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Cheif Librarian Vaako wrote:Haven't got any bad ones but a good one i did recently. I was going to my FLGS and apon arrival a young boy of ten had bought a battleforce with money from his parents for his birthday but he had his heart set on the sterngaurd so i pick up a box and go to the till when he sees me buy them he looks like he is going to burst into tears but i present him with the sterngaurd and say "happy birthday". I walked out of the shop and he just stood there amazed.

Thats amazing... bravo! I've bought friends stuff for fun (bought one pal 2 wraiths, one a box of dire avengers), but thats cool to do it for a stranger!

Thanks Zid. We soon became friends after that and i helped him with rules and strategies and everything to do with the game.

I just recenlty started playing with the orks I own (I've had lots of time to paint, but never to game since 5th edition and the new codex). I played against this kid and his brother. First guy was pretty cool. We were both learning. Handled the rules quandries well. I realize now that there were some substantial mistakes, but we had fun, and again, learned a lot. I swept his necrons in close combat, he fazed, he was a good sport about it. My first real win actually.

Than I played his brother. Mind you, he wasn't TFG by any stretch. He was a bit surprised at how difficult it was to destroy my battlewagon, I mean, yeah, you have to roll to hit, roll high enough strength against front AV 14, than I got cover saves. I'm sweeping through pretty well, killed Pedro, slaughtered his vanguard, imobalized his LR, and am probably going to finish it off very soon. He has 1 tactical left, which I'm just about to assault. I'm controlling 1 of the 3 objectives, and he's got 1 with that last tactical squad. I've got 2 trukk mobz (one trukk destroyed) and on untouched 20 boy mob, and a maxed stormboy squad, all converging on him and the last objective. He did tell me earlier that he might have to leave before the game was over when his ride showed up. I understand that, fine. So how do we resolve the game? A face off between my warboss and his Named Chaptermaster. I humored him, knowing inside that I would have won. Well guise what, he killed the warboss, no big surprise to me because his HQ was what, twice as many points, and everyone knows that when you spend that much extra on an HQ, they get some sereous bling.
Just kind of irked me. It was one of those, "lets just do this to resolve it" knowing that it would obviously be to his advantage. I'm not sure really how to put it into words I guess. Most ork players feel it sometimes I think. When a marine gets so proud of his ++2 save, reroll to hit, reroll to wound, + a dozen other great fun abilities (I'm not an expert on thier abilities, but you know what I mean). Well thats fine and dandy, but my 80+ attacks is the way I like it. He could have said, 'Man, that was hard too deal with such an agressive army." and shook hands. Instead he had to "I'm going to ignore the whole match and everything left on the table, and let my UBER LEET SPEESE MAHREEN LEEDR DUDDE (who is dead) decide the draw against a single Warboss". Right, fine, you win.

Cheif Librarian Vaako wrote:Haven't got any bad ones but a good one i did recently. I was going to my FLGS and apon arrival a young boy of ten had bought a battleforce with money from his parents for his birthday but he had his heart set on the sterngaurd so i pick up a box and go to the till when he sees me buy them he looks like he is going to burst into tears but i present him with the sterngaurd and say "happy birthday". I walked out of the shop and he just stood there amazed.

Thats actually pretty awsome! Lets just hope he doesnt turn into a greasy cheeto fingered pick up someone elses models without their permisson, model molestor eh?

Cheif Librarian Vaako wrote:Haven't got any bad ones but a good one i did recently. I was going to my FLGS and apon arrival a young boy of ten had bought a battleforce with money from his parents for his birthday but he had his heart set on the sterngaurd so i pick up a box and go to the till when he sees me buy them he looks like he is going to burst into tears but i present him with the sterngaurd and say "happy birthday". I walked out of the shop and he just stood there amazed.

The best sportsmanship:
I started 40k when I was 10 [now 16], I lived in Richmond, Melbourne and would always hang in the store for hours at a time, just loved it there and the people I met were great.

So one day sitting in there reading the books and watching people play, the manager of the store comes and sits down next to me [at this time I had no GW stuff at all] and he asked me, would I like to start collecting, I naturally say yes. So we go through all races and stuff, and I decided on DE, but had no money, the manager then turns and says, "mate, you dont need money to play this game, just friends" and passes me a 40K 3rd edition starter set [this was when it came with DE and SMs], a beginner paint set and sits down with me building and painting the DE and SMs.

