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I voted no strong opinion, but honestly I strongly like both francises. They are very different (or at least were before the recent, unfortunate movie reboot) but there's a place in my heart for both.
melkorthetonedeaf wrote: Star Trek gives me hope for the future, while Star Wars makes me want to watch cowboy movies and read the Epic of Gilgamesh.
You win the thread.
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Its got to be Trek for me, although Ilove Star Wars. I keep returning to Star Trek, and that doesnt happen as much with Star Wars. Both are ace, Trek for the win for me!
Hrm, it's hard to say really. They both have epic parts (Empire, most of RotJ, Wrath of Khan most of TNG and DS9) and abysmal failures (SW Prequel trilogy, most of TOS, VOY and ENT).
Were this before 1999, taking each franchise as a whole, I'd say Star Wars. After that? Star Trek.
Personally though, I'd go with Babylon 5 over either
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights! The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts.
Vaktathi wrote: Hrm, it's hard to say really. They both have epic parts (Empire, most of RotJ, Wrath of Khan most of TNG and DS9) and abysmal failures (SW Prequel trilogy, most of TOS, VOY and ENT).
Were this before 1999, taking each franchise as a whole, I'd say Star Wars. After that? Star Trek.
Personally though, I'd go with Babylon 5 over either
I said the same thing, but about Battlestar Galactica
I went to Hershey Park in central PA this year, and I have to say I was more than a little disappointed. I fully expected the entire theme park to be make entirely of chocolate, but no. Here in America, we have "building codes," and some other nonsense about chocolate melting if don't store it someplace kept below room temperature.
Vaktathi wrote: Hrm, it's hard to say really. They both have epic parts (Empire, most of RotJ, Wrath of Khan most of TNG and DS9) and abysmal failures (SW Prequel trilogy, most of TOS, VOY and ENT).
Were this before 1999, taking each franchise as a whole, I'd say Star Wars. After that? Star Trek.
Personally though, I'd go with Babylon 5 over either
I said the same thing, but about Battlestar Galactica
I was a huge fan of BSG...until they pooched the ending (at least, IMO). Then re-watching it, it's very clear exactly when the 2007 writers strike happens and you can see them doing things for shock value, writing themselves into corners, etc and everything gets weird...-er
The first half of the series I'd grant you
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights! The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts.
Star Wars for me, without question...
i love the reissued original trilogy with all the extra CG bits, except for Han stepping on Jaba's tail, that was just silly...
i really love the look of the prequel trilogy...
we got so see so much cool stuff, like new planets and old ships...
i'm a CG nut, so i am really happy with the look of all six movies...
i do like the new Star Trek movies much more than any of the older stuff, but again, that is down to how far CG has come along...
i'm all about the visuals...
can't wait to see The Force Awakens!!!
cheers
jah
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Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
Vaktathi wrote: Hrm, it's hard to say really. They both have epic parts (Empire, most of RotJ, Wrath of Khan most of TNG and DS9) and abysmal failures (SW Prequel trilogy, most of TOS, VOY and ENT).
Were this before 1999, taking each franchise as a whole, I'd say Star Wars. After that? Star Trek.
Personally though, I'd go with Babylon 5 over either
I said the same thing, but about Battlestar Galactica
I was a huge fan of BSG...until they pooched the ending (at least, IMO). Then re-watching it, it's very clear exactly when the 2007 writers strike happens and you can see them doing things for shock value, writing themselves into corners, etc and everything gets weird...-er
The first half of the series I'd grant you
Would you humor me and fill me in on this writers strike (and what season it correlates to)? I think i was in the 5th grade in 2007
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I went to Hershey Park in central PA this year, and I have to say I was more than a little disappointed. I fully expected the entire theme park to be make entirely of chocolate, but no. Here in America, we have "building codes," and some other nonsense about chocolate melting if don't store it someplace kept below room temperature.
Vaktathi wrote: Hrm, it's hard to say really. They both have epic parts (Empire, most of RotJ, Wrath of Khan most of TNG and DS9) and abysmal failures (SW Prequel trilogy, most of TOS, VOY and ENT).
Were this before 1999, taking each franchise as a whole, I'd say Star Wars. After that? Star Trek.
Personally though, I'd go with Babylon 5 over either
I said the same thing, but about Battlestar Galactica
I was a huge fan of BSG...until they pooched the ending (at least, IMO). Then re-watching it, it's very clear exactly when the 2007 writers strike happens and you can see them doing things for shock value, writing themselves into corners, etc and everything gets weird...-er
The first half of the series I'd grant you
Would you humor me and fill me in on this writers strike (and what season it correlates to)? I think i was in the 5th grade in 2007
So, in 2007 there was a writers strike that affected huge numbers of TV shows of all kinds. IIRC this occurred during seasons 3 & 4, mostly impacting the weird turns season 4 takes.
