FW has released preview pictures of Khorne conversion kits for CSMs and Terminators.

They look pretty good -- although the Berzerkers look ridiculous from the belt down, due to GW's inexplicably ridiculous space marine leg proportions and stances.

RESIN FOR THE RESIN GOD

I like the power armored dudes a lot, quite mean looking. I think the legs don't detract too badly, though the guy on the right has some skinny legs and the classic 'takin' a dump' stance

The termi I don't like, stupid hose-mustachio head and bunny ears attached to armor = dumb.

Another thought, would it have killed them to make a resin chainaxe arm for each dude? Sooooo need me some chainaxes on anything but the ancient zerker plastics.

And just to reinforce, wow they're heads just look mean, little teeth inside the grills and everything

- Salvage

Hm. I give them a resounding 'meh'. I can appreciate that they're more detailed than the current Berzerker plastics, but frankly, I don't see much more value added than what I'd get in the Berzerker box. At least not for the price they're asking.

I like them. I like the CSM belt buckles, and I love the battle damage. And the Terminator head is awesome.

I like these much better than the Nurgle options. That said, I'm much more interested in the Slaaneshi and Tzeentchian options the distant future might hold.

I don't want to jump the gun, mainly because I purchased enough new chaos to do either khorne or nurgle. I think I'll wait and see what this line has in store, but I'm in agreement with DBM to some degree. The nurgle set is far more appealing and interesting.

dienekes96 wrote:That said, I'm much more interested in the Slaaneshi and Tzeentchian options the distant future might hold.

Aye, might be fairly distant at that. Vraks II is apparently "Blood & Guts" flavored, no "Weird Sex" coupling this time around. Very very curious what else is going to hit by summer though, got Games Day preordering to think about ...

- Salvage

They're ok. Not as good as the plague marines. Those look SO much better than the GW metal ones. The teeth in the WE's grill was bad ass tho.

I think part of the "meh" reaction may be because it's soooo much easier to conceptualize the pestilence (and pustular nature) of nurgle. Disease & rotting, they can represent well and lends to some cool modeling opportunities.

Angry is much tougher to do, y'know?

That being said, the hoses going into the Terminator's nostrils is kinda creepin me out. I wonder what kind of combat drugs they're pumping him with (wait a minute... combat drugs are slaanesh's domain), but it certainly is getting the job done. Alternately, maybe he needs oxygen, being the "mr. burns" of the world eaters?

Geddonight wrote:Alternately, maybe he needs oxygen, being the "mr. burns" of the world eaters?

Hilariously, I sent my brother the pics and he had the same reaction to the "old people" hoses in the termi's nose. "They're old and all, but not that old"

- Salvage

Hmmmm... The difference in style and level of detail between the resin and plastic parts is just too jarring for me...

I love the teeth in the grill of the power armour, but I just can't get over that monstrous "Hosetachio"...
I can just see him, striding the battlefield and shouting in a nasal voice: "Hnood bor de Hnood Wod!"

Bye, Modhail

Modhail wrote:I can just see him, striding the battlefield and shouting in a nasal voice: "Hnood bor de Hnood Wod!"

Man, if I was drinking anything while I read that I would have snarfed it right out my nose....

Okay, the respirator teeth are pretty cool, and that bare head is way better than the previous Berzerker vampire head, but the gashed helmet I can do with an exacto knife.

Death By Monkeys wrote:Hm. I give them a resounding 'meh'. I can appreciate that they're more detailed than the current Berzerker plastics, but frankly, I don't see much more value added than what I'd get in the Berzerker box. At least not for the price they're asking.

You just named the difference. If you just want Berserkers the regular plastics will do. If you want to make a World Eaters specific army then these are what you will want, or at least a few to add in. Remember kids that not all Bersekers are World Eaters, but all World Eaters are...well, you know.

::sung to the tune of a favorite Easter Song::

Here comes "Termie Cottontail"
Hopping down the Blood God trail
Hippity Hopping bloodshed's on the way.


Bunny Eared Terminator looks Stew-ped.
Like the Power Armor, though.



Eric

The 'bunny ears' are the symbol of Khorne, the Skull Rune, or at least the part of it that represent the orbits of a skull. All Khorne/Khaine related stuff in the Warhammer IP uses it. The Avatar of Khaine's head and rune, for example. Or Berzerker helmets.

I would rather they model them on the Terminator's helmet though.

I should add I find it rather fitting that the worshippers of Khorne wear 'bunny-ears' as a religious observance. Lately I've been pondering whether my Marines should have Usaginar as their homeworld, but not all of them have the 'bunny-ears' (the rest have MkVI helmets) and Usaginari going into battle topless would just be unseemly.

They look great. Too bad World Eater termies don't exsist anymore......

Sure they do. Just like Night Lords Terminators, Death Guard Terminators, Thousand Suns Terminators, Emperor's Children Terminators, Word Bearer Terminators, Iron Warrior Terminators, and Alpha Legion Terminators exist.