The next day, I came back with my DE and SM starter and the manager played a game with me showing me all the rules and making up stories about the game we were playing. He made it so I won. It was the best 2 days of my hobby life.

Man, that guy is nice. I heard of some poor sportsmanship in my area. Some guy was playing with his friends (for two of them it was the first time), and lied something stupid. 'My Orks have a 3+ Cover Save'.

1. They weren't in cover.
2. They were Boyz.

@Squiq_herder: That guy is ALSO very awesome.

@Tim the Biovore: WhatWhatWHAT???

Cheif Librarian Vaako wrote:...but i present him with the sterngaurd and say "happy birthday". I walked out of the shop and he just stood there amazed.

Vaako, you missed my birthday... *sniff *sniff

Aaaawwww...

...shame.

Tooting my own horn:

I got into the habit of allowing rerolls or in game do-overs when playing against people new to 40K. If I rolled a vehicle destroyed result or vaporized an important character I would do out the damage and explain what happened. Then I would go back and say the shot misses and the unit is unharmed.

I later brought his habit into friendly games; if I feel the game has taken a turn against my opponent, if I feel the lost of a unit detracts from the game from a story standpoint, or just to keep the game competitive. In one game I ended up putting something like 10 wounds on a Hive Tyrant and let the player keep him going with only 2 wounds removed. This helps keep an interesting narrative as I largely fall back on this to keep the game interesting both in terms it being challenging and persevering a narrative - I am pretty sure GWS has a similar practice to pretty up their battle reports.

Also in cases in which I find myself repeatedly winning against a particular player I have offered to take a point handicap or allow them to add additional units to their army. Something like I play 1500 and they play 1850. I recommend this practice if you find yourself winning the majority of the time as it makes the game more challenging for you, helps out your opponent, and balances games to a point where they are equally challenging for all parties.

I'm sorry if I offend you by saying this, but wht you're doing doesn't help anyting except your ego. Your opponents don't get better by having you go easy on them. If that were my tyrant, I would have removed it, because if I had not, I would have known-not thought, known-I was cheating by leaving it on the table.

Yeah, I also don't like the idea of my opponent handicapping himself for me. If we're gonna start playing that way I'd rather not play.

Iron_Chaos_Brute wrote:I'm sorry if I offend you by saying this, but wht you're doing doesn't help anyting except your ego. Your opponents don't get better by having you go easy on them. If that were my tyrant, I would have removed it, because if I had not, I would have known-not thought, known-I was cheating by leaving it on the table.

Friendly games - we are not training for the wargaming olympics. Games can become stagnant if a critical unit is destroyed or disabled, as for the other player, they either see their error or was just had the dice turn against them. I (and I imagine most of the people I play with) game because it is entertaining, not so we can become the best miniature tacticians we can be. If they have a new unit they are dying to field and I destroy them before they can blink I don;t see the harm in giving them a chance to use the unit within the game. They realize that the unit die and it is a mistake they can learn from even while they continue to use it.

In a game of chance were it is odds alone that determines whether or not my single dark lance takes out a land raider I see no problem with cutting my opponent a break to keep a friendly game competitive. We play because we enjoy the game not to get a win, our goal in gaming is to socialize and enjoy ourselves. I want a challenging and eventful game more than I want a win as do most of my opponents. If you are offended by the practice of handicapping then you can always reject it. But, I found the practice to benefit both parties, instead of beating a player 90% of the time I win about half my games, if it drops much farther then that we rethink the price difference.

I never had a player become offended or upset by my offering them a handicap nor have I had someone turn my offer down. After the game when I pack up and leave my concern lies in the direction of, did I have a good game, not whether I won or lost. I imagine my opponent is also more concerned with playing a competitive and entertaining game rather then getting raked over the coals. You can make the argument that I am somehow injuring my opponent, but I disagree. if anything they learn more as they continue to field the unit. I don't have my personal worth determined by whether or not my painted toys beat up your painted toys and neither do most of the people I play against. We are not trying to have anything but fun when we game.

