynamic debut of WARHAMMER 40,000 AD ROGUE TRADER!

Things start off dramatically with a full-page spread of well...



Nothing?

Heckuva nice logo I guess.

And you kids today complain about no content in WD...

Turn the page and you get...

A tiny text box!
Let's see that up close


Ah, now that's some deathless prose... When Peter Jackson makes the Warhammer 40k movie that darn well better be the first lines said.

And without further commentary, the full text and some art from 'What is Warhammer 40,000?'






The picture that inspired an army...

Our first Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau (wonder why he never got a 54mm version)


And in our next exciting installment we'll have some of the miniatures from this excting new game.

Kyoto-san was a humble government worker. Everyday he shuffled
from his house to the embassy, bearing documents to be signed by
great public officials promising big promises between his native land
(so far away) and "the Red Land" (where all government officials learn
their trade). He did not meet the eyes of those that signed or sent him
with orders to get signed. His eyes remained low, bowed, respectful,
and Kyoto-san only ever saw the folded hands, the desks, and the
feet of those men in power above him.

In this way, Kyoto-san lived. - Malfred
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This game takes itself far too seriously, like a pretentious movie.

Hopefully these aliens are fun-loving creatures.

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"It's like, how much more black could this be? and the answer is none. None more black. "

"...he could never understand the sense of a contest in which the two adversaries agreed upon the rules." Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude
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Yeah, I'd say it's pretty grim and bleak. Those eldar seem to live like the Jetsons, though. They should be pretty fun to play.

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I remember my friends not wanting to pick up Rogue Trader because we were all too busy playing Star Fleet Battles and Battletech. I bought the rulebook at about this time anyway.

I'd kill to have a body like yours.....in my trunk.
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& we're back with part III!

We've seen the dark grimness of the 401st century, but what about the minis?

Well 10 UKPs will get you 30 plastic marines or Ork raiders




Or you can go for lead ones, 2.50 for 3 or 4





In these early blood angels you can see early version of the gold officers' armor and death company



And the original land raider


In our last exciting installment we'll see the results of the original Golden Demons...

Kyoto-san was a humble government worker. Everyday he shuffled
from his house to the embassy, bearing documents to be signed by
great public officials promising big promises between his native land
(so far away) and "the Red Land" (where all government officials learn
their trade). He did not meet the eyes of those that signed or sent him
with orders to get signed. His eyes remained low, bowed, respectful,
and Kyoto-san only ever saw the folded hands, the desks, and the
feet of those men in power above him.

In this way, Kyoto-san lived. - Malfred
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I still have my actual first purchased issue of White Dwarf, Issue #90 and it's next 20 issues. It's great looking back at some of the fluff articles and still seeing some of the same stuff. The first appearance of the Ravenwing was great, alongside the bullock jet cycles

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.
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http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Blackmoor_goes_to_the_Las_Vegas_GT_Part_II_(The_GT)

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I started buying WD in 1990 but I've been buying up old issues at conventions, I've got several in the 40's.

Almost 2 years ago I laid them out on the floor and stood on the table to get this pic:


This is great Kyoto.

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Kid_Kyoto wrote:


I love this picture with my peepee. Whenever I peruse my copy of RT, I always gander at this pic and think about what GW missed out on when they removed any individuality from space marines.

I mean look at those two sitting in the bar! "Smash the empire" spray painted across the wall, two marines sitting enjoying a beer in hopes of perhaps busting some heads.

Heady times. GW should look at their roots more often. They might get an idea of how to save their games.
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& we're back with the final installment!


WD 93 is also remarkable for having the results of the first Golden Demon awards!






& finally we have an ad thanking President Reagan (he used to be President in the 80s you hardly ever hear of him these days) for driving down the dollar


Join us next time when we learn the REAL TRUTH about the Ultramarines and their half-eldar librarian.

Kyoto-san was a humble government worker. Everyday he shuffled
from his house to the embassy, bearing documents to be signed by
great public officials promising big promises between his native land
(so far away) and "the Red Land" (where all government officials learn
their trade). He did not meet the eyes of those that signed or sent him
with orders to get signed. His eyes remained low, bowed, respectful,
and Kyoto-san only ever saw the folded hands, the desks, and the
feet of those men in power above him.

In this way, Kyoto-san lived. - Malfred
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Reaganomics!

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.... I'm stunned...

The White Dwarf shaking hands with Reagan is possibly the most iconic image I've ever seen since getting into this hobby...

Iorek on Zombie Dong wrote:I know you'll all keep thinking about it. Admit it. Some of you may even make it your avatar


Yup.
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I have that very issue and that 40K insert first got me interested in the game. Those opening paragraphs were the hook. Who doesn't want to hear the laughter of thirsting gods?

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Yes, but it all went sour over the Arms for Skaven scandal.

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Besides WD could top that. I remember a picture of 'Eavy Metal or an orc standard bearer bearing the icon of Margaret Thatcher as their evil overlord.

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Kid_Kyoto wrote:Note, if you were not born when this issue came out you must note that fact in your reply.

I was three

Kid_Kyoto wrote:finally we have an ad thanking President Reagan (he used to be President in the 80s you hardly ever hear of him these days) for driving down the dollar

Actually I hear a lot about Reagan of late, largely from Mitt invoking him as a shining icon of conservatism. But this picture is superb, and is being sent to many non-gamers as we speak

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Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Ah, now that's some deathless prose... When Peter Jackson makes the Warhammer 40k movie that darn well better be the first lines said.


First off i was two...

That text is pretty badass, much like my toddler self. I would fully endorse that as the voice over for the opening shot of movie as it pans over the aftermath of a fight between some beakies and boyz.

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...and I quote:
"You won't need hundreds of models Warhammer 40,000, just a dozen will do..."

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!



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may be a little OT but MOVIE? is it going to hapen this time or was it a joke?

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FearPeteySodes wrote:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Ah, now that's some deathless prose... When Peter Jackson makes the Warhammer 40k movie that darn well better be the first lines said.


First off i was two...

That text is pretty badass, much like my toddler self. I would fully endorse that as the voice over for the opening shot of movie as it pans over the aftermath of a fight between some beakies and boyz.


Eh, just replace the original star wars scrawling text with this one. A 40k movie would be the same thing anyway.

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I was four when this issue came out, but I was first taken to Little Wars(which still exists, albeit larger and in a different location in the BR) about a year later. Didn't get anything, but I was entranced by the little toy soldiers. About 5-6 years later, I stepped into Galactic Games in NOLA and haven't looked back(much to the chagrin of my parental units).

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So far everyone was born when this issue came out?

Gosh we're a bunch of old foogies here.

Kyoto-san was a humble government worker. Everyday he shuffled
from his house to the embassy, bearing documents to be signed by
great public officials promising big promises between his native land
(so far away) and "the Red Land" (where all government officials learn
their trade). He did not meet the eyes of those that signed or sent him
with orders to get signed. His eyes remained low, bowed, respectful,
and Kyoto-san only ever saw the folded hands, the desks, and the
feet of those men in power above him.

In this way, Kyoto-san lived. - Malfred
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:So far everyone was born when this issue came out?

Gosh we're a bunch of old foogies here.


I was surprised too, unless people are just hiding the truth.

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Well, I was 6 at the time and in a small town in rural Canada where no one had ever heard of GW, but I was still alive at the time.
 
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