The World Eaters are a piece of the background, not a set of rules. If you need the rules, add an Icon of Khorne.

Nurglitch wrote:Sure they do. Just like Night Lords Terminators, Death Guard Terminators, Thousand Suns Terminators, Emperor's Children Terminators, Word Bearer Terminators, Iron Warrior Terminators, and Alpha Legion Terminators exist.

The World Eaters are a piece of the background, not a set of rules. If you need the rules, add an Icon of Khorne.

That's a load of and boring to boot. Giving a termie the Mark of Khorne doesn't fuly represent the true awesome fury of the World Eaters.

Still at the moment it is the only option if your playing in a tournament setting.

Then cry like a little baby because big daddy GW was a meany and took away your rules.

Cool, but not quite as cool as the Nurgle guys. I can only hope they continue this streak into Tzeentch. ::crosses fingers::

Nurglitch wrote:Then cry like a little baby because big daddy GW was a meany and took away your rules.

Well duh. And I don't have to cry like a baby you jackass. I've been playing since Slaves to Darkness and The Lost and the Damned and have watched them slowly neuter the Chaos fluff and army. That's ok, things change, and I'm not discounting the new codex, but I can also note that it isn't as interesting in fluff or options.

No wonder your panties are in a knot then, if you think the background and rules have been neutered and that they aren't as interesting as the good old days when GW spoon-fed you everything you needed to know about Chaos. I particularly like the new Chaos book; it got me back into Warhammer 40k - I think it's more characterful, flexible, and chaotic than any of the previous books, including Slaves to Darkness and The Lost and the Damned. Better layout too.

What's the difference between these and current stuff? Mine
is an untrained eye when it comes to Chaos.

I'm guessing spikes, cracked armor, and skulls, but that's so obvious that's probably wrong.

In Slaves to Darkness, World Eaters could have chaplains, devastators, even librarians. They were exactly the same as loyalist marines except they had daemons. So the fluff has definitely changed since the old days.

malfred: The mouth-grills, for one. They look like Kharn's from his portrait in the Chaos Marines book. The torso plastron with the rune of Khorne, and the World Eater belt-buckles (as opposed to the Khorne-symbol belt-buckles that the standard plastic Berzerkers have). The detailing on the shoulder pads, I'm guessing (probably World Eater insignia), particularly the chain. And, of course, sharper details from the reason. Probably best for variety to mix in with the stuff from the Berzerker sprues.

Rbb: Damn, I need to get a lick of paint on my Devastators/Havocs and my Librarian/Sorcerer then! I would have a Chaplain, but I need the space for a Captain/Chaos Lord.

Nurglitch wrote:Then cry like a little baby because big daddy GW was a meany and took away your rules.

Jeez dude, who shat in your cornflakes? Does someone need a hug?

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Nurglitch wrote:Then cry like a little baby because big daddy GW was a meany and took away your rules.

Jeez dude, who shat in your cornflakes? Does someone need a hug?

I think your avatar has one ready.

Abadabadoobaddon: Ahtman did when he responded to my point that the World Eaters being a piece of the background rather than a special set of rules by saying: "That's a load of [censored] and boring to boot." He set the tone, I figured I should respond in kind.

Ahtman wrote:

Nurglitch wrote:Sure they do. Just like Night Lords Terminators, Death Guard Terminators, Thousand Suns Terminators, Emperor's Children Terminators, Word Bearer Terminators, Iron Warrior Terminators, and Alpha Legion Terminators exist.

The World Eaters are a piece of the background, not a set of rules. If you need the rules, add an Icon of Khorne.

That's a load of and boring to boot. Giving a termie the Mark of Khorne doesn't fuly represent the true awesome fury of the World Eaters.

Well, ya see Ahtman, the Chaos legions do things differently than the loyalist chapters. As you probably know, among the loyalists entombment in a dreadnought is considered a great honor while on the other hand in the Chaos legions it is a fate worse than death. What you may not have known is that for some legions this dichotomy extends to tactical dreadnought armor as well. For example, among the World Eaters, being forced to don a suit of terminator armor is considered a severe punishment since the bulky armor makes it more difficult to advance after fleeing enemy and makes it practically impossible to do so sweepingly. Thus only less skilled and more cowardly World Eaters are made to wear terminator armor - this is why, unlike their power armored brethren, they only have WS4 and aren't Fearless. I hope this has resolved any issues you may have had with the new Chaos codex. Thanks.

Hrm... thus reinforcing the "hose-stache" really is an oxygen supply for the old world-eating gits. Decreased mobility, decreased combat skill/effectiveness.... yup, they're on O2.

You know, the more i look at it, the more that cracked helmet looks cool--you can actually see the facial features underneath, which can add a bit of fun character/fleshtones to your normally red & brazen colored army... okay, not that much, but it is kinda nifty.