In a game of chance were it is odds alone that determines whether or not my single dark lance takes out a land raider I see no problem with cutting my opponent a break to keep a friendly game competitive.

It isn't "odds alone", the guy could have kept his land raider out of LOS of the dark lance for instance.

Winning at 40k doesn't make you a brilliant tactician or anything, but there are some tactics involved. I don't know of anyone who just marches all their gak straight up an empty table and lets the dice take care of everything. Yeah, bad rolling can bring you down, but oh well, better luck next game right?

We play because we enjoy the game not to get a win

You can play the game to win and have fun.

I imagine my opponent is also more concerned with playing a competitive and entertaining game rather then getting raked over the coals.

And you know, this is exactly why I like conceding games when the outcome is obvious. If the game stops being fun and it turns into more of a curb stomp than anything, just call the game and start a new one. Maybe that unit you're dying to field won't get killed first turn this time and it'll play out a lot better.

Hell, if you're all about the storytelling experience then why not keep going anyway? Marines fight to the last! Maybe it doesn't quite have that triumphant Hollywood ending but it's still epic.

I don't have my personal worth determined by whether or not my painted toys beat up your painted toys

Neither do I...

We are not trying to have anything but fun when we game.

Same here, but the way you play isn't very fun for me. I prefer winning games on my own merit, not because you kept giving me breaks and handicaps.

Personally I don't really care much about the storytelling aspect, 40k isn't an RPG to me. If that's what I was after I'd play D&D. When I play 40k I want to roll dice and kill gak, and I hate being made out to look like the bad guy because I don't offer my brother the chance to put his defiler back on the table when I luck out and pop it with a railgun first turn...I'm not doing anything wrong. :\

^^
Sid has it.

@ Sidstyler
Well to each their own. We enjoy playing our way you can play towards your preference.

In my tyrant example the tyranid player had two tyrants one heavily augmented and winged and one fairly neglected walker. He broke his army into two units the wing one had winged warriors and gargoyles the walking one had the rest of the army a whole bunch of gaunts, stealers, and a carnifex.

He attempted to circle my deployment zone with his fast guys, which was a mistake considering I was playing a raider heavy dark eldar force. I sent a decoy force away from my main army and he took the bait and advanced after them with his winged guys, which took them a good distance away from actual game. The rest of my army advanced to the bulk of his force and opened up with every gun at the Tyrant and killed it twice over.

This was the second turn and the tyrant already had two wounds. I discounted my shooting at the tyrant to continue the game. I explained to my opponent that with his tyrant gone 80% of his army was now outside synapse control. My tactic would be to stall the wing guys with my decoys and would have my main force circle around his army putting dark lance shots into the carnifex while drivebying his stealers and the unbroken gaunts with my raider crew – I would also chase the fleeing gaunts off the table with my raiders while enjoying the relative security of fast moving skimmers. He could see that his chances of succeeding in the game had bottomed out.

Instead of playing a game that was now decidedly in my favor I offered to have the tyrant stay in. So instead of the game I descried we played one where my archon fought the hive tyrant in hand to hand with a massive amount of combat and raiders getting over run and blasted out of the sky. We both had fun and finished the game, I don’t remember who ended up winning just that it was a glorious slaughter.

My way was for more enjoyable for the two parties involve. You stated that you favor conceding a game something that might not be okay with all opponents– my way is a less consequential method of maintaining a friendly game. Instead of going through the bother of picking up all your models, rolling up missions and all the other hassles involving in ending a game and starting another, why not just tweak the one your playing to preserve competency? At the end of the day why do you even care how we game? This way is fun for us, you can play however you want, and on the off said chance that you find yourself gaming me and I blow out the wheels of an important vehicle and offer to reduce the effect to stun so your HQ is not stranded you can politely decline.

Grunt13, I think that's a perfectly fine way to play - you just want to see cool stuff go down, whoever comes out on top is secondary. Doesn't work for everyone though. The people I normally play with, in the situation you describe the DE player would take apart the tyranids and feel damn good about it! Then we'd have a little back-and-forth about where the tyranid player went wrong, and he wouldn't make the same mistake again. We play the game as a match against each other - obviously luck plays a big part, but the winner does get bragging rights and we play each game down to the wire.