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights! The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts.
Vaktathi wrote: Hrm, it's hard to say really. They both have epic parts (Empire, most of RotJ, Wrath of Khan most of TNG and DS9) and abysmal failures (SW Prequel trilogy, most of TOS, VOY and ENT).
Were this before 1999, taking each franchise as a whole, I'd say Star Wars. After that? Star Trek.
Personally though, I'd go with Babylon 5 over either
I said the same thing, but about Battlestar Galactica
I was a huge fan of BSG...until they pooched the ending (at least, IMO). Then re-watching it, it's very clear exactly when the 2007 writers strike happens and you can see them doing things for shock value, writing themselves into corners, etc and everything gets weird...-er
The first half of the series I'd grant you
Would you humor me and fill me in on this writers strike (and what season it correlates to)? I think i was in the 5th grade in 2007
So, in 2007 there was a writers strike that affected huge numbers of TV shows of all kinds. IIRC this occurred during seasons 3 & 4, mostly impacting the weird turns season 4 takes.
I guess that explains a lot. I had no idea, but i guess I was more concerned with Dragon Ball Z than BSG in the 5th grade
I went to Hershey Park in central PA this year, and I have to say I was more than a little disappointed. I fully expected the entire theme park to be make entirely of chocolate, but no. Here in America, we have "building codes," and some other nonsense about chocolate melting if don't store it someplace kept below room temperature.
It has to be Star Wars for me, as nothing beats the TIE Fighters (Canon and Non-Canon e.g. TIE Defender & TIE Interceptor) and the story. Star Trek had some decent episodes/movies, but it is all about the ship designs than the stories themselves.
I have to say, I like both pretty well. Star Wars focuses more on characters and philosophy and the struggle between good and evil, whereas Star Trek seems to focus more on science and exploration. I don't think I could rate one above the other, really.
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mdauben wrote: I voted no strong opinion, but honestly I strongly like both francises. They are very different (or at least were before the recent, unfortunate movie reboot) but there's a place in my heart for both.
melkorthetonedeaf wrote: Star Trek gives me hope for the future, while Star Wars makes me want to watch cowboy movies and read the Epic of Gilgamesh.
When you can produce anything from anything for the cost of nothing...why would you be opposed to this?
If we fail to anticipate the unforeseen or expect the unexpected in a universe of infinite possibilities, we may find ourselves at the mercy of anyone or anything that cannot be programmed, categorized or easily referenced.
- Fox Mulder
When you can produce anything from anything for the cost of nothing...why would you be opposed to this?
If you pay attention, the Federation is actually quite oppressive. All the spaceships are state owned, there are no private (human) merchants plying the stars or private shuttles with people exploring the galaxy alone. There are only colonists put on remote worlds by the federation who die in interesting ways to further the plot because they are unarmed scientists.
In the past, there was so much 'Trek and so little 'Wars that it was a quality v quantity thing. It was easy to point to awful 'Trek in recent memory and decent 'Wars.
I suspect that'll be changing with the advent of Star Wars: Episode YA, the Hunger Wars. I think if the Prequels/Clone Wars with its trade federations and diplomatic negotiations was StarWars' TNG period, we are now firmly in the Voyager period of bland strong female leads who 'can do no wrong' .
Star Wars is more visually appealing, but anyone wanting deeper and more meaningful content will vote for Star Trek. Or as the scifi hipster in me would say, Star Wars is too mainstream.
Well, since the original Battlestar Galactica wasn't an option...
Star Trek is more engaging in every possible way. Deeper actual science fiction, wider breadth of storytelling, and most importantly two points: being the most powerful being in the universe isn't caused by an STD, and nobody ever open-mouth kissed their sister on the Enterprise.
When you can produce anything from anything for the cost of nothing...why would you be opposed to this?
If you pay attention, the Federation is actually quite oppressive. All the spaceships are state owned, there are no private (human) merchants plying the stars or private shuttles with people exploring the galaxy alone. There are only colonists put on remote worlds by the federation who die in interesting ways to further the plot because they are unarmed scientists.
There were more than a few human traders/merchants, and far more non-human ones. You had, just in the original series, Cyrano Jones and Harcourt Vincent Mudd. And to be fair, the whole Socialism thing didn't get popped in until TNG. People still got paid in TOS, and through quite a bit of TNG. I think it was Berman who shoveled in the Socialist Utopia angle.
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I have a feeling that the star wars and Warhammer fandoms have a bit more of an overlap, both very action oriented. I love both, but Star Trek (particularly Next Gen and DS9) is just leagues ahead for me.
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