Different strokes for different folks, I don't think there's a 'right' and 'wrong' way. But I would not take a points handicap on a game. All the variables that cause your opponent's poor perfomance (generalship, army list, terrain set-up, knowledge of the rules) are within his power to change, except for the dice rolls, which should even out in the long run. If you allow him to play at a handicap, he will never learn how to beat you on equal terms. Even if I lost to a friend 20 times running, I would keep trying new tactics/forces until I could beat him on equal terms.

My last game wasn't the best sportsmanship. I'm in my third or fourth month of the hobby, with 1 win and 20 losses. So in the last game, I played against DE for the first time, and I was excited to try a new foe. First turn I do something really stupid and risky- ram the Raider on the objective I needed with my Wave Serpent. So the rolls are horrible- It goes far enough for an S10 hit, Vehicle Wrecks itself, and Crew Stunned the Raider (rolled a one, but +1 for open topped). Then half the Avengers inside die with the wrecked transport (I thought that only happened on a Vehicle Exploded!) It's at that point that I roll the wraithbone to see the future- I'm screwed. It goes downhill from there. I lose the rest of the Avengers to a Talos, fail to stop the Jetbike rush at my Guardians (who were standing in front of the Rangers with the objective) lose my Wraithlord to Dark Lances, my Warp Spiders almost take out the squad holding his objective till the Talos chases them off and kills them, and it's a curbstomp. After every failure I slump back and moan, hitting the wall pretty hard. I offer to concede and start up a new match, but this guy tells me to ride it out, three times. I go along with it, but I'm really screwed. Another hope spot- My war walker's not stunned this turn, and if I fire a plasma missile at those last two warriors I can clear him off the objective and at least tie. Zogging BS3 makes me miss both shots. The Archon, a hero character (that Disembowler guy) and their Incubi hit my Rangers despite my throwing the Farseer and her Warlocks at them (desperately). I whined quite alot about it and finally concede at the bottom of turn 5, almost tabled.

My friend's worse though. Every time I do my post-loss research I find out he cheated. I'll walk into a shop like, "You guys know how to beat my friend's Death Guard Terminators with Lightning Claws and Iron Halos and a Chaplain?" And they start laughing because everything except the chaplain is illegal for Death Guard. Before that I'd sicced my whole army on his Mephiston and he forgot you can't take Feel No Pain from armor piercing attacks. So he eats 50+ shots and rapes my whole force alone. Before that he declared that since my Farseer had used her powers on the Terminator squad behind another terminator squad, the rest of the Warlocks couldn't shoot at the same squad because "the guys in front are wearing armor as thick as a tank" never mind that 2+ saves don't make you a vehicle, and that units in the way give you a cover save, not block LOS. Before that he thought you could assault again on a consolidate move, so he kills half my force in one Assault phase (with Mephy again.) And when I called him out, codex/rulebook in hand he told me "you don't play BA, stick to your eldar."

Masaki-kun wrote:"You guys know how to beat my friend's Death Guard Terminators with Lightning Claws and Iron Halos and a Chaplain?" And they start laughing because everything except the chaplain is illegal for Death Guard.

If it's Death Guard of C:CSM, everything but LCs are illegal.

Chaplains for CSM:

Worst happened earlier. I was playing against a chaos marine guyin a 1500pt game-he was new to chaos, so I thought "What the hey-should be fun, and as a chaos player myself I might be able to give him some help". However, I decided to use my Howling Griffons, and my newly converted plastic Epistolary Librarian, so it doesn't just turn into Thousand sons ap 3 slaughterhouse.

From the moment the game started I knew it would end badly-the exact nature, of it though I couldn't have forseen. He had the most annoying voice, and constantly bragged about how his Lord with a demon weapon, Sorceror with bolt of change and 10 heavily upgraded Terminator champions (Yes, I laughed too-and died a little inside) would totally annihlate my little 'girly' marines. However, his attempt to telerport his Terminators containing the sorceror right next to my one remaining scout I had on the objective failed, with them all being destroyed. He looked pissed off, but I didn't honestly think he was going to kick off. So, I charged my Libby into his lord-fair enough, you probably think. Wait for it (I know this is long winded, but I just want to be as clear on the events as possible-I don't quite believe it myself yet). In the assault phase, I strike first (Under the effect of the Quickening Power) and wound the lord. Then, passing my force weapon check, killed it in one before it struck back.

For a moment, the guy just sat there, mouth open. I asked if he wanted to redo the combat, and this time I wouldn't use the quickening (it did seem a kind of cheep move in my eyes.) Then, with a wail that would have put a banshee to shame, he grabbed his clippers from the table and came at me. I think he was going for my throat, but I moved quickley-it just caught my face, and drew a bit of blood. While I was dazed, he picked up my libby, clipped off his force weapon blade-and ate it. Yes, that's right, he actually ATE my force weapon. He then proceeded to clip more bits off, before smashing him into the ground and grinding it into the ground, before jumping back and asking "How's Booky Dweebish (His name for my Librarian) gonna kill my marines NOW?", and started laughing.

The store had just completely stopped now-all eyes on me. I bent down and picked up the battererd remains of my Librarian. Yes, a tear or two were shed-But I had put at least 15 man hours into PLANNING this guy out, he was to be my masterpiece. I then looked up at my opponent. He had stopped laughing by now.

I don't know exactly what happened next, but people standing nearby said to me after that they could see the Mark of Khorne light up in my eyes, and that I have never moved so fast. In the end, I think it was Paul-Resident Blackshirt and a credit to managers everywhere.-who stopped me from going after that guy and killing him. Afterwords, after closing and well into Pauls own time,he sat with me and helped me to rebuild my Librarian-although I asked to keep his backpack slightly broken as a reminder. I then walked out of the store with 2 nice free boxes of the new Stormvermin-so today wasn't a total loss .

I just got back from the docters a while ago-he said the bleeding should stop soon, but I may have a scar there for the rest of my days. I know some people will say I overeacted, and I apologise-but that Librarian was important to me (and I wonder why I have no Girlfreind ). I know that some people will also complain that I've wrote too much-again I apologise, but as I said earlier, I'm still not sure I belive this myself yet.

Take care

LLF

@Sinister brain: Oh my...Was the Chimera okay ?

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:Worst happened earlier. I was playing against a chaos marine guyin a 1500pt game-he was new to chaos, so I thought "What the hey-should be fun, and as a chaos player myself I might be able to give him some help". However, I decided to use my Howling Griffons, and my newly converted plastic Epistolary Librarian, so it doesn't just turn into Thousand sons ap 3 slaughterhouse.

From the moment the game started I knew it would end badly-the exact nature, of it though I couldn't have forseen. He had the most annoying voice, and constantly bragged about how his Lord with a demon weapon, Sorceror with bolt of change and 10 heavily upgraded Terminator champions (Yes, I laughed too-and died a little inside) would totally annihlate my little 'girly' marines. However, his attempt to telerport his Terminators containing the sorceror right next to my one remaining scout I had on the objective failed, with them all being destroyed. He looked pissed off, but I didn't honestly think he was going to kick off. So, I charged my Libby into his lord-fair enough, you probably think. Wait for it (I know this is long winded, but I just want to be as clear on the events as possible-I don't quite believe it myself yet). In the assault phase, I strike first (Under the effect of the Quickening Power) and wound the lord. Then, passing my force weapon check, killed it in one before it struck back.

For a moment, the guy just sat there, mouth open. I asked if he wanted to redo the combat, and this time I wouldn't use the quickening (it did seem a kind of cheep move in my eyes.) Then, with a wail that would have put a banshee to shame, he grabbed his clippers from the table and came at me. I think he was going for my throat, but I moved quickley-it just caught my face, and drew a bit of blood. While I was dazed, he picked up my libby, clipped off his force weapon blade-and ate it. Yes, that's right, he actually ATE my force weapon. He then proceeded to clip more bits off, before smashing him into the ground and grinding it into the ground, before jumping back and asking "How's Booky Dweebish (His name for my Librarian) gonna kill my marines NOW?", and started laughing.

The store had just completely stopped now-all eyes on me. I bent down and picked up the battererd remains of my Librarian. Yes, a tear or two were shed-But I had put at least 15 man hours into PLANNING this guy out, he was to be my masterpiece. I then looked up at my opponent. He had stopped laughing by now.

I don't know exactly what happened next, but people standing nearby said to me after that they could see the Mark of Khorne light up in my eyes, and that I have never moved so fast. In the end, I think it was Paul-Resident Blackshirt and a credit to managers everywhere.-who stopped me from going after that guy and killing him. Afterwords, after closing and well into Pauls own time,he sat with me and helped me to rebuild my Librarian-although I asked to keep his backpack slightly broken as a reminder. I then walked out of the store with 2 nice free boxes of the new Stormvermin-so today wasn't a total loss .

I just got back from the docters a while ago-he said the bleeding should stop soon, but I may have a scar there for the rest of my days. I know some people will say I overeacted, and I apologise-but that Librarian was important to me (and I wonder why I have no Girlfreind ). I know that some people will also complain that I've wrote too much-again I apologise, but as I said earlier, I'm still not sure I belive this myself yet.

Take care

LLF

@Sinister brain: Oh my...Was the Chimera okay ?

/thread

Wow, actually drawing blood on one's opponent... WTF?

Didn't half hurt.

Gornall wrote:

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:Worst happened earlier. I was playing against a chaos marine guyin a 1500pt game-he was new to chaos, so I thought "What the hey-should be fun, and as a chaos player myself I might be able to give him some help". However, I decided to use my Howling Griffons, and my newly converted plastic Epistolary Librarian, so it doesn't just turn into Thousand sons ap 3 slaughterhouse.

From the moment the game started I knew it would end badly-the exact nature, of it though I couldn't have forseen. He had the most annoying voice, and constantly bragged about how his Lord with a demon weapon, Sorceror with bolt of change and 10 heavily upgraded Terminator champions (Yes, I laughed too-and died a little inside) would totally annihlate my little 'girly' marines. However, his attempt to telerport his Terminators containing the sorceror right next to my one remaining scout I had on the objective failed, with them all being destroyed. He looked pissed off, but I didn't honestly think he was going to kick off. So, I charged my Libby into his lord-fair enough, you probably think. Wait for it (I know this is long winded, but I just want to be as clear on the events as possible-I don't quite believe it myself yet). In the assault phase, I strike first (Under the effect of the Quickening Power) and wound the lord. Then, passing my force weapon check, killed it in one before it struck back.

For a moment, the guy just sat there, mouth open. I asked if he wanted to redo the combat, and this time I wouldn't use the quickening (it did seem a kind of cheep move in my eyes.) Then, with a wail that would have put a banshee to shame, he grabbed his clippers from the table and came at me. I think he was going for my throat, but I moved quickley-it just caught my face, and drew a bit of blood. While I was dazed, he picked up my libby, clipped off his force weapon blade-and ate it. Yes, that's right, he actually ATE my force weapon. He then proceeded to clip more bits off, before smashing him into the ground and grinding it into the ground, before jumping back and asking "How's Booky Dweebish (His name for my Librarian) gonna kill my marines NOW?", and started laughing.

The store had just completely stopped now-all eyes on me. I bent down and picked up the battererd remains of my Librarian. Yes, a tear or two were shed-But I had put at least 15 man hours into PLANNING this guy out, he was to be my masterpiece. I then looked up at my opponent. He had stopped laughing by now.

I don't know exactly what happened next, but people standing nearby said to me after that they could see the Mark of Khorne light up in my eyes, and that I have never moved so fast. In the end, I think it was Paul-Resident Blackshirt and a credit to managers everywhere.-who stopped me from going after that guy and killing him. Afterwords, after closing and well into Pauls own time,he sat with me and helped me to rebuild my Librarian-although I asked to keep his backpack slightly broken as a reminder. I then walked out of the store with 2 nice free boxes of the new Stormvermin-so today wasn't a total loss .

I just got back from the docters a while ago-he said the bleeding should stop soon, but I may have a scar there for the rest of my days. I know some people will say I overeacted, and I apologise-but that Librarian was important to me (and I wonder why I have no Girlfreind ). I know that some people will also complain that I've wrote too much-again I apologise, but as I said earlier, I'm still not sure I belive this myself yet.

Take care

LLF

@Sinister brain: Oh my...Was the Chimera okay ?

/thread

I think we need a jaw-drop Orkmoticon....physically assaulting one's opponent is just so far over the line that I can't even begin to....I hope that this individual was arrested or at least permabanned!
Gornall has the right idea.

twistinthunder wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:I've only just remembered this event although it happened last year:

I was playing an Apoc game at GW Brighton to celebrate the new IG releases, and the basis of the game was to kill as many regular IG as possible, and every guardsman you killed you got 1p off your Games Day Ticket. Anyway, I'm playing the game and I decide to indirectly fire my Basilisks over about 30" of terrain and hit this guy's Stormsword. He has a massive fit saying he should have a cover save from a Valkyrie about 18" in front of the Stormsword, claiming that the Basilisks are firing directly and would get a save from the Valk. I argue that by firing indirectly, the shots are coming from above and wouldnt hit the Valk. Eventually, this 60 year-old guy has a fit and throws a tantrum and throws his dice all across the table, shouting at the top of his voice to get attention. I still destroyed the Stormsword and the Valk using Infernus anyway.
If he was any other guy I would have given him the benefit of the doubt, but this guy had grown so arrogant because he had saves about 50p off his ticket.

dude thats my local store!

if you go there regularly do you rememberwhen apoc was released? that massive game was the best!

I didnt know Brighton had a GW when Apoc was released. I was still going to GW Crawley. There is an Apoc game this Friday though. You coming?


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Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:Worst happened earlier. I was playing against a chaos marine guyin a 1500pt game-he was new to chaos, so I thought "What the hey-should be fun, and as a chaos player myself I might be able to give him some help". However, I decided to use my Howling Griffons, and my newly converted plastic Epistolary Librarian, so it doesn't just turn into Thousand sons ap 3 slaughterhouse.

From the moment the game started I knew it would end badly-the exact nature, of it though I couldn't have forseen. He had the most annoying voice, and constantly bragged about how his Lord with a demon weapon, Sorceror with bolt of change and 10 heavily upgraded Terminator champions (Yes, I laughed too-and died a little inside) would totally annihlate my little 'girly' marines. However, his attempt to telerport his Terminators containing the sorceror right next to my one remaining scout I had on the objective failed, with them all being destroyed. He looked pissed off, but I didn't honestly think he was going to kick off. So, I charged my Libby into his lord-fair enough, you probably think. Wait for it (I know this is long winded, but I just want to be as clear on the events as possible-I don't quite believe it myself yet). In the assault phase, I strike first (Under the effect of the Quickening Power) and wound the lord. Then, passing my force weapon check, killed it in one before it struck back.

For a moment, the guy just sat there, mouth open. I asked if he wanted to redo the combat, and this time I wouldn't use the quickening (it did seem a kind of cheep move in my eyes.) Then, with a wail that would have put a banshee to shame, he grabbed his clippers from the table and came at me. I think he was going for my throat, but I moved quickley-it just caught my face, and drew a bit of blood. While I was dazed, he picked up my libby, clipped off his force weapon blade-and ate it. Yes, that's right, he actually ATE my force weapon. He then proceeded to clip more bits off, before smashing him into the ground and grinding it into the ground, before jumping back and asking "How's Booky Dweebish (His name for my Librarian) gonna kill my marines NOW?", and started laughing.

The store had just completely stopped now-all eyes on me. I bent down and picked up the battererd remains of my Librarian. Yes, a tear or two were shed-But I had put at least 15 man hours into PLANNING this guy out, he was to be my masterpiece. I then looked up at my opponent. He had stopped laughing by now.

I don't know exactly what happened next, but people standing nearby said to me after that they could see the Mark of Khorne light up in my eyes, and that I have never moved so fast. In the end, I think it was Paul-Resident Blackshirt and a credit to managers everywhere.-who stopped me from going after that guy and killing him. Afterwords, after closing and well into Pauls own time,he sat with me and helped me to rebuild my Librarian-although I asked to keep his backpack slightly broken as a reminder. I then walked out of the store with 2 nice free boxes of the new Stormvermin-so today wasn't a total loss .

I just got back from the docters a while ago-he said the bleeding should stop soon, but I may have a scar there for the rest of my days. I know some people will say I overeacted, and I apologise-but that Librarian was important to me (and I wonder why I have no Girlfreind ). I know that some people will also complain that I've wrote too much-again I apologise, but as I said earlier, I'm still not sure I belive this myself yet.

Take care

LLF

@Sinister brain: Oh my...Was the Chimera okay ?

Well the metal in the force weapon would probably mess up his system a bit, not to mention being very painful.

Well as I am still a rookie I don't have any tales of good sportmanship...

However I unfortunately have some cases of Bad Sportsmanship.

The first is I guess one of those guys. It always happens in our games. Either he conveniently forgets 5th edition rules (wtf...) or he takes advantage of my lack of knowledge on them. Whatever...but the worst was where he misheard me and claimed I was in my shooting phase, having done no movement. Me eing a mech/slogger that was pretty absurd even for a newb. But as he'd more or less tricked me into doing a night fighting test (I thought that I was doing it for movement) he claimed I couldn't go back and my movement phase was over. What army did he play? You guessed it, Tau.

The other is the biggest douchefaggotry at the store. Theres that kid who has one of every army more or less or is planning a new army or whatever. We agree to a 1000pt three way with another guy and when i lose my termies I suddenly think...something ain't right here. He has 2 tac squads, assault termies, SM captain on bike with full bike squad, dreadnought and scouts.....I ask my friend to tally up his army and hes about 400 over.

My friend being a bad sportsman himself (read: donkey-cave) keeps mocking the kid. The teary eyed kid smacks his dread and one tac squad over ("FINE THEYRE DEAD, ARE YOU HAPPY?") and looks into space shaking andalmost being consumed by rage when I proffer the suggestion he might be using an outdated codex in a friendly manner. When my friend helps me out in the kids assault phase by manouevering models correctly, the kids screams "DONT TOUCH MY MODELS" and slams his fist onto my friends hand. My friend gets a nasty bruise but the kid pretty much destroyed his bike that my friend had perhaps nudged.

Not wanting more conflict I say: Look, I'm packing up, whatever you whiny brat.

Few weeks later I found out how the dumb gak had so many armies. He'd been stealing from the store. The fething idiot had been broadcasting his desire for an anvil of doom all day. Later that day the manager checks when the AoD should be and sees its missing. Police are called. Search his bag and find it. fething dill weed. Lifebanned from all local stores.

(Also I don't know how this was double posted but whenever I go to edit that post it edits this one. Can anyone else even see the double post or is it some forum glitch?)

Valkyrie wrote:

I didnt know Brighton had a GW when Apoc was released. I was still going to GW Crawley. There is an Apoc game this Friday though. You coming?

didn't know there was one, besides those things get ridiculously hectic and theres always some kids that start moaning because the side that started first is still in the movement phase and it's still the first turn so i tend to avoid those.

twistinthunder wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:

I didnt know Brighton had a GW when Apoc was released. I was still going to GW Crawley. There is an Apoc game this Friday though. You coming?

didn't know there was one, besides those things get ridiculously hectic and theres always some kids that start moaning because the side that started first is still in the movement phase and it's still the first turn so i tend to avoid those.

Yeah it does get pretty hectic with all the little kids. I'm still going to go: Infernus hasn't destroyed anything in a while so if you go I'll see you there (look for the Titan)

@Little lord Fauntleroy

I am not entirely sure about this, but I think that you had a brief moment where legally justified homicide was on the table. I hope the kid got banned from the store, or the authorities were contacted, or something of consequence.



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Nercomanda was my gateway into gaming, I started in elementary school. One of my friends convinced me to pick up a gang and he pressed me heavily towards ratskins, I haven’t even looked at the rulebooks yet. So I bought the gang box and played out a game at his house in which he slaughtered me. I slept over at his house and we painted my gang. The next day we go to our FLGS and I get placed in a running for a pick up game. My opponent is that unaware of the ratskins and does a quick review in the outlanders book. He and my friend start chuckling over how my army was armed with muskets and crossbows while they had lasguns and heavy bolters.

The storeowner took me aside and gave me Brakar, a ratskin special character, who actually possessed a heavy studder. He glued the model for me and gave me the lowdown on his abilities. All he asked in return is that I don’t paint the model for a while, as it was a promotional piece that wasn’t released yet. Well for his kindness he received a loyal customer for